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bashbabe2:
Exactly a gift maybe check what the meaning of a gift is. But where does it say in those verses because you are trying to give the verse another meaning.it's clearly not there just according to you. Continue twisting the verse
You yourself know Adam is one of a kind, no other Prophets is similar to him not even Jesus
He's own creation is far superior so he should have a better chance to be called what you call Jesus

Confirmer:
The bolded words is just trying to let you see that Jesus wasn't begotten by God.

malvisguy212:
The Qur’an asks a question in Surah 6:101:
“How can He have a son when He
hath no consort?”

Observe carefully how the carnal and
physical traits of humans are attributed
to God in this verse. No consideration
whatsoever is given for the divine infinite nature of God. Just because men on earth cannot have sons unless they
cohabit with their wives, so the Qur’an
blasphemously concludes that God, too,
cannot have a son unless he cohabits
with a wife.

God Almighty was able to create the vast universe and every living being in it out of nothing, he is unable to produce a son for himself without a wife. If God could actually cause Mary to produce a son without a husband, why would it be impossible for him to similarly produce a son without a wife? And with the quranic
verse you quote, does this not mean "Allah ask a question" but later answer himself? He cannot have a son without a consort.

malvisguy212:
The Qur’an asks a question in Surah 6:101:
“How can He have a son when He
hath no consort?”

Observe carefully how the carnal and
physical traits of humans are attributed
to God in this verse. No consideration
whatsoever is given for the divine infinite nature of God. Just because men on earth cannot have sons unless they
cohabit with their wives, so the Qur’an
blasphemously concludes that God, too,
cannot have a son unless he cohabits
with a wife.

God Almighty was able to create the vast universe and every living being in it out of nothing, he is unable to produce a son for himself without a wife. If God could actually cause Mary to produce a son without a husband, why would it be impossible for him to similarly produce a son without a wife? And with the quranic verse you quote, does this not mean "Allah ask a question" but later answer himself? He cannot have a son without a consort.

Confirmer:
It isn't difficult for him. It only need "be" and it shall "be"and God would need no Mary to carry the baby.

malvisguy212:
adam was the first man, that's how it soppose to be. As a matter of fact, the quran indicate Adam sinned but say Jesus is sinless. How can a mortal walk the earth without committing a single sin? Doesn't this proved He is greater than All?

A gift, and Mary was only the collector, then Who was the father of Jesus? In what culture is a man adress by his mother name? If you don't know the father of Jesus, you do not NO the true God. Good night.

malvisguy212:
do you want to know who Jesus really is ? Read here. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians%201:15-23

malvisguy212:
adam was the first man, that's how it soppose to be. As a matter of fact, the quran indicate Adam sinned but say Jesus is sinless. How can a mortal walk the earth without committing a single sin? Doesn't this proved He is greater than All?

A gift, and Mary was only the collector, then Who was the father of Jesus? In what culture is a man adress by his mother name? If you don't know the father of Jesus, you do not NO the true God. Good night.

malvisguy212:
good, so actually God can have a son without a consort? Very God. Calling Jesus the son of God is not actually a bad thing.

bashbabe2:
Evidence of this. You just lie

bashbabe2:
Adam is the first man and you keep saying this is how it should be
So why making the case of Jesus peculiar. This is how it should be.remember what we have been trying to tell you. Allah only have to say be and it will be. Exactly why Jesus doesn't have a father that's how it's meant to be nothing special.

malvisguy212:
we no the reason why God created adam, to multiply the earth, what about Jesus?if Jesus is just an ordinary prophet, why will God Allowed him to born of a virgin when human are in existence?

guru1234:
Guy dont let start disregarding the miracles of other prophet of GOD by trying to compare one with another...why is melchisedek not having geneology at all? why did Elijah not die but raised up to GOD? why didnt jesus go to the grave yard and wake everyone thier as done by other prophet?, why didnt he divide the sea?, why is jesus not the first man created solely by GOD?, why did he have to die and beaten by disbelievers when other prophet can rain thunder and fire on them?, and finally why did he have to say "MY GOD MY GOD WHY I HAVE U FORSAKEN ME" as if he is weak in faith ranting like an unbeliever when the average believers and unbelievers would GLADLY die for thier course?........EVERYONE AMONG THE PROPHET WHERE GIVEN THIER SPECIFIC MIRACLES THAT SOOT THIER TIME AND PPLE.

malvisguy212:
the bible did not provide the geanology of Jesus does not mean he (melchisedek) did not have one, the oldest man in the bible, methusalah, who was he mother? The fact that the bible did not made mention of his mother name mean methusalah did not have a mother? What about Moses? Did the bible mention his geanology?

The quran adress Jesus by his mother name, in what culture is a man adress by his mother name?

guru1234:
guy wake up did the bible say jesus did not have geneology? rather the bible went ahead to attribute contradicting geneology to him, did the bible say moses did not have geneology or even methuselah? the answers are all NO....but the bible categorically say melchisedek have none, so your analogy is invalid....The quran address jesus by his mother name because he was born without male intervention....THE BIBLE AUTHOR JUST WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO PROVIDE A GENEOLOGY THAT IS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR JOSEPH and not JESUS

malvisguy212:
the bible is clear,melchisede is a priest to God , so not mentioning his geanology does not mean he doesent have, many bible scholar interpret him as Jesus some the mystery man all because he came from NO were. Your argument is lame , it is off point.

Jesus geanology is not contradicting, matthew trace his legal line and Luke trace his biological line, by legal right he inherited the throne of David and by biological right, He was the promised savior by God himself, meaning he is from God. Luke add some gentile nation and matthew add only the Jews. Luke to the world and matthew to the Jews.

guru1234:
The point has been made...continue contradicting ur bible when it say melchisedek has NO geneology and u continue ranting he might have. Well its left for u to either accept NO as NO or continue with ur illogical opinion.

malvisguy212:
the bible did not mention the mother of metusalah mean he did not have a mother?

malvisguy212:
the bible did not mention the mother of metusalah mean he did not have a mother?

malvisguy212:
we no the reason why God created adam, to multiply the earth, what about Jesus?if Jesus is just an ordinary prophet, why will God Allowed him to born of a virgin when human are in existence?

malvisguy212:
Islam, in no uncertain terms, denies the
Sonship of Jesus Christ. However, the
Qur’an provides numerous internal
evidences that testify to the Biblical truth that Jesus is indeed the Son of God. The testimonies regarding Jesus in the Qur’an itself clearly show that he is more than a prophet.

One of the most important points of
agreement between Islam and Christianity concerns the conception of
Jesus is the virgin birth.but the quran does not clearly state the reason of the virgin birth.

The Qur’an teaches that the virgin-birth
of Jesus was simply a manifestation of
God’s power>>>> Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So it will be. Allah createth what HE WIlL. If
he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it
only: BE! And it is.” (Pickthall)

The truth of the matter is that the virgin- birth of Jesus Christ was not a random manifestation of God’s creative power as implied in the Qur’an. While the fact that it was brought about by the power of God is without any doubt, however, this in itself does not explain its meaning or purpose. What necessity was there to give a new demonstration of this power? The Qur’an itself teaches that the mere fact that God could create men out of nothing is surely proof that God can raise them from the dead;

Surah 22:5: “O mankind! If ye have a
doubt about the Resurrection,
consider that We created you out of
dust…” (Yusuf Ali)

As such, Allah is saying that no proof of
the ultimate resurrection is needed for
the unbelievers since his initial act of
creation is sufficient for man to perceive
his creative powers. In other words, there no need for Allah to show his creative work as long as he can create man.

Why was the virgin-birth of Jesus a
necessity? Surely, God would not do such an unusual act without reason if it were unnecessary. He would cause the virgin- birth to take place only if it was utterly necessary to do so. Something must have required that Jesus be born in this way.The virgin-birth is an article of faith, which is repeatedly upheld in the Qur’an, and yet we find that there is no explanation for the miraculous birth. In the Qur’an we are assured that, it took place, but we are not told why. However, the answer is made clear in the Bible. It tells us that unlike all other prophets, Jesus is the unique Son of God. Thus, it is absolutely necessary that he be born of a virgin-woman if he comes in the likeness of men.

This is indeed what the angel told Mary
when he came to explain the miraculous conception:

Luke 1:32: “He will be great and will
be called the Son of the Most High.”

Luke 1:35: “Therefore the child to be
born will be called holy, the SON OF
GOD.”

In the Gospel, the virgin-birth is also
shown as a vital link in the out-working of God’s purpose for the salvation of
mankind. It was the very heart of God’s
divine purpose to redeem fallen
mankind who by their sinful nature was
subjected to futility. (See Romans 8:20).
Therefore, mankind’s salvation – your
salvation – is essentially linked to the
gaining of an accurate knowledge of the
divine purpose behind the miraculous
birth of Jesus Christ. Let us now look at
other evidences in the Qur’an that points to the Sonship of God

malvisguy212:
Adam was created without the agency of
a human father or mother because, as
the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents. Such an act of
creation was necessary at the beginning
of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of
procreation had long been in existence.
Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this miraculous conception – a relationship that is shared by no other prophet. The birth of no other prophet has been anything as remotely close as the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ.

To deny that God does anything without
a purpose behind it amounts to a denial
of God himself. ( Surah 38:27) In the
Qur’an, it is the very absence of such a
clearly defined purpose in the unique
conception of Jesus, which perplexes the seeker of truth as to the meaning behind this miraculous birth.

malvisguy212:
Adam was created without the agency of
a human father or mother because, as
the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents. Such an act of
creation was necessary at the beginning
of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of
procreation had long been in existence.
Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this miraculous conception – a relationship that is shared by no other prophet. The birth of no other prophet has been anything as remotely close as the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ.

To deny that God does anything without
a purpose behind it amounts to a denial
of God himself. ( Surah 38:27) In the
Qur’an, it is the very absence of such a
clearly defined purpose in the unique
conception of Jesus, which perplexes the seeker of truth as to the meaning behind this miraculous birth.

malvisguy212:
Islam, in no uncertain terms, denies the
Sonship of Jesus Christ. However, the
Qur’an provides numerous internal
evidences that testify to the Biblical truth that Jesus is indeed the Son of God. The testimonies regarding Jesus in the Qur’an itself clearly show that he is more than a prophet.

One of the most important points of
agreement between Islam and Christianity concerns the conception of
Jesus is the virgin birth.but the quran does not clearly state the reason of the virgin birth.

The Qur’an teaches that the virgin-birth
of Jesus was simply a manifestation of
God’s power>>>> Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So it will be. Allah createth what HE WIlL. If
he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it
only: BE! And it is.” (Pickthall)

The truth of the matter is that the virgin- birth of Jesus Christ was not a random manifestation of God’s creative power as implied in the Qur’an. While the fact that it was brought about by the power of God is without any doubt, however, this in itself does not explain its meaning or purpose. What necessity was there to give a new demonstration of this power? The Qur’an itself teaches that the mere fact that God could create men out of nothing is surely proof that God can raise them from the dead;

Surah 22:5: “O mankind! If ye have a
doubt about the Resurrection,
consider that We created you out of
dust…” (Yusuf Ali)

As such, Allah is saying that no proof of
the ultimate resurrection is needed for
the unbelievers since his initial act of
creation is sufficient for man to perceive
his creative powers. In other words, there no need for Allah to show his creative work as long as he can create man.

Why was the virgin-birth of Jesus a
necessity? Surely, God would not do such an unusual act without reason if it were unnecessary. He would cause the virgin- birth to take place only if it was utterly necessary to do so. Something must have required that Jesus be born in this way.The virgin-birth is an article of faith, which is repeatedly upheld in the Qur’an, and yet we find that there is no explanation for the miraculous birth. In the Qur’an we are assured that, it took place, but we are not told why. However, the answer is made clear in the Bible. It tells us that unlike all other prophets, Jesus is the unique Son of God. Thus, it is absolutely necessary that he be born of a virgin-woman if he comes in the likeness of men.

This is indeed what the angel told Mary
when he came to explain the miraculous conception:

Luke 1:32: “He will be great and will
be called the Son of the Most High.”

Luke 1:35: “Therefore the child to be
born will be called holy, the SON OF
GOD.”

In the Gospel, the virgin-birth is also
shown as a vital link in the out-working of God’s purpose for the salvation of
mankind. It was the very heart of God’s
divine purpose to redeem fallen
mankind who by their sinful nature was
subjected to futility. (See Romans 8:20).
Therefore, mankind’s salvation – your
salvation – is essentially linked to the
gaining of an accurate knowledge of the
divine purpose behind the miraculous
birth of Jesus Christ. Let us now look at
other evidences in the Qur’an that points to the Sonship of God

guru1234:
THE BIBLE IS CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT HE HAS NO BEGINING NO GENEOLOGY AND NO END OF DAYZ....I BELIEVE THAT IS SELF EXPLANATORY.....JUST WITH UR RATIONALE HE HIS A GREATER god THAN JESUS

malvisguy212:
the bible did not provide the geanology of Jesus does not mean he (melchisedek) did not have one, the oldest man in the bible, methusalah, who was he mother? The fact that the bible did not made mention of his mother name mean methusalah did not have a mother? What about Moses? Did the bible mention his geanology?

The quran adress Jesus by his mother name, in what culture is a man adress by his mother name?

Psalm351:
Hmmm..