teambuck2u:


I want to eat ifokore, you're bringing me yam for dundun. I that my fault? Won't I assess the product before making an informed decision to purchase or not?

What are you on about? I didn't bring nothing to you. I was passing jejely and you decided to follow, talked and we realised, my yam's not the kind you can afford, how is that my fault?

The product's not the problem, you just can't afford it.

coogar:

pray tell - what separates boys from the men?
how do you intend to convince a non-believer of the bible? you have to speak the language he understands & your yardstick must cater to all humans who intend to get married. the bible is not your leading step, i am afraid.
that's because God expects the woman He gave 5 sensory organs to use her common sense to choose the most intelligent candidate in her long list of suitors. he should love her wholeheartedly & she should submit to him.

If a non believer doesn't get you, how can you speak his own language ? When you are a believer ?

freecocoa:
What are you on about? I didn't bring nothing to you. I was passing jejely and you decided to follow, talked and we realised, my yam's not the kind you can afford, how is that my fault?

The product's not the problem, you just can't afford it.

Haba, sista. I called, you answered. I say I no buy again, na fight?

My dear, I already alluded to the fact that I don't argue with non believers, because we share contrary views, however, I did state that those non believers must have some sort of yardstick to govern themselves, I am not to speak on their behalf.

teambuck2u:


Haba, sista. I called, you answered. I say I no buy again, na fight?

You no well.

No be fight, no buy as that one no be problem, but no talk say the yam not good. That's all.

PreciousBro:


If a non believer doesn't get you, how can you speak his own language ? When you are a believer ?

you be like him, no?
to catch a monkey, better be prepared to become an ape!

even christ wined & dined with unbelievers - something the pharisees particularly felt nauseous about.

freecocoa:
You no well.

No be fight, no buy as that one no be problem, but no talk say the yam not good. That's all.

Oya come. Na play I dey. I go buy. Siddon here first.

teambuck2u:


Oya come. Na play I dey. I go buy. Siddon here first.

I don tell you say you no go fit pay, I no dey sell give you.

coogar:


pray tell - what separates boys from the men?



how do you intend to convince a non-believer of the bible? you have to speak the language he understands & your yardstick must cater to all humans who intend to get married. the bible is not your leading step, i am afraid.



that's because God expects the woman He gave 5 sensory organs to use her common sense to choose the most intelligent candidate in her long list of suitors. he should love her wholeheartedly & she should submit to him.




no one disputes the above.....
the point is, such smart women should aim & marry smarter men. they should not marry down or aim below their level. it will be extremely hard for them to submit to a less-intelligent husband.




age is not necessarily intelligence.
i have seen old women with the emotional maturity of a toothpaste. i have seen young women who are actually super-intelligent.

if a woman marries a man younger than her - desperation must have led her to it. sit her down, ask her if marrying a younger man has always been her dream, she would tell you "hell no".

even if she does, she must make sure the younger man is still more intelligent than her. it would help her a lot in submitting to him. if she's older & she's more intelligent than him, how the heck would she be able to submit to him?

You still don't seem to get my own point, being that, if you agree with me that women should marry more intelligent men so they can easily submit to him , are you not in turn agreeing that, women have to still submit to their men but intelligence (which I keep telling you shouldn't be the yardstick) has to be the propelling boost for submission ?

In a case where the woman is more intelligent, that means ,the man has to do the submitting ?

cococandy:
This thread of submission na nairaland talk.

Nobody in real life will say she submits totally to her husband.
Story.

It's unreal

Why? Because even your own kids don't submit all the time. They may grudgingly do as you command but they show their own free will as little as they are.

Even loving couples fight and make up. If all it takes is submission to make the marriage work, why were they even fighting to start with? The lady should have been willing from the beginning to do anything the man says without question because that's the true way of defining total submission.

Me I refuse the ones I don't agree with (sometimes). We will always reach a compromise that we are both happy with. That's for sure.

I'd imagine that's how most people are too.
Even the nairaland guys are submissive. Don't mind them

The bolded says it all.

freecocoa:
I don tell you say you no go fit pay, I no dey sell give you.

Na small pikin eyes you dey use . Nwanyi, come nearer first. Put your hand inside my pocket ....What is that you feel?

PreciousBro:

You still don't seem to get my own point, being that, if you agree with me that women should marry more intelligent men so they can easily submit to him , are you not in turn agreeing that, women have to still submit to their men but intelligence (which I keep telling you shouldn't be the yardstick) has to be the propelling boost for submission ?

where did i say women shouldn't submit?
i am the staunchest disciple of submission. go to the previous pages and see my early rejoinders. i am a fan of submission - why shouldn't a woman submit to her hubby? who chose him for her? if she's not ready to submit, she has no business in marriage!

In a case where the woman is more intelligent, that means ,the man has to do the submitting ?

in a case where the woman is more intelligent; the marriage is doomed! i said that earlier. the man's ego would always get in the way even when he knows she's more intelligent. this is why i said a woman should never marry a less-intelligent partner.

teambuck2u:


Na small pikin eyes you dey use . Nwanyi, come nearer first. Put your hand inside my pocket ....What is that you feel?

Abeg leave me, I no want, carry dey go.

Coogar, if I get you well, what you keep saying is intelligence, a yardstick for nothing but individualism and hence cant be the force of submission to her husband.

This is sad, if intelligence is the whole and all, that means the headship is dependent on the said intelligence.

freecocoa:
Abeg leave me, I no want, carry dey go.

I want to buy the whole basin.

PreciousBro:
Coogar, if I get you well, what you keep saying is intelligence, a yardstick for nothing but individualism and hence cant be the force of submission to her husband.

This is sad, if intelligence is the whole and all, that means the headship is dependent on the said intelligence.

of course.....
mention one institution or kingdom where the dullest individual in that institution was made the head.

coogar:


where did i say women shouldn't submit?
i am the staunchest disciple of submission. go to the previous pages and see my early rejoinders. i am a fan of submission - why shouldn't a woman submit to her hubby? who chose him for her? if she's not ready to submit, she has no business in marriage!



in a case where the woman is more intelligent; the marriage is doomed! i said that earlier. the man's ego would always get in the way even when he knows she's more intelligent. this is why i said a woman should never marry a less-intelligent partner.

Then I don't think we need to argue any further, because all this intelligence talk only boils down to the hurt it does to her ego which shouldn't be the man's business ,if she was dumb enough to marry a dumb man.

coogar:


of course.....
mention one institution or kingdom where the dullest individual in that institution was made the head.

Institution ?..... Marriage !

That's where aa man can still be head even when he has the IQ of a sick house fly

FrancisTony:

That word exists but it can never be fully applied.
That someone is the head is understandable but submitting isn't feasible even though some women would claim they submit.
You can't claim you submit while taking some decisions by yourself.
Only kids(I mean virtuous ones) can submit where whatever mum and dad says is final.
Or slave, where what the master says is final.
Respect should replace the word "submission" because only a woman that's parasitic in nature can be submissive.

The bolded is so true. Reminds me of one of my friends who claims to submit to her husband. Yet when he wanted them to move back to Nigeria, she vehemently refused. When they wanted to build a house, the husband wanted it to be in the village but she refused and said it should be built in a city near the village. These are the two instances of the two big decision I know and on both occasions, she had a say and they still live in the UK and are currently building in a city. So you can tell for yourself whose decision they took. To my darling friend, she is submissive. If I go with her definition of submission. I would be much more submissive than her . I have since concluded that it is one of those things people do as the please and not as they say.

teambuck2u:


I want to buy the whole basin.

Person don already buy am, nothing dey again.

PreciousBro:


Institution ?..... Marriage !

That's where aa man can still be head even when he has the IQ of a sick house fly

and you can bet that the woman he married even possess a lower IQ......perhaps that of a kwashiokored pubic louse. nothing pleases women more than a super-intelligent partner.

women get orgäsms for intelligence, leadership skills, authority, etc. why do you think most nigerian women would gladly sleep with their pastors even when they are married?

freecocoa:
Person don already buy am, nothing dey again.

Buy wetin? Wetin be dat tin wey shoot out like bazooka for dia? Nne, bia ka m gote iji, biko.

The English language is very clear on what submission/being submissive is. We should not add jara into it that the wife can have a say etc. That is no more submission o. You people better call it something else and stop deceiving yourselves.

coogar:


and you can bet that the woman he married even possess a lower IQ......perhaps that of a kwashiokored pubic louse. nothing pleases women more than a super-intelligent partner.

women get orgäsms for intelligence, leadership skills, authority, etc. why do you think most nigerian women would gladly sleep with their pastors even when they are married?

LoL

Well, we can always agree to disagree, but i maintain my standpoint ,which is, intelligence isn't the whole criterion for submission. A more logical explanation would have been on the primordial existence of man over women,hence the presiding advantage, that in itself doesn't speak of individual intelligence ,except you wanna say the intelligence lie in the existence (then we can conclude that men are smarter) you and I know that isn't true

teambuck2u:


Buy wetin? Wetin be dat tin wey shoot out like bazooka for dia? Nne, bia ka m gote iji, biko.

Rapu'm aka jor.

Naira land ladies are quick to shout slavery if you ask them to submit to the authority of their husband but they submit everyday to the authority of their bosses in the office! Many will go out of their way to please their bosses, a thing they can never do for their husbands. There is a growing satanic programme to derail the authority of men in the homes.
Submission has to be total or it is entirely useless.
Just like @ cougar said, do not marry any man you cannot bow to and submit to.

Stillfire:
The English language is very clear on what submission/being submissive is. We should not add jara into it that the wife can have a say etc. That is no more submission o. You people better call it something else and stop deceiving yourselves.

Thank you for this input

PreciousBro:


LoL

Well, we can always agree to disagree, but i maintain my standpoint ,which is, intelligence isn't the whole criterion for submission. A more logical explanation would have been on the primordial existence of man over women,hence the presiding advantage, that in itself doesn't speak of individual intelligence ,except you wanna say the intelligence lie in the existence (then we can conclude that men are smarter) you and I know that isn't true

and who says men aren't smarter overall? of course, the smartest person in this world would be a man - that does not mean you will not find hundreds of millions of women that are smarter than men.

the primordial existence also backs the man to be the smarter being. God said that much when He cursed eve. He said because eve allowed herself to be deceived by a stranger(serpent), her love would always be for her husband and he shall rule over her.

God was convinced the serpent would never have been able to deceive adam. adam had spent a considerable length of time alone before eve was made & no serpent bothered him. why did the devil choose eve? because the devil was sure the woman is intellectually vulnerable.

case closed!

We all know that being submissive is in the context of marital institution, and that means Man has the authority over his wife"

This is simple na lol

Why are we fighting.

freecocoa:
Rapu'm aka jor.

Mbanu. Ka m gote the whole farm sef

PreciousBro:
We all know that being submissive is in the context of marital institution, and that means Man has the authority over his wife"

This is simple na lol

Why are we fighting.

that is if we assume the wife chose carefully to marry an intelligent husband. if he's a dullard, she would not submit to him.

@Coogar, you say women argue their points with 'my intuition told me, bla bla.' What about men nko that argue with the line 'I'm the man/head, so he feels he's making sense' without providing any cogent reasons for his decisions? You know how our parents argue with the line 'I am your mother/father, don't argue with me' nonsense. Most people do stuff like that when they know they are losing an argument.