kimco:

OP scenerio of teamwork:

Zorro: hey nami, fight this woman here for me since I can't fight women.

Nami: okay zorro no problem. Even though it's obvious I'm not even in her league I'll try jux for you and hope plot armour helps me through.

Zorro: yh nami, I'm such a friend, I'm going let u handle someone who (realistically) should maul you to bits, just because I can't fight women. What a considerate guy I am. And oh, if I happen to be done with my fight I'll trust you to finish yours victorious too. If by the time I'm done and you aren't, I'll simply stay back and watch you get beaten over and over (with no serious injuries or fear of death ofcos) because I have faith in you.

Nami: you are the best zorro

With such good friends, who needs bloodthirsty villains.

kimco:


I don't see how anyone won't feel insulted when you call them dull brain etc. I didn't feel insulted, I was insulted.

By that logic of teamwork can any other manga/anime be accused of no team work?

OP scenerio of teamwork:

Zorro: hey nami, fight this woman here for me since I can't fight women.

Nami: okay zorro no problem. Even though it's obvious I'm not even in her league I'll try jux for you and hope plot armour helps me through.

Zorro: yh nami, I'm such a friend, I'm going let u handle someone who (realistically) should maul you to bits, just because I can't fight women. What a considerate guy I am. And oh, if I happen to be done with my fight I'll trust you to finish yours victorious too. If by the time I'm done and you aren't, I'll simply stay back and watch you get beaten over and over (with no serious injuries or fear of death ofcos) because I have faith in you.

Nami: you are the best zorro

With such good friends, who needs bloodthirsty villains.

then it turns out to be the undisputed best, it then means there is a "living-water" that the Samaritans & the Unbelieving Jews have discovered & never again shall they thirst any more cos they have seen the lights that the Pharisees, Saddusees, Zealots, Lawyers, etc have refused to see....[enter the kingdom/light, they refused, okay since you don't want the light, oya allow others to enter, they no gree, they say liee liee]...na wa wetin man go do

kimco:

[s]What? That made no sense man. I watched 300+
episodes of onepiece and still didn't get enough
info on the one piece treasure. 300+
episodes...and not enough info on the
whereabouts of the onepiece treasure, the reason
he set off to be a pirate in the first place, only
obstacles on the way. At this point it's obvious the
manga has bad pacing. Impatient after watching
300+ episodes? Wow. Maybe you are looking for
something different in the manga and most def
you are getting it. I'm not getting what I'm
looking for at all. 300+ is very generous any how
you try to spin it.
Very funny are you implying the story of OP isn't
predicatable? Are you serious? Stop trying to make
the story sound like a masterpiece. It's average at
best.[/s]
Also don't compare game of thrones to OP at all.
They are not comparable In anyway possible in
this context. It also has it's faults but we won't go
there.
Also sales doesn't equal quality. Eg fairy tales
selling better than fma:brotherhood or lil
wayne more popular that some dope
underground rappers like immortal technique.
Like I said it does adventure quite well...and
people seem to like the adventure it provides. but
to actually try to put down other mangas by saying
the story is better is the biggest joke. It has no
story to praise.

ctuagent007:
@Zuko, you dey funny
He made this comment below & you still get the strenght to dey reply am, na wa for you
His "ignorant comment" gave him up so I don't see why the need to then again engage him cos if he had not watched or followed the anime, then I would have understood but to have at one time watched a bit of it & still expose his ignorance, you should have known he was "trolling you way bad gaaaan ni....



@Zuko, you have time that I don't really have....
The ship is about sailing so mugiwaras, are you ready for the Yonko showdown
Long live Oda....I hope his health doesn't fail him like the HxH mangaka sha

PRINCEZUKO1:


Lol....like I said, you only think its boring and unnecessary, but they are very very necessary. And it didn't in anyway miss the main point of the story, Oda never told you that his story is concentrated on finding some treasure, and that's where you're missing it. OP explores a way more broader sense of story than just finding some hidden treasure somewhere. Sorry if you're disappointed but its pacing is good you're just not patient enough.

I never said its perfect, it has story faults within but no one here is pointing at them. All I've seen here is personal criticisms which are just biased views anyway.

PRINCEZUKO1:


Dude, fairy tales doesn't sell more than FMA or the FMA brotherhood, It only has more chapters so better overall sales. But for the past 3 years now, FT hasn't been in top10 while FMA has been there and was even 2nd for about two years before AOT and Basket took it. OP has been number1 for 7years now. Sales largely determines quality especially when its same type of products at same price and place.
Like I said, all you're doing is personal critics simply because you didn't get what you are looking for. Going less than one quarter of a story doesn't give you enough grounds to raise the critics though. OP has a great story to tell and not just looking for One Piece.

PRINCEZUKO1:


Okay, tell me 1 fight anyone finished, and stayed back watching the other being beaten, and didn't step up to help without a reason.....I'm so gonna prove ya wrong now.

kimco:


Ermmm I jux checked the 2014 sales chat and fma wasn'tin first 30 even, ie going by your for the past 3 yrs comment. But I do get your point...so I'll render that eg moot. Sales is not always reflective of quality man...when people use sales in their arguments it renders their points useless since a lot of things factor into sales. As a whole manga, fma is surely better than OP,however it's short, doesn't preach friendship, has a dark tone to it and doesn't have enough chapters to make it a sales king. Another eg. During the release of fifa 05 and pes 5, pes 5 destroyed fifa as a game but fifa thwarted pes 5 in sales. Sales doesn't determine quality, Marketing and hype helps a bunch you see. Another point is pc gaming vs console gaming. Games sellmore on consoles but perform better on pcs.

Also dude at the time I watched it, there was a little over 600 episodes or even less. 300+ episodes of 600+ (atmost) is not less than quarter. It's actually -/+ half of it. So yeah...I had enough to critique the show. Even 300+ of 700+ is not less than quarter it's actually almost half. I believe I'm still good. And knowing OP's bad pacing issues, I'm sure not enough happened to warrant 400+ episodes that couldn't happen in atmost 150+ episodes.

kimco:
If naruto's daughter suddenly got the byakugan (my spelling oo) then surely kishi must explain to us how that happened since from the info given us before the eyes should have already been there...unlike the sharingan. Is kishi forgetting his own story? Man.

tegak10:
all the one piece adventures are linked to each other..... Alabsta skypiea fishman island- ancient weapons

N to those of u saying better sales dosent translate to quality, which manga that sold much was poor.. Even bleach n fairy tail started well.. But their writers lost their way.... Naruto was nice... I remember those days when taijutsu n brains where used to fight... Kakashi is even d best character to me because he had d least amt of powerups... N not forgetting his chakra problems.. Then the second half that only rasenshuriken is enough to destroy not to talk about d odama rasenshuriken.... or the overpowered mangekyo sharingan..... Or konohamaru beating a path of pain... The last straw was after naruto got 9 tails mode... He did shadow clone n went to all d battle fields(unlimited chakre)

Twisting:

LOL I don't feel like commenting on this.

Ultimatesammie:

Abeg tell dem ooo even if a hundred peeps tell dem a particular fault dey wud still argue it out. One fact is if d Mugiwaras was to be in a different world/anime/manga dey wud be dead since buh 4 dem no worries cos deres always a powerful bandage dat takes away d pain frm all their injuries.
The thing is dey are diehard fans who love it too much nd like dey say Love is blind.

PRINCEZUKO1:


Lol, Kishi ain't telling no story, he's randomly setting up fights and powers. So don't ask for explanations.
When another wants to properly set up his story and break down his explanations, you'll still complain of pacing tho so no need. Just relax and smoke Kishi's weed with him.

PRINCEZUKO1:


I guess I typed too fast for FMA, I meant that FT hasnt been in top 10 for the last 3 years, but FMA was consistently there for its last 3 years. When FMA was on, it sold better than FT. You can't expect a series that stopped serialization some years back to still be in competition to an ongoing series.

Watching 300 episodes of a series that was still less than half way as at 600 is less than quarter....so you have next to nothing to give its critics. Just like someone who watched Naruto till chunin arc and say, Naruto is rubbish, small kids jumping around, blahblahblah. So I won't waste time on your pacing talks. Your expectations were rightly trampled on though. You actually failed to realise that those arcs you call side adventures would all lead to the one piece eventually. Your imaginations cant grasp the concept behind the Pluton of Alabaster, Water7 importance and Skypiea Poneglyph....OP is a story too far fetched for your type that just wants to know the end already. That's its unpredictability for you.
Call the pride nonsense, but fact is, there are times a man has to stand up for himself no matter what. Zoro wants to be the best, meets the best in a duel and you want someone to interfere. Same Zoro knocked out Sanji once when he came to help him in between fights. Just like Naruto said, 'if I don't win my battles alone, I may never grow up'. When Zoro got taken down by Mihawk, Luffy jumped into the fight and was told Zoro got spared. Funny enough, Zoro's last minute act served as a basis for Mihawk to later personally train him in swordsmanship, which wouldn't have happened if Luffy, Usopp came charging in mid fight as you expect. Mention a reasonable battle.

Like I said, OP has its story faults, but you're far away from mentioning them. What you're mentioning is your personal sentiments and it largely doesn't count even a bit.

UchihaItachi:


Obviously the guy doesn't know OP enough to argue about it and Zuko is definitely a very patient guy

kimco:


Obviously you do enjoy the manga, good for you. Actually I don't know what I'm doing trying to state an obvious to fanboys. Whether I'm right or wrong, you guys would continually enjoy one piece. So continue to do so. Let's all stop it here.

Tosyn007:
Sorry to barge in on you guys, I just wanna inquire whether someone could help with a link for Attack on Titan movie. And what's up with the Boruto Movie?

Tosyn007:
Sorry to barge in on you guys, I just wanna inquire whether someone could help with a link for Attack on Titan movie. And what's up with the Boruto Movie?

kimco:


Errrm in less than 70 episodes death note and fma managed to have the "perfect" mix of plot, engaging characters and consistent logic. You don't need a 1000 episodes to do that. Sorry try again.

But yes! Kishi is now a joker.

ctuagent007:
Respect to @zuko, boy you just showed me that not only are you a patient guy (true traits of sensible Onepiece fans), but that you can confortably live with a nagging wife for 50 years no shaking......
Twale...

UchihaItachi:


You should stop mixing all the anime worlds together. In the Naruto world it's all mostly about mental abilities, a ninja should be able to do great damage with every tiny movement. But in OP world it's all about power except for maybe conqueror's haki..I see your major problem with OP is their high survival rate but I don't think anyone should complain about such things except of course if you fail to realise the uniqueness of every anime world and start mixing it up with another. Your comments suggest you don't follow the stories behind OP, you just follow it for the fights

Ultimatesammie:

Theres nothing superb abt d fight so many of d fights in my view are appaling nd nothing dat spectacular nd by d way like kimco said he doesn't fear wen dey (Mugiwaras) go into battle becos we already know wat wud eventually happen except in sabody where dey Mugiwaras faced a tough test nd dere was no way out.
By d way some1 was talking abt hidan not attacking Shikamaru well enough to defeat him or something like instead of attacking a vital point he didn't do dat Now I wanna aak in sabody wen kizaru was abt to finish off zorro how many yrs wud he take him his ability is arguably d fastest nd yet he took him a long time to attack some1 he was literally stepping on nd dont tell me he has a slow personality cos weve seen him attack other guys in ample time its like he was waiting 4 zorro to be saved.

PRINCEZUKO1:


Lol....as if twas Shikamaru that did it the 1st time you're talking of. If Asuma wasn't there Hidan would've beaten him all over the place then.
He defeated Hidan just once, in that forest.

Ultimatesammie:

Theres nothing superb abt d fight so many of d fights in my view are appaling nd nothing dat spectacular nd by d way like kimco said he doesn't fear wen dey (Mugiwaras) go into battle becos we already know wat wud eventually happen except in sabody where dey Mugiwaras faced a tough test nd dere was no way out.
By d way some1 was talking abt hidan not attacking Shikamaru well enough to defeat him or something like instead of attacking a vital point he didn't do dat Now I wanna aak in sabody wen kizaru was abt to finish off zorro how many yrs wud he take him his ability is arguably d fastest nd yet he took him a long time to attack some1 he was literally stepping on nd dont tell me he has a slow personality cos weve seen him attack other guys in ample time its like he was waiting 4 zorro to be saved.

PRINCEZUKO1:


Lol. No mind me jare. I'm enjoying myself. Its very funny when I see people judging a book by its cover. People who know nothing about literature trying to judge a book by their own expectations...especially this kimco dude who just started a little part of the part and thinks he knows the whole.

PRINCEZUKO1:


Lol, before you check on number of episodes they need, DN and FMA obviously had a bunch of characters, a few places and a short time span within its story, so it can make do with a few episodes compared to OP that explores a vast world, different varieties of personalities, and a story that spans from 900years ago. So yes, it needs that 1000+ episodes.
If you still find it confusing, try writing a well structured story with 10 characters then try another with 100characters and see which will take you more time and pages.