italo:


1. Which boy is mad? Lagos Govt?

2. You obviously know nothing about the Benin Empire at the height of its powers. The Benin Empire extended from today's Edo/Delta to Benin Republic.

You think Benin Empire was only Benin City of today...because you refuse to educate yourself.

I wonder if they still teach history in schools? He displays such ignorance... Kai

#change

WisdomFlakes:
The flat heads will never learn. Na so Dem do sotay the indigenes of Port Harcourt seized their properties after the civil war calling it "abandoned property".Upon all their noise till today they are yet to reclaim a single property back from the ikwerres. It's like they are a cursed race, trouble follows them about. Be prepared for the PH treatment folks . We will treat your fo.ckups

From the safety of your home, it's easy to challenge even America. Those who do the real thing are quiet.

Change2015:


You understand this. The binis acknowledge their historical ties to lagos and the Yorubas, but they have never made any noise about lagos being a no man's land, or made any claims to it. That is a significant difference.

#change
#GMB
#APC
#oneNigeria

Yes. Perhaps the Binis left the 'noise making' to the Lagos State Govt. It was they thar said Lagos is no man's land.

macjive01:


AND WHO SAID AWORIS ARE YORUBAs ?

ARE IKWERRES, IGBOS ?

From the OP:
"History has it that the Awori were actually from Ife the cradle of Yorubaland. The Awori people are a peaceful people initially not taken to warfare."

The Awori are a tribe of the Yoruba people
speaking a distinct dialect of the Yoruba
language....The Aworis are thought to be a peace-loving, accommodating and friendly clan.-- That's why most non-yorubas can live with them peacefully.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awori_tribe

italo:


Please guys, there is no need to insult Igbos over this thread.

This thread has nothing to do with Igbos.

This thread is just to prove that no tribe can claim Lagos....and that even the Oba of Lagos who claims to own Lagos is from Benin Lineage. [s]Even "Eko" is a Benin word.[/s]

This is not just my view, but the view of Lagos State Government.

Your source says Lagos was called "Eko" by the binis....it also says the word stems from yoruba source.

"Lagos was originally called Eko, which
stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm"
or Eko (war camp)."


If an English Man calls 'Chiedozie' (an igbo boy,) 'Chedzoy,' does that make 'Chedzoy' an English word?

italo:

You are grossly uneducated in this matter.
The Yorubas are subjects to Binis.
Tell us the Yoruba meanings of Oduduwa and Eko...if you disagree.

No, rather the Binis are subject to the Yorubas.
Oduduwa is a contraction of the name.
Tell us the meaning of 'Oduduwa' (as it is) in Bini.

italo:


You obviously know nothing about the Benin Empire at the height of its powers. The Benin Empire extended from today's Edo/Delta to Benin Republic.

You think Benin Empire was only Benin City of today...because you refuse to educate yourself.

The bold is a lie.

Go back to your facts and educate yourself.

Yorubas love their homeland so much that you can NEVER see them going crazy over other people's land. You can never find them in the north and other areas of Nigeria fighting for indigineship in ANY state or disrespecting their host or claiming their host land is a no man's Land. Because they love and are proud of their homeland and this goes to most of the other tribes in Nigeria. But you will always find this ONLY 1 tribe doing otherwise .it's ONLY them . Now tell me anywhere in lagos state that their King is an emir or obi?from epe to Isolo to ikorodu even sef ikoyi (onikoyi of ikoyi) they are all Obas even the small areas have Baales. So whoever term Lagos as a no man's Land is obviously a BASTARD. .....this is the consequence of Babies being born in Baby factories all over that place. How can they love their place when they can't even know how they were born or who their real fathers are.?? I have said it before, one day you will push the omoniles and by the time the agberos get in the mix? Na another story o. I word is enough ....

adsonstone:


The bold is a lie.

Go back to your facts and educate yourself.

Then why was the name of the country changed from "Dahomey" to "Benin?"

"He established a hereditary succession to the throne and vastly expanded the territory of the Benin kingdom, which by the mid-16th century extended from the Niger River delta in the east to what is now Lagos in the west. (Lagos was in fact founded by a Benin army and continued to pay tribute to the oba of Benin until the end of the 19th century.)"

http://www.britannica.com/place/Benin-historical-kingdom-West-Africa

After Lagos, it is Benin Republic to the west.

tiger28:
Yorubas love their homeland so much that you can NEVER see them going crazy over other people's land. You can never find them in the north and other areas of Nigeria fighting for indigineship in ANY state or disrespecting their host or claiming their host land is a no man's Land. Because they love and are proud of their homeland and this goes to most of the other tribes in Nigeria. But you will always find this ONLY 1 tribe doing otherwise .it's ONLY them . Now tell me anywhere in lagos state that their King is an emir or obi?from epe to Isolo to ikorodu even sef ikoyi (onikoyi of ikoyi) they are all Obas even the small areas have Baales. So whoever term Lagos as a no man's Land is obviously a BASTARD. .....this is the consequence of Babies being born in Baby factories all over that place. How can they love their place when they can't even know how they were born or who their real fathers are.?? I have said it before, one day you will push the omoniles and by the time the agberos get in the mix? Na another story o. I word is enough ....

1. Yorubas don't love their homeland. They are just cowardly and lazy. That's why they gave up their land to the British, the Binis (Lagos) and the Fulanis (Kwara) without a fight.

2. It is the Lagos State Govt that called Lagos "no man's land," not Igbos or anyone else.

adsonstone:


No, rather the Binis are subject to the Yorubas.

Oduduwa is a contraction of the name.

Tell us the meaning of 'Oduduwa' (as it is) in Bini.

Oduduwa has no meaning in Yoruba or Edo language. It is a corruption of the Bini name "Imadoduwa" which means "I did not miss the path to glory."

Oduduwa was Bini Prince Ekaladerhan Imadoduwa. He didn't fall from the sky as Yoruba lying "scholars" say.

The Lagos State Govt admits that Bini Prince Ado conquered the cowardly Aworis without a shot...and you are here lying that Binis are subject to Yorubas.

Anyway I have always known you to revel in lies.

italo:


Oduduwa has no meaning in Yoruba or Edo language. It is a corruption of the Bini name "Imadoduwa" which means "I did not miss the path to glory."

Oduduwa was Bini Prince Ekaladerhan Imadoduwa. He didn't fall from the sky as Yoruba lying "scholars" say.

The Lagos State Govt admits that Bini Prince Ado conquered the cowardly Aworis without a shot...and you are here lying that Binis are subject to Yorubas.

Anyway I have always known you to revel in lies.

One of the reasons why people do not bother to research about their history is because they are scared to find out the truth.

Its easier to live in a lie as long as it massages ones ego and gives one a sense of self worth. Unfortunately, we live in a country where reviewing of information/knowledge/history is not regarded as relevant

adsonstone:


Your source says Lagos was called "Eko" by the binis....it also says the word stems from yoruba source.

"Lagos was originally called Eko, which
stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm"
or Eko (war camp)."


If an English Man calls 'Chiedozie' (an igbo boy,) 'Chedzoy,' does that make 'Chedzoy' an English word?

It is not my source, it is your Yoruba Lagos Govt source trying what they can to make the story a little dignifying for Yorubas.

Stop lying. "Eko" has no meaning in Yoruba.

Lie some more...

What is the Yoruba meaning of Idumota, Idumagbo, Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro etc?

All these words are Edo words of corruption of them.

They bear witness to Lagos being a Benin colony.

hahn:


One of the reasons why people do not bother to research about their history is because they are scared to find out the truth.

Its easier to live in a lie as long as it massages ones ego and gives one a sense of self worth. Unfortunately, we live in a country where reviewing of information/knowledge/history is not regarded as relevant

Very true.

In other words, Lagos belongs to everybody and belongs to Nobody.








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italo:


Oduduwa has no meaning in Yoruba or Edo language. It is a corruption of the Bini name "Imadoduwa" which means "I did not miss the path to glory."

Oduduwa was Bini Prince Ekaladerhan Imadoduwa. He didn't fall from the sky as Yoruba lying "scholars" say.



Anyway I have always known you to revel in lies.

There are no lies here.

Prince Ekaladerhan was banished from Bini, banishment then, entails total disconnection from the region. Once a person is banished then in bini, he ceases to be a member of that community...this act is very similar to excommunication in the Roman Catholic Church.

History wise, Prince Ekaladerhan is not fit to be called a bini man...just as Martin Luther isn't fit to be regarded as a Roman Catholic Priest.

italo:

The Lagos State Govt admits that Bini Prince Ado conquered the cowardly Aworis without a shot...and you are here lying that Binis are subject to Yorubas.

You call the Aworis cowardly?

Your source says they are peace loving people, not cowards.

italo:


It is not my source, it is your Yoruba Lagos Govt source trying what they can to make the story a little dignifying for Yorubas.

Stop lying. "Eko" has no meaning in Yoruba.

Lie some more...

What is the Yoruba meaning of Idumota, Idumagbo, Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro etc?

All these words are Edo words of corruption of them.

They bear witness to Lagos being a Benin colony.

Those words have roots in Bini language.

You don't need to try to turn it upside down


Who should stop lying?
Your Lagos State Govt source?

Not just your Lagos State government source;
Here's what Wikipedia has to say:

"Prior to Lagos being adopted, the settlement
was called Eko by its Kingdom of Benin
conquerors, which stems from either Oko
(Yoruba: "cassava farm" or Eko ("war camp"."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos

Maybe Lagos State govt. copied Wikipedia or vice versa


If an English Man calls 'Chiedozie' (an igbo boy,) 'Chedzoy,' does that make 'Chedzoy' an English word?

italo:


1. Yorubas don't love their homeland. They are just cowardly and lazy. That's why they gave up their land to the British, the Binis (Lagos) and the Fulanis (Kwara) without a fight.

2. It is the Lagos State Govt that called Lagos "no man's land," not Igbos or anyone else.

1. Must they always fight? Besides, who told you they did not fight?

2. If tomorrow, the Lagos State Govt. says Lagos is an Igboland, would that be true? or does it make Lagos an Igboland?

Answer honestly if you can ever be honest.

italo:


Then why was the name of the country changed from "Dahomey" to "Benin?"

"He established a hereditary succession to the throne and vastly expanded the territory of the Benin kingdom, which by the mid-16th century extended from the Niger River delta in the east to what is now Lagos in the west. (Lagos was in fact founded by a Benin army and continued to pay tribute to the oba of Benin until the end of the 19th century.)"

http://www.britannica.com/place/Benin-historical-kingdom-West-Africa

After Lagos, it is Benin Republic to the west.

You tell why, you claimed Bini empire reached present day Benin Republic....your source does not confirm that.

Dahomey was changed to Benin Republic in 1975---- about 15 years after their independence in 1960.


History tells that only the powerful Oyo empire reached the present Benin Republic and not the Bini empire.

italo:


1. Yorubas don't love their homeland. They are just cowardly and lazy. That's why they gave up their land to the British, the Binis (Lagos) and the Fulanis (Kwara) without a fight.

2. It is the Lagos State Govt that called Lagos "no man's land," not Igbos or anyone else.

shut up there, we know the ONLY tribe that's jostling for other people's land. The nupes aren't, the Ijaws aren't , the hausas aren't, the idomas aren't , even the Binis aren't but we know the only ones that have been beating their chest about this issues always.

tiger28:
shut up there, we know the ONLY tribe that's jostling for other people's land. The nupes aren't, the Ijaws aren't , the hausas aren't, the idomas aren't , even the Binis aren't but we know the only ones that have been beating their chest about this issues always.

The Hausas are constantly fighting the indigenes in Jos. Fulanis are destroying indigenes farms all over the country and killing hundreds of indegenes. The Warri crisis saw Itsekiri, Urhobos, Ijaws, Isokos fight over the city of Warri.

Binis colonized Lagos, according to Lagos State Govt. The Fulanis colonized Ilorin. The British colonized Lagos.

Igbos have not laid a finger on anyone, yet they are the ones being maligned.

You are ignorant...and that is why you're making such senseless comment.

When you are enlightened, you will be freed from the dark shackles of undue hatred and envy for people who are doing better than you.

adsonstone:


You tell why, you claimed Bini empire reached present day Benin Republic....your source does not confirm that.

Dahomey was changed to Benin Republic in 1975---- about 15 years after their independence in 1960.


History tells that only the powerful Oyo empire reached the present Benin Republic and not the Bini empire.

The first name of the Benin Empire, since its creation some time in the first millenium (i.e, before year 1000) CE, was Igodomigodo, as called by its own inhabitants. Their ruler was called Ogiso.[3]

Nowadays, nearly 36 known Ogiso are accounted for as rulers of this first form of the state. According to the Edo oral tradition, during the reign of the last Ogiso, his son and heir apparent, Ekaladerhan, was banished from Igodomigodo as a result of one of the Queens having deliberately changed an oracle message to the Ogiso. Prince Ekaladerhan was a powerful warrior and well loved. On leaving Benin he travelled westernly to the land of the Yoruba where he became king and renamed himself Izoduwa, which is now corrupt to Oduduwa by Yorubas. Most Edo cultures and festival ethnics are now practiced by Yorubas such as Ishango, Ogun, Festac of Idia Mother of Oba Esigie of Benin. Also most foods of the Edo are now consumed by the Yorubas, such as Iyan, Eman, Usi, Ighiawo and Ogi. Most current cities in West Nigeria are a mix of Edo and Yoruba, such as Ekiti, Kogi, Oyo, Ogun, Ondo and Lagos itself.

On the death of his father, the last Ogiso, a group of Benin Chiefs led by Chief Oliha came to Ife, pleading with Oduduwa (the Ooni) to return to Igodomigodo (later known as Benin City in the 15th century during Oba Ewuare) to ascend the throne. Oduduwa's reply was that a ruler cannot leave his domain but he had seven sons and would ask one of them to go back to become the next king there.

Eweka I was the first 'Oba' or king of the new dynasty after the end of the era of Ogiso. He changed the ancient name of Igodomigodo to Edo.

Centuries later, in 1440, Oba Ewuare, also known as Ewuare the Great, came to power and turned the city-state into an empire. It was only at this time that the administrative centre of the kingdom began to be referred to as Ubinu after the Itsekhiri word and corrupted to Bini by the Itsekhiri, Edo, Urhobo living together in the royal administrative centre of the kingdom. The Portuguese who arrived in 1485 would refer to it as Benin and the centre would become known as Benin City and its empire Benin Empire.

The Ancient Benin Empire, as with the Oyo Empire which eventually gained political ascendancy over even Ile-Ife, gained political strength and ascendancy over much of what is now Mid-Western and Western Nigeria, with the Oyo Empire bordering it on the west, the Niger river on the east, and the northerly lands succumbing to Fulani Muslim invasion in the North. Interestingly, much of what is now known as Western Iboland and even Yorubaland was conquered by the Benin Kingdom in the late 19th century - Agbor (Ika), Akure, Owo and even the present day Lagos Island, which was named "Eko" meaning "War Camp" by the Bini.

The present day Monarchy of Lagos Island did not come directly from Ile-Ife, but from Bini, and this can be seen up till in the attire of the Oba and High Chiefs of Lagos, and in the street and area names of Lagos Island which are Yoruba corruptions of Bini names (Idumagbo, Idumota, Igbosere etc.). Other parts of the present day Lagos State were under Ijebu, and later Edo now conquer Ijebu and enlarge is domain to Dahomey (tossed between the Dahomey Kingdom, with its seat in present day Republic of Benin, and the Bini Kingdom).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire

PROUDLY EDO

PROUDLY ADVISE EVERYONE TO READ http://www.edofolks.com/html/hist.htm TO KNOW MORE ABT EDO PEOPLE

adsonstone:


You tell why, you claimed Bini empire reached present day Benin Republic....your source does not confirm that.

Dahomey was changed to Benin Republic in 1975---- about 15 years after their independence in 1960.


History tells that only the powerful Oyo empire reached the present Benin Republic and not the Bini empire.

Is there a space between Lagos and Benin Republic?

Powerful Oyo empire that was founded and ruled by a Bini Prince and his descendants.

WisdomFlakes:
The flat heads will never learn. Na so Dem do sotay the indigenes of Port Harcourt seized their properties after the civil war calling it "abandoned property".Upon all their noise till today they are yet to reclaim a single property back from the ikwerres. It's like they are a cursed race, trouble follows them about. Be prepared for the PH treatment folks . We will treat your fo.ckups

you mango heads with ur legendary cowardice, you can never fight ur battle alone, wetin come concern Igbo for this matter. Make Una no let Igbo give una heart failure o

italo:


Please guys, there is no need to insult Igbos over this thread.

This thread has nothing to do with Igbos.

This thread is just to prove that no tribe can claim Lagos....and that even the Oba of Lagos who claims to own Lagos is from Benin Lineage. Even "Eko" is a Benin word.

This is not just my view, but the view of Lagos State Government.

my brother don't mind d useless idiots in dis forum a times I find it difficult to understand why d yorubas find it so inferior to the igbos. Now a reportl is published by the Lagos stare govt nd next the yorubas blame the igbos. The Yorubas blame Igbos for their cowardice, poverty, laziness, and hypocrisy.

italo:


Is there a space between Lagos and Benin Republic?

Powerful Oyo empire that was founded and ruled by a Bini Prince and his descendants.

There's no space.
Benin is directly beside it.

Oyo Empire was totally distinct from Bini Empire in virtually all ways....as a matter of fact, the powerful Oyo empire attempted taking over the Bini Empire, though it failed but continued to grow.

Have you now eaten your lie that Bini empire extended to modern day Benin Republic?

Or do you still wanna stick to your lie to feed your ego in public?

adsonstone:


There's no space.
Benin is directly beside it.

Oyo Empire was totally distinct from Bini Empire in virtually all ways....as a matter of fact, the powerful Oyo empire attempted taking over the Bini Empire, though it failed but continued to grow.

Have you now eaten your lie that Bini empire extended to modern day Benin Republic?

Or do you still wanna stick to your lie to feed your ego in public?

erunz:


The first name of the Benin Empire, since its creation some time in the first millenium (i.e, before year 1000) CE, was Igodomigodo, as called by its own inhabitants. Their ruler was called Ogiso...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire

PROUDLY EDO

Congratulations Edo man, till date, you are being ruled by the descendants of a banished 'Bini man.'

USA was first inhabited by red Indians before some British migrated to USA. Now America belongs to all.

adsonstone:


There are no lies here.

Prince Ekaladerhan was banished from Bini, banishment then, entails total disconnection from the region. Once a person is banished then in bini, he ceases to be a member of that community...this act is very similar to excommunication in the Roman Catholic Church.

History wise, Prince Ekaladerhan is not fit to be called a bini man...just as Martin Luther isn't fit to be regarded as a Roman Catholic Priest.

A Bini man that is banished is a Bini man.

If you disown your son, he would still be your son.

adsonstone:

You call the Aworis cowardly?

Your source says they are peace loving people, not cowards.

Your Yoruba Lagos Govt source said that to dignify Yorubas. They are cowards now...as they were then.