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A Deceptive Deity by malvisguy212: 9:42am On Jul 17, 2015
In the Bible we can read how. God cares for his prophets. He protects them from being deceived by their adversaries:

Psalms 105:14-15: “And God did not
allow any human to defraud them,
But on their account he reproved
kings, Saying: ‘Do not you men touch
my anointed ones, And to my
prophets do nothing bad.’”

In complete contrast, we find Allah doing the very opposite.He defrauds the
prophets by appointing evil men and
demons to lead them astray.

Surah 6:112: “So have We appointed
for every Prophet an enemy – devils
of men and Jinns; who inspire each
other with seductive, deceptive
speech which leads astray.”

Instead of protecting the prophets, why
should Allah personally appoint “devils
of men and Jinns” to seduce the
prophets to commit sin? Will the true God scheme with the demons to lead astray his own prophets?
Can you not see the immense
difference between Allah and Jehovah?
Who do you think behaves like a true
Creator? Who do you think behaves like a true God?

Surah 32:13: If We had so willed, We
could certainly have brought every
soul its true guidance: but the Word
from Me will come true, “I will fill Hell
with Jinns and men all together.” (Yusuf Ali)

How can you submit to a deity who
intentionally holds back guidance for
the sole pleasure of filling Hell with
mankind (and Jinns)?
How can you submit to a deity who is
more eager in fulfilling his quota of
people in Hell rather than guiding
them to their salvation?

Surah 5:41: “He whom Allah
doometh unto sin, thou (by thine
efforts) wilt avail him naught
against Allah. Those are they for
whom the WILL OF Allah IS THAT HE
CLANS NOT THEIR HEART . Theirs in
the world will be ignominy, and in the
Hereafter an awful doom.” (Pickthall)
Re: A Deceptive Deity by Nobody: 10:16am On Jul 17, 2015
No wonder mohamed's life was full of attrocities.

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Re: A Deceptive Deity by malvisguy212: 7:00pm On Jul 17, 2015
malvisguy212:
In the Bible we can read how. God cares for his prophets. He protects them from being deceived by their adversaries:

Psalms 105:14-15: “And God did not
allow any human to defraud them,
But on their account he reproved
kings, Saying: ‘Do not you men touch
my anointed ones, And to my
prophets do nothing bad.’”

In complete contrast, we find Allah doing the very opposite.He defrauds the
prophets by appointing evil men and
demons to lead them astray.

Surah 6:112: “So have We appointed
for every Prophet an enemy – devils
of men and Jinns; who inspire each
other with seductive, deceptive
speech which leads astray.”

Instead of protecting the prophets, why
should Allah personally appoint “devils
of men and Jinns” to seduce the
prophets to commit sin? Will the true God scheme with the demons to lead astray his own prophets?
Can you not see the immense
difference between Allah and Jehovah?
Who do you think behaves like a true
Creator? Who do you think behaves like a true God?

Surah 32:13: If We had so willed, We
could certainly have brought every
soul its true guidance: but the Word
from Me will come true, “I will fill Hell
with Jinns and men all together.” (Yusuf Ali)

How can you submit to a deity who
intentionally holds back guidance for
the sole pleasure of filling Hell with
mankind (and Jinns)?
How can you submit to a deity who is
more eager in fulfilling his quota of
people in Hell rather than guiding
them to their salvation?

Surah 5:41: “He whom Allah
doometh unto sin, thou (by thine
efforts) wilt avail him naught
against Allah. Those are they for
whom the WILL OF Allah IS THAT HE
CLANS NOT THEIR HEART . Theirs in
the world will be ignominy, and in the
Hereafter an awful doom.” (Pickthall)

Re: A Deceptive Deity by malvisguy212: 7:53am On Mar 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
In the Bible we can read how. God cares for his prophets. He protects them from being deceived by their adversaries:

Psalms 105:14-15: “And God did not
allow any human to defraud them,
But on their account he reproved
kings, Saying: ‘Do not you men touch
my anointed ones, And to my
prophets do nothing bad.’”

In complete contrast, we find Allah doing the very opposite.He defrauds the
prophets by appointing evil men and
demons to lead them astray.

Surah 6:112: “So have We appointed
for every Prophet an enemy – devils
of men and Jinns; who inspire each
other with seductive, deceptive
speech which leads astray.”

Instead of protecting the prophets, why
should Allah personally appoint “devils
of men and Jinns” to seduce the
prophets to commit sin? Will the true God scheme with the demons to lead astray his own prophets?
Can you not see the immense
difference between Allah and Jehovah?
Who do you think behaves like a true
Creator? Who do you think behaves like a true God?

Surah 32:13: If We had so willed, We
could certainly have brought every
soul its true guidance: but the Word
from Me will come true, “I will fill Hell
with Jinns and men all together.” (Yusuf Ali)

How can you submit to a deity who
intentionally holds back guidance for
the sole pleasure of filling Hell with
mankind (and Jinns)?
How can you submit to a deity who is
more eager in fulfilling his quota of
people in Hell rather than guiding
them to their salvation?

Surah 5:41: “He whom Allah
doometh unto sin, thou (by thine
efforts) wilt avail him naught
against Allah. Those are they for
whom the WILL OF Allah IS THAT HE
CLANS NOT THEIR HEART . Theirs in
the world will be ignominy, and in the
Hereafter an awful doom.” (Pickthall)

A
Re: A Deceptive Deity by mustymatic(m): 12:31pm On Mar 11, 2016
Re: A Deceptive Deity by malvisguy212: 4:11pm On Mar 11, 2016
mustymatic:

BB cool
now that you have read the thread, what do you have to say about allah ? Who do you think is the true God?
Re: A Deceptive Deity by Zoharariel(m): 4:21pm On Mar 11, 2016
1.) Proverbs 12:22 says: Lying lips are abomination to the Lord.

But in 1 Samuel 16:1-4, God commanded Samuel:

Fill thine horn with oil, and go, I will send thee to Jesse the Bethlehemite: for I have provided me a king among his sons. And Samuel said, How can I go? if Saul hear it, he will kill me. And the Lord said, Take an heifer with thee, and say, I am come to sacrifice to the Lord. And Samuel did that which the Lord spake, and came to Bethlehem.

Obviously God commanded Samuel to lie, as he was sent to find a king and not to sacrifice to the Lord.

If this is not fraud, then I wonder what it is. grin

2.) The book of Exodus 33:20 reports God saying to Moses: Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

1 Timothy 6:16 also says: Whom no man hath seen, nor can see.

But we read a different story in Exodus 24:9-11:

Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

The Prophet Moses and Aaron and the seventy elders of the Israelites not only saw God with their eyes but also had a feast with him.

Now, juxtapose the text above with the summerian text below and tell me the difference. grin

2109 B.C. - Enlil (Yahweh) ordered Moses up Mt. Sinai, landed his rocket on the mount and, with an amplifier, told, the Israelites to reject all other Nibiran gods, spend every seventh day worshiping him, subjugate women and kids, refrain from murder, adultery, theft and false witness. They must not, he demanded, crave others’ homes, wives, slaves and property. He gave Moses stone tablets he’d inscribed with his commandments and showed him how to build a temple and anArk of the Covenant for the tablets. Above the tablet drawer in the Ark, Moses must build a Talk-To-Enlil communicator (sporting two gold cherubs). Through the Ark, they could message Enlil, pose their question, and get his “Yes” or “No” answers.

My point is; religion is a gigantic fraud. Stop being deceived by the Bible & the Quran - Allah is the same entity as Yahweh, and he died a very long time ago!

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Re: A Deceptive Deity by mustymatic(m): 5:51pm On Mar 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
now that you have read the thread, what do you have to say about allah ? Who do you think is the true God?
After putting up these rubbish, I definitely know (not think ) that Allah is the one true God...the God of Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus, Abraham, Muhammad peace be upon them all. But seriously ur post is pointless especially the enemy part grin
Re: A Deceptive Deity by malvisguy212: 8:23pm On Mar 11, 2016
mustymatic:

After putting up these rubbish, I definitely know (not think ) that Allah is the one true God...the God of Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus, Abraham, Muhammad peace be upon them all. But seriously ur post is pointless especially the enemy part grin
so answer this question:

Surah 6:112: “So have We appointed
for every Prophet an enemy – devils
of men and Jinns; who inspire each
other with seductive, deceptive
speech which leads astray.”

Instead of protecting the prophets, why
should Allah personally appoint “devils
of men and Jinns” to seduce the
prophets to commit sin?
Re: A Deceptive Deity by malvisguy212: 8:39pm On Mar 11, 2016
Zoharariel:
1.) Proverbs 12:22 says: Lying lips are abomination to the Lord.

But in 1 Samuel 16:1-4, God commanded Samuel:

Fill thine horn with oil, and go, I will send thee to Jesse the Bethlehemite: for I have provided me a king among his sons. And Samuel said, How can I go? if Saul hear it, he will kill me. And the Lord said, Take an heifer with thee, and say, I am come to sacrifice to the Lord. And Samuel did that which the Lord spake, and came to Bethlehem.

Obviously God commanded Samuel to lie, as he was sent to find a king and not to sacrifice to the Lord.

If this is not fraud, then I wonder what it is. grin

2.) The book of Exodus 33:20 reports God saying to Moses: Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

1 Timothy 6:16 also says: Whom no man hath seen, nor can see.

But we read a different story in Exodus 24:9-11:

Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

The Prophet Moses and Aaron and the seventy elders of the Israelites not only saw God with their eyes but also had a feast with him.

Now, juxtapose the text above with the summerian text below and tell me the difference. grin

2109 B.C. - Enlil (Yahweh) ordered Moses up Mt. Sinai, landed his rocket on the mount and, with an amplifier, told, the Israelites to reject all other Nibiran gods, spend every seventh day worshiping him, subjugate women and kids, refrain from murder, adultery, theft and false witness. They must not, he demanded, crave others’ homes, wives, slaves and property. He gave Moses stone tablets he’d inscribed with his commandments and showed him how to build a temple and anArk of the Covenant for the tablets. Above the tablet drawer in the Ark, Moses must build a Talk-To-Enlil communicator (sporting two gold cherubs). Through the Ark, they could message Enlil, pose their question, and get his “Yes” or “No” answers.

My point is; religion is a gigantic fraud. Stop being deceived by the Bible & the Quran - Allah is the same entity as Yahweh, and he died a very long time ago!
Ecclesiastes 3:7 states, "There is "a time to keep silence, and a time to speak." This is a very relevant verse, especially in times of war. God, to protect Samuel's life, told Samuel not to tell
"each and every" reason for his visit. Samuel
was there for other reasons that are not
specifically in the text. Samuel did not tell a lie.
He did come in peace, which addressed the only question asked. He answered it truthfully. If Samuel had been asked for every reason of his
visit and everything he intended to do on his
visit, only then would he had been accountable
for telling every reason, etc. But he wasn't
asked for every reason, and God, being
omniscient, knew he would not be. So God gave
Samuel the truth which he was to speak before
the question was ever on the lips of the elders.
Samuel repeated the truth of God.

Moses did NOT see God, moses only saw God glory.
Re: A Deceptive Deity by mustymatic(m): 11:00pm On Mar 12, 2016
malvisguy212:
so answer this question:

Surah 6:112: “So have We appointed
for every Prophet an enemy – devils
of men and Jinns; who inspire each
other with seductive, deceptive
speech which leads astray.”

Instead of protecting the prophets, why
should Allah personally appoint “devils
of men and Jinns” to seduce the
prophets to commit sin?
How did Adam n Eve got out of the garden according to your Bible? How did Jesus got crucified? It is to test em Reason
Re: A Deceptive Deity by Zoharariel(m): 6:44pm On Mar 13, 2016
malvisguy212:


Moses did NOT see God, moses only saw God glory.

If your god has a glory, then as a child of god, created in the form & image of that god - then you too must possess a glory.

I wish I could beat sense back into your head, but first, how can I see or meet your glory? grin

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