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sunnyt1:
Someone already said you wont understand any explanation, the fact is you cant view Christianity through a pragmatic prism, its more than science or philosophy. But I will try to make you understand anyway

1 Have you ever heard of the trinity, God the father, the son and the holy spirit, call it 3 in 1. Will you understand it if I call it a bundle that has 3 diff components where each segment represents and can replace the other. So Jesus was on earth then God the father was in heaven. Jesus said I and the father are one.

2 When God created the 1st Adam, satan defeated him. Adam was a perfect refined man without blemish but by falling for the devil he contaminated his blood hence the need for a 2nd Adam became necessary. The blood of Jesus, the 2nd Adam, was needed to pay for the sin of mankind and to elevate man from the dungeon which the the 1st Adam had dragged mankind into.

3 God the son, Jesus, came to the earth as a man to live among human and don’t human eat? Where you expecting the kind of Nickolas cage or Jumong kind of superhuman? He is not a magician, Jesus lived as the lowly, dining and wining with people, he even attended a wedding, rode on a donkey and what have you.

4 It’s the trinity. Like I explained above, God the father, the son and the holy spirit is a pack with 3 different components


But i think religion shouldnt be percieved with such mindset. Serve your God and love everybody, is there any logic in trying to discredit another man's believe?

atoleybaba:
d belief in Trinity is a pagan doctrine sir....Jesus is not God he himself said h is not God. Three is nothing like trinity in d bible...Jehovah God and Jesus and holy spirit and diff beings. Jehovah is God Jesus is his first being creation holy spirit is God active force which he uses to complete his task and bestow on us to protect and give us good sense of understanding did bible.

mannasy:
i dont mean to offend anyone or cause a debate here,just curious about what christians say.I have a few questions which are:
(1) if jesus was on earth when he was born who was up in the heaven.
(2)why must jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
(3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
(4)lastly is jesus the God himself or is his son.
please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

mannasy:
i dont mean to offend anyone or cause a debate here,just curious about what christians say.I have a few questions which are:
(1) if jesus was on earth when he was born who was up in the heaven.
Ans:God
(2)why must jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
Ans: at first Jesus was not necessarily the one that forgives, it was God. God was already regretting creating man because of our sinful nature and devil the accuser of the brethren was giving him reasons to and God in his perfect nature was unhappy with our imperfection so he said who will I send to redeem man thats when Jesus volunteered. The question God asked was more like who will prove to me that man was worth forgiving? So Jesus had to come in the flesh and not as a god so that he will feel all the pains that will feel. If you read your bible you notice that before Jesus was betrayed he was developing cold feet, that was just flesh speaking though he overcame and died for us but he proved to God that we humans want to do the right thing sometimes but our flesh ends up pulling us into doing wrong, that we are worth forgiving so God forgave us. Jesus is our intercessor, he quickly forgives us as a son mostly after going through a flesh as a human but God is supreme, he has to forgive us too, so thats why Jesus came to earth to give him reasons to forgive us.
(3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
Ans: Jesus was on earth as a god in a human body, he has to eat to sustain that body or the body will die and jesus will leave without completing his mission. The body feels pain, the body hungers and get thirsty, Jesus needed to experience all that for our redemption.
(4)lastly is jesus the God himself or is his son.
Ans: Jesus is not God himself but like he said if you have seen me then you have seen my father. Imagine a father and his firstborn son, the son will in most cases talk like the father, act like the father and believes in all his father's principles so when you see Jesus you have seen God because Jesus is the son that believes, understands and walks in his father's ways.
please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

sunnyt1:
I absolutely understand that some faith do not believe in the trinity, and iv even heard some people say "trinity" wasnt mentioned in the bible. Well, i will respectfully chose to think everyone is entitled to his/her desision.

atoleybaba:
if u refuse to leave wrong or false doctrine how will u grow spiritually anyways may God cont to guide u

sunnyt1:
Do you mean my believe in TRINITY is wrong or is a false believe?

May i ask a question pls, where do u worship?