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| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:21pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
trillville:How can you improve the wellbeing of Nigerians when you keep supporting the same unworkable model that has impoverished them in the first place? I'm yet to meet a Nigerian more patriotic than me. It's just that my definition of patriotism is totally different from the conventional one. And I'm more loyal to truth than country. Till we change this system, no moving forward. That we love a people doesn't necessarily men we must live together. That's the bitter truth. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Humorclux: 2:21pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
trillville:You have a point. The north has alot of natural resource and some of them are being exploited without the goverment knowledge, They can also survive with their agriculture( you and i know that). The south west have lagos, Ogun, while i don't have much knowledge abouth the other states in the south west. The South East have every thing to survive in a true fedralism. From Human Resources to Natural Resources, they have it. The South , they have abudant of crude which they can make good use of, take a look at Rivers, Delta, Akwa ibom and Calabar you'll see that they have the tendancy to survive |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by stevecantrell: 2:23pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
true federalism will only be attained when individual states are finally allowed to INDEPENDENTLY mine their SOLID MINERALS. We've been sitting on $50 to 100 trillion in solid Min. while shouting "OIL ! OIL!! " over the years.. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by trillville(m): 2:23pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
atlwireles:it was not my intention to call any nigerian lazy, we are a great people and the niger deltans are particularly hardworking and creative people. my point is that the niger delta also does not need the sale crude oil as its primary source of funding. there are many developed countries without a drop of crude oil. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:23pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Humorclux:And then only the resources from one region are being used to distribute to and shared amongst all. What could be more unjust than that? It's treasonable to me if I don't curse this injustice. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
stevecantrell:We've been telling them since 22 BC! Our problems aren't spiritual. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by OJUcrook: 2:28pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Southwest:The politicians in Nigeria are the one against True Federalism. The palavar of some state Governors owing workers salary was as a result of the financial recklessness of the pasat administarion, heck, even the FG at sometime owed its own workers salary too. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:29pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
trillville:Did the groundnut made the North lazy, Did Cocoa made the SW lazy, Did Palm Oil made the East lazy? The ND are suffering from Oil curse because the amount of environment degradation there willl take the next 100 years to clean. Oil is a free gift of nature to the ND just as Solid Minerals are to the North who fail to exploit it |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Viktor1983(m): 2:29pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
amaben2020:when Dearpreye created a similar thread like this, the thread was deleted by the mods, just because it involved a lot of hate words and name calling , I wrote what I wrote so it can have some psychological effects on anyone who might think the thread about war. its just my own Lil way of sustaining the discussion. Are u not enjoying how civil the thread is ? |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by OJUcrook: 2:30pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
stevecantrell:may your days be long |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:33pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Viktor1983:Seriously, that thread was penned with the highest inspiration and love I've felt in weeks, and it didn't involve name calling or hate words. Nigeria simply Hayes truth but someone's gonna tell them the truth. I pleaded I be given the opportunity to modify where I broke the rules, but I'm yet to get a reply. What impudence! And I wrote it on the move; I have no copy of it. Very painful. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by trillville(m): 2:35pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Humorclux:if the niger delta has all the oil wealth and the rest of the country is poor, the general population in the niger delta will still be poor. what creates wealth for the masses is business and what creates the need for business is having a market to sell goods to. why nigeria is a poor country is because our leaders are pennywise and pound foolish. they steal money to create businesses but have no one to use their services. if you've been to Abuja, you'll realise the large number of houses that are empty with no one living in them. i give up. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by OJUcrook: 2:35pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
HopeAtHand:you make sense. I partially agree with you |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:37pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
trillville:Don't give up just yet. We all know you have a valid point there. We are simply saying let's give it a try. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by trillville(m): 2:38pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
ECOTERRORS:is the oil properly been exploited by the ND? why don't we have refineries? must we sell crude oil? can't we sell petrol and diesel? is the answer every region going on its own or nigeria developing a plan to properly harness its resources? no nigerian is lazy by the way. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Raymondgabriel(m): 2:42pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
trillville:[b] trillville:[/b] trillville: |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by OrlandoOwoh(m): 2:43pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
There was no problem with our federalism, or it was over looked, till after the loss of Jonathan. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by atlwireles: 2:45pm On Jul 10, 2015*. Modified: 3:04pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
HopeAtHand:Only dishonest people refuse to see the improvement the 13% derivation has made in the Niger delta. Please show us the miracles, the 87% you kept produced in Nigeria. Give people back control over their lives, don't hide behind institutions. Nigeria central government kept almost 100% of the oil revenues between 1975 -2003, what was the result? The people on the Niger delta, were left with 100% of the problems. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:45pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh:I don't know of others. I've never failed to make this call known on my FB wall. The problems are deeper and bigger than GEJ loss or the victory of PMB. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:46pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
trillville:the skewed federal system we practise today makes it possible for the centre to control everything and the component units to be @ their mercy. Do you know 2 states in the north can pull resources together And build refinery which will go a long way to generate income for them but its only possible if there is true federalism. We can't stop selling crude oil because some countries prefe refining Their own fuel to tailor with their consumption pattern |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Raymondgabriel(m): 2:51pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
trillville:[b] trillville:[/b] trillville:[b] trillville:[b] trillville:[/b] trillville:[/b] trillville:[b] trillville:[/b] trillville: |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by OrlandoOwoh(m): 2:52pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
dearpreye:It seems you, Bärcanista and your friends no longer say anything about the Lower Niger. Why? |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:54pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh:You can't understand us. Never! |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Leopardd(m): 2:55pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh:Because they evangelizing about Biafra. Same thing, u know ![]() |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:57pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
trillville:I think you are looking more at the ND oil forgetting that there are other sectors that can give you billions of naira. Examples of states that can survive without oil Lagos: commerce, service, industry etc Ogun: industry and agriculture Anambra and Abia: commerce and industry Ebonyi: agriculture Kano: industry, commerce Cross River/ akwa ibom: Tourism Taraba, Benue, kogi, plateau: Agriculture, Tourism, Sokoto, Katsina, osun Ekiti, Kaduna: solid minerals, Agriculture, commerce |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 2:58pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh:please don't derail, stay on the topic |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
I think you are getting this all wrong. One of the reasons why states are "ppor" is systematic. The system we currently practice is flawed and a problem itself. For instance, you have a situation where no state is allowed to shore up resources from mining the minerals resting underneath them all because the FG has Exclusive right. They have no choice but to wait for "Oyel" from the Niger Delta. When the oyel money comes, they share 70% among their friends and cronies and cry that they aren't getting enough from the FG. Cititizens can't ask questions because if they do, the Govs will say the allocation isn't enough. They will shift attention to the FG. It is very difficult to hold them responsible. All attention will be thr FG. What will happen if we have an arrangement where 50% of the resources earnings will go to the center, 25% to the communities producing these resources and another 25% to states producing the resources? What will happen if the FG use a certain percent of its earnings on intervention program targetted at "poorer" states or states that runs into crises? What will happen when the Govs and Council Chairmen know that there is no FG to point accusing fingers to should there be complaint of failure from citizens? What will happen when citizens know that they are to owe their states(and themselves) responsible for any mismanagement? Won't these create platform for progress and development? See what is happening....Governors that shared N3trillion from the ECA (apart from their statutory allocation) instead of giving account of their stewardship are crying of empty treasury. If there is fiscal federalism will their be room for any complain such as this? Wouldn't they have given account? Now tell me, don't you think fiscal federalism will solve many of our problems? trillville: |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Yujin(m): 3:09pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
I'll come to this thread later. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 3:11pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Yujin:You're meaningful contribution will surely be appreciated. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by UncleJudax(m): 3:11pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Agbaletu:Unfortunately, our politicians love the status quo. Lack of accountability is the major motivation for folks in government today. We have got to put our feet down, and demand that the current system be changed. Else, in 100years from now, we will all be gone anyway, the situation would still be bleak, if not worse. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by HopeAtHand: 3:11pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
atlwireles:Are u unaware that democracy returned to Nigeria in 1999..A military administrator should ask Abacha or Babangida for increased oil percentage for NDelta so they accuse him of treason and hang him? If you are sincere then your analysis should be relative to the specific period in which had control of our destiny.We asked for 50% but got 13%.our leaders pillaged our resources.From Ibori to Uduaghan, Alams to Sylva and Dickson, Odili to Amaechi and Wike(surely), the stories are the same..combine the loot of these few men and it wil run into billions of dollars in a region begging for attention. the way things are now, increased derivation percentage will amount to more money to loot. |
| Re: Nigeria Still Has A Date With Truth! by Nobody: 3:13pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
UncleJudax:Simple. The system is a hindrance to the development of the people. A Nation shouldn't an albatross to the growth of its own people. |
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