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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m):
coogar:
are you sure about this?

https://i.minus.com/ibyWJUnZTeusI6.gif

that is kagawa supplying an assist from the left channel for valencia to tap in...
Phil jones(a CD) played DMF against west ham and sailorxy has the guts to criticize chelsea for using Kurt zouma there against man united. To even think man u played 2-2 while chelsea won theirs. Hypocrisy, sentiments and double standard dey oozzz follow sailorxy. Cc: bigkesh, jimmy4x
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:32am On Jul 14, 2015
hensben:
Phil jones(a CD) played DMF against west ham and sailorxy has the guts to criticize chelsea for using Kurt zouma there against man united. To even think man u played 2-2 while chelsea won theirs. Hypocrisy and double standard dey oozzz follow sailorxy.
says the specialist on players and their formation.
A la Arda Turan.

Pray tell us where he will fit into Barca's lineup,Benson and Hedges.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:37am On Jul 14, 2015
elampiro:
I dont trust your opta charts.
we will get to that later.....

Now are you saying he a was angry because he was subbed not because of number 9? We are getting there.
he was angry at his own performance & the humiliation of being pulled off in a game where he performed poorly in the hole! according to whoscored, rooney was the poorest outfield player on the night & he was deservedly removed.

Rooney played in the wing in Madrid and CM at OT. Was enough to get him angry. At same time he was prolific from the hole.
madrid was a different proposition to the weak teams rooney had played against. it's not the first time SAF would adjust his teams to nullify the threat of his opponents.


Same period he was used in two or three league games in the midfield. These coupled with nine substitutions were enough for Rooney to ask questions. It has nothing to do with Van Persie.
rooney was threatened he was no longer the main man @man utd. a JJC dethroned him & it was van persie that was getting all the accolades.

9 substitutions are as a result of rooney's poor performance. sir alex said it himself that there's no way he could never put a fit & firing rooney on the bench.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar:
elampawa: I dont trust your opta charts.
you are the only one that saw rooney deep in the midfield. whoscored, premier league official website & transfermarkt saw rooney in the hole.

what's your excuse now?
united played 4-2-3-1. don't use cheap excuses to explain rooney's shambolic performance at upton park. he was very poor on the night while playing in the hole.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 9:45am On Jul 14, 2015
StarBoard:
The noises around bringing in Cavani are getting louder.

I do not like them. most likely the deal will be done with Di Maria going in the other direction.

Woody no fall our hand collectively.
Yeah, I'll be very sad to lose di María. Will put a downer on the transfer window success.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:53am On Jul 14, 2015
StarBoard:
The noises around bringing in Cavani are getting louder.

I do not like them. most likely the deal will be done with Di Maria going in the other direction.

Woody no fall our hand collectively.
Edison Cavani? just another on high wages who won't guarantee anything - - -

let's get Otamendi, sell Evans & forget the team like that, its big enough!

all the Gaitan & Cavani spices are not required.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 9:55am On Jul 14, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:59am On Jul 14, 2015
tess1:
I asked you about EPL games only but if you are including UCL then we should be talking about larger than 22 starts that i stated.

Let's even accept that it's three games which i have my doubts about. You are now telling me that Rooney turned into a cry baby because of being used out of your supposed no 10 in just three games out 22 starts?

As at 2012/13, Rooney have spent about 9years at Man Utd. Was that the first time he has been used out of position in three or more games?

The fact has been established with these that it was top striker position that Rooney was talking about because he played the number 10 position mostly in that season.

There was rarely a game that both Kagawa and Rooney played that Rooney was sacrificed for Kagawa in the no 10 position. Kagawa was the one sacrificed unless Rooney played up top.

Rooney have been used out of position in his Man Utd appearances for more than three times in the past for him to then complain about mere three games.

There is no need for any more argument about this because it has now been confirmed that Rooney was referring to the no 9 position as the upfront in his statement.
Be logical. Stop mentioning 22 games which spanned across 9 months.

We are talking about Rooney being played out of position in 5 out of 9 consecutive matches. From Madrid game to Villa game.

Same time SAF said Rooney and Kagawa might be rotated in the number 10. Rooney was having his best time in number 10 when suddenly SAF had to use him for defensive duties while Kagawa played number 10.

Kagawa was number 10 in Madrid. Same against Villa,

There were also substitutions. It had nothing to do with RVP.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 10:02am On Jul 14, 2015
StarBoard:
says the specialist on players and their formation.
A la Arda Turan.

Pray tell us where he will fit into Barca's lineup,Benson and Hedges.
You are nothing but a nitwit..Turan can play CM(Turkey national team), AMF and LMF(Atletico madrid) reason i said mou may play him in CM(beside matic) due to his aggressive play. Na today coaches begin switch player's position. your coach played valencia for RB last season. Iniesta and Turan are going to share AMF position for barca next season. cool..Simeone play 4 mifielders n two strikers due to his massive attack massive defense tactics, him nor dey play natural winger.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:10am On Jul 14, 2015
coogar:
you are the only one that saw rooney deep in the midfield. whoscored, premier league official website & transfermarkt saw rooney in the hole.

what's your excuse now?
united played 4-2-3-1. don't use cheap excuses to explain rooney's shambolic performance at upton park. he was very poor on the night while playing in the hole.
Let me just dash you this one. It doesn't remove the fact that out of about 9 consecutive matches SAF used Rooney out of position 4 or 5 times. Dropped him to the bench once and substituted him severally . Just because Rooney's body language was negative in Madrid.

This was just after Rooney had scored 11 goals in 12 games from his natural position behind the striker. Not to mention assists.

This has nothing to do with Van Persie.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:16am On Jul 14, 2015
Man utd players n the club's tailor



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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:18am On Jul 14, 2015
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E be like say Depay n Shaw r becoming best of buddies grin grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:18am On Jul 14, 2015
coogar:
we will get to that later.....



he was angry at his own performance & the humiliation of being pulled off in a game where he performed poorly in the hole! according to whoscored, rooney was the poorest outfield player on the night & he was deservedly removed.



madrid was a different proposition to the weak teams rooney had played against. it's not the first time SAF would adjust his teams to nullify the threat of his opponents.




rooney was threatened he was no longer the main man @man utd. a JJC dethroned him & it was van persie that was getting all the accolades.

9 substitutions are as a result of rooney's poor performance. sir alex said it himself that there's no way he could never put a fit & firing rooney on the bench.
You are pointing to the fact that he unhappiness was not tied to the number 9 position Van Persie was playing.

However Rooney had a good season, SAF had a massive squad and was determine to make everyone happy. Then Rooney had to go on subb and position rotation with Kagawa, Welbeck and Giggs.

This was despite Rooney having a good time in the hole at the time. He even finished with best assists record per minutes played in EPL that season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:19am On Jul 14, 2015
elampiro:
Let me just dash you this one. It doesn't remove the fact that out of about 9 consecutive matches SAF used Rooney out of position 4 or 5 times. Dropped him to the bench once and substituted him severally . Just because Rooney's body language was negative in Madrid.
dash??
unfortunately for you, you cannot beat facts! no opinion beats facts. rooney played in the hole against west ham & he performed poorly in that role.

apart from the madrid games, rooney only played out of position twice in 27 league games. how is that reason enough for him to spit his dummy out?

This was just after Rooney had scored 11 goals in 12 games from his natural position behind the striker. Not to mention assists.
as it turned out, rooney wasn't concerned about playing in the hole. he wanted the CF position like we told you, like guardian newspaper told you & like rooney himself told you that he wanted to play upfront


This has nothing to do with Van Persie.
if we didn't sign van persie, rooney would never have played in the hole or get benched against madrid. rooney wanted to play alongside RVP(like he played alongside welbeck/chicha in 11/12) instead of behind a striker. he scored 27 goals or so in 11/12 & his numbers were low in 12/13. that was his complaint!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 10:20am On Jul 14, 2015
If hear say di maria dhey commot dis season eh....

Una can listen to yeye rumours shaaa


Di Maria is staying put
He's a very good attacking player for us... He'll come good... he's first season wasn't okay though... But we'll reap the fruit of di maria if we'd patient with him

Even with his poor performance, he coped 10 assists and 4 goals for us last season.. . Wen in his form... That nigga and good striker will hand us the bpl on a platter of gold... Trust me.. . U think LvG and woody are stvpid... even if they're buying Caravan or Cavani from dem PSG... They won't sell di maria.. . They are already in talks of getting debruyne for Wolfsburg

As for rafael. . am sure he's gone already... Di Maria is staying put. Mark my words
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:21am On Jul 14, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 10:23am On Jul 14, 2015
elampiro:
Be logical. Stop mentioning 22 games which spanned across 9 months.

We are talking about Rooney being played out of position in 5 out of 9 consecutive matches. From Madrid game to Villa game.

Same time SAF said Rooney and Kagawa might be rotated in the number 10. Rooney was having his best time in number 10 when suddenly SAF had to use him for defensive duties while Kagawa played number 10.

Kagawa was number 10 in Madrid. Same against Villa,

There were also substitutions. It had nothing to do with RVP.
You are the only one being illogical. You can twist it whichever way you like. I've established all that i need to establish and it is clear to everybody now because that wasn't the first time Rooney was being used out of position consecutively.

If you like increase it to 7 games, i am done with this.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:26am On Jul 14, 2015
elampiro:
You are pointing to the fact that he unhappiness was not tied to the number 9 position Van Persie was playing.
his unhappiness was tied to number-9. the arrival of van persie demoted rooney. everything was taken away from rooney - including his penalty duties. van persie kept scoring, rooney's standard awoof goals from the penalty spot suddenly disappeared.

However Rooney had a good season, SAF had a massive squad and was determine to make everyone happy. Then Rooney had to go on subb and position rotation with Kagawa, Welbeck and Giggs.
rooney didn't have a good season.
if he did, he wouldn't have asked to leave the club. towards the end, he fell out of favour with SAF & he was chopping bench regularly. his importance & influence in the team diminished drastically.

This was despite Rooney having a good time in the hole at the time. He even finished with best assists record per minutes played in EPL that season.
all that didn't matter to SAF!
he wasn't going to be fooled again by rooney's form that comes in patches. rooney can score 20 goals in 10 games and then go dry for another 30 games......that was what lost us the title in the previous season.

rooney wasn't performing enough & SAF quickly addressed the matter before we lose ground to the teams chasing us. if we didn't sign van persie, rooney wouldn't have been taken off against west ham. RVP signing meant we didn't overdepend on rooney like it used to be.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:35am On Jul 14, 2015
hensben:
[s]You are nothing but a nitwit..Turan can play CM(Turkey national team), AMF and LMF(Atletico madrid) reason i said mou may play him in CM(beside matic) due to his aggressive play. Na today coaches begin switch player's position. your coach played valencia for RB last season. Iniesta and Turan are going to share AMF position for barca next season. cool..Simeone play 4 mifielders n two strikers due to his massive attack massive defense tactics, him nor dey play natural winger.[/s]
Shekpe alert.
More nonsense talk.

You don't know anything, but you are here forming technical analysis.

I won't bandy insults with a miserable cockroach like you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:37am On Jul 14, 2015
SailorXY:
Edison Cavani? just another on high wages who won't guarantee anything - - -

let's get Otamendi, sell Evans & forget the team like that, its big enough!

all the Gaitan & Cavani spices are not required.
I pray to heaven that transfer doesn't go through. Falcao 2.0

as you dey find suya reach no mean say you go dey cal nama your cousin. As urgent as it is to find a striker doesn't mean we should just get any old body around.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 10:40am On Jul 14, 2015
[quote author=StarBoard post=35843429][/quote]you see how foolish manure united (a.k.a cheating club) fans are. You strike off my post and you didn't give any point.
Effect of supporting manure united; pride with no football knowledge.
starboard you mumu i swear.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:42am On Jul 14, 2015
More... Man utd players

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:42am On Jul 14, 2015
StarBoard:
I pray to heaven that transfer doesn't go through. Falcao 2.0

as you dey find suya reach no mean say you go dey cal nama your cousin. As urgent as it is to find a striker doesn't mean we should just get any old body around.
louis saha is helping to convince lacazette to join man utd. his fee is around £22m. van gaal should sign this dude for fùck's sake.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 10:43am On Jul 14, 2015
Bastian is really enjoying his move like he had been waiting for the opportunity to come and he grabbed it with both hands.

Manchester United's Bastian Schweinsteiger says his injury woes are behind him

"Of course,I had a tough World Cup so after that I was injured until I think end of October" Schweinsteiger told MUTV

"Everything is fine now,I'm looking forward to giving my best for Manchester United and I'm really happy to be here."

" United is a big club with a lot of tradition and it's exactly what I wanted,We have the same philosophy."

"I'm here to win titles and that's what United is used to, too.I'm looking forward to playing in the jersey."

"It was one of my dreams in my career to be here in Manchester and play for United."

"I know him (Van Gaal),so it was a little bit easier,but it's not about him, it's more about the club"

"I think I've played twice at Old Trafford - it was always an unbelievable atmosphere."

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:46am On Jul 14, 2015
hensben:
[s]you see how foolish manure united (a.k.a cheating club) fans are. You strike off my post and you didn't give any point.
Effect of supporting manure united; pride with no football knowledge.
starboard you mumu i swear[/s].
continue.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:47am On Jul 14, 2015
coogar:
louis saha is helping to convince lacazette to join man utd. his fee is around £22m. van gaal should sign this dude for fùck's sake.
Don't really know the guy, to be honest.
Heard somethings about the dude but I hear he sent a tweet out the other day hinting about a move to Arsenal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:48am On Jul 14, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:53am On Jul 14, 2015
StarBoard:
Don't really know the guy, to be honest.
Heard somethings about the dude but I hear he sent a tweet out the other day hinting about a move to Arsenal.
he was offered to wenger for £21m, wenger believes the value is too much, he wants to pay £12m. lacazette scored 31 goals in 40 apps last season.

he's a rookie & that means he wouldn't mind sitting on the bench for the elephant in the room(no pun intended). if we get lacazette, we may win the treble. he's by far the purest finisher in europe. harry kane has nothing on lacazette!
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 10:54am On Jul 14, 2015
This is hilarious. The wolf of Old Trafford - ft Ed Woodward.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdMFz-W5HaA
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:01am On Jul 14, 2015
More pics pls...Depay and Shaw tho!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:06am On Jul 14, 2015
coogar:
his unhappiness was tied to number-9. the arrival of van persie demoted rooney. everything was taken away from rooney - including his penalty duties. van persie kept scoring, rooney's standard awoof goals from the penalty spot suddenly disappeared.



rooney didn't have a good season.
if he did, he wouldn't have asked to leave the club. towards the end, he fell out of favour with SAF & he was chopping bench regularly. his importance & influence in the team diminished drastically.



all that didn't matter to SAF!
he wasn't going to be fooled again by rooney's form that comes in patches. rooney can score 20 goals in 10 games and then go dry for another 30 games......that was what lost us the title in the previous season.

rooney wasn't performing enough & SAF quickly addressed the matter before we lose ground to the teams chasing us. if we didn't sign van persie, rooney wouldn't have been taken off against west ham. RVP signing meant we didn't overdepend on rooney like it used to be.
You are funny. How can you say someone who scored 27 goals lost us the title in 2011/12? You have taken your hatred towards Rooney to a new height. Rooney was highest scorer in the league per minutes played.

We lost the titles in 2010 and 2012 basically due to injuries together with :

SAF joked with some matches. In 2012 he benched Rooney against Blackburn. He tested Scholes against Wigan /Newcastle. In 2010 He benched Nani and Carrick against Chelsea with Bayern Munich in sight. A league decisive game with few matches to end the season. A win for United would have ended the season.
All I know is Rooney had a good season in 2012/13 considering he rose up to the challenge to carry the team when RVP went 10 or more matches without scoring. That was when we went on a huge gap at the top over City and set the stage for unassailable lead.
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