There's a gender in your brain and a gender in your body. For 99% of people, those things are in alignment. For transgender people, they're mismatched. That's all it is. It's not complicated. It's not a neurosis. It's a mix-up. It's a birth defect, like a cleft palate.
Although it's difficult to accept them for who they are but they truth is gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender-people are people like you and me.
Nature chooses who will be transgender; individuals don't choose this.
That was the case with former student of the Obafemi Awolowo University (OAU), Ile Ife, Osun State, Dapo Adaralegbe, who was a man in a woman's body.

He revealed in a 2001 interview after he was expelled from OAU after his sex escapades with fellow males became public knowledge, Dapo claimed he started having sex at the age of six.

“I told you. I started having sex at the age of six, but no one in my family noticed the problem until I was 14 years old," he said at the time.

Adaralegbe is now known as Stephanie Rose, becoming Nigeria's first transgender after plastic surgery in Europe.


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http://www.thecapital.ng/index.php/politics/2767-i-started-having-sex-at-the-age-of-six-nigerian-transgender-dapo-adaralegbe-reveals

You quick spoil ooo

ok sir or madam. muguu boy/girl

He must have been molested by a male.I guess that knocked him 180degrees.

thorpido:
He must have been molested by a male.I guess that knocked him 360degrees.

Yeah he was. It was some uncle. Father was polygamous, mum died when he was 8 thereabouts.

these people keep struggling so hard for acceptance with different stories and actions, i don't envy them at all

salsera:


Yeah he was. It was some uncle. Father was polygamous, mum died when he was 8 thereabouts.

Obviously,that must have had an effect on him.

A child can't "start having sex" at 6 - he was abused, simple. And for at least 8 years . Tragic. The trauma has evidently left him dysfunctional in terms of sex and intimacy. And that is totally understandable - what I don't agree with is "normalising" this. It should be treated with all sympathy, but as a pathology.


TV

It's hard to understand.
So the human mind is inherently male and female?
I could have sworn that the body you're born in determines how your mind gets moulded according to the social norms of what's considered male and female.


I think their choices need to be respected anyways.
Their life their choice.
Or should I say just their life. Since it's not a choice they made.

TV01:
A child can't "start having sex" at 6 - he was abused, simple. And for at least 8 years . Tragic. The trauma has evidently left him dysfunctional in terms of sex and intimacy. And that is totally understandable - what I don't agree with is "normalising" this. It should be treated with all sympathy, but as a pathology.


TV

Any ideas of what a possible cure or management procedure would be If it is treated as a pathology?

Because telling them something is wrong with them with no plans to manage or 'cure' them is like saying "you're the outcast. Not one of us. And so shall you be"

That's inhumane.

cococandy:
It's hard to understand.
So the human mind is inherently male and female?

How far?

That's how he chooses to understand/explain it. It's not necessarily the reality. And note, the trauma came first. When a human being is born and develops normally, biological sex and gender expression are aligned. Anything else has to be considered dysfunctional, no matter how sympathetic we are.

cococandy:
I could have sworn that the body you're born in determines how your mind gets moulded according to the social norms of what's considered male and female.

The body certainly biologically determined - minute cases of true lack of development or differentiation aside. And even the mind, it's largely hormones. The societal construct largely reflects that, it does not determine it.

cococandy:

I think their choices need to be respected anyways.
Their life their choice.
Or should I say just their life. Since it's not a choice they made.

That's fine in principle, but in practice it often means wholesale changes for us all and accomodations to the lives, behaviours and practices of others, that they are not comfortable with.

Society has to have shared, values, morés, codes of conduct, terms of reference and engagement, and protocols to function harmoniously. An ethos of "free for all choice" however "principled", is hardly practical.

cococandy:
Any ideas of what a possible cure or management procedure would be If it is treated as a pathology?

It's evidently a dysfunction, a pathology and should be treated as such - affording them the best medical care we have. I'm not a medic, so can't speak knowledgeably on specific interventions.

cococandy:
Because telling them something is wrong with them with no plans to manage or 'cure' them is like saying "you're the outcast. Not one of us. And so shall you be"
That's inhumane.

I clearly stated "treated" and with "all sympathy".

Your approach suggests affirming the behaviour - like they do now, commence gender re-assignment procedures on confused 4 year olds? If something is wrong, especially psychologically, it helps no one to affirm that belief.


TV

Dapo case no be today. Anyone in OAU in the late 90's early 2000 knew him well

In school then we heard he was molested when he was in KC

Later he went haywire wearing women clothes, trying to get accommodation in female hostel

There was a day his professor told all the females who aren't dressed properly to leave the lecture and he stood up and left

He got a lot of beating then while in Ife

TV01:

How far?

That's how he chooses to understand/explain it. It's not necessarily the reality. And note, the trauma came first. When a human being is born and develops normally, biological sex and gender expression are aligned . Anything else has to be considered dysfunctional, no matter how sympathetic we are.
The body certainly biologically determined - minute cases of true lack of development or differentiation aside. And even the mind, it's largely hormones. The societal construct largely reflects that, it does not determine it.
That's fine in principle, but in practice it often means wholesale changes for us all and accomodations to the lives, behaviours and practices of others, that they are not comfortable with.

Society has to have shared, values, morés, codes of conduct, terms of reference and engagement, and protocols to function harmoniously. An ethos of "free for all choice" however "principled", is hardly practical.


It's evidently a dysfunction, a pathology and should be treated as such - affording them the best medical care we have. I'm not a medic, so can't speak knowledgeably on specific interventions.


I clearly stated "treated" and with "all sympathy".

Your approach suggests affirming the behaviour - like they do now, commence gender re-assignment procedures on 4 year olds? If something is wrong, especially psychologically, it helps no one to affirm that belief.


TV

I'm fine.

Ok so here's what's going on. I'm taking psychology right now and it's actually one of the hot debates in my class at the moment.

I've always been of the same opinion as the bolded in your post. That is that gender of the mind is factually determined by physical gender.
I was sure it's a fact.
But my challenge is to prove it.
And guess what? I couldn't. Nobody can really prove it.

Short of raising experimental kids in a socially sterile environment, where they will have no social interactions whatsoever, you can't really tell for a fact that being male or female in the mind is not largely dependent on what you've learned by observation as a kid growing in a 'genderized' society.

Even if it were possible to conduct such an experiment, the kids would grow up mentally impaired because humans need social interactions to be fully rounded and balanced mentally.

So now you have a mentally impaired human who you can't tell if their lack of any gender streamline is because of the mental impairment or truly because he hasn't been conditioned from birth to be genderless.

Well as for the rest of the post, it is indeed considered a deviation/dysfunction .
And it has a name. Gender dysphoria. Medically it fits all the criteria to be considered a disorder.

But the treating the people who have it as 'sick' is where the problem lies. Apart from having the mind of a man in a woman's body, they are just like regular people, just as smart and what have you. most importantly, they are not dying and are not a source of harm to other people around them.

So treating them with sympathy might be condescending.

raumdeuter:
Dapo case no be today. Anyone in OAU in the late 90's early 2000 knew him well

In school then we heard he was molested when he was in KC

Later he went haywire wearing women clothes, trying to get accommodation in female hostel

There was a day his professor told all the females who aren't dressed properly to leave the lecture and he stood up and left

He got a lot of beating then while in Ife

So this is the Dapo guy?

A lot of OAU professor's kids used to talk about him a lot in Babcock University then.

It's good he left Nigeria though.

Disgusting

cococandy:
Ok so here's what's going on. I'm taking psychology right now and it's actually one of the hot debates in my class at the moment.

I've always been of the same opinion as the bolded in your post. That is that gender of the mind is factually determined by physical gender.
I was sure it's a fact.
But my challenge is to prove it.
And guess what? I couldn't. Nobody can really prove it.

If one speaks from a belief in the Christian God and the bible - given the fall, we understand that man can a vast array of possible dysfunctions (evidence of the sinful nature).

If one subscribes to evolutionary theory - which is dispassionate and drives towards the survival of the fittest - what purpose would that kind of disconnect have? Why would it not be "bred out" by natural selection?

As for no proof, studies show that right from birth, baby boys and girls demonstrate different traits. So for example, if you slam a door in a room full of babies the girls are 40% more likely to cry. Nothing constructed or built at that age. Toddler boys preferring guns and girls dolls is not a construct, even if it's not 100% correlated - the exceptions merely prove the rule.

cococandy:
Short of raising experimental kids in a socially sterile environment, where they will have no social interactions whatsoever, you can't really tell for a fact that being male or female in the mind is not largely dependent on what you've learned by observation as a kid growing in a 'genderized' society.

It's the notion of "gender" that is a construct, biological sex is determinative and cannot be just about the body alone. Hormonal effects and puberty all lead towards distinct physical and psychological traits - even if there is overlap and some exceptions.

After all, the total population of people whose biological sex,"orientation" and "gender" do not align no reach 5% - and that's estimating generously. And evolutionary speaking they do not drive the human species forward or procreate

cococandy:

Even if it were possible to conduct such an experiment, the kids would grow up mentally impaired because humans need social interactions to be fully rounded and balanced mentally.

Because humans are sexually dimorphous for a reason - the compliment perfectly - there is no need. What ever norms we have are based on biological and functional reality, not the other way round.

cococandy:
So now you have a mentally impaired human who you can't tell if their lack of any gender streamline is because of the mental impairment or truly because he hasn't been conditioned from birth to be genderless.

The case in question has clear causality. Even if we accept some may literally be from birth - although children are not born sexual, that development comes later - it has to be seen as dysfunction.

cococandy:
Well as for the rest of the post, it is indeed considered a deviation/dysfunction .
And it has a name. Gender dysphoria. Medically it fits all the criteria to be considered a disorder.

I'm aware

cococandy:
But the treating the people who have it as 'sick' is where the problem lies. Apart from having the mind of a man in a woman's body, they are just like regular people, just as smart and what have you. most importantly, they are not dying and are not a source of harm to other people around them.

So treating them with sympathy might be condescending.

I don't agree, there is something patently wrong, and it is an illness. Are you saying gender re-assignment surgery is the right course of action? That is "physical" mutilation for what you yourself consider a problem of the mind. Does that make sense? Not least because surgery cannot recode DNA or re-assign reproductive function or correct a psychological malfunction.

And it's pertinent to know there'a a whole body of "re-assignment regret" evidence on the net, it's heavily suppressed.


TV

TV01:

If one speaks from a belief in the Christian God and the bible - given the fall, we understand that man can a vast array of possible dysfunctions (evidence of the sinful nature).

If one subscribes to evolutionary theory - which is dispassionate and drives towards the survival of the fittest - what purpose would that kind of disconnect have? Why would it not be "bred out" by natural selection?

As for no proof, studies show that right from birth, baby boys and girls demonstrate different traits. So for example, if you slam a door in a room full of babies the girls are 40% more likely to cry. Nothing constructed or built at that age. Toddler boys preferring guns and girls dolls is not a construct, even if it's not 100% correlated - the exceptions merely prove the rule.


It's the notion of "gender" that is a construct, biological sex is determinative and cannot be just about the body alone. Hormonal effects and puberty all lead towards distinct physical and psychological traits - even if there is overlap and some exceptions.

After all, the total population of people whose biological sex,"orientation" and "gender" do not align no reach 5% - and that's estimating generously. And evolutionary speaking they do not drive the human species forward or procreate


Because humans are sexually dimorphous for a reason - the compliment perfectly - there is no need. What ever norms we have are based on biological and functional reality, not the other way round.


The case in question has clear causality. Even if we accept some may literally be from birth - although children are not born sexual, that development comes later - it has to be seen as dysfunction.


I'm aware


I don't agree, there is something patently wrong, and it is an illness. Are you saying gender re-assignment surgery is the right course of action? That is "physical" mutilation for what you yourself consider a problem of the mind. Does that make sense? Not least because surgery cannot recode DNA or re-assign reproductive function or correct a psychological malfunction.

And it's pertinent to know there'a a whole body of "re-assignment regret" evidence on the net, it's heavily suppressed.


TV

@ the rest of the post, noted.

@the bolded.

What's a cure?

1.
relieve (a person or animal) of the symptoms of a disease or condition.
"he was cured of the disease"
synonyms: heal, restore to health, make well/better;
"after a long course of treatment, he was cured"

If that course of action relieves them of the symptoms of feeling like they are in the wrong body, why isn't it a cure? Because it's not conventional?

Now their minds align with the image of who they believe they are.
The symptoms of feeling in the wrong body is gone. They are no longer distraught.
Is that not the definition of a cure?
Who says all cure has to only be about pills or therapy.

When it's in the mind, it's harder to reach than when it's just in the body.
What's easier to work on? The mind or the body?
The body of course.

The only thing hindering us from accepting it fully is the shock factor. It's shocking to all of us. To me. To you. It doesn't mean that by indept analysis, you can actually point to something wrong (i.e against any laws) about that course of treatment.

.

I want to be like Mr TV when I grow up

raumdeuter:
Dapo case no be today. Anyone in OAU in the late 90's early 2000 knew him well

In school then we heard he was molested when he was in KC

Later he went haywire wearing women clothes, trying to get accommodation in female hostel

There was a day his professor told all the females who aren't dressed properly to leave the lecture and he stood up and left

He got a lot of beating then while in Ife

i saw shim once or twice at OAU in the early 2000s. i was wondering why anyone would have such low levels of self esteem. she wore heels & carried a lady's bag.

yeah, i heard shim got beaten a lot by people who found her way of life repulsive. there was a gist about one rich aristo that visited the school for a weekend.

he picked dapo up thinking he had found a girl to lay for the night only to discover dapo had a pënis under the mini skirt. the aristo beat the living daylight out of dapo.

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coogar:


i saw shim once or twice at OAU in the early 2000s. i was wondering why anyone would have such low levels of self esteem. she wore heels & carried a lady's bag.

yeah, i heard shim got beaten a lot by people who found her way of life repulsive. there was a gist about one rich aristo that visited the school for a weekend.

he picked dapo up thinking he had found a girl to lay for the night only to discover dapo had a pënis under the mini skirt. the aristo beat the living daylight out of dapo.

Hmm.

Them say them say.

Everything about this thread NO PURE!

cococandy:


@ the rest of the post, noted.

@the bolded.

What's a cure?


If that course of action relieves them of the symptoms of feeling like they are in the wrong body, why isn't it a cure? Because it's not conventional?

Now their minds align with the image of who they believe they are.
The symptoms of feeling in the wrong body is gone. They are no longer distraught.
Is that not the definition of a cure?
Who says all cure has to only be about pills or therapy.

When it's in the mind, it's harder to reach than when it's just in the body.
What's easier to work on? The mind or the body?
The body of course.

The only thing hindering us from accepting it fully is the shock factor. It's shocking to all of us. To me. To you. It doesn't mean that by indept analysis, you can actually point to something wrong (i.e against any laws) about that course of treatment.

Whatever the "cure" is, it cannot be to further the persons confusion by pumping them full of hormones, them undergo mutilating surgery, and entertaining them in their "emperors new clothes charade.

And more seriously, you are assuming that re-assignment actually makes them happy and comfortable in themselves. I ended with the fact that there is a lot of regret over surgery in the trans community, but it's suppressed.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth - this from a left-wing rag I personally detest.
http://www.sexchangeregret.com/
http://www.sexchangeregret.com/examples
http://help4families.com/?page_id=437
https://gendertrender./tag/sex-change-regret/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2783583/Man-10-000-treatment-woman-wants-REVERSE-sex-change-criticises-NHS-lack-psychiatric-evaluation.html

And what of those that just like to cross-dress and accessorise? Why don't they want to go all the way? Different degrees of the illness - a fetish and not as serious an illness maybe?

Full +75% of teens that identify as homosexual, fully identify as straight by age 24. Why would we start gender re-assignment for children/pre-teens? A fuller transition is made if treatment is started pre-pubescence, hence the reason for starting earlier, but what's the chance they would simply grow out of it if left alone?


TV

coogar:


i saw shim once or twice at OAU in the early 2000s. i was wondering why anyone would have such low levels of self esteem. she wore heels & carried a lady's bag.

yeah, i heard shim got beaten a lot by people who found her way of life repulsive. there was a gist about one rich aristo that visited the school for a weekend.

he picked dapo up thinking he had found a girl to lay for the night only to discover dapo had a pënis under the mini skirt. the aristo beat the living daylight out of dapo.

I first saw him around February 1999 in one of the male hostels and he looked odd, make his hair, wore hipsters and was catwalking I thought this is either a very ugly girl or a confused guy.

From then he just went haywire. He even changed his name from Dapo saying that was too masculine. He was interviewed by a campus magazine (Megaphone) where he said he hope to go to another country have a sex change and be a mother

raumdeuter:


I first saw him around February 1999 in one of the male hostels and he looked odd, make his hair, wore hipsters and was catwalking I thought this is either a very ugly girl or a confused guy.

From then he just went haywire. He even changed his name from Dapo saying that was too masculine. He was interviewed by a campus magazine (Megaphone) where he said he hope to go to another country have a sex change and be a mother

he's now a she!
her sex change is now complete. she went to spain & she somehow convinced british authorities that her lifestyle made her a victim in nigeria. they believed shim - she's now in britain & i am very sure my taxes paid for her surgery. there was a documentary on TV about her like 2 years ago sef & she blasted nigeria there. na yeye human being!

freecocoa:

Hmm.
Them say them say.

i saw shim with my korokoro eyes. shim is uglier than jabba the hutt!

TV01:

Whatever the "cure" is, it cannot be to further the persons confusion by pumping them full of hormones, them undergo mutilating surgery, and entertaining them in their "emperors new clothes charade.

And more seriously, you are assuming that re-assignment actually makes them happy and comfortable in themselves. I ended with the fact that there is a lot of regret over surgery in the trans community, but it's suppressed.

http://www.sexchangeregret.com/
http://www.sexchangeregret.com/examples
http://help4families.com/?page_id=437
https://gendertrender./tag/sex-change-regret/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2783583/Man-10-000-treatment-woman-wants-REVERSE-sex-change-criticises-NHS-lack-psychiatric-evaluation.html

And what of those that just like to cross-dress and accessorise? Why don't they want to go all the way? Different degrees of the illness - a fetish and not as serious an illness maybe?

Full +75% of teens that identify as homosexual, fully identify as straight by age 24. Why would we start gender re-assignment for children/pre-teens? A fuller transition is made if treatment is started pre-pubescence, hence the reason for starting earlier, but what's the chance they would simply grow out of it if left alone?


TV

Well that's where the if comes in.
If it makes them feel better. Then why not call it a cure?

As with humans some will feel better, some will not. So for some, it is a cure by definition: Do you think it possible to deny those who want to go ahead and do the surgery the chance to do so because they may regret it?
I'm being realistic about what may or not be legally achievable.

@bold, I totally agree with you.

Which in turn raises other questions. Why not let the teen do it when it's usually best? Do we leave the decision to the parents since they are still minors?
What if the parent decides otherwise and the kid can't get the treatment until later on, will he hate the parents for denying him the chance for a full transition?
What if the parents go with it and he changes his mind later on, won't he hate his parents for not being authoritative enough to stop him?
Lots of questions.

About cross-dressers maybe. Just like there are mild schizophrenics and Catatonic ones. Their will always be some in the grey areas.

No, you were not having sex. You were being molested.
Nigerian men will molest ANYTHING with or without an orifice!

If only "PEPEYES" could speak!

Congrats on your new life!

Naija men! Oya o. Come and reap what you have germinated! A BEAUTIFUL BRIDE, freshly-constructed!

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cococandy:

Well that's where the if comes in.
If it makes them feel better. Then why not call it a cure?

A person has gender dysphoria - a disconnect between their biological sex and the sex they believe themselves to be - why wouldn't they think that being "changed" into a woman is the cure? But nothing we can do can make a male into a female and vice versa. Did you ead any of the links?

cococandy:
As with humans some will feel better, some will not. So for some, it is a cure by definition: Do you think it possible to deny those who want to go ahead and do the surgery the chance to do so because they may regret it?

"Feeling better" is not necessarily a cure. Becoming "comfortable" in their confusion, is not a cure. Even if that course of action is preferable to some and we allow it as a matter of choice, do we sell it as the only or preferred way?

Especially for vulnerable and easily confused children? Escpecially in light of reparative therapies that seek to cure the ailment at the root and restore them by removing the disconnect?

Especially by re-writing laws, re-defining institutions, re-engineering shared morés and re-negotiating social agreements, to discomfort and even persecute the vast majority of the population to ensure "equality" for a handful?

cococandy:
I'm being realistic about what may or not be legally achievable.

Anything is legally possible. And whlst we would hope that laws are aligned with morality and truth, it not always is. Did you not hear about the SCOTUS ruling on June 26th?

cococandy:
@bold, I totally agree with you.

Totally in part

cococandy:
Which in turn raises other questions. Why not let the teen do it when it's usually best? Do we leave the decision to the parents since they are still minors?

If one sees the gender re-assignment procedure "as best", then it makes sense to start as early as possible, pre-pubescence if possible, before hormones really kick-in. Which brings us back to the point that many will grow out of the dysphoria - and still yet many more will regret the procedure. And this is clearly not a decision for a minor.

cococandy:
What if the parent decides otherwise and the kid can't get the treatment until later on, will he hate the parents for denying him the chance for a full transition?

Again, this is speaking out of an understanding of GR as best? "What is a full transition"? It it actually possible? What of reparative therapy or counselling or dealing with any trauma the child may have suffered?

cococandy:
What if the parents go with it and he changes his mind later on, won't he hate his parents for not being authoritative enough to stop him?
Lots of questions.

It's difficult and there may be pain either way, but in parent/chold relations, I am loathe to blame responsible and mature parents for doing what's in their childs best interest.

But even this is problematic if parents don't have full knowledge or act out of a belief or ideology - even genuinely held - that a certain way is preferable. And that includes those on both sides of the debate.

cococandy:
About cross-dressers maybe. Just like there are mild schizophrenics and Catatonic ones. Their will
always be some in the grey areas.

Or varying degrees of dysfunction/pathology. Somebeing literally "harmless" in a sense - from a legal point of view !


TV

Hmmm
Dapo
There is no dem say with Dapo.
I didnt go to Ife but I visited often so I met him at guest house frequently.
Dapo did quite a bit of prostituting in Uni or free sex. He was looking for customers when I saw him first time.I just thought he was a wierd looking woman (bad foundation) Besides I didn't get why he kept running after any man that even casually looked his way.

Till my colleague who was alumni greeted him then it clicked. And yes he had aristo lovers who were obviously closet gays who flocked to Ife by then he was staying in quarters.

I heard the rest of his story from his newspaper interviews , by then he was a street walker. It was the only way he could get sex. If you read some of his writings online he isn't totally 'all there' though he is a smart man.

Coco
Back in the day when I would follow up on transgender stories you'd find regret stories, constantly trying to be more of the other gender surgeries so much so it becomes an obsession. The more startling fact is that a large number keep the Instruments and have incomplete transition, simply because that's the only way they have been found attractive sexually . Why keep a womb if you transitioned to man or keep the p..nis if you always thought you were a woman in your soul.

I'm sure there are a few cases where they are content with the change. But for Dapo that molestation at 6and subsequent molestation or should I say rape in school with the kind of treatment he got in 90's Nigeria messed an already messed up man.

Coogar
By the way he actually started his transition in Nigeria. Like a lot of transgender he got hormone therapy on the black market. Its the surgery he got funding for. I doubt he did that in the UK, funding for that kain tin no dey available then oh. Maybe na Europe.


The problem with addressing gender identity crisis prepuberty is that if they start hormone therapy that early then if this they change their minds then biologically they are in s?'t. Cos it surpressing one hormone and effectually affecting their growth.

salsera:
Hmmm
Dapo
There is no dem say with Dapo.
I didnt go to Ife but I visited often so I met him at guest house frequently.
Dapo did quite a bit of prostituting in Uni or free sex. He was looking for customers when I saw him first time.I just thought he was a wierd looking woman (bad foundation) Besides I didn't get why he kept running after any man that even casually looked his way.

Till my colleague who was alumni greeted him then it clicked. And yes he had aristo lovers who were obviously closet gays who flocked to Ife by then he was staying in quarters.

I heard the rest of his story from his newspaper interviews , by then he was a street walker. It was the only way he could get sex. If you read some of his writings online he isn't totally 'all there' though he is a smart man.

Coco
Back in the day when I would follow up on transgender stories you'd find regret stories, constantly trying to be more of the other gender surgeries so much so it becomes an obsession. The more startling fact is that a large number keep the Instruments and have incomplete transition, simply because that's the only way they have been found attractive sexually . Why keep a womb if you transitioned to man or keep the p..nis if you always thought you were a woman in your soul.

I'm sure there are a few cases where they are content with the change. But for Dapo that molestation at 6and subsequent molestation or should I say rape in school with the kind of treatment he got in 90's Nigeria messed an already messed up man.

Coogar
By the way he actually started his transition in Nigeria. Like a lot of transgender he got hormone therapy on the black market. Its the surgery he got funding for. I doubt he did that in the UK, funding for that kain tin no dey available then oh. Maybe na Europe.


The problem with addressing gender identity crisis prepuberty is that if they start hormone therapy that early then if this they change their minds then biologically they are in s?'t. Cos it surpressing one hormone and effectually affecting their growth.

I used to work on Allen Avenue and often came across him.Someone mentioned that he had a house off Allen.At times,we would have eye contact and he would try to hold the contact.(I always felt pissed off).He wasn't handsome/beautiful and i just wonder what his partners saw in him.I guess gays have it twisted anyway.