berexio1:
For those who have relatives in Canada, bear in mind that their status over there can affect ur application especially if the person came in through study route and has overstayed. For PR relatives, this might be looked at differently. My advise is to leave out the person's details on ur family form. He is in canada already so I don't see you inviting him over.
Cheers!

standupguy:
So my own wait is over so is my quest to study in Canada.
Got a refusal mail right now, abeg no condolence please, at least i have ascertained that CIC is an organization with no laid down procedure nor rules. My Only regret is that i should have listened to Mrnilbrown earlier.
After i was refused for insufficient available finance for tuition and living expenses in my first app.
The second app i was refused for insufficient available finance for living expenses and personal assets. (Both time my sponsors finance were very good but i didn't include my SOAs and Assets though i stated my employment status and earnings.


Well this time around it is purpose of visit and length of stay can you imagine that ?

Well this what i submitted for this final application
Pls bro, this ur application was it paper route or online? Thanks.
SOP
Letter of Introduction from Employer
My SOAs 250K, 50K, 10K
My Fixed deposit 2.2M (This fixed deposit was made since Dec last year).
My Stock evaluation and portfolio (250k).
Tuition receipt Payment (27,205 CAD).
Degree result
Neco result
My Resume

Sponsors Affidavit of sponsorship.
Sponsors Letter of intro from Employer stating salary (8M).
Sponsors SOAs 3.4M/1M.
Sponsors Property documents.
Birth certificate.

I changed institutions from Conestoga to Centennial because my program at conestoga didn't have a September intake.
Both programs where the same and post graduate programs and i explained this in my SOP and even put there website to buttress my point.

What i would like to know is how CIC suddenly realized that they dont understand my purpose of visit and length of stay after two applications were refused for financial reasons but not for purpose of visit sounds quite phony.
In conclusion CIC is rogue organization!!!!!

Well it has been a pleasure being part of this wonderful family.
Thanks to everyone and God bless you all

berexio1:
For those who have relatives in Canada, bear in mind that their status over there can affect ur application especially if the person came in through study route and has overstayed. For PR relatives, this might be looked at differently.

My advise is to leave out the person's details on ur family form. He is in canada already so I don't see you inviting him over.

Cheers!

Fhemmmy:


Without being a VO, what i see in the bold is:
1. Family reunion
2. Incapable to finance your education and might end up being a strain on the system
3. Soon, another one will join you 2 and making 3 from your family.
Mind you, i agree with you that some makes no sense, but you play into their hands and what is said in first refusal is of no point but how you have played into their hands.
Me and I know, no job will wait for you but it that is all they wanna hear for you to get your VISA, so be it, tell them what they wanna hear and move on with life.

TheBae:
It's not overstaying because it's legal anyway.
+ don't forget that the person already filled a family information form when he/she was applying so they probably already have your name in their record if he/she is your sibling. Leaving out that information isn't advisable. It's just going to end in a mess

berexio1:
Since his bro didn't come back after postgraduate studies..They are in doubt if he really intends to study and that makes them unsure of his length of proposed study..His finances are ok bro!

kennykentipsy:
hey guys i need shear this with u

today I was at my internet service providers office owned by Indians at illupeju i asked of their oga at the top to say hello and inform him I will be off the country to Canada cos we kinda close he told me he just came from Indian to resolve his son's issue with CIC in India.

the issue of denial after medicals was a problem too in India due to so many Complains India government petitioned CIC and the excuse given was too much applications so in other to save time cos most resumption dates are near they send medical request to applicants while their apps are still being processed if ur app is OK they send u approval mail if not then it a denial.

the cost of medical test in India is expensive. so this sparked the complains

berexio1:
No,it won't end up in a mess.Am of the opinion that you can leave out information bt don't lie about anything. If CIC decides to research on their own,,good and fine.The truth is that more often than not, they use the information you supplied to them.

thesoj:
@hayqinsbFX, totally agree bro. Canada will be a good place for your learning and imagination. America has been the same for me. I just blew my cover lol.

standupguy:


But he is not in the Country illegally na?
Post graduate work permit na 3yrs na and he is just a yr into it.

thesoj:
I agree that the status of relatives in Canada can affect one's application, and the best strategy is to disconnect one's purpose of visit from that relative as much as possible. Meaning: don't say you'll go live with them, apply for TRV using a school in another province, etc.

Also, I think you should not leave out data about relatives if they are your sibling or parents -- this could come back and bite you in the bu.tt later in the future. It is okay to leave out relatives' information if they are extended family.

standupguy:
How far?

TheBae:
It's is not advisable to leave out such information. It is clearly stated that your family information form must include information of parents and siblings. They don't need to do any research for your name to pop up as a sibling of a past applicant. What will lead to an outright denial is lying as well as leaving out information that they specifically asked for. It's like a booby trap, that is why they request and keep such information on their database. You should read the US thread, you'll probably understand better.

berexio1:
U never see person wey dey deny him sibling based on issues within the family or in the past..If an applicant decides not to include a sibling cos he doesn't wanna be associated with the person nko?

standupguy:
I will order my gcms file from this last app to share it here with everyone, probably it will help someone in the future.

thesoj:
I just sent you another email a few minutes ago. Dude, I think I just figured out why the application was delayed and it wasn't because of your brother or finances. Also, it wasn't because the VO treated it as a new application, per se. I feel 99% sure.

We can share it with the house after I hear your response to the hypothesis in my email. @berexio1 @TheBae @Fhemmmy

thesoj:
I just sent you another email a few minutes ago. Dude, I think I just figured out why the application was delayed and it wasn't because of your brother or finances. Also, it wasn't because the VO treated it as a new application, per se. I feel 99% sure.

We can share it with the house after I hear your response to the hypothesis in my email. @berexio1 @TheBae @Fhemmmy

vinegar:
Just tracked and saw that my passport has been dispatched today...no approval mail yet...Well am hopeful sha...

standupguy:
You see my response.

TheBae:
Or why the citizens of the so called "Giant of Africa" are running helter skelter looking for "greener pastures" in all sorts of countries that don't even have half the resources we have. But then, there's hope for a better Nigeria

TempusQ:

While you're in secondary school you did titration (Chemistry Practical) one person per stand with a Bunsen Burner, but in university 8 persons per stand with Kerosene Stove in one of the Nigeria Federal Universities.
What can we call that "A Progression" or "Regression"?
The rich keep getting richer while the poor keeps getting poorer...
So, migrating to countries like Canada for me is the best for a better Nigerian.

Calming myself down, don't wanna remember things of the past.

thesoj:
@berexio1 @TheBae @Fhemmmy

What do you guys think? @standupguy's first two applications were for a PGD, but for his most recent application he changed programs to a different school (the old program wasn't open for admission). The new program is a fast-track Advanced Diploma program (same course) but not a PGD. For admission, the fast-track Advanced Diploma program requires a BSc or prior college diploma (stated on his admission letter). The program is originally a three-year program, but fast track students skip the first year.

The three-year version of the Advanced Diploma program does not require a prior BSc for admission, therefore I contend that the VO considered his fast-track Advanced Diploma admission to be lower than his BSc (and prior PGD he had applied with) because one doesn't need a BSc to be admitted into the longer Advanced Diploma program. And given that the fast-track is invariably the same diploma as its three-year version, I believe this is why "Purpose of Visit" and "Length of Proposed Visit" were ticked.

An advanced diploma is still lower than a BSc or PGD, at least in the eyes of the VO. I believe the VO was thus forced to view it as a completely different application, even if he/she initially hadn't intended to. Thoughts?

staydogged:
a fast track advanced diploma can come handy after a bachelors if you are a fresh graduate or have relatively little or no years of experience in that field. in @standupguys case, i can say his age coupled with the choice of course nailed him the third time. can i ask how old you are and how many years have you used working after school?

staydogged:
a fast track advanced diploma can come handy after a bachelors if you are a fresh graduate or have relatively little or no years of experience in that field.
how can you have about 5years experience after bachelors then you decide you want to go learn the trade well, a PGD could have given it to you
in @standupguys case, i can say his age coupled with the choice of course nailed him the third time.

can i ask how old you are and how many years have you used working after school?

thesoj:
@berexio1 @TheBae @Fhemmmy

What do you guys think? @standupguy's first two applications were for a PGD, but for his most recent application he changed programs to a different school (the old program wasn't open for admission). The new program is a fast-track Advanced Diploma program (same course) but not a PGD. For admission, the fast-track Advanced Diploma program requires a BSc or prior college diploma (stated on his admission letter). The program is originally a three-year program, but fast track students skip the first year.

The three-year version of the Advanced Diploma program does not require a prior BSc for admission, therefore I contend that the VO considered his fast-track Advanced Diploma admission to be lower than his BSc (and prior PGD he had applied with) because one doesn't need a BSc to be admitted into the longer Advanced Diploma program. And given that the fast-track is invariably the same diploma as its three-year version, I believe this is why "Purpose of Visit" and "Length of Proposed Visit" were ticked.

An advanced diploma is still lower than a BSc or PGD, at least in the eyes of the VO. I believe the VO was thus forced to view it as a completely different application, even if he/she initially hadn't intended to. Thoughts?

Edited: I think the VO should have been sympathetic to the nuances in his new application and still given @standupguy the visa, but these guys sometimes can be super strict on technicalities.

thesoj:
Agreed. I think it is still possible to get a visa to an Advanced Diploma program even with a prior BSc. But this is likely only in the scenario you described -- if the candidate is just fresh out of school. But even still, I would advise BSc holders to only do PGD and above for visa purposes.

standupguy:
The Conestoga was tagged Graduate certificate and has a 2yrs duration, while the centennial was tagged advanced diploma fast track and 2 yrs duration.Both programs are Post graduate program as specified by the admission requirements on both college websites. Here is a screenshot of both acceptance letters i would like to hear your take on it too.