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| Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 8:40pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
What exactly is the meaning of salvation, in Christianity? I will present my understanding here. Jn. 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. Ro. 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. In Jn. 17:5, Jesus takes the position of Adam (mankind). Mankind had glory with God before the world began. When is "before the world began"? It is when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of God. The world began the day God kicked mankind out of His garden. Mankind became separated from God, hence the loss of glory. We all know why God kicked mankind out of His presence. Mankind collected a certain fruit from Satan and ate it. The fruit is Satan's word or knowledge (of good and evil). See Deut. 8:3, Mt. 4:4. Mankind believed this word and put it to practice. The practice initiated mankind into the kingdom of Satan. Before long, all mankind became Satan worshipers and the kingdom of Satan interacted very closely with mankind. Succeeding generation of mankind entered into separate covenants with spirit beings in the kingdom of Satan. All those covenants with Satan's kingdom form the ancestral covenants hanging over every human being. The covenants simply mean that these human beings are Satan's possession--Satan' slaves. Salvation is total freedom from Satan's slavery. And unless there is total freedom, a human being cannot fully belong to God;which means that fullness of glory cannot be restored. Ro. 6:16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey — whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by MuttleyLaff: 8:55pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
Kei144: Salvation IS NOT total freedom from Satan's slavery, but Redemption IS total freedom from Satan's slavery a redeemed human being can fully belong to God Jesus redeems us so we can have salvation In layman's terms, salvation is being saved from imminent destruction Salvation, simply, is getting protected from destruction or getting delivered from some extremely serious and not-good-at-all situation 2 Corinthians 6:2 For God says, "At just the right time, I heard you. On the day of salvation, I helped you." Indeed, the "right time" is now. Today is the day of salvation. |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by esere826: 9:07pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: Excellent I feel like giving you a bear hug |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by esere826: 9:09pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: please expand on this view of yours |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by esere826: 9:16pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
Kei144: This is part of what I think, ..a rough hypothesis perhaps After the fall of Adam, his family began to seek for wholeness/protection and scheme for it salvation to his kids was construed as the the desire for God to grant them good 'harvest' and protect the fruits of their labour Adam and his wife had also told their kids what happened in Eden they told them how things were very easy before they fell they also told them that God had said that a seed of theirs would defeat Satan and restore mankind to his lost glory Cain and Abel felt that they could be the seed that God was speaking about and so wanted to attract God to choose them this also meant salvation to them This lead them to making sacrifices to God After that Sacrifice recorded in the Torah, Cain was rejected while Abel was accepted <there is a logical gap here: was after the sacrifice the first time God spoke to them?> Cain was upset and jealous, so he killed Abel Everything, every essence of Abel was in agony and revolt. It could not believe that his hope for being the chosen one had being quashed by Cain hence God said, "the blood of your brother Abel cries out for vengeance" As men began to multiply, they also took with them this understanding of a time long gone when everything was perfect Great grand pa Adam and Eve were around for a long time to tell them the stories of Eden Each person or most people wanted Gods salvation for the short term and sometimes for the long term the short term salvation were for God to grant Eden like grace, success and protection to their labour and being the long term salvation aspiration was that either they or their lineage be the chosen one to birth the seed that will restore Eden ...tbc someday in the future |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by MuttleyLaff: 9:41pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
esere826:I love Kei144, and I love his zeal about God etc but it is his rhetoric and purple prose posts I cant stand You cant help or influence others that way, you only alienate or disinterest them with it It was Kei144 in relation to SALVATION who first posted the below: ...Mankind believed this word and put it to practice. The practice initiated mankind into the kingdom of Satan. Before long, all mankind became Satan worshipers and the kingdom of Satan interacted very closely with mankind. Succeeding generation of mankind entered into separate covenants with spirit beings in the kingdom of Satan. All those covenants with Satan's kingdom form the ancestral covenants hanging over every human being. The covenants simply mean that these human beings are Satan's possession--Satan' slaves. Salvation is total freedom from Satan's slavery. And unless there is total freedom, a human being cannot fully belong to God; which means that fullness of glory cannot be restored. https://www.nairaland.com/2389227/meaning-salvation#34905764 The meaning of salavation is quite simple but notice how Kei144 overcomplicates it with the above and its bolded |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by esere826: 9:51pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by MuttleyLaff: 11:02pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
esere826:I have bolded a few of your post For example #1 "they also told them that God had said that a seed of theirs would defeat Satan and restore mankind to his lost glory" #2 Cain #3 Abel #4 the long term salvation #5 chosen one to birth the seed that will restore Eden You obviously know the meaning behind the name Cain, and the name Abel Eve unwittingly named the second child, Abel, a brush-off name, unbeknownst that she is making a prophecy correctly stating what will happen and come to pass in the future She half got right everything about the first child and his name. Afterall, he is a man but he was not the man, not the seed promised nor the one she was to expect |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 7:01pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff:In Christianity, salvation means to exit all that Satan brought upon mankind through the eating of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. There are four major consequences of the fall of man. 1. Sin 2. Dieases (death) 3. Poverty 4. Curses Total slvation means freedom from ll these. |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 4:36pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Prerequisite for Salvation Mk. 16:15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Mk. 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptised will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Jesus said, "whoever believes and is baptized". The prerequisites for salvation therefore are believing that Jesus Christ redeemed us by his death on the cross and being baptized into Jesus Christ.Lord. Every promise of God is yes in Christ (2Co. 1:20) and the way to get into Christ is through baptism. Once a person is in Christ, it becomes easy to experience God's promise of salvation through the redemption that we have in Christ. Baptism in itself doesn't really save, but it puts a person on the pedestal to salvation. 1 Like |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by MuttleyLaff: 11:55am On Jul 03, 2015 |
Kei144:I see we've shifted from "total freedom" to "total salvation". OK ooo. Why weren't you this explicit before? |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 6:55pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
There is work in Salvation Ph. 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed — not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence — continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling The popular doctrine today says that any person who believes in Jesus Christ cannot sin, because s/he has automatically acquired the righteous nature of Jesus Christ. If you regard anything the person does to be sin, then something is wrong with you because the person is simply righteous. But when it comes to prosperity, the proponents of this kind of doctrine teach that you have to pay tithe and offering and sow seeds, if you want to prosper. So, salvation from poverty requires some work, but salvation from sin requires no work. Mt. 23:23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices — mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law — justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practised the latter, without neglecting the former. Mt. 23:24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. Mt. 23:25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Mt. 23:26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. Jesus says that we should first cleanse ourselves of sin, before any other salvation. We need to achieve salvation from sin before any other salvation. In fact, salvation from sin makes salvation from disease, poverty and curses to be very easy. If Jesus says that we should clean, then we can clean. |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 7:32pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
The principle of Cleansing Ph. 2:13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose. In order to be able to will and to act according to God's good purpose, God must be working in you. It is "God working in you" that is called "Grace". The big question is, who does God work in? He. 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. He. 10:1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming — not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. He. 10:2 If it could, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshippers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. He. 10:3 But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins, He. 10:4 because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Ja. 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. God works in those who come near to Him by faith. We can go near to God by the blood of Jesus Christ. And we can continuously remain in the presence of God by the blood of Jesus. Re. 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. Re. 12:11 They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. When Satan decided to tempt Adam through Eve, he knew that he was bringing upon us sin, disease, poverty and curses. Sin, disease, poverty and curses are the original attacks of Satan against us. Through the blood of Jesus, salvation and the power and the kingdom of God, and the authority of His Christ come into us. We easily overcome all that Satan brought against us. |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 7:50am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Getting rid of sin by the Blood of Jesus If you have been baptized into Jesus Christ, you have the authority to overcome sins in your life by the blood of Jesus and by the word of your testimony. Testimony about what? You testify about what Jesus Christ accomplished for us on the cross. 1Pe. 2:24 He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed. "The Lord Jesus Christ himself bore all the sins of mankind in his body on the cross of Calvary that I may bear no sin in my own body. In the mighty name of Jesus Christ, I overcome sins in my body by the blood of Jesus Christ. I wash away every sin from my body by the blood of Jesus Christ. Let the Holy Spirit of the Most High God put to death in me every misdeed of the flesh, every act of the sinful nature; I pray in the name of Jesus Christ." |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 8:07am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Getting rid of Sickness by the Blood of Jesus Mt. 8:17 This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah: “He took up our infirmities and carried our diseases.” [Isaiah 53:4] I heard my three year old son coughing badly and I immediately knew that he had caught acute flu. I called him to me and placed my hands on his back and his chest. Then I began to speak, even as he tried to move away from my hands. "The Lord Jesus Christ took up our infirmities and bore all our diseases in his body on the cross that we may bear them no longer. By his wounds we were healed. In the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I overcome flu and every other disease in this body by the blood of Jesus Christ. I flush every sickness out of this body by the blood of Jesus Christ. Let the Holy Spirit of the Most High put to death everything that afflicts this body with any form of sickness; I pray in the name of Jesus Christ." Thereafter, my son went about playing, without coughing again. Do you know any person suffering from an incurable disease? If you have been baptized into Jesus Christ, you can heal that person though the application of the therapy of the blood of Jesus. |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 8:24am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Getting rid of Poverty by the Blood of Jesus 2Co. 8:9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich. Poverty is inability to solve your problems; it doesn't mean lack of abundance of material possessions. If you can keep every member of your family always in good health even though you cannot afford to take them to hospital, you are rich. During his earthly ministry, Jesus had no money in his pocket, yet he was abundantly rich because there was no problem he could not solve. But God took away his power as he hung on the cross for our sins, and he suddenly became poor. "Even though the Lord Jesus Christ was rich, for our sakes he became poor on the cross and thereby nailed poverty to the cross that we may never become poor. By his wounds e were healed. In the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I overcome poverty in my life by the blood of Jesus Christ. I wash away from my life every obstacle to my becoming rich by the blood of Jesus Christ. Let the Holy Spirit of the Most High bring to me opportunities that will make me rich; I pray in the name of Jesus Christ." |
| Re: Meaning Of Salvation by Kei144(m): 8:39am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Overcoming Curses by the Blood of Jesus Ga. 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.” [Deut. 21:23] Ga. 3:14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. Curses include the effect of bad words spoken against a person by people that have authority over him, as well as the opposition by bad spirits due to words spoken in the past or due to evil covenants. When I pray against curses, I also include every problem and trouble that could come upon my life. All these problems and trouble are actually curses that came as a result of the fall of man. Problems and troubles are absent in heaven. The Lord Jesus Christ became a curse on the cross for our sakes. He nailed every curse that is due to us to the cross of Calvary so that we may live blessedly. By his wounds e were healed. In the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I overcome every curse upon my life, as well a every trouble and every problem in my life poverty in my life by the blood of Jesus Christ. I get rid of every trouble and problem in my life by the blood of Jesus Christ. Let the Holy Spirit of God keep away from me evil spirits, wicked people and trouble makers, as well as all their problems and troubles; I pray in the name of Jesus Christ." |
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