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Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by Nobody: 5:57pm On Jul 05, 2015
johnydon22:
The funny thing is; Christians tag atheist hell bound but yet they themselves still fear still unsure if they are going to hell or not grin


A god capable of roasting some people forever in fire without wincing (even tho they did not ask to be created in the first place) sounds more sadistic, barbaric and evil than an supervillain fiction i have ever read.
what about galactus? He eats planets to survive.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 5:59pm On Jul 05, 2015
Brown47:


this is what i was trying to explain to you. Jesus is a supernatural being with powers thats why he was able to live a holy life like you said.
Me being a normal human how do you expect me to live in his exact footprints. Are yot trying to tell me i can live like a God?
Wat abt enoch. Wat abt d 12 disciples
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 6:02pm On Jul 05, 2015
theAtheist101:

Is it the same guy that couldn't save himself?
Wow..u must be d guy at his left.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by Brown47: 6:05pm On Jul 05, 2015
STEVENcrack:
Wat abt enoch. Wat abt d 12 disciples
do you mean they live like Jesus(GOD) witout sining
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jul 05, 2015
STEVENcrack:

Wow..u must be d guy at his left.

No, I am the guy he used to pray to.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 9:05pm On Jul 05, 2015
theAtheist101:

No, I am the guy he used to pray to.
But ur moniker says otherwise.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 9:09pm On Jul 05, 2015
Brown47:


do you mean they live like Jesus(GOD) witout sining
Yeah..enoch was the only righteous man in his time..the people there waS so bad dat God had to take him up to heaven without him tasting death.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by Nobody: 9:37pm On Jul 05, 2015
STEVENcrack:

But ur moniker says otherwise.

Says I don't believe in any other god except me! Do you understand?
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 10:31pm On Jul 05, 2015
theAtheist101:

Says I don't believe in any other god except me! Do you understand?
Its ur funeral dear.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by Nobody: 11:41pm On Jul 05, 2015
STEVENcrack:

Its ur funeral dear.

grin

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Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 3:38am On Jul 06, 2015
Suspect33:
God never wanted it to be so, he created human being in purity, but we defiled ourselves by disobeying his command, thereby making it impossible to live in holiness, but God in his mercy sent us Jesus Christ to wash away our sins so that we can attain that purity that we lost in disobedience.. Isn't that mercy?..... The billions of pple who u say are going to hell, are pple who hav chosen the way of the devil, the devil has been condemned already, nd anybody who chooses his way is automatically condemned wit him... Nd pls pray that God wash away the lies that the enemy has planted in your heart
Firstly u av proven that God is not omniscient bcus he didnt know we'll defy his order
Secondly, u claim that God sent jesus to clean people's sin? Is it necessary that God need to kill his son b4 he forgive? does he want to drink blood? how can u call a god who kill his son for a sin he never commit a merciful god? The action here shows that god of bible is cruel and does not have mercy. Also, ur bible claim that jesus woke up the 3rd day after he had died? To me that is no more a sacrifice, if u call it a sacrifice what shall we call that of our soldiers who are dying in north east just to make sure we are alive? Remember there family wont see them again unlike jesus who later woke up the third day. All i can see in dis ur write up is just that god doesnt know anything about what he created, he knows nothing about what will happen in the world therefore it is sufficient to prove that ur Bilble God is not omniscient
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 4:28am On Jul 06, 2015
STEVENcrack:

Let me clear it out for ya!
God's forgiveneSs is a constant 'K'. God created us as a free moral agent to choose btw life and darkness. good or bad. Eternal life or eternal damnation.
Remember the prodigal son and come back to your father(God) he's willing to take u back in his arms again.
Please.
Since his forgiveness is constant K then why disturbing urself? That means he will forgive my innocent soul bcus he know he's the one to blame by creating devil that he know can convince me.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by eremy: 4:40am On Jul 06, 2015
STEVENcrack:


He's a merciful God that was why he sent his only son JesuS Christ to come and die for our sins.

Those people perished becAuse of their disobedience..cAn in believe that in a whole city of sodom and of gomorrah not even ten people are holy.
How wud u feel bro.

Repent brother.


That same sin is rife today. May God have mercy on us. The end is at the door.

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Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 7:23am On Jul 06, 2015
OgundeleT:

Since his forgiveness is constant K then why disturbing urself? That means he will forgive my innocent soul bcus he know he's the one to blame by creating devil that he know can convince me.
That's if you are willing to penitently ask for his forgiveness..
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 7:27am On Jul 06, 2015
OgundeleT:

Firstly u av proven that God is not omniscient bcus he didnt know we'll defy his order
Secondly, u claim that God sent jesus to clean people's sin? Is it necessary that God need to kill his son b4 he forgive? does he want to drink blood? how can u call a god who kill his son for a sin he never commit a merciful god? The action here shows that god of bible is cruel and does not have mercy. Also, ur bible claim that jesus woke up the 3rd day after he had died? To me that is no more a sacrifice, if u call it a sacrifice what shall we call that of our soldiers who are dying in north east just to make sure we are alive? Remember there family wont see them again unlike jesus who later woke up the third day. All i can see in dis ur write up is just that god doesnt know anything about what he created, he knows nothing about what will happen in the world therefore it is sufficient to prove that ur Bilble God is not omniscient
Its ur funeral. Smh
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 8:16am On Jul 06, 2015
STEVENcrack:

That's if you are willing to penitently ask for his forgiveness..
And if i dont ask for forgiveness what will he do?
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by doofanc: 8:18am On Jul 06, 2015
@STEVENcrack, you should know better than trying to engage Atheists. While some sincerely seek answers, most are out to deride our faith. I believe its more profitable to pray for them to see the Light before its too late.

May we all remain rapturable. Amen

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Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 9:30am On Jul 06, 2015
OgundeleT:
And if i dont ask for forgiveness what will he do?
Its your funeral. Ur words are gonna skin u alive
Pray for your soul.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by Suspect33(m): 1:36pm On Jul 06, 2015
OgundeleT:

Firstly u av proven that God is not omniscient bcus he didnt know we'll defy his order
Secondly, u claim that God sent jesus to clean people's sin? Is it necessary that God need to kill his son b4 he forgive? does he want to drink blood? how can u call a god who kill his son for a sin he never commit a merciful god? The action here shows that god of bible is cruel and does not have mercy. Also, ur bible claim that jesus woke up the 3rd day after he had died? To me that is no more a sacrifice, if u call it a sacrifice what shall we call that of our soldiers who are dying in north east just to make sure we are alive? Remember there family wont see them again unlike jesus who later woke up the third day. All i can see in dis ur write up is just that god doesnt know anything about what he created, he knows nothing about what will happen in the world therefore it is sufficient to prove that ur Bilble God is not omniscient
the human mind can never understand the ways of God

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Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 6:02pm On Jul 06, 2015
Suspect33:
the human mind can never understand the ways of God
Yes, bcus god himself sent a book that is full of tales, fallacies and contradictions. we dont even know his book out of various religion books whether it is bible or quran or others and i dont know whether u can prove that of true god book
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 6:09pm On Jul 06, 2015
STEVENcrack:

Its your funeral.
Ur words are gonna skin u alive

Pray for your soul.
thank u. It seems somebody has gone and give u the report before
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by MizJanet(f): 6:16pm On Jul 06, 2015
STEVENcrack:

There are over 1500 old testament passages that refers to the second coming Of jesus christ..one out of every 25 new testament verses refers to the second coming of christ. For every time the bible mentions the first coming it mentions the second coming 8 times..jesus himself refers to his second coming 21times and over 50times we were told to be ready for his return..THERE ARE PEOPLE that would not still be ready but I am reAdy.

THE QUESTION IS "IF U MISS HEAVEN WHO WOULD YOU BLAME"


Churchman, Dead pple dont go to heaven, PLS tell us what happen to BABIES when they die ?
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by Suspect33(m): 10:32pm On Jul 06, 2015
OgundeleT:

Yes, bcus god himself sent a book that is full of tales, fallacies and contradictions. we dont even know his book out of various religion books whether it is bible or quran or others and i dont know whether u can prove that of true god book
i jst dnt knw your problem, u better pray that the spirit of doubt be taken away from you, because it is a grt weapon of the devil... FYI the bible is the word of God, but without the holy spirit in you it wnt mak any sense to you
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 10:49pm On Jul 06, 2015
MizJanet:


Churchman, Dead pple dont go to heaven, PLS tell us what happen to BABIES when they die ?
Ever came across this in the bible" except you are like this little children you will of no reason enter the kingdom of God"
Think abt it.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by MizJanet(f): 10:09pm On Jul 07, 2015
STEVENcrack:

Ever came across this in the bible" except you are like this little children you will of no reason enter the kingdom of God"
Think abt it.


And I asked two xtians to explain that passage .. One said : " Jesus is telling is apostles to go and become a little child , if they dont change to a liitle boy they wont be accepted" grin when a 30 year old man grow back into a 3 year old .

Another said : " no , dont take it literal its FIGURATIVE what he meant is that his apostles should BE Humble like a little child" do u agree with this ? If so, you havnt answer my question coz the passage u quote is FIGURATIVE


where will a little baby of 2month go if he dies ?

Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 10:29pm On Jul 07, 2015
MizJanet:


And I asked two xtians to explain that passage .. One said : " Jesus is telling is apostles to go and become a little child , if they dont change to a liitle boy they wont be accepted" grin when a 30 year old man grow back into a 3 year old .

Another said : " no , dont take it literal its FIGURATIVE what he meant is that his apostles should BE Humble like a little child" do u agree with this ? If so, you havnt answer my question coz the passage u quote is FIGURATIVE


where will a little baby of 2month go if he dies ?



Am sure u wud also have problem with jesus sayying "that unless a man be born again he can of no use enter the kingdom of God" if not that jesus explained better.
The first Answer above has a zacheus approach, but the second has a better understanding.the former interpreted it conotatively while d latter denotatively. But lemme ask u why do we refer to children as innocent kids, that's becos they don't know anytin, the same children dat quarrel a minute back wud still play d next seconds..they aint gat anytin in their mind.that's why jesus loves them so much and always instruct his disciples to bring them to him..children are innocent and full of Love..true geniune love and if anyone can not possess this attribute he cannot make d kingdom of God.

pls kindly find d attached pics below.

U can also advice me if we could have a more detail conversation via a more convenient medium to clear sometins out. .maybe watsapp..No offences pls.

Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by MizJanet(f): 10:39pm On Jul 07, 2015
STEVENcrack:

And I asked two xtians to explain that passage .. One said : " Jesus is telling is apostles to go and become a little child , if they dont change to a liitle boy they wont be accepted" grin when a 30 year old man grow back into a 3 year old .

Another said : " no , dont take it literal its FIGURATIVE what he meant is that his apostles should BE Humble like a little child" do u agree with this ? If so, you havnt answer my question coz the passage u quote is FIGURATIVE


where will a little baby of 2month go if he dies ?

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Am sure u wud also have problem with jesus sayying "that unless a man be born again he can of no use enter the kingdom of God" if not that jesus explained better.
The first Answer above has a zacheus approach,
You ar saying they will go to heaven since they are innocent . You contradict 2 bible

@bold , are little babies born again ?

2) you contradict psalm 51:5 that said they ar siners !
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 10:52pm On Jul 07, 2015
MizJanet:

You ar saying they will go to heaven since they are innocent . You contradict 2 bible

@bold , are little babies born again ?

2) you contradict psalm 51:5 that said they ar siners !

Miss janet u just be calm a little bit. Ok.

Lemme ask u 'if you didn't offend your father would you go to him to forgive you'

1)Jesus wasn't teLling children to be born again.

2) Psalm 51:5 is about David asking for God's forgiveness when he slept with uriahs wife.it wasn't a small child that was praying.

Lemme bring sometin to you, if u have noticed..when ever jesus heals anybody he wud tell them that ur sins are forgiven thee, go and sin no more BUT he didn't say it to children.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by MizJanet(f): 11:00pm On Jul 07, 2015
STEVENcrack:


Miss janet u just be calm a little bit. Ok.

Lemme ask u 'if you didn't offend your father would you go to him to forgive you'

1)Jesus wasn't teLling children to be born again.

2) Psalm 51:5 is about David asking for God's forgiveness when he slept with uriahs wife.it wasn't a small child that was praying.

Lemme bring sometin to you, if u have noticed..when ever jesus heals anybody he wud tell them that ur sins are forgiven thee, go and sin no more BUT he didn't say it to children.


NL christians always fight with their bible .

Stevencrack: Baby's dont have sin

Genesis : dont forget all have inherit sin from Adam

Psalm 51:5: even as a baby , I was conceive in sin .

................

Paul Romans 3:23 : " ALL Have Sinned"

Stevencrack: " no, not all. Dont count babies "
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 11:10pm On Jul 07, 2015
MizJanet:


NL christians always fight with their bible .

Stevencrack: Baby's dont have sin

Genesis : dont forget all have inherit sin from Adam

Psalm 51:5: even as a baby , I was conceive in sin .

................

Paul Romans 3:23 : " ALL Have Sinned"

Stevencrack: " no, not all. Dont count babies "

Ok miss janet let me ask you this question.
Those people that were born before the the ten commandment was given where would they go..heaven or hell..because the bible also said that if there's no law then there's no sin..that d law begat sin and sin begat death.
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by MizJanet(f): 9:12am On Jul 09, 2015
STEVENcrack:

Ok miss janet let me ask you this question.
Those people that were born before the the ten commandment was given where would they go..heaven or hell..because the bible also said that if there's no law then there's no sin..that d law begat sin and sin begat death.


Lol , I will answer you when uv finished answering my question : where will a 2month old baby go , remember it has been established from ur bible that they are sinners ? Hellfire or they will be no more .

Waiting ..
Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by STEVENcrack(m): 9:59am On Jul 09, 2015
MizJanet:


Lol , I will answer you when uv finished answering my question : where will a 2month old baby go , remember it has been established from ur bible that they are sinners ? Hellfire or they will be no more .

Waiting ..
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