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malvisguy212:
JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY PROPHET
WHO IS CALLED THE “WORD OF GOD”

Surah 3:45: Behold! The angels said:
“O Mary! Allah giveth Thee glad
tidings of a Word from Him: his
name will be Christ Jesus. The son
of Mary, held in honor in this world
and the Hereafter and of (the
company of) those nearest to
Allah;” (Yusuf Ali)

Surah 4:171: “Christ Jesus the son of
Mary was (no more than) an apostle
of God, and His Word, which he
bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit
proceeding from him: so believe in
God and His apostles.” (Yusuf Ali)

In Surah 4:171, Jesus is called, “His
Word.” And in Surah 3:45 the Qur’an
states that Allah gave Mary a glad tidings “of a Word from Him.” In the original Arabic, the expression used here is “kalimatim-minhu.” It means kalmia (word), min (from), hu (him). It is of vital importance for Muslims to note that Jesus is the only Prophet who ever lived, who is called a Word from God.

Centuries before the Qur’an came into
existence, this same title was given to
Jesus in the Bible:

John 1:14: “And the Word became
flesh and made is dwelling among
us. We have seen his glory, the glory
of the one and only Son who came
from the father, and he was full of
undeserved kindness and truth.”

Revelation 19:13: “…the name by
which he is called is the Word of
God.”

But why is Jesus called the “Word of
God”? In view of the fact that the Qur’an
attributes this title to Jesus without
explanation, it is in the Bible that we find the ultimate meaning of this term. He is designated as such not only during his life here on earth but also during his pre- human spirit existence in heaven.

malvisguy212:
Adam was created without the agency of
a human father or mother because, as
the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents. Such an act of
creation was necessary at the beginning
of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of
procreation had long been in existence.
Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this miraculous conception – a relationship that is shared by no other prophet. The birth of no other prophet has been anything as remotely close as the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ.

To deny that God does anything without
a purpose behind it amounts to a denial
of God himself. ( Surah 38:27) In the
Qur’an, it is the very absence of such a
clearly defined purpose in the unique
conception of Jesus, which perplexes the seeker of truth as to the meaning behind this miraculous birth.

guru1234:
WHAT ABOUT KING MECHISEDEK?....HE HAS NO BEGINING, NO GENEOLOGY, NO END OF DAYZ, SO ACCORDING TO UR ARGUMENT IS HE GREATER THAN JESUS?

malvisguy212:
the bible never give much details about him.

guru1234:
THE BIBLE IS CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT HE HAS NO BEGINING NO GENEOLOGY AND NO END OF DAYZ....I BELIEVE THAT IS SELF EXPLANATORY.....JUST WITH UR RATIONALE HE HIS A GREATER god THAN JESUS

guru1234:
THE BIBLE IS CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT HE HAS NO BEGINING NO GENEOLOGY AND NO END OF DAYZ....I BELIEVE THAT IS SELF EXPLANATORY.....JUST WITH UR RATIONALE HE HIS A GREATER god THAN JESUS

malvisguy212:
he has no beginning and no genealogy,let us review the book of genesis again:
"And Melchizedek king of Salem
brought out bread and wine; HE WAS A PRIEST OF GOD Most High. And he
[Melchizedek] blessed him [Abraham]
and said, 'Blessed be Abram by God
Most High, maker of heaven and
earth; and blessed be God Most High,
who has delivered your enemies into
your hand!' And Abram gave him
[Melchizedek] a tenth of everything"
that is, a tithe of all, for a tithe means
a tenth (Genesis 14:18-20, RSV).

You see, he was a priest and king of Salem also known as "Jerusalem" means he was not God, many bible interpretation belief he was Jesus christ.
Are you a muslim? What do you say about the op?

Confirmer:
God bless you for this. The op is only copying and pasting. Get a Quran and read.

Confirmer:
It's not about being God but about his miraculous existence far outweighs that of Jesus according to your bible.

malvisguy212:
he has no beginning and no genealogy,let us review the book of genesis again:
"And Melchizedek king of Salem
brought out bread and wine; HE WAS A PRIEST OF GOD Most High. And he
[Melchizedek] blessed him [Abraham]
and said, 'Blessed be Abram by God
Most High, maker of heaven and
earth; and blessed be God Most High,
who has delivered your enemies into
your hand!' And Abram gave him
[Melchizedek] a tenth of everything"
that is, a tithe of all, for a tithe means
a tenth (Genesis 14:18-20, RSV).

You see, he was a priest and king of Salem also known as "Jerusalem" means he was not God, many bible interpretation belief he was Jesus christ.
Are you a muslim? What do you say about the op?

malvisguy212:
bible say he is a priest of God. And on the other hand, bible say Jesus shere the glory with God BEFORE time began;

John 17:5
And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence with the glory I had with you
before the world began.

No prophet ever made this claim.

guru1234:
He cannot be jesus christ because he has no geneology and jesus do have geneology...even the bible listed his geneology in two narrations even though they are quite contradicting.....PEACE OUT

Confirmer:
So Melchizedek met with Abraham before the "world began"(according to the previous verse quoted where he blessed Abraham). Bible in its self is self contradictory.

malvisguy212:
did I conclude, he is Jesus ? The claims made by Jesus alone is more than enough. And geanology of Jesus is not contradicting, matthew trace his legal line and Luke trace his biological line. Shallom.

guru1234:
VERIFY FOR URSEF AND DONT BE TOO DEFENSIVE OTHERWISE U WONT SEE THE TRUTH UR SEARCHING FOR.

malvisguy212:
what are you saying here?

malvisguy212:
he has no beginning and no genealogy,let us review the book of genesis again:
"And Melchizedek king of Salem
brought out bread and wine; HE WAS A PRIEST OF GOD Most High. And he
[Melchizedek] blessed him [Abraham]
and said, 'Blessed be Abram by God
Most High, maker of heaven and
earth; and blessed be God Most High,
who has delivered your enemies into
your hand!' And Abram gave him
[Melchizedek] a tenth of everything"
that is, a tithe of all, for a tithe means
a tenth (Genesis 14:18-20, RSV).
You see, he was a priest and king of Salem also known as "Jerusalem" means he was not God, many bible interpretation belief he was Jesus christ.
Are you a muslim? What do you say about the op?

malvisguy212:
bible say he is a priest of God. And on the other hand, bible say Jesus shere the glory with God BEFORE time began;
John 17:5
And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence with the glory I had with you
before the world began.
No prophet ever made this claim.

malvisguy212:
THE QUR’AN STATES THAT GOD
CANNOT HAVE A SON WITHOUT A
CONSORT (WIFE).

Surah 6:101: “To Him is due the
primal origin of the heavens and the
earth: How can He have a son when
He hath no consort?” (Yusuf Ali)

Yet, the Qur’an itself records that Mary
had a son without a consort.

Surah 19:20-21: She said: How can I
have a son when no mortal hath
touched me, neither have I been
unchaste! He said: So (it will be). Thy
Lord saith: It is easy for Me. And (it
will be) that We may make of him a
revelation for mankind and a mercy
from Us, and it is a thing ordained.
(Pickthall)

QUESTION IS:
If Mary could produce a son without a
husband, why would it be impossible
for the Almighty Creator to produce a
son without a wife?
Why do you believe that the Almighty
God is incapable of doing something
that he himself empowered Mary to
do?
If Mary can beget a son without the
sexual involvement of a husband, why
cannot the Almighty God produce a son
without the sexual association of a wife
If Almighty God was able to create the
vast universe and every living being in
it out of nothing, why is he unable to
produce a son for himself without a
wife?
When you say that God cannot have a
son without a consort, is this not
limiting God’s almightiness?

And the Qur’an acknowledges:
Surah 39:4: “If Allah had willed to
choose a son, He could have chosen
what He would of that which He hath
created.”

Well, does not this Qur’anic verse prove
that God can and could have a son?
That he could have a son anytime he
wants?
And that He could simply create a son
for himself?Is this not exactly what the
Holy Bible teaches? ( Colossians 1:15)

guru1234:
VERIFY FOR URSEF AND DONT BE TOO DEFENSIVE OTHERWISE U WONT SEE THE TRUTH UR SEARCHING FOR.

Confirmer:
The words in bold shows he met Abraham.


Now the words in bold shows Jesus wasn't referring to melachia except and unless Abraham met with "Jesus" before the world began

bashbabe2:
.
Lend yourself a bit of brain,you are trying to interpret the quran and twist it to suit yourself.
You are claiming why did God create Jesus in such manner . Then ask why God created Adam. At least He was created from nothing,no father or mother. Maybe you need to start worshiping Adam too. Allah when He decides to do something He simply say be and it is.
The creation of the whole universe and heaven and earth, everything within it, is by Allah alone. Tell me if Allah can do that what would creating Jesus(as) in such a manner be such a biggy.and creation of Adam was superior. then Adam qualifies for such not Jesus, but subhanallah Allah doesn't begot a son and nothing is equal or comparable to HIM.

There is no where that state Jesus is the son of God in those verses. Continue to deceive yourself and your likes

malvisguy212:
he was a priest of God and did I conclude Melchizedek is Jesus christ? He meet Abraham yes, soo?

bashbabe2:
.
Lend yourself a bit of brain,you are trying to interpret the quran and twist it to suit yourself.
You are claiming why did God create Jesus in such manner . Then ask why God created Adam. At least He was created from nothing,no father or mother. Maybe you need to start worshiping Adam too. Allah when He decides to do something He simply say be and it is.
The creation of the whole universe and heaven and earth, everything within it, is by Allah alone. Tell me if Allah can do that what would creating Jesus(as) in such a manner be such a biggy.and creation of Adam was superior. then Adam qualifies for such not Jesus, but subhanallah Allah doesn't begot a son and nothing is equal or comparable to HIM.

There is no where that state Jesus is the son of God in those verses. Continue to deceive yourself and your likes

Confirmer:
So Jesus isn't Melchizedek and your inference is baseless. Melchizedek is greater than Jesus according to your bible.

malvisguy212:
Adam was created without the agency of
a human father or mother because, as
the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents.Such an act of
creation was necessary at the beginning
of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of
procreation had long been in existence.
Here we see God interrupting the course of nature,and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself
established, in order that Christ might
thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely
such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this miraculous conception – a relationship that is shared by no other prophet. The birth of no other prophet has been anything as remotely close as the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ.

Both the Qur’an and the Bible tell us very clearly that Jesus had no human father. We must therefore ask ourselves this vital question, “Since Jesus is addressed as a ‘son’ by the angel Gabriel both in the Qur’an (Surah 19:19) and in the Bible (Luke 1:35), whose son is he?” Is it Mary’s? In Surah 19:19, the angel Gabriel said to Mary: “I am only a
messenger of thy Lord, to announce to
thee the GIFT of a holy son .” Here, Gabriel refers to a son who was to be
given as a “gift” by God to Mary. Since
the Qur’an makes it very clear that the
son is a gift from God, it shows that Mary was only the recipient of that gift. She is not the source of that gift but God. The gift belongs to God. The gift was a son. Therefore, the son belongs to God which means the son was His or His
son. In other words, God’s son. This
testifies to the Gospel truth that Jesus is
the Son of God.

malvisguy212:
the bible say melchizedek is a priest of God but say Jesus is the son of God and it say, He is the image of the invicinble God, who is greater?

Confirmer:
If not having a father qualifies Jesus to be a son of God the Melchizedek shall be God of God. Since he has neither a father nor mother and not even a genealogy according to your bible.

malvisguy212:
Adam was created without the agency of
a human father or mother because, as
the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents.Such an act of
creation was necessary at the beginning
of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of
procreation had long been in existence.
Here we see God interrupting the course of nature,and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself
established, in order that Christ might
thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely
such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this miraculous conception – a relationship that is shared by no other prophet. The birth of no other prophet has been anything as remotely close as the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ.

Both the Qur’an and the Bible tell us very clearly that Jesus had no human father. We must therefore ask ourselves this vital question, “Since Jesus is addressed as a ‘son’ by the angel Gabriel both in the Qur’an (Surah 19:19) and in the Bible (Luke 1:35), whose son is he?” Is it Mary’s? In Surah 19:19, the angel Gabriel said to Mary: “I am only a
messenger of thy Lord, to announce to
thee the GIFT of a holy son .” Here, Gabriel refers to a son who was to be
given as a “gift” by God to Mary. Since
the Qur’an makes it very clear that the
son is a gift from God, it shows that Mary was only the recipient of that gift. She is not the source of that gift but God. The gift belongs to God. The gift was a son. Therefore, the son belongs to God which means the son was His or His
son. In other words, God’s son. This
testifies to the Gospel truth that Jesus is
the Son of God.

bashbabe2:
Note the highlighted the Verse says:

“[b]Had Allah willed [/b]to take an offspring [for Himself], [b]He could have chosen [/b]whom He willed out of those whom He created. But Glory is to Him! [He is above such things]. He is Allah, the One, the All-Subjugator.”

At any rate, the blessed Verse is saying that having offspring is either for assistance or for spiritual intimacy. Even reflection upon such impossible supposition does not necessitate having offspring since He could select one among His noble creatures, rather than an offspring, in order to attain to such a goal.
This is just English, Had Allah willed He could have. Meaning Allah did not end of story.

Nonetheless, He is One God Who is the eternal All-Subjugator of all things, Needless of the assistance of any entity. He is neither perturbed by anything hence His Needlessness for intimacy with anyone or anything, nor is he in need of progeny.

Consequently,

“Glory is to Him!”
He is above having real or adopted children.

malvisguy212:
who is Melchizedek? Is he God? Provide scriptural proof.

Confirmer:
If not having a father qualifies Jesus to be a son of God[/b]then [b]Melchizedek shall be God of God. Since he has neither a father nor mother and not even a genealogy according to your bible.