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Isaacmacdon:
Wonderful... wat a piece... a blunt nd direct reply to d cravings of d human nature.. I stumbled on wat someone said in dis thread... "d foolishness of God z greater dan d wisdom of man".... Dis really hit me.. Dis reply was given to u by d holy one..d spirit of God.. Fast forward to something I discovered... ever wondered y Jesus was sent to die for us,y in dis present day there z no stand out human as d biblical nd ancient men of valour.. Jacob,Abraham,Moses,Joshua,Joseph,Isaac,Daniel,david..etc... D flesh z a driving force.. Satan foolishly killed Jesus not knowing it was destined to liberate us from d powers of d flesh... D crucifixion of Jesus was d day d flesh had less powers on its inhabitants... d holy spirit gives answers to dese questions asked on dis thread... I pray d person recognizes dat she has bn deceived by d devil nd d forces of d flesh... God z wonderful... d gospel z beautiful.. heaven z a place to be.. where d king lives... oh.. can't wait to get there.. Hell z indeed a place of sorrow.. God give us grace never to fall into it.. May God deliver us all... Amen.. peace to my brethrens... D city of gold awaits us all.. let's endeavor to get there..

naijaboiy:
[color=#1980BC]You say what? [/color]

epelumi42:
you are so on point. Thank you... God has given us the way out, if we thread that path we won't fall in hell. We need only follow his lead.

God bless you... Love!

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]What question? [/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Yes, I will agree that most times, homosexuality is a function of the environment. Media, peer pressure, abuse and all that.

But whether you believe it or not, some people were born that way.[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Yes, I will agree that most times, homosexuality is a function of the environment. Media, peer pressure, abuse and all that.

But whether you believe it or not, some people were born that way.[/color]

epelumi42:
you are so on point. Thank you... God has given us the way out, if we thread that path we won't fall in hell. We need only follow his lead.

God bless you... Love!

blublahd:
That makes two you are yet to answer.
Going by your posts I quoted, why do you believe God exist?
At one point you said, "who the devil really is".

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]If you want to say anything in relation to my opinion, you quote me directly.
Or are you scared to quote me?[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]I believe God exists, but I question his actions.

Yes, I wonder who the devil really is. Like I said, I doubt if he was just an angel. I believe there is something more to it.

The book of job stated, "And time was come when the sons of God presented themselves before Him 'And satan also came
Why?
I doubt sibling rivalry and fatherly preference stated with Jacob , Esua and their father.[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]I believe God exists, but I question his actions.

Yes, I wonder who the devil really is. Like I said, I doubt if he was just an angel. I believe there is something more to it.

The book of job stated, "And time was come when the sons of God presented themselves before Him 'And satan also came
Why?
I doubt sibling rivalry and fatherly preference stated with Jacob , Esua and their father.[/color]

naijaboiy:
[color=#1980BC]its not about me believing it or not.

What proof do you have that some people were born gay?[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Really? I doubt that. Someone who is merciful and is regarded as the most merciful won't allow his creation to suffer forever?
Just take yourself as an example. you a mere man who isn't half as merciful as God, imagine someone steals from you or does you wrong or goes against your laws, would you sentence that person to a life time of torment?
How much more someone who is termed as the most merciful doing it to his own creations?[/color]




[color=#000050]His instructions are straight. Believe in jesus, accept him as your Lord and personal savior, stay away from sin and you will go to heaven.

Like I said before, how would someone who is born and raised in a religion that's not christianity accept Jesus as his lord and personal savior? Someone just doesn't go against his religious training that has been ingrained in him since childhood just because someone comes to tell him that Jesus loves him and quotes some scriptures in the bible.
It doesn't work that way.
If a muslim comes to preach to you, how would you feel. Would you just drop you christian doctrines and follow them? Of course not.

And if we are going by the bibles principles, then this is injustice of the highest form, because some people are more privileged to be born into christian homes.
With this, it would be safe to say that we are not giving equal grounds, hence this process of judgment in wrong and unjust.[/color]

epelumi42:
Do you even know the gravity of going against God's instructions and why He chose hell as punishment?

Here, Im not going biblical with you... Indonesian law stipulates death penalty for drug trafficking, and they execute anyone caught. When there is a warning, there is no excuse. God said he's a jealous God, and yes, take a look at how he handled the children of Israel. 3000 fell in a day because they worshipped another god.

Here, there's no way to counter an argument on God except by a book that explains him best. We ll look at his dealings of the past and relate it with the present.

Did I not mention something about Abraham? Whatever religion you are born in, it is your faith in God that saves you... Abraham was not born after Jesus. Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Come on. Its not the religion, its the belief. The faith.

God is merciful, but says anyone who believes not will go to hell, so what if anyone disobeys? They chose it.

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Homosexuality is categorized as a forms of sexual deviation or Paraphilia.
sexual deviations are 'abnormal' forms of sexual gratification.

Now there are paraphilia's people are born with. Sexual deviations that they just came to realize that they was part of them as they grew up.
Some didn't even know such things existed, until they found that they inclined towards it.

Let me use Necrophilia for example. Necrophilia is a form of paraphilia that has to do with obtaining sexual gratification from the thoughts of or have sexual relation or intercourse with a corpse.
There have been cases of children who discovered that they were like that since they reached puberty.
There brains and hormones have been wired to not obtain any arousal whatsoever from the thought of having sex with a living breathing moving human.

Now, if as it has been proven that necrophilia, a form of paraphilia is natural, what makes homosexuality any different?[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]What way out? You are saying this because you grew up in a christian community and country.
Why didn't he give indians and arabs that 'same' way.[/color]

funlord:
Gay matters again? Wetin concern me if 1 nigga wants 2 insert his _cock into another mans shitehole or if 1 babe wants 2 munch on the carpet of another babe? It even frees up space 4 us that want 2 slam more honeys abeg!

epelumi42:
Do you even know the gravity of going against God's instructions and why He chose hell as punishment?

Here, Im not going biblical with you... Indonesian law stipulates death penalty for drug trafficking, and they execute anyone caught. When there is a warning, there is no excuse. God said he's a jealous God, and yes, take a look at how he handled the children of Israel. 3000 fell in a day because they worshipped another god.

Here, there's no way to counter an argument on God except by a book that explains him best. We ll look at his dealings of the past and relate it with the present.

Did I not mention something about Abraham? Whatever religion you are born in, it is your faith in God that saves you... Abraham was not born after Jesus. Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Come on. Its not the religion, its the belief. The faith.

God is merciful, but says anyone who believes not will go to hell, so what if anyone disobeys? They chose it.

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Homosexuality is categorized as a forms of sexual deviation or Paraphilia.
sexual deviations are 'abnormal' forms of sexual gratification.

Now there are paraphilia's people are born with. Sexual deviations that they just came to realize that they was part of them as they grew up.
Some didn't even know such things existed, until they found that they inclined towards it.

Let me use Necrophilia for example. Necrophilia is a form of paraphilia that has to do with obtaining sexual gratification from the thoughts of or have sexual relation or intercourse with a corpse.
There have been cases of children who discovered that they were like that since they reached puberty.
There brains and hormones have been wired to not obtain any arousal whatsoever from the thought of having sex with a living breathing moving human.

Now, if as it has been proven that necrophilia, a form of paraphilia is natural, what makes homosexuality any different?[/color]

naijaboiy:
[color=#1980BC]Going by your analysis,,it means these deformity is a natural mistake right?

And these deformities are seen as abnormal in the society,,therefore we condemn it.

So now my question is.

If we decide to grant human rights for people "supposedly" born gay,,what happens to those who are necrophilic in nature? Or the paedophiles.

Why are they different from the homosexuals?

Don't you think there are remedies that could change the natural set of these people? Rather than to give them a right to practice what nature abhors.

Is it not a partial treatment to those who also feel they were born to have sex with animals or those who have sex with dead corpses as in your example above?

Kindly explain.[/color]

blublahd:
How does that word relate with puni or the word 'plate' sef?

blublahd:
How does that word relate with puni or the word 'plate' sef?

ronald4lif:
Oh really?. So the ever merciful God would send his beloved children to an everlasting fire just for disobeying him?. Wow. Just a quick question, do you think your parents would hurt their child and torture them to an everlasting burner just for disobeying them?. Where's the love?.

ronald4lif:
Oh really?. So the ever merciful God would send his beloved children to an everlasting fire just for disobeying him?. Wow. Just a quick question, do you think your parents would hurt their child and torture them to an everlasting burner just for disobeying them?. Where's the love?.

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]First of all, I always like to divide sexual deviations into two categories. You have the harmful and the unharmful ones.

The ones I term harmful are those ones that involve thoughts or actions involving abuse, causing harm to or having sexual intercourse with a non consenting partner.
Paraphilia under this category include
Erotophonophilia, Necrophila(because it's an abuse of the dead), pedophilia and other forms of sexual sadism.

The other category involves actions involving a consenting partner. Homosexuality falls under the category as well as other forms of paraphilia like Agaraphobia- sexual attraction towards trees.
This forms of paraphilia can be legalized and acceptable under some constitutions, after all, no one is harmed in the process and both partners are okay with it.

There are hormonal and theraupetical medications that can help to reduce arousal to a minimum. These medications would help to reduce your general sexual desire.
But medications to completely cure paraphilia, that I have never heard of.[/color]

epelumi42:
You speak so confidently. Only a few have such natural aberrations and they did not choose it.

Are you saying all homosexuals are natural borns? Come on, so many gays chose to be gay on their volitions. Its stems from so many things, and an attempt to be foolishly different is one of them.

It is insane that God who didn't create a man for Adam will intend gays. It is biblically erroneous. Biologically, it is not right. Socially, we consider it unacceptable. Even Paul warned against it in the bible, so what are you talking about?

Stop being the devil's advocate here. Those behind the gay law rulings are not even gay. Even your mind directs you the same sex, banish it or seek help. It is their fault that they chose to wallow in their misery.

epelumi42:
The love, is that he does not wish that they end up in hell. 1 timothy 2:3-4.

Their sin is that they choose not to accept God. How does that make them his son.

The bible says in John 1:12. For as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.

Check John 3:36 as well.

Stop mentioning the merciful God thing.

sinaj:
I jux pray dat weneva it start raining fire, it shud start from dere

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Like I said when I quoted Naijaboy earlier, homosexuality most times is a function of the environment, but some times, homosexuals are born that way.

God didn't intend gays you say? But the same god intended even worse occurrences.
God created Adam with two legs and two hands. But you still see people giving birth to children with physical defects.

He created Adam with a stable mental well being yet, people still give birth to mentally unsound and genetically deficient children.

I am not an advocate for homosexuality. I am just of the believe that some times, people are born gay.[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]First of all, I always like to divide sexual deviations into two categories. You have the harmful and the unharmful ones.

The ones I term harmful are those ones that involve thoughts or actions involving abuse, causing harm to or having sexual intercourse with a non consenting partner.
Paraphilia under this category include
Erotophonophilia, Necrophila(because it's an abuse of the dead), pedophilia and other forms of sexual sadism.

The other category involves actions involving a consenting partner. Homosexuality falls under the category as well as other forms of paraphilia like Agaraphobia- sexual attraction towards trees.
This forms of paraphilia can be legalized and acceptable under some constitutions, after all, no one is harmed in the process and both partners are okay with it.

There are hormonal and theraupetical medications that can help to reduce arousal to a minimum. These medications would help to reduce your general sexual desire.
But medications to completely cure paraphilia, that I have never heard of.[/color]