patches689:


1. saudi and french vessels operat the SAME system
2. Buyers requirements are subject to revision and change depending on a pelthora of reasons

Post his testimony all you want - it doesnt change the fact that it is BIASED

The fact is that the international Naval community has given the system its stamp of approval

Again i ask, obsolete compared to what?

In Nigeria, we have a "saying" in Pidgin English.



Patrick "you dey fall my hand".


Boy, I know it hurts you, but your Frigates are obsolete. I've provided multiple facts, indisputable facts! You've done nothing and provided no proof to dispute the facts.

Fact is your boat is crap!

patches689:


Counter evidence: Charles De Gaulle, La Fayette Frigates (5), F1000 Air-Defence Frigate (3)

Obsolete compared to what?

No technical details available for any of them. However, those of the SA Navy are, and they all show facts that are clear your Frigates are obsolete.

Only Armscor knows how many Project Hotel tenders were submitted.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40176:only-armscor-knows-how-many-project-hotel-tenders-were-submitted&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106

"The tender closing date for submissions for Project Hotel was extended by two months because of the complexity of the project, which involves not only building a new hydrographic vessel but also ancillary equipment to make the new platform part of a full hydrographic system.

The will see the selected tenderer deliver a pair of inshore survey motorboats integrated with the new hydrographic vessel, a sea boat, a hangar flight deck arrangement for a medium-sized maritime helicopter as well as an upgrade to the shore-based hydrographic offices and infrastructure at Silvermine. A spare motorboat, fully equipped and operationally qualified, is the final component of the Project Hotel tender."

jln115:

Opinions don't = facts Henry, no matter how much you want it to be.

His claims were demolished during the Seriti commissioned! evidence have been provided multiple times.

Facts backed by cold evidence.

Your boats are obsolete with a defective combat suite.

Henry120:


Facts backed by cold evidence.

Your boats are obsolete with a defective combat suite.

Nope!! Claims from 1 man that have been demolished during the Seriti commission.

Henry120:


In Nigeria, we have a "saying" in Pidgin English.



Patrick "you dey fall my hand".


Boy, I know it hurts you, but your Frigates are obsolete. I've provided multiple facts, indisputable facts! You've done nothing and provided no proof to dispute the facts.

Fact is your boat is crap!

You have provided ZERO facts. Only biased testemony from a man who got obliaterated on the stand.

Tell me Henry120, are all the Admirals and Technical staff of the South Africa, French and Saudi Navies wrong?

Or is the one man arguing against the whole community wrong?

Our Frigates are obsolete? Obsolete compared to what?
Our Frigates are crap? Crap compared to what?

You come here and insult our frigates like you have something better

Henry120:


No technical details available for any of them. However, those of the SA Navy are, and they all show facts that are clear your Frigates are obsolete.

All those vessels have the same combat suite - thus counter evidence: Charles De Gaulle, La Fayette Frigates, F100 Air-Defence Frigates

Obsolete compared to what?

Patchesagain:


All those vessels have the same combat suite - thus counter evidence: Charles De Gaulle, La Fayette Frigates, F100 Air-Defence Frigates

Obsolete compared to what?

Prove it boy, where are the technical details?


We know the technical details of your Frigates, and they are obsolete.

Henry120:


Facts backed by cold evidence.

Your boats are obsolete with a defective combat suite.

Testimony =/= Evidence

How are they obsolete? Compared to what are they obsolete?

Defective combat suite? Are you saying the Charles De Gaulle, La Fayette Frigates and F100 Air-Defence Frigates have defective combat suites?

Patchesagain:


You have provided ZERO facts. Only biased testemony from a man who got obliaterated on the stand.

Tell me Henry120, are all the Admirals and Technical staff of the South Africa, French and Saudi Navies wrong?

Or is the one man arguing against the whole community wrong?

Our Frigates are obsolete? Obsolete compared to what?
Our Frigates are crap? Crap compared to what?

You come here and insult our frigates like you have something better

How am i insulting your Frigates?

jln115:

Nope!! Claims from 1 man that have been demolished during the Seriti commission.

Why don't you provide this counter evidence?

jln115:

Nope!! Claims from 1 man that have been demolished during the Seriti commission.

Henry120 seems to think that Dr Young knows more than the French, Saudi and South African Navies combined.

He also doesnt seem to have a very good grasp of how Comissions/Trials work

Henry120:


How am i insulting your Frigates?

1. you said they were obsolete
2. you said they are crap

Now, tell us:

1. They are obsolete in comparison to what?
2. They are crap in comparison to what?

By what standard are you defining "obsolete" and "crap"? Are you comparing them to something in YOUR navy? Are you comparing them to an AEGIS equipped destroyer?

Henry120:


Why don't you provide this counter evidence?

Because we dont need to, Dr Young's cross examination is available on the Sereti website

He got destroyed so badly that he stalled for 2 weeks and finally refused to continue his testimony

This is the guy your are basing your argument on?

hahahahahaha

Patchesagain:


Because we dont need to, Dr Young's cross examination is available on the Sereti website

He got destroyed so badly that he stalled for 2 weeks and finally refused to continue his testimony

This is the guy your are basing your argument on?

hahahahahaha

Your Ships are obsolete.

Henry120:


Your Ships are obsolete.

hahahaha!!

This is your response?

You only finding out now that your magical god of information got so badly wrecked on the stand that he refused to continue his testimony?

Now answer my questions:

Obsolete compared to what?

is the Charles De Gaulle, La Fayette Frigates and F100 Air-Defence Frigates obsolete too?

Henry120:


Why don't you provide this counter evidence?

Because Patches has provided evidence on multiple occasions!

Patchesagain:


Henry120 seems to think that Dr Young knows more than the French, Saudi and South African Navies combined.

He also doesnt seem to have a very good grasp of how Comissions/Trials work

Or how time/dates/years work for that matter.

Henry120:

Your Ships are obsolete.

What a weak argument. Bwahaha…

Henry120:


Your Ships are obsolete.

this Henry character is a dreamer ...struu!

mzilakazi:


There is. I knew about quota day early in school when I was still at primary level. An old granny like you still does not know that a year takes 365.25 days.

Well, even if we were to add those quota days to make up a day, surely in 31st Dec of 2008 from the 1st of Jan 2005 it will still make 0.75 day until the 31st day of 2008 pass over to the 1st of Jan 2009 to make a full day which will eventually complete 4 years.

NO,,,
The earth rotates 365days,6hours.. 1 day is 24hours so 6/24=1/4 or 0.25...any time on 1st Jan 2009 could be 10 p.m which is already MORE than 365.25days... So to be accurate passover is 31dec. at 12:00=365days.. the 6hrs(1/4) is ignored and summed up(Leap) to 4years which is Feb 29th a full day,,,why is your country using 1-31,if you say its 1-1,,

ACCORDING TO YOU::
1/1/2005-31/12/2005 =365.25,,
1/1/2006-31/12/2006 = 365.25,,
1/1/2007-31/12/2007= 365.25
1/1/2008-31/12/2008= 365.25
If this is how it is,,WHY DO WE HAVE LEAP YEAR??
SUMMARY:::
COMMON YEAR =365days NOT 365.25 and
LEAP YEAR = 365+0.25+0.25+0.25+0.25=366days,,,do you understand??
*This is elementary and am Not an old Granny,, the appropriate word is quarter..

*I hope you are not the one that banned me 'cos whoever did it is a coward..,,,
*I see you're limiting your insults already,, good boy..

shizzy7:
NO,,,
The earth rotates 365days,6hours.. 1 day is 24hours so 6/24=1/4 or 0.25...any time on 1st Jan 2009 could be 10 p.m which is already MORE than 365.25days... So to be accurate passover is 31dec. at 12:00=365days.. the 6hrs(1/4) is ignored and summed up(Leap) to 4years which is Feb 29th a full day,,,why is your country using 1-31,if you say its 1-1,,

ACCORDING TO YOU::
1/1/2005-31/12/2005 =365.25,,
1/1/2006-31/12/2006 = 365.25,,
1/1/2007-31/12/2007= 365.25
1/1/2008-31/12/2008= 365.25
If this is how it is,,WHY DO WE HAVE LEAP YEAR??
SUMMARY:::
COMMON YEAR =365days NOT 365.25 and
LEAP YEAR = 365+0.25+0.25+0.25+0.25=366days,,,do you understand??
*This is elementary and am Not an old Granny,, the appropriate word is quarter..

*I hope you are not the one that banned me 'cos whoever did it is a coward..,,,
*I see you're limiting your insults already,, good boy..

Let me correct you it is like this.

01/01/2005 to 01/01/2006= 365.25 days. So just correct the mess because if you put it to 31/12/2008 is not yet a year until the time is 00H00 midnight of 01/01/2006.

mzilakazi:



Let me correct you it is like this.

01/01/2005 to 01/01/2006= 365.25 days. So just correct the mess because if you put it to 31/12/2008 is not yet a year until the time is 00H00 midnight of 01/01/2006.

if we have 365.25days then there would be NOTHING LIKE LEAP YEAR.. You said::
common year is 365.25 days,,
Leap year is 366 days,,, that's a serious case of double counting,,, I had to go back and check other posts,,,

CONCLUSION:::: you don't even know what a leap year is or why we have a leap year every 4years period..

mzilakazi:



Wrong again. a common year has 365 and quota day, you retardedd damned fool and leap year has full 366 days.

One year is like this 365.25 days.



http://pumas.jpl.nasa.gov/examples/index.php?id=46

I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED ARGUING WITH YOU HERE. 'COS YOU DON'T NOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN a common and Leap year..

shizzy7:
I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED ARGUING WITH YOU HERE. 'COS YOU DON'T NOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN a common and Leap year..

IN CONCLUSION YOU CAN NEVER STRESS THAT FROM 2005 TO 2008 IS A FOUR YEAR DURATION. WITH REGULAR YEARS WE START TO COUNT FROM THE NEXT YEAR ONWARDS. FINISH AND KLAAR.

OH LEAP YEARS COMES EVERY FOURTH YEAR.

FOR EG: 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 ETC.

mzilakazi:


IN CONCLUSION YOU CAN NEVER STRESS THAT FROM 2005 TO 2008 IS A FOUR YEAR DURATION. WITH REGULAR YEARS WE START TO COUNT FROM THE NEXT YEAR ONWARDS. FINISH AND KLAAR.

OH LEAP YEARS COMES EVERY FOURTH YEAR.

FOR EG: 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 ETC.

Finally!!! 2008 is a leap year so 1jan 2005- 31dec2008 is exactly 4/Four years...„
**A common year = 365days,,,
**A solar year = 365.25 that's why I said "scientifically" in one of my post.. its not used in reality,,
**A leap year = 366 days...

http://www.convertunits.com/dates/from/Jan+1,+2005/to/Dec+31,+2008-use this date calculator,,,

MY Point -- its Not only in Nigeria that 2005 - 2008=4years,,,2017-2020=4years e.t.c.

mzilakazi:


It doesn't matter, years or ages are counted the same.

If I commission one ship on the 1st of Dec 2010 and another on the 3rd of January 2011. That will not be 2years. It will be two Months time. Mumu-Foool-Stupido.

All over the world, as a standard, ships commissioning is recorded in year dates not moths you fool.

Your example above will be historically recoded as 2010 and 2011....2 years, not as December and January.

You ever seen a ships commissioning history dates recorded in months with the year dates missing? Fool

patches689:


- south African, French, saudi vessels all use the SAME combat suite
- obsolete compared to what?

The French and Saudi ships with those old combat suites have been replaced in front line role by ships like FREMM frigate, only Sourh Africa has 30 year old equipment and 40 year old second hand gun on your front line warships.
.

Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS THIS IS A NEW VIDEO OF BOKO HARAM AND SHAME TO YOU.....SEE THE DATE OF THE ATTACHMENT....ITS THERE IN THE BBC AS WELL ...FOR ARGUMENTATIVE SAKE PROVIDE PROOF THAT THIS IS OLD

http://ginjaland.com/article/boko-haram-releases-new-video-shows-off-weapons-beheading

Provide proof that the video is Nigeria. Boko Haram is beheading people in Cameroon. Just this week, 130 Cameroonians have been kidnapped by Boko Haram.

Show us proof that video is Nigeria, show us proof that it is not the video of Boko Haram behaeding other Boko Harams who refused to fight and wanted to surrender to Nigeria's new government as was published in news reports last month
.