Patchesagain:


Kondor-E satelight (an actual military reconnaissance satellite)

SIPRI arms database says South Africa bought an ordinary surveillance satellite used by Russian civilian ministry of defence office
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MikeCZAR:


Your ATR-42MP uses the Seaspray surveillance radar.

Citation needed....I dare you !
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Patchesagain:


You have said that your AT42 has a radar range of 300km

Now it is 400km?

lol, this is too funny

[size=16pt]ATR-42 Surveyor of NAF has 407 km radar range ! Fact !
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Patchesagain:


Gripen + Recon pods + Targeting pods = ISTAR that can operate in a contested air-space

Gripen is NOT anything ISTAR, it`s Recce pod NOT an ISTAR pod .....and NO on-board intelligence center-command and control integrated multiple computer systems console existing on a Gripen, all you have is pilot`s cockpit for flying.....Gripen is ZERO ISTAR, the RAF did most of the ISTAR job in Libya with USAF E-2 Hawkeye doing AWACS and NATO jets providing air cover against the half dead Libyan air force that refused to fly, and NATO air to surface missiles doing SEAD on the half dead Libyan defences.

Gripen jet does recce with pod, same way F-7 jet of Bangladesh does recce with pod, and the pod on the Gripen is same as the one for old school Jaguar jets flown by India.

Gripen jet recce.... how many hours endurance? what altitude above enemy air defences? what radar range? how many targets can be tracked at once? which airborne multiple computer console will process thousands of situational data for command-control ?

Gripen jet = F-7 jet = Jaguar jet = Gripen jet = ZERO ISTAR

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agaugust:
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Seaspray surveillance radar.

agaugust:


SIPRI arms database says South Africa bought an ordinary surveillance satellite used by Russian civilian ministry of defence office
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So then the SANDF is civilian because it is run by the Civilian Ministry of Defence?

Dont be an slowpoke

agaugust:


[size=16pt]ATR-42 Surveyor of NAF has 407 km radar range ! Fact !
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I refer you to your own post:

agaugust:
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agaugust:


[s]Gripen is NOT anything ISTAR, it`s Recce pod NOT an ISTAR pod .....and NO on-board intelligence center-command and control integrated multiple computer systems console existing on a Gripen, all you have is pilot`s cockpit for flying.....Gripen is ZERO ISTAR, the RAF did most of the ISTAR job in Libya with USAF E-2 Hawkeye doing AWACS and NATO jets providing air cover against the half dead Libyan air force that refused to fly, and NATO air to surface missiles doing SEAD on the half dead Libyan defences.

Gripen jet does recce with pod, same way F-7 jet of Bangladesh does recce with pod, and the pod on the Gripen is same as the one for old school Jaguar jets flown by India.

Gripen jet recce.... how many hours endurance? what altitude above enemy air defences? what radar range? how many targets can be tracked at once? which airborne multiple computer console will process thousands of situational data for command-control ?[/s]

Gripen jet = F-7 jet = Jaguar jet = Gripen jet = ZERO ISTAR

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Gripen with Recce pod complies with the definition of ISTAR

The "intelligence center-command and control integrated multiple computer systems console" will be on the ground - with info being streamed to it from the Gripen

MikeCZAR:
Seaspray surveillance radar.

stop behaving like a troll and provide evidence

MikeCZAR:
Even Hawk LEAD fighter trainer can conduct ISTAR missions.

Yes, SA is one of the leading countries in EW.

Hawk jet has NO radar you fool
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MikeCZAR:


Helicopters can gather intelligence.

The Gripen can gather surveillance.

The Cessna can gather intelligence.

SAAF helicopters have NO recce radar to gather intelligence.

Gripen with recce pod = F-7 jet with recce pod.

Cessna is a toy plane with ZERO radar.

One single NAF Beechcraft ISTAR aircraft outclasses and out-performs ALL the South African air force recce and surveillance aircraft combined.

SAAF = ZERO ISTAR in 21st century
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stillchris:


oh.. sorry... i forgot you are a dunce who can't understand simple things.

BBC reporter tobi oladipo and some other Nigerian journalists were taken onboard the ATR when the military was prepping to retake a town frim boko haram.

according to the channels reporter onboardd.." the ATR was relaying cordinates of enemy positions to troops on ground for artillery fire.
that's one.

secondly... Nigeriam military commanders get realtime video coverage at DHQ from one of our ISTAR platforms during the heated battles to reclaim territories.

i have given two instances of Nigeria's operational data link usage.

now be a good boy and give us south african one. not frim news articles.

ode oshi

South Africans know data-link only on paper, they have no idea about it`s operation in real combat.....Nigeria will educate them
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stillchris:



tantrum from an overgrown brat with poor intellectual capacity to engage objectively. what a pity

Na de NAF ATR-42 Surveyor ISTAR wey dey run every Southie iinsane o !

FighterPilot:


What does a reporter know about a military stuffs? Of course, the data stations related the information through radios and rather the ground forces did not see the enemy position on the monitors themselves.

In SANDF our ground forces see the enemy themselves in real time on their own monitors. Our ground forces uses cytoons which your poverty stricken forces have none.



https://www.defencetalk.com/thales-reveals-new-istar-system-for-south-africa-29185/

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-9351/

Dude, seriously ? You are posting SANDF army vehicle ISTAR as your air power airborne ISTAR ?

Does your army vehicles fly like aeroplanes? Are you so bastardized by ATR-42 that you cannot even think again?
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ATR42 is nothing but a wasteful expenditure. It is tantamount to buying luxury for a poor man who is not yet equipped for a bling.

FighterPilot:


What does a reporter know about a military stuffs? Of course, the data stations related the information through radios and rather the ground forces did not see the enemy position on the monitors themselves.

In SANDF our ground forces see the enemy themselves in real time on their own monitors. Our ground forces uses cytoons which your poverty stricken forces have none.



https://www.defencetalk.com/thales-reveals-new-istar-system-for-south-africa-29185/

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-9351/

Dude, seriously ? You are posting SANDF army vehicle ISTAR as your air power airborne ISTAR ?

Does your army vehicles fly like aeroplanes? Are you so bastardized by ATR-42 that you cannot even think again?
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You are posting hand carried 10 km range radars on this forum....u dey maaaad ?
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stillchris:


go back and read my comment you replied to again, then come back qnd read your response.

you'll realize your brain is getting older than your age.

and your ground radar is in no way up to Nigeria's ATR-2 or any ISTAR platforms we have.

you are still behind

The Southie `pilot fighter` is posting man-portable shoulder carried 10 km range radar, foot walking soldiers have become ISTAR aeroplane in South Africa o !
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homerac7:


Dan uwa na, you no dey show again for that naa? Kilosele? Mo notice wipe o dabi wipe iwo ati awon kan fe ma tango every time. Na wetin sele be dat abi other reasons ?

Well, mo miss contributions e gan o.

Egbon mi, me no dey show face for de , tori wipe mio mo kilo maa shele pelu new presido. Awon eniyan so wipe GMB fe ra F-16, gbogbo defence contract ti o wa ni pipeline ni won ma review, won maa da gbogbo nka ruu, so mi o tii mo nkan ti mo maa so ni ni mo se dake jeje o !

Thanks bros mi ! Na gode so sai !

stillchris:


go back and read my comment you replied to again, then come back qnd read your response.

you'll realize your brain is getting older than your age.

and your ground radar is in no way up to Nigeria's ATR-2 or any ISTAR platforms we have.

you are still behind

Your ATR 42 is just a one eyed slowpoke who is selfish to share information with others. That expense could have procured something better for you that is mostly basic like submarines.

patches689:


Kondor complies with the definition with ISTAR

Citation needed
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patches689:


majority of ISTAR units are ground based

....simply because SANDF-SAAF have ZERO airborne ISTAR
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agaugust:


Hawk jet has NO radar you fool
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With LinkZA it does

Fool

MikeCZAR:
Seaspray surveillance radar.

Citation needed....if your 50 million South African nation has the courage, post a citation now !

agaugust:


SAAF helicopters have NO recce radar to gather intelligence.

Gripen with recce pod = F-7 jet with recce pod.

Cessna is a toy plane with ZERO radar.

One single NAF Beechcraft ISTAR aircraft outclasses and out-performs ALL the South African air force recce and surveillance aircraft combined.

SAAF = ZERO ISTAR in 21st century
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Gripen Recce Pod > F-7 Recce Pod

Lynx has just such a radar

Cessna has the capabilities to comply with the definition of ISTAR

Your Beechcraft are not ISTAR platforms - they are VIP transport

agaugust:


South Africans know data-link only on paper, they have no idea about it`s operation in real combat.....Nigeria will educate them
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How can you educate us on that which you do not have?

Patchesagain:


With LinkZA it does

Fool

Hawk jet CANNOT work alone, needs Gripen jet to be airborne, you need multiple aircraft flying at the same time to do simple recce...LOL.

One single NAF Beechcraft ISTAR is = the whole SAAF aircraft fleet
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agaugust:


Dude, seriously ? You are posting SANDF army vehicle ISTAR as your air power airborne ISTAR ?

Does your army vehicles fly like aeroplanes? Are you so bastardized by ATR-42 that you cannot even think again?
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You are so bastardized that you dont realize that the majority of ISTAR units are ground based?

Patchesagain:


Gripen Recce Pod > F-7 Recce Pod

Citation needed !
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Patchesagain:


You are so bastardized that you dont realize that the majority of ISTAR units are ground based?

Citation URGENTLY needed
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agaugust:


Dude, seriously ? You are posting SANDF army vehicle ISTAR as your air power airborne ISTAR ?

Does your army vehicles fly like aeroplanes? Are you so bastardized by ATR-42 that you cannot even think again?
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You are posting hand carried 10 km range radars on this forum....u dey maaaad ?
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Are you saying that the Thales radar has a 10km range?

agaugust:


The Southie `pilot fighter` is posting man-portable shoulder carried 10 km range radar, foot walking soldiers have become ISTAR aeroplane in South Africa o !
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You know the range of the thales squire radar

So, why are you telling lies again? Your deceit shines through as usual!

Patchesagain:


Lynx has just such a radar

Lynx is naval helicopter on a warship, will it abandon the Valour frigate and go do land warfare ?