MikeCZAR:


1. We don't need them. Firstly look the equipment quantity in battles fought on the continent since WW2.

2. Heaviest battles are brigade sized ones. Beyond that. Deployment of division sized infantry forces for conventional battles is mostly in rebel standards. Where equipment quantity doesn't correlates to troop numbers or should I say there's no hand and glove relationship.

A. A well equipped and trained standardised brigade can send such formations running.


3. I think Scud story should be taken with a pinch of salt. Scud missiles are notorious for being in accurate.

4. The Iskander tactical ballastic missile is what would keep me awake if I heard "The Russian are coming".

there are other strategic target that can be engaged including cities,ports,airport even well dispersed enemy forces can be targeted with multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle which iran has shown its capable to do.its even cheaper to maintain ballistic missiles than a squadron of aircraft .if you believe they are not accurate watch the following video and dont assume by now countries like iran,north korea have not acquired better inertial navigation system from scavenged old soviet missiles on the black market and copied them

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78anLlOvLlk

africaken:
there are other strategic target that can be engaged including cities,ports,airport even well dispersed enemy forces can be targeted with multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle which iran has shown its capable to do.its even cheaper to maintain ballistic missiles than a squadron of aircraft .if you believe they are not accurate watch the following video and dont assume by now countries like iran,north korea have not acquired better inertial navigation system from scavenged old soviet missiles on the black market and copied them

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78anLlOvLlk

We don't fight wars at those levels(Division to army sized battles).

MikeCZAR:
We don't fight wars at those levels(Division to army sized battles).

that was a headquarter that was being targeted

africaken:
that was a headquarter that was being targeted

We don't need them now. I'm all for first building respectable militaries with decent structures. Ballistics missile capabilities can come later, besides, the U.S and the west would definetly quack at such a move, and we cant guarantee we now how the sort of relationship with China and Russia that would assure the survivability of the program.

Henry120:


We don't need them now. I'm all for first building respectable militaries with decent structures. Ballistics missile capabilities can come later, besides, the U.S and the west would definetly quack at such a move, and we cant guarantee we now how the sort of relationship with China and Russia that would assure the survivability of the program.

lets first ask ourselves this question,what sort of air defence systems do most african countries have ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OsEyPaiD0

kenya army mamba mk5 in somalia

africaken:
lets first ask ourselves this question,what sort of air defence systems do most african countries have ?

African countries in SSA do not have proper ADS.

Nigerian COIN

africaken:
lets first ask ourselves this question,what sort of air defence systems do most african countries have ?

Poor. All Sub-saharan countries.

Former KAF gazelle

MikeCZAR:
Poor. All Sub-saharan countries.

i remember back after south sudan independence when sudan was bombing south sudan territory with antonov bombers.i why can't they just buy a soviet era SAM,knowing well how much millions they were making selling crude oil.to this day its claimed sudan is air dropping ammo and weapons inside south sudan territory to machar forces http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/06/02/report-sudan-airdropping-weapons-and-ammunition-to-south-sudan-rebels-over-last/

africaken:
i remember back after south sudan independence when sudan was bombing south sudan territory with antonov bombers.i why can't they just buy a soviet era SAM,knowing well how much millions they were making selling crude oil.to this day its claimed sudan is air dropping ammo and weapons inside south sudan territory to machar forces http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/06/02/report-sudan-airdropping-weapons-and-ammunition-to-south-sudan-rebels-over-last/

They recently as of last year acquired Chinese MANPADS.

MikeCZAR:
They recently as of last year acquired Chinese MANPADS.

i believe if they wanted to get a BUK they can

kenyan troops in kismayo

Suicide bombers attack police HQ in Chad's capital

Two blasts outside the police headquarters and academy have killed at least 10 people in the capital of Chad, whose forces have been instrumental in fighting armed group Boko Haram in neighbouring Nigeria, police officials have said.
The country's interior minister said at least one suicide bomber attacked the police and intelligence offices in N'Djamena on Monday, with social media reports indicating causalities.
Interior Minister Abderahim Bireme Hamid told the Reuters news agency that security forces had locked down the area but the situation was ongoing.
A police official who spoke on condition of anonymity as he was not authorised to speak to the media said at least 10 people had been killed in that attack, according to the AP news agency.
Security sources told Reuters that death toll is at least 20.
Social media users in the capital said that a number of deaths had been reported and that Boko Haram was suspected of carrying out the attack.
The government convened an emergency meeting following the explosions, an official said on condition of anonymity.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/06/suicide-bombers-attack-police-hq-chad-capital-150615095910055.html

africaken:
i believe if they wanted to get a BUK they can

kenyan troops in kismayo

Too expensive and sophisticated.

MikeCZAR:
Too expensive and sophisticated.

how much and give me the link

#Nigeria Army officers assessing the #Pakistan Heavy Industries Taxila Dragoon Armoured Security Vehicle for PKOs &IS pic.twitter.com/fDkaRyFNbq

uganda army weapons

A Caucasian and 2 white guys including 1 suspected Briton who when to Somalia via Egypt is among the dead in a botched attack on a military barracks and villages in Lamu county. This come just two days after interior secretary warned of possible attacked by AS seeking to mark the aniversary of Mpeketoni attack that happended in the same area


Guns recovered and bodies being transported to Nairobi for forensics

more uganda army weapons

bidexiii:
#Nigeria Army officers assessing the #Pakistan Heavy
Industries Taxila Dragoon Armoured Security Vehicle for
PKOs &IS pic.twitter.com/fDkaRyFNbq

This is more like it.

I don't why African armies still buy tracked armoured vehicles.

africaken:
how much and give me the link

Like Citation?

South Sudan can't buy the Buk air defence system. Simply out of their class.

more uganda army weaponry

MikeCZAR:
This is more like it.

I don't why African armies still buy tracked armoured vehicles.

I don't know why african armies still buy tracked armored vehicles ? If I get u right !

But you know a tracked armored vehicle as a greater advantage than wheeled armored vehicle . For wheeled vehicles there tyres are always a soft spot and tracked vehicles are rugged come desert or forest terrain as compared to wheeled vehicles !

bidexiii:
#Nigeria Army officers assessing the #Pakistan Heavy
Industries Taxila Dragoon Armoured Security Vehicle for
PKOs &IS pic.twitter.com/fDkaRyFNbq

Anything below making them right here at home is an exercise in futility.

bidexiii:


I don't know why african armies still buy tracked armored vehicles ? If I get u right !

But you know a tracked armored vehicle as a greater advantage than wheeled armored vehicle . For wheeled vehicles there tyres are always a soft spot and tracked vehicles are rugged come desert or forest terrain as compared to wheeled vehicles !

Tracked vehicles lack mobility.

They are heavily armoured.

Have you read about the "relentless pursuit tactic" which the mercinaries/PMCs used in Nigeria with their trained strike force?

Henry120:


Anything below making them right here at home is an exercise in futility.

Maybe the company was demonstrating them for the Nigerian armed forces.


It is important to keep track of such activities.

MikeCZAR:
This is more like it.

I don't why African armies still buy tracked armoured vehicles.

Nigeria has the Niger-Delta, a large swampy and marshy area larger than Belgium and the netherlands combined.


We have an actual, operational need for wheeled vehicles.

MikeCZAR:
Maybe the company was demonstrating them for the Nigerian armed forces.


It is important to keep track of such activities.

It is a demonstration in Pakistan, off-course. My comment was directed at " going further".

Henry120:


Nigeria has the Niger-Delta, a large swampy and marshy area larger than Belgium and the netherlands combined.


We have an actual, operational need for wheeled vehicles.

Then it would make sense to Nigeria acquiring amphibious like light amphibious tanks and other vehicles of that class.

Tracked vehicles are heavily armoured increasing their weight.

MikeCZAR:
Like Citation?

South Sudan can't buy the Buk air defence system. Simply out of their class.

but its with their class to buy a fleet Mi-17 helicopters and not a weapon system that cost 9 generation BUK -M2 costing 70 million dollars.a country prior to the latest civil was earnings billions of dollars in oil revenue.