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parrotibaba:
na now I know say u start to watch match from 2010 ...were we unlucky when we lost 2-0 at OT against Coventry city in '08? or losing 3-0 against AC milan in '07 or losing at Fulham 3-0 in '09 n 2010? did we dominate Middlesbrough when we drew 2-2 with dem in '08? or villa in 2011? or Liverpool when de spanked us 4-1 in '09?

parrotibaba:
dis is a ridiculous question even by ur standard ,u should also ask what happened to Eric jemba jemba , bebe ,obertan ,veron ,kleberson ,Alan smith ,Fabio ,liam miller ,kieran Richardson ,Darren Gibson ,Campbell ,etc

olabode89:
Bros stop jumping from pillar to post.... You have been cornered just accept that your "Lazy Fergie players" claim does not hold water.

We all know that Fergie's major weapon was his winning mentality and other attributes such as nurturing of talents, ability to make piss poor players astute professional and winning machines.

Fergie understood the rigor of seasonal football, bar injury he had his team sheets prepared already by the beginning of the season.

I also agree with the issue u raised concerning Fergie's Assistant coaches, the moment Carlos Q left, the team started having issues with recruiting young talented players and also some technicality with the modern game which Fergie was not really sound about meant we struggled against teams handled by master tacticians such as Guardiola, Mou, Bielsa etc. Yes men like d diick head, Mike Phelan contributed nothing to the team unlike Carlos Q, Steve Maclaren....

Elam-pawa although I enjoy ur "battles" with Coogar (dis man no gree battle for rap section again) on this thread, u got this particular claim wrong!

parrotibaba:
so ,Fletcher ,kagawa ,Dimitar berbatov ,carrick , evra r weak players baa?

tess1:
How are they fitter?

The defensive midfield problem has always been there since 2010/11 season i think and it's still there up till today.

Moyes destroyed everything at Utd. These are some of the player's comments:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2422051/Marouane-Fellaini-admits-struggling-Manchester-United-intensity-training.html#ixzz3cNgKjhTO

Ferdinand

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11096067/Rio-Ferdinand-hits-out-at-David-Moyess-tactics-while-in-charge-of-Manchester-United.html

coogar:
i dunno why you are surprised.
mr pawa told us fergie hid rooney from gerrard because gerrard always shackles rooney.

raumdeuter:
elampiro,

How you see the Nigerian Under 21 team. which of them you think say get prospect for future

elampiro:
Where is Ferdinand today? The same intensity training is what we have today under Gaal today. Weak bones would always complain.

elampiro:

Can you show me where I said the above. The bolded?
When guys here lose argument, they change it to look as if they had a genuine point. I said our backroom staff mismanaged our players in Ferguson's last few years. Then starboard and co said I was blaming SAF. I stated categorically that I was pointing at the backroom staff, I even mentioned that possibly the change of assistance caused it. But they went back to say I blame Ferguson to get sympathy from readers like you.

elampiro:
Obertan, bebe, etc never bossed games like Anderson and Cleverley did. [b]Cleverley was already a feared midfielder in 2008. In 2011 he had come of age. All of a sudden he couldnt come out of a three months injury half himself. We should questioned those who manage his return to fitness.

elampiro:


Can you show me where I said the above. The bolded?

When guys here lose argument, they change it to look as if they had a genuine point. I said our backroom staff mismanaged our players in Ferguson's last few years. Then starboard and co said I was blaming SAF. I stated categorically that I was pointing at the backroom staff, I even mentioned that possibly the change of assistant caused it. But they went back to say I blame Ferguson to get sympathy from readers like you.

tess1:
Looooooooooooooooooooooool!

Who feared Cleverley as a midfielder in 2008? When did he make his competitive debut for Man Utd? Where was Cleverley playing in 2008?

There's no point continuing this. Cleverley "already feared as a midfielder in 2008". I give up.

elampiro:
Exactly. Carrick will not last half a season before he goes for a long rest.

Evra got his muscles resurrected in Juventus.

Berbatov was on a steady decline.

Kagawa was going to be on a steady decline.

Anderson and Cleverley on a steady decline.

Compare the above players with Pogba and Tevez.

coogar:
i dunno why you are surprised.
mr pawa told us fergie hid rooney from gerrard because gerrard always shackles rooney.

elampiro:
Obertan, bebe, etc never bossed games like Anderson and Cleverley did. Cleverley was already a feared midfielder in 2008. In 2011 he had come of age. All of a sudden he couldnt come out of a three months injury half himself. We should questioned those who manage his return to fitness.

elampiro:
Coventry. Match played by our rookies.

All these were just one offs. Even Barca lose matches. Find another excuse not going to list matches spanning 5 seasons.

elampiro:
Exactly. Carrick will not last half a season before he goes for a long rest.

Evra got his muscles resurrected in Juventus.

Berbatov was on a steady decline.

Kagawa was going to be on a steady decline.

Anderson and Cleverley on a steady decline.

Compare the above players with Pogba and Tevez.

elampiro:
You dont know tactics. When we were to play Liverpool in the return leg, I wrote on this thread that Liverpool will not play Sterling on the left. They would be avoiding a Sterling vs Valencia clash because Val has the speed to stop him. They would rather he faced Blind. On match day, that was exactly what happened.

Some players do well against certain layers, it's not matter who is a better footballer. Vidic always did well against Drogba- power vs power. But Vidic was always eaten for Dinner by Torres.

Football is sense and tactics.

chrisley024:
Adam Bate picks out five questions for England manager Roy Hodgson after the team’s 0-0 draw with Republic of Ireland on Sunday…
Below is the excerpt that concerns our two players:

What is Rooney's best position?
This was not exactly a game to remember for many people in the Aviva Stadium but few performed further below par than Wayne Rooney. The low point came when the England captain squandered the clearest opening of the game - failing to control a Jordan Henderson pass that looked to have put him through on the Ireland goal.
He cut an isolated figure for periods of the game, attempting only 14 passes in 74 minutes, and while England assistant Gary Neville has admired the way that Rooney had embraced seeing less of the ball at Manchester United under Louis van Gaal, this was a test of that theory.

What is Jones's best position?
Former Manchester United and England midfielder Paul Scholes suggested in the build-up to Sunday's game that Phil Jones, his former team-mate, might not be clever enough to succeed at centre-back. Jones found himself at right-back against Ireland and produced a typically spirited performance in getting forward up the flank.
However, his physical characteristics mean that he is surely better suited to a central role. As Scholes points out, showing he has the savvy to match is another matter. Jones is 23 now and needs to nail down a role soon.
http://m.skysports.com/article/football//9877960


JACK OF ALL TRADE smh

SailorXY:
It's an unfortunate situation, especially with Rooney... all that earnings & yet have no idea if he's even the best for any position in LvG's squad!

the management's biggest mistake this summer will be to rely on Rooney as our point man next campaign - shrek is clearly not that good anymore.

elrony:
Rooney is so versatile, he might be deployed as a CB next season hahaha!!!

olabode89:
Lmao... To me SAF greatest mistake was not shipping out Wazza before his retirement. The MF held the club to ransome on two different occasions and contemplated about joining the enemy (City).

olabode89:
Lmao... To me SAF greatest mistake was not shipping out Wazza before his retirement. The MF held the club to ransome on two different occasions and contemplated about joining the enemy (City).