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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:26pm On Jun 15, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Then it would make sense to Nigeria acquiring amphibious like light amphibious tanks and other vehicles of that class.

Tracked vehicles are heavily armoured increasing their weight.
Yes, we also have amphibious vehicles. Tracked vehicles can transport troops in any terrain, especially in muddy terrain. Hence i mentioned marsh in my original post.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 4:27pm On Jun 15, 2015
Henry120:
Anything below making them right here at home is an exercise in futility.
Yeap I agree with to an extent ?
But what about ur immediate needs, or we should all fold our arms while people r dieing, nigeria should start building her own local defence industry that's the best way boost our military strength yet we still we need to meet our immediate needs !
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:29pm On Jun 15, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Then it would make sense to Nigeria acquiring amphibious like light amphibious tanks and other vehicles of that class.

Tracked vehicles are heavily armoured increasing their weight.
there are so many of this tracked vehicle which the former soviet army had amassed and now russia and former east block countries are refurbishing them and selling at a throwaway prices
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:31pm On Jun 15, 2015
bidexiii:
Yeap I agree with to an extent ?
But what about ur immediate needs, or we should all fold our arms while people r dieing, nigeria should start building her own local defence industry that's the best way boost our military strength yet we still we need to meet our immediate needs !
No no no, you buy some, and build some. People are getting killed in Pakistan, India, Turkey, Iran...... it however hasn't stopped them from building their industries.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 4:35pm On Jun 15, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Tracked vehicles lack mobility.

They are heavily armoured.

Have you read about the "relentless pursuit tactic" which the mercinaries/PMCs used in Nigeria with their trained strike force?
mercenaries wer never in Nigeria .pls stop tarnishing my country's image
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 4:36pm On Jun 15, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Tracked vehicles lack mobility.

They are heavily armoured.

Have you read about the "relentless pursuit tactic" which the mercinaries/PMCs used in Nigeria with their trained strike force?
Wheeled vehicles are light and they possess mobility yet they av limited in desert area the tyres get inmersed in desert dunes and they are soft targets to disable them
Wheeled vehicles do not dare thick swampy or thick forest terrain !

Tracked vehicles are heavy but it all about the design they av powefull engines to propelles them like the T-90, they cll it the flying tank, the ahbrams is heavy yet in desert area wheeled vehicles are no match to them !
In thick vegetation they crush every thing on there part ! Except for some western tanks/vehicles that can't swim and that's why I like russian technology there tracked vehicles r no match come desert or thick vegetation !
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 4:41pm On Jun 15, 2015
Henry120:
No no no, you buy some, and build some. People are getting killed in Pakistan, India, Turkey, Iran...... it however hasn't stopped them from building their industries.
Are u talking about most of these countries ; pakistan,indian,turkey,iran .... SoRry what war these countries r fighting ?
Let us tell our self the truth untill BH is bitting to almost zero, that's when u can now start thinking of developing ur own local industries ?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 4:50pm On Jun 15, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Tracked vehicles lack mobility.

They are heavily armoured.

Have you read about the "relentless pursuit tactic" which the mercinaries/PMCs used in Nigeria with their trained strike force?
Sorry am quaoting u for the 2nd time but I was shocked my ur statement u should not be d one talking like these !?
Tracked MBT's/IFV's don't speed in desert terrain they fly go to youtube and watch there video's wheeled vehicles would never dare that infact I av not seeing. Wheeled vehicle do not so what mobility are you talking about ?
In moody/swampy terrain wheeled vehicle get stalked but tracke vehicles smiles and say these is what am designed and meant for !!! And in thick vegetation they don't dare it !
What mobility are u saying ?
Tracked vehicles are rugged and designed for all terrain. Warfare !!!!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 10:06pm On Jun 15, 2015
giles14:
mercenaries wer never in Nigeria .pls stop tarnishing my country's image
It is not.

How is that tarnishing Nigeria's image?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 10:24pm On Jun 15, 2015
bidexiii:
Sorry am quaoting u for the 2nd time but I was shocked my ur statement u should not be d one talking like these !?
Tracked MBT's/IFV's don't speed in desert terrain they fly go to youtube and watch there video's wheeled vehicles would never dare that infact I av not seeing. Wheeled vehicle do not so what mobility are you talking about ?
In moody/swampy terrain wheeled vehicle get stalked but tracke vehicles smiles and say these is what am designed and meant for !!! And in thick vegetation they don't dare it !
What mobility are u saying ?
Tracked vehicles are rugged and designed for all terrain. Warfare !!!!
You know at times it is good to put patriotism aside.


Most tracked IFVs are heavily armoured compared to wheeled IFVs increasing their weight. They are also difficult to deal with in the field if broken down.

Majority of the countries which use tracked IFVs need them for urban warfare, where armour is needed not speed.

Most tracked vehicles maximum speed is below 89km/h compared to wheeled IFVs which can hit 100km/h+.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 10:30pm On Jun 15, 2015
bidexiii:
Yeap I agree with to an extent ?
But what about ur immediate needs, or we should all fold our arms while people r dieing, nigeria should start building her own local defence industry that's the best way boost our military strength yet we still we need to meet our immediate needs !
Do you know much Nigeria spends of defence?

You think socio-economic needs should be overlooked cause "you want locally owned defence technology"?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 10:33pm On Jun 15, 2015
bidexiii:
Are u talking about most of these countries ; pakistan,indian,turkey,iran .... SoRry what war these countries r fighting ?
Let us tell our self the truth untill BH is bitting to almost zero, that's when u can now start thinking of developing ur own local industries ?
Did you just ask what wars are Pakistan, India, Turkey and Iran are fighting? undecided undecided undecided
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii:
MikeCZAR:
Did you just ask what wars are Pakistan, India, Turkey and Iran are fighting? undecided undecided undecided
Yeap u can answer the question ! What war are they fighting how many soldiers/battalion av they deployed ? who are they fighting ? And an estimate of field mechanism/equipment they av deployed ? .... Pakistan,turkey,india and iran ?!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:54am On Jun 16, 2015
bidexiii:
Yeap u can answer the question ! What war are they fighting how many soldiers av they deployed ? And who are they fighting ?
Bidexiii..... how can you be asking this question?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 7:10am On Jun 16, 2015
MikeCZAR:
You know at times it is good to put patriotism aside.


Most tracked IFVs are heavily armoured compared to wheeled IFVs increasing their weight. They are also difficult to deal with in the field if broken down.

Majority of the countries which use tracked IFVs need them for urban warfare, where armour is needed not speed.

Most tracked vehicles maximum speed is below 89km/h compared to wheeled IFVs which can hit 100km/h+.
Who is talking about patriotism here ? Or u r the one who does not know what his talkimg about here !
wheeled vehicles are only good on strong ground/road, hence limiting there performance ! Its a common sence they get stalked in the desert,swampy/muddy area and can't be used in thick vegetation !
And tracked vehicle fly in desert area,glide in muddy area and crush anything on there part in thick vegetation !
Even a lain man knows that ?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by zookie: 7:37am On Jun 16, 2015
bidexiii:
#Nigeria Army officers assessing the #Pakistan Heavy
Industries Taxila Dragoon Armoured Security Vehicle for
PKOs &IS pic.twitter.com/fDkaRyFNbq

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 10:49am On Jun 16, 2015
MikeCZAR:
You know at times it is good to put patriotism aside.


Most tracked IFVs are heavily armoured compared to wheeled IFVs increasing their weight. They are also difficult to deal with in the field if broken down.

Majority of the countries which use tracked IFVs need them for urban warfare, where armour is needed not speed.

Most tracked vehicles maximum speed is below 89km/h compared to wheeled IFVs which can hit 100km/h+.
Dude. Nigeria is not south Africa

Different climate

Different environment

And different military requirements

What Nigeria acquires is not for SANDF.

There are areas in the sambisa forest that are marshy and not accessible to wheeled vehicles. So our requirements are diverse.

I told you to stop acting like you know stuff cos most times you come off sounding ignorant.

Your knowledge seems to be confined to south African affairs
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 10:50am On Jun 16, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Do you know much Nigeria spends of defence?

You think socio-economic needs should be overlooked cause "you want locally owned defence technology"?
Dude, just shut up

You are not making sense
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 12:19pm On Jun 16, 2015
bidexiii:
Yeap u can answer the question ! What war are they fighting how many soldiers/battalion av they deployed ? who are they fighting ? And an estimate of field mechanism/equipment they av deployed ? .... Pakistan,turkey,india and iran ?!
Really dude? undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 12:21pm On Jun 16, 2015
bidexiii:
Who is talking about patriotism here ? Or u r the one who does not know what his talkimg about here !
wheeled vehicles are only good on strong ground/road, hence limiting there performance ! Its a common sence they get stalked in the desert,swampy/muddy area and can't be used in thick vegetation !
And tracked vehicle fly in desert area,glide in muddy area and crush anything on there part in thick vegetation !
Even a lain man knows that ?
Try do a bit investigation before you form your argument!

Cause right I just feel like telling you "YOU DON'T......."
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR:
stillchris:
Dude. Nigeria is not south Africa

Different climate

Different environment

And different military requirements

What Nigeria acquires is not for SANDF.

There are areas in the sambisa forest that are marshy and not accessible to wheeled vehicles. So our requirements are diverse.

I told you to stop acting like you know stuff cos most times you come off sounding ignorant.

Your knowledge seems to be confined to south African affairs
Who mentioned the SANDF?

Really there's something wrong with some of you Nigerians, who always feel attacked all the time.

Do you know how troubling it is to operate. Tracked vehicles in marshy areas with mud?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 12:30pm On Jun 16, 2015
stillchris:
Dude, just shut up

You are not making sense
Tell us where will the Nigerian armed forces find money to support local defence R & D ?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 1:16pm On Jun 16, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Tell us where will the Nigerian armed forces find money to support local defence R & D ?
d way y speak is so funny,wot do u mean DAT were will we find d money.d money is dere wot is lacking is just d political will.n pls wot made u tink we don't have d money. really waiting for your reply
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 3:39pm On Jun 16, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Try do a bit investigation before you form your argument!

Cause right I just feel like telling you "YOU DON'T......."
You should. Be the one first to do ur investigation 1st because u r clueless and no point to butress ur point !
Cos right now iran,pakistan,indian and those countries u mentioned r fighting no war !
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 4:44pm On Jun 16, 2015
denisfidha:
On the contrary I don't have an attitude, I believe very strongly in African invention, and every-time I see government ignore a young mind who come up with brilliant inventions, my heart just bleeds with pain.

I just have a different view about we Africans, in my view, we seem to be satisfied with the small achievements we made in the past. Yes we might have made steel and metal, they(non-africans) used steel to make engines and steam to power trains and then later made electricity and powered cars.while we were satisfied with donkeys and horses for transport. the more important question is where are we now? what have we done with the steel weapons that some of us made? Mathematics and architecture was born in Egypt, where can you find the greatest architectural fetes moderm times? or the reas mahematicl and egeneering achievments? not Egypt. We shouldn't be satisfied with history. we have the resources to achieve great things, but we have to get serious and develop an appetite for new inventions


e.g.
Kenya Air-force which up to date, still boasts of an F-5 that rebuilt from scratch - something which Northrop had said it couldn't be done anywhere else outside of their main factory) https://nyambegagisesa./2015/04/10/how-kenya-air-force-set-history-by-repairing-jet-fighter-that-outside-factory/ its a very interesting story!


So they rebuilt it from scratch. A great achievement, but what has happened since then? the guy who built it was the best of his class while studying in USA. We have the knowledge required, by now we should have had an air-force engineering school dedicated to coming up with at-least a prototype of a low cost fighter that will satisfy the requirements our Air-force. But look a us, still dependent on foreign tech.

Am just passion for that achievement that will say. Yes we have arrived and we are ere take the word by storm, and nothing will stop us
THANKS! Just read that story.Actually by now we should be licence building our own transports and ships! IMHO,KAFTECH and the Numerical Machining Plant which has the tech to produce jet engines are wayyyyyy underutilised.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 6:32pm On Jun 16, 2015
giles14:
d way y speak is so funny,wot do u mean DAT were will we find d money.d money is dere wot is lacking is just d political will.n pls wot made u tink we don't have d money. really waiting for your reply
Nigeria has money but not much goes to defence.

Please try type full words to make it easy too read.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 6:34pm On Jun 16, 2015
bidexiii:
You should. Be the one first to do ur investigation 1st because u r clueless and no point to butress ur point !
Cos right now iran,pakistan,indian and those countries u mentioned r fighting no war !
I shall refrain from replying to your posts.

You're delusional.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 8:07pm On Jun 16, 2015
MikeCZAR:
I shall refrain from replying to your posts.

You're delusional.
Then I you're a NOVICE .... Its a waste of time discussing such issues with you !
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:29pm On Jun 16, 2015
Thank you guys, we post photos here, not fights. Let's keep it civil.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gottfried21(m): 8:45pm On Jun 16, 2015
A chief Inspector in the Namibian police force
With seized weapons..

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:19am On Jun 17, 2015
Nigerian Air Force Delegation discussing with Pakistani Air force JF-17 delegation at the Paris Air Show.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:10am On Jun 17, 2015
Nigerian Air Force

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