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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 2:32pm On Jul 30, 2015
mathys:
Calm down ojare. I dey refer to arsnal not u guys.

Abi,I commit crime to support adelana?

Please avoid using the n-word . Tx
I for fear, I go try
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:34pm On Jul 30, 2015
nyabinghi:
the same smalling that panics on the ball, smalling is the worst passer of the ball wrt defenders in united's history. can you please post some mentions about jones when he was signed and the first two seasons.
Which Smalling? Maybe the one of two seasons ago. Not the one from last season. If u watched 80% of our matches last season, Smalling was our best CB. Jones was terrible all season last season
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 2:46pm On Jul 30, 2015
dopeJemi:
I don't see blind in our final third leading the attack, do you?
And your attack is better than that of Chelsea?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 2:55pm On Jul 30, 2015
bigkesh:
And your attack is better than that of Chelsea?
And y'all had to park the bus twice against us


Let's wait till may please
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:03pm On Jul 30, 2015
coogar:
jones is liability!
he has the football sense of a maggot! he cannot read the game. it's like watching a dog chase after a tennis ball. he has no idea on how the ball will bounce or where it will go or read the trajectory of the ball. he would just chase the ball like a brainless zombie. it's a travesty that he plays for our club. he should be shipped out immediately. he's the worst defender in the history of man utd.
How elampiro and nyabinghi see Jones as a player still fit to wear a United jersey let alone be first team material is beyond me. At first he felt like the real deal. But now its just being ridiculous if anyone thinks he's our nxt Vidic
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 3:18pm On Jul 30, 2015
I saw jones jonsing... grin grin


De gea be like... shocked grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:21pm On Jul 30, 2015
afrodoc2:
worse than silvestre? grin

Jones is still repeating the same mistakes from previous seasons and even i am getting tired of his stagnation.
However if Smalling is to supplant him in LVG's assessment he (Smalling) has to improve his on the ball skills cos its obvious that ability on the ball plays a big role in LVG's CB decisions ( hence the insistence on a left footed CB).
these LvG obsessions with left foot right foot thingy is tiring! what concerns anyone if it's LHD or RHD?? if you be good driver just drive the damn car undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 3:27pm On Jul 30, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
How elampiro and nyabinghi see Jones as a player still fit to wear a United jersey let alone be first team material is beyond me. At first he felt like the real deal. But now its just being ridiculous if anyone thinks he's our nxt Vidic
you said he felt like the real deal, now he seems a liability abi. Now post gifs of his gaffes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 3:28pm On Jul 30, 2015
Spy360:
hqhqhqhqhqqqqq!

Chai! This one na book of Lamentations chapter M vs U. Hehehe una go hear am this season. Manure. cheesy

Upon all the £283million wey una spend still una dey lament. cheesy shame.
If na Chelsea spend this kind money still dey lament or planning to spend more, Raumdeuter for don yab us taya, Infact, he'll be having a picnic on our thread smileycheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 4:32pm On Jul 30, 2015
Chelseafan1:
If na Chelsea spend this kind money still dey lament or planning to spend more, Raumdeuter for don yab us taya, Infact, he'll be having a picnic on our thread smileycheesy
dats because he knows that most of dem there r m.o.r.o.n.s....

Here na roasting ground for anybody wey no wan respect hinsefhuh
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 4:39pm On Jul 30, 2015
VAN GAAL CONFIRMS PREFERRED FORMATION

Louis van Gaal has confirmed he intends to use a 4-3-3 formation with Manchester United in the new Barclays Premier League season.

The Reds appeared to operate with a system resembling 4-2-3-1 on Tour 2015 presented by Aon as Memphis Depay performed in a no.10 role behind centre-forward Wayne Rooney with Ashley Young and Juan Mata on the flanks. However, it would seem from the manager's latest comments that he sees the position occupied in pre-season by his fellow Dutchman as being part of the midfield three.

"That the midfielder is [sometimes] in front of the striker is not bad because I think you do need variation in your attack," said van Gaal, in a press conference following the final tour match against PSG.

"I like that and I ask for that, especially from Memphis. It can also be Carrick or Schweinsteiger or Schneiderlin once in a while but mostly Memphis. It depends on our opponents."

When asked which formation he will deploy in the Barclays Premier League, van Gaal replied: "More or less 4-3-3. We played that already last season, in the second half of the season, and I have said that is the system I want to use. We played in our shape [on tour] and played how we have to play. That's also where I have been very satisfied.”

From a tactical perspective, the key is probably the attacking central midfield position where Memphis, Adnan Januzaj and Andreas Pereira were stationed at various times in the United States. There could also be an opportunity for Juan Mata or Ander Herrera to prove their suitability to play alongside more defensive-minded colleagues such as Michael Carrick, Bastian Schweinsteiger and Morgan Schneiderlin.

Memphis, who is also a candidate for the wider roles in the front three, has been entrusted with the job in each of the four starting line-ups in the US and could be considered the favourite to start there against Tottenham
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 4:52pm On Jul 30, 2015
lekkie073:
dats because he knows that most of dem there r m.o.r.o.n.s....

Here na roasting ground for anybody wey no wan respect hinsefhuh
lool....he personally stated that most of y'all United fans are very intelligent, so hin no fit yab una.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 4:54pm On Jul 30, 2015
wink Eh na now him come


433 is the deal... With memphis rooney and mata infront

Schneiderlin Bastian and Herrera in the middle

Rugged
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:13pm On Jul 30, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
wink Eh na now him come


433 is the deal... With memphis rooney and mata infront

Schneiderlin Bastian and Herrera in the middle

Rugged
If that article is true then LVG might be a bit confused. Why play an obvious 4-2-3-1 throughout preseason when you are going to play 4-3-3 in the EPL?

Also if it is going to be a 4-3-3 why play Depay in the midfield 3 when his skill set is better utilized in the attacking 3 preferably at LWF?

I hope this won't be a second successive season of wasting the entire preseason on impracticable formations and player selections?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 5:24pm On Jul 30, 2015
afrodoc2:
If that article is true then LVG might be a bit confused. Why play an obvious 4-2-3-1 throughout preseason when you are going to play 4-3-3 in the EPL?

Also if it is going to be a 4-3-3 why play Depay in the midfield 3 when his skill set is better utilized in the attacking 3 preferably at LWF?

I hope this won't be a second successive season of wasting the entire preseason on impracticable formations and player selections?
✔ ✔

Memphis will join mata and rooney at the attack

If you read the article well you'll get the view

Maybe he didn't want to use the 433 formation during the pre stuffs... You know his clamouring for creative players upfront.... Maybe he's got the target pinned down... Doc lets wait untill the season kicks off.. .. Of what i have seen, mata has cemented his position in the starting 11

433 last season helped us alot.... we created good chances mid season with.. It . Our problem was the cdm position and attack.... Now we've filled the cdm position.... We need a very lethal striker or attacker.. [winger] ✔ With that, we will grab lots of goals. .. .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jul 30, 2015
Bimffo:
Is that why you don't wanna buy a defender?
i have a surprise
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:04pm On Jul 30, 2015
nyabinghi:
you said he felt like the real deal, now he seems a liability abi. Now post gifs of his gaffes.
I no sabi post gifs. If not, i for get plenty show u.

Go rewatch United vs Liverpool(3-0) at Old Trafford last season. And go see how Jones played Sterling tthru on his own goal. We were just lucky Sterling missed the ensuing 1-on-1
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
AdeLaNa1:
How elampiro and nyabinghi see Jones as a player still fit to wear a United jersey let alone be first team material is beyond me. At first he felt like the real deal. But now its just being ridiculous if anyone thinks he's our nxt Vidic
You con knock for my door oh [oya]
I done open oh [oya]
The thing wey you dey find oh [oya]
You go see am oh [oya]
I say if I dey run before oh [oya]
I no run anymore [oya]
To gree say na rock and run away [oya]
Na make we for rock another day


grin

grin Actually, I don't watch these matches. I download only highlights. 4-5 mins highlight, then later I download much longer ones to relax.

I am coming let me state some of my observations as to your concerns.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:35pm On Jul 30, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
✔ ✔

Memphis will join mata and rooney at the attack

If you read the article well you'll get the view

Maybe he didn't want to use the 433 formation during the pre stuffs... You know his clamouring for creative players upfront.... Maybe he's got the target pinned down... Doc lets wait untill the season kicks off.. .. Of what i have seen, mata has cemented his position in the starting 11

433 last season helped us alot.... we created good chances mid season with.. It . Our problem was the cdm position and attack.... Now we've filled the cdm position.... We need a very lethal striker or attacker.. [winger] ✔ With that, we will grab lots of goals. .. .
I believe i understand what he was trying to say but it all does not come together to make sense.

1) You plan to play 4-3-3 during the season but play 4-2-3-1 during preseason

2) If u plan to play Depay in front 3 during the season why are you playing him centrally behind the striker throughout preseason.

3) If you plan to play Depay in midfield 3 during the season then that is a misuse of his skill set.

The debate on Mata's best position is for another day but not RWF in my opinion.

The summary is there does not appear to be a coherent and consistent train of thought to LVG's "philosophy".
I have activated a siddon look approach until the transfer window closes before making a comprehensive assessment of our chances this season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 7:44pm On Jul 30, 2015
Of the two missing Argentines, one is back in Manchester and that is Marcos Rojo. I think he should be arrested and questioned for leads where Di Maria is hiding.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tvegas(m): 7:45pm On Jul 30, 2015
grin cheesy grin
See how guys are vexing because we lost a match. When we beat Barcelona all I heard was Depay is a beast, Perreira Is a ghost etc.etc.

Irrespective of results coming from the preseason United still need to plug holes in CD and CF. This is quite obvious and I hope LVG can see what y'all seeing,enough of the philosophies.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:59pm On Jul 30, 2015
Tvegas:
grin cheesy grin
See how guys are vexing because we lost a match. When we beat Barcelona all I heard was Depay is a beast, Perreira Is a ghost etc.etc.

Irrespective of results coming from the preseason United still need to plug holes in CD and CF. This is quite obvious and I hope LVG can see what y'all seeing,enough of the philosophies.
I think the vex is mainly cos the glaring deficiencies at CB have still not been addressed and this is compounded by the wasted time and effort put into chasing Sergio Ramos.

Blind might look good at CB until he goes through 1 month of marking Benteke followed by Costa,Lukaku and Harry Kane.
We need size,strength and leadership at the back.

There are still several positives from this preseason

Depay still looks like a beast and he will show several clubs pepper this season.

Shaw and Darmian looking very good.

Perreira showing real promise.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):

1. Our Centre backs (Jones and Blind) played too apart from each other. Centre backs are supposed to stay together always or almost all the time. I saw the two guys apart in highligh against Barca and the goals of PSG.

2. The four men at the back lack understanding. They didn't know how to play a same line offside trap. This actually was the reason we conceded the first goal. Contrary to what people think, it was not Jones fault but Shaw and Blind who kept two PSG players onside. At the end one is forced to ask who Blind was marking and why he left a big hole in the Middle while he knew the offside line was not drawn.

3. The pictures explain number 2 above.

4. Jones took his eyes off Ibrahimovic for the second PSG goal. Jones likes to anticipate a pass and intercept but he got this very wrong at the wrong place. May be it's a mistake and his lack of plenty matches in the position is taking a toll.

Again, I think the two CBs were apart somewhat. Ibrahimovic wouldn't find such an easy space in Chelsea's back.

5. Generally, it was a match between a team in process and a team that has been together. This same team played 10 men against Chelsea at the Bridge and were able to score from two free headers.

6. Our back lines has to decide whether to play high or deep. Blind lacks speed, so it's better to play deep and right together like Terry and Cahil. May be if we saw Smalling and Blind, it would have been easier to draw the line.





Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:07pm On Jul 30, 2015
elampiro:

1. Our Centre backs (Jones and Blind) played too apart from each other. Centre backs are supposed to stay together always or almost all the time. I saw the two guys apart in highligh against Barca and the goals of PSG.

2. The four men at the back lack understanding. They didn't know how to play a same line offside trap. This actually was the reason we conceded the first goal. Contrary to what people think, it was not Jones fault but Shaw and Blind who kept two PSG players inside. At the end one is forced to ask who Blind was marking and why he left a big hole in the Middle while he knew the offside line was not drawn.

3. The pictures explain number 2 above.

4. Jones took his eyes off Ibrahimovic for the second PSG goal. Jones likes to anticipate a pass and intercept but he got this very wrong at the wrong place. May be it's a mistake and his lack of plenty matches in the position is taking a toll.

Again, I think the two CBs were apart somewhat. Ibrahimovic wouldn't find such an easy space in Chelsea's back.

5. Generally, it was a match between a team in process and a team that has been together. This same team played 10 men against Chelsea at the Bridge and were able to score from two free headers.

6. Our back lines has to decide whether to play high or deep. Blind lacks speed, so it's better to play deep and right together like Terry and Cahil. May be if we saw Smalling and Blind, it would have been easier to draw the line.





I didnt see the 1st goal but most analysts blamed Jones.

2nd goal was mainly due to Jones. He was near Zlatan but instead of staying with him he just ran back into the box marking nobody.....that was a stupid mistake.

I expect to see Smalling and Blind start against Spurs, Jones has demoted himself in my opinion.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tvegas(m): 8:12pm On Jul 30, 2015
afrodoc2:
I think the vex is mainly cos the glaring deficiencies at CB have still not been addressed and this is compounded
I feel you. Getting a CB shouldn't be taking this long. LVG should know that further experimentation with Blind will backfire big time.

How can you rotate a guy in 3 different positions within 2 seasons and expect him to succeed? Blind came as a DMF then he went to LB now he wanna proceed to CB? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
afrodoc2:
I didnt see the 1st goal but most analysts blamed Jones.

2nd goal was mainly due to Jones. He was near Zlatan but instead of staying with him he just ran back into the box marking nobody.....that was a stupid mistake.

I expect to see Smalling and Blind start against Spurs, Jones has demoted himself in my opinion.
First goal was not Jones fault. Blind is to blame.

Pic 1. Jones returning from PSG final third. He was running back to position. See him at the edge of arc of the centre circle in PSG's half. . Ideally, Blind should be in the middle.

Pic 2. Three seconds later he Jones finds out that Blind has left a huge gap in the middle. Jones was now in the edge of the arc of the Centre circle in our half. Meanwhile, Blind was marking no one. Was Blind scared of being exposed? Did he deliberately dodged his responsibility?



Yes, Smalling can start. That doesn't bother me. Whoever plays. But with time our bakcline will strike an understanding. But Smalling and Jones were our best pair last season.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:48pm On Jul 30, 2015
As for Gaal,

I think he cannot differentiate between 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1. Or he is lazy about it. The problem has to do with where he categorizes his AM.

His DM,CM,AM are his middle three. the others are front three. That is what I can deduce from the write up posted above. You guys can take the pain to read it again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:11pm On Jul 30, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
✔ ✔

Memphis will join mata and rooney at the attack

If you read the article well you'll get the view

Maybe he didn't want to use the 433 formation during the pre stuffs... You know his clamouring for creative players upfront.... Maybe he's got the target pinned down... Doc lets wait untill the season kicks off.. .. Of what i have seen, mata has cemented his position in the starting 11

433 last season helped us alot.... we created good chances mid season with.. It . Our problem was the cdm position and attack.... Now we've filled the cdm position.... We need a very lethal striker or attacker.. [winger] ✔ With that, we will grab lots of goals. .. .
honestly LvG will be a FOOL to start benching Herrera again. he should make a choice between Schweinsteiger & Carrick to join Schneiderlin & Herrera in the midfield -3-.

his selections baffle many times & its becoming unnerving, we dropped some points last season cuz of brainless selections & substitutions but he got the pass & I'm sure he knows why.

walahi talahi he must not try those mad scientist stunts this season!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 9:15pm On Jul 30, 2015
SailorXY:
honestly LvG will be a FOOL to start benching Herrera again. he should make a choice between Schweinsteiger & Carrick to join Schneiderlin & Herrera in the midfield -3-.

his selections baffle many times & its becoming unnerving, we dropped some points last season cuz of brainless selections & substitutions but he got the pass & I'm sure he knows why.

walahi talahi he must not try those mad scientist stunts this season!
Herrera na boss for midfield
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 9:55pm On Jul 30, 2015
afrodoc2:
I didnt see the 1st goal but most analysts blamed Jones.

2nd goal was mainly due to Jones. He was near Zlatan but instead of staying with him he just ran back into the box marking nobody.....that was a stupid mistake.

I expect to see Smalling and Blind start against Spurs, Jones has demoted himself in my opinion.
My fear is that the partnership could actually be LVG's preferred option for the season (considering his "refusal" to sign a CB).

Darmian....Smalling...Blind...Shaw (Rojo)

Lawd - this is the kinda setup synonymous with clubs like Everton, West Ham & the likes!

I hope this man knows what he's doing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 10:06pm On Jul 30, 2015
Dadehmola:
My fear is that the partnership could actually be LVG's preferred option for the season (considering his "refusal" to sign a CB).

Darmian....Smalling...Blind...Shaw (Rojo)

Lawd - this is the kinda setup synonymous with clubs like Everton, West Ham & the likes!

I hope this man knows what he's doing.
That doesn't bother me cos he's aware of what awaits him, sack, which he also said. He's not coaching assnal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheUmmah: 10:08pm On Jul 30, 2015
grin

This should be van gaals starting line up in a 433 formation! Angel di maria is gone so no need 2 debate his matter!


Pedro/young Rooney Depay

Mata/herrera

Bastian Schneiderlin

Shaw Rojo Otamendi dramain

De gea


I believe rojo is more rugged and technical than smalling and he is left footed! Otamendi will join us so no shaking! Smalling and jones are average english gbefs with injury problems so they should be backup! If we head into our 1st ten matches this way, we will have a solid start 2 the season!
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