Ultimatesammie:

Haaa Thank u for making a valia point d no teamwork dere pisses me nd d use of brain in combat is not just applicable to d characters, an OP character is fighting an enemy nd his attacks are not working wud still continue doin d same thing over nd over nd over again its annoying a naruto character wud start analysing d person's ability look 4 possible weakness he or she might hv So many OP characters dont use brain at all (at least some1 like trafalgar Law is helping at dat).
Secondly as great as OP is its not without fault like other animes too with d way OP fans are criticising it I once said dat d concept of pain is lost in OP u see in some other animes a stab wound from a knife or sword or a bullet wound can cause great damage in OP a character can get stabbed multiple times nd all dat wud happen is dat he wud get bandaged nd start jumping up nd down or in some cases start fighting as if nothing took place, I can safely say dat if it was in OP dat some1 like Neji or asuma or even netero in hxh had dat kind of wound or damage dey had all they would hv needed is bandage all around their body den sleep 4 like 2 or 3 days and all would be back to normal.

Yes..this. When I watch them fight I don't fear for any of the characters. Even usopp and nami who are weaklings are sure to win their fights...you don't fear for them, cos...nakama power. Who in their right minds would leave usopp to a well seasoned pirate to face off? But nakama power so......yeaaaaah!

kimco:


The problem isn't he winning fights as much as he being the one facing them. But upto where I stopped watching, luffy was defeating every bad guy he was faced with. That was episode 300+. 300+ episodes with nothing of substance happening. Against cp9 fighters[b] the guy kept being beaten and he kept coming back till he won the final fight. What a chore it was to watch.[I remember anoda fight where he won (same boooring way) [/b] and zorro had one guy transfer the pain into him instead, bit by bit, and luffy was okay drinking and dancing and zorro who was in a bad shape himself before taking in luffy's extreme pain actually got to "live and tell the story " I stopped right there.

I watch most shounen manga for the action cos let's face it, their plots are average (good ones are good, not great but good enough, like hunter x hunter, fma: brotherhood is great though)

Maybe things have changed for the better, I din't know, but I won't waste my time trying to find out.

Naruto did this throughout in the Manga, vs Sasuke, vs Nagato, Gaara e.t.c
Kenichi does this in History Strongest disciple.
Ah Gou in Feng Shen Ji, I can go on and on, it's a norm. If you wanna see a better storyline change the genre of anime you watch. If it's one piece vs Naruto, one piece wins; other characters get screen time and they develop well far better than in Naruto.

kimco:


Yes..this. When I watch them fight I don't fear for any of the characters. Even usopp and nami who are weaklings are sure to win their fights...you don't fear for them, cos...nakama power. Who in their right minds would leave usopp to a well seasoned pirate to face off? But nakama power so......yeaaaaah!

Sadly that's because kishi only developed Sasuke and Naruto after the Chuunin exam. Sasuke even got powered up just by sitting in a dark room blindfolded

Funny enough Usopp is a sniper and a coward. He tries as much as possible not to have a face off with any strong opponent.

Twisting:

Naruto did this throughout in the Manga, vs Sasuke, vs Nagato, Gaara e.t.c
Kenichi does this in History Strongest disciple.
Ah Gou in Feng Shen Ji, I can go on and on, it's a norm. If you wanna see a better storyline change the genre of anime you watch. If it's one piece vs Naruto, one piece wins; other characters get screen time and they develop well far better than in Naruto.

Even though I must admit naruto isn't better on that front, he didn't do that against nagato man. He actually got beaten till he turned into a tailed beast. But the amount of nakama power ups in one piece is ridiculously higher than naruto. Any attempt to justify this is simply rationalisation at its best. I'm not a fan of shounen mangas that turn out this way. Also I don't need to change the genre to see different stuff, fma: brotherhood and hunter x hunter exist. Even attack on titan and to a small extent, sword art online season 1 part 1.

Man I would kill to have a story that focuses on gaara and villains like kakuzu and kisame. All round ruthless manga/anime, no more emotional crap.

Twisting:

Sadly that's because kishi only developed Sasuke and Naruto after the Chuunin exam. Sasuke even got powered up just by sitting in a dark room blindfolded

Oh u have no idea how much I hated the all mighty azzpull powerups during the ninja war. Naruto gained more power and stamina (the guy never run out of chakra) in a day than sarutobi gained in his entire ninja life.

Twisting:
Funny enough Usopp is a sniper and a coward. He tries as much as possible not to have a face off with any strong opponent.

Yesn but it happens anyways and he comes out victorious, when he really shouldn't and even then harddly any one bothers to go help him. It'll be better to tag team with the guy and atlleast fight 2 on 2 than leave him to fight someone who might be waaaaay out of his league.

kimco:

Yesn but it happens anyways and he comes out victorious, when he really shouldn't and even then harddly any one bothers to go help him. It'll be better to tag team with the guy and atlleast fight 2 on 2 than leave him to fight someone who might be waaaaay out of his league.

No one helped Gon while he was fighting Pitou, he even got an insane power up to be able to prevail re: Pitou was way outta Gon's league. Tell me who Usopp has fought that's way out of his league?

Twisting:

No one helped Gon while he was fighting Pitou, he even got an insane power up to be able to prevail re: Pitou was way outta Gon's league. Tell me who Usopp has fought that's way out of his league?

You mean the fact that he jeopardised his life just to gain an insane amout of power just for a short time so he could defeat pitou, with the nen turning his body into mashed yam and toxic to any one that tried to heal him? Yeah definitely the same as usopp's fight, totally comparable.

To answer your second question, almost every one he faced within the first 300+ episodes.

I know there was a cop out for gon when he got healed with no consequence to killua or anyone at all but in the manga's defence, they dedicated like 10 anime episodes to finding the cure for him. Had it been luffy a bandage would have done the trick with him jumping and eating and drinking the next scene. That's the difference.

kimco:


You mean the fact that he jeopardised his life just to gain an insane amout of power just for a short time so he could defeat pitou, with the nen turning his body into mashed yam and toxic to any one that tried to heal him? Yeah definitely the same as usopp's fight, totally comparable.

To answer your second question, almost every one he faced within the first 300+ episodes.

I know there was a cop out for gon when he got healed with no consequence to killua or anyone at all but in the manga's defence, they dedicated like 10 anime episodes to finding the cure for him. Had it been luffy a bandage would have done the trick with him jumping and eating and drinking the next scene. That's the difference.

LOL.
I don't watch animes but dedicating 10 anime episodes to finding cure for Gon wouldn't even be up to 3 Manga chapters. It's insignificant

I don't even know the base of this argument.

Twisting:

LOL.
I don't watch animes but dedicating 10 anime episodes to finding cure for Gon wouldn't even be up to 3 Manga chapters. It's insignificant

Sorry u got it wrong, it's actually the opposite of that. Why do you think there are fillers in anime? It was very significant. Twas like an arc on it own.

Twisting:
I don't even know the base of this argument.

I think u r trying to defend op in a naruto thread. That's the bases

kimco:


Sorry u got it wrong, it's actually the opposite of that. Why do you think there are fillers in anime? It was very significant. Twas like an arc on it own.

Nah,anime drags the storyline. That's why they have filler arcs.

kimco:

I think u r trying to defend op in a naruto thread. That's the bases

And you brought HxH in Naruto's defence. I think.

Twisting:

And you brought HxH in Naruto's defence. I think.

naa, I used hunter x hunter to show how lacking both animes are in plot and fight scenes. I guess we are both guilty of the same crime.

Twisting:

Nah,anime drags the storyline. That's why they have filler arcs.

Naa two manga chapters= one anime show. Fillers are to slow down the fast pace of the anime so that it doesn't meet up with the manga because you need more than 1 chapter for an anime.

kimco:


Naa two manga chapters= one anime show. Fillers are to slow down the fast pace of the anime so that it doesn't meet up with the manga because you need more than 1 chapter for an anime.

Yeah but if it's not in the Manga it's virtually irrelevant.

Twisting:

Nah,anime drags the storyline. That's why they have filler arcs.

LOOL. that thing can be annoying though.

naruto's daughter possesses d byakugan!!!!!

Seriously we need to end all One piece talks on this thread.

I love One Piece.
Got into Naruto early and followed it up while loving every bit of it for years, all the while having no idea One piece existed. 3 years ago, a friend recommended and shared One piece with me, having an open mind I delved into it, and got hooked. I kept looking forward to my nights of just laying back,eating supper and binge watching OP while in class having a lecture ( even the earliest episodes from Don Krieg to Along and the cr*ppy art was a cool enough). With promises of getting better, I didn't rush and skip, I just enjoyed an episode at a time.

And One piece became my No1 anime, there's just something about it I can't identify that makes it so special, and why its super loved. Ask any True OP fan, they can't really say why they love it ( its not just the story, there are many awesome animes with beautiful stories/plot).

After catching up to OP I watched and read H×H up to date,
Naruto
One Piece
HxH

^^following this trend, isn't HxH supposed to be my No1? , answer is 'no'
One Piece still takes up my whole heart, i still dig Naruto, but will chose OP over it anytime. One Piece has its flaws (lots of it) but its flaws makes it perfect. And if you're complaining about the Nakama ish, you haven't watched fairytail.

The companionship thingy in One Piece is natural, take a squad or platoon in a real life army, every member trains together, fight together, bleed together and face death together, its only natural that a strong bond will form amongst them. They will lookout for one another, protect one another and possibly take a bullet for one another. when all is hopeless, they retreat ( Sabaody Archipelago, Luffy gave the order for the SH to flee, when fighting a losing battle against Kizaru and Kuma).
The same bond applies with SH crew, they're practically family , and families believes and protect one another.

Everyone should ask themselves this, 'When one of your family member is threatened, kidnapped or hurt by someone else, won't you fight for that family member, protect him/her and go to the ends of the earth to rescue em at any cost

When Luffy figures out that his defeat will mean the death of the SH, drained of strength and energy he picks himself up and fights on with willpower alone ( same principle with mothers having their limiters removed and having herculean strength to lift off or stop a car that may hit or crush their babies that wandered onto a road).

To end this post, let's all just have a roster..
Y'all should post if you like/hate/indifferent to One piece.
this way, in the future we'll know who to direct our post concerning OP to

SageNaruto:
naruto's daughter possesses d byakugan!!!!!

One hit, one coma.
I hope she's a genius, I miss Neji.
I wonder what colour her irises are....
Anyway, with Sasuke, he can deactivate his Rinne at will because it's his unlike Pein's or Kakashi's doujutsu.
So the likelihood of deactivation is high...
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Heh heh... what a way to wake Dad up... *snickers*


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Boruto, the Manga.

SageNaruto:
naruto's daughter possesses d byakugan!!!!!

This settles that earlier argument then...

Twisting:

Yeah but if it's not in the Manga it's virtually irrelevant.

So you can imagine them having to add things ( not filler) to prolong each episode yet still cover two manga pages and have to resort to fillers to widen the gap again and again.

nani667:

Who ar these beauties?

Kaycee7:
Who ar these beauties?

The 1st one is Akame frm Akame ga kiru d second is Mikasa frm shingeki no kyojin.They are 2 badass females.

Ultimatesammie:

The 1st one is Akame frm Akame ga kiru d second is Mikasa frm shingeki no kyojin.They are 2 badass females.

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