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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 3:55pm On Aug 13, 2015
@mavverick, thank you! That doesn't change the obvious, NextHome is not Baba Lati shop and we respect whatever document we sign with our clients. We stand by our word. Continue running the project from UK, dealing directly with tradespeople here in naija.

I'm sure you remember how much brag3's brother warned you against these approach. 'Aja to maa sonu ko ni gbo fere olode'

That we owe our workmen is a myriad to me cos it's a case of garbage in, garbage out. What you give is what you get. You want to pay NextHome 60k and expect us to pay more for the workers or what?

Bros, abeg to digress?
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 4:03pm On Aug 13, 2015
brag3:


Issue is way behind us. I agreee that but if you feel in some way I or my brother did not stick to the terms then can say it.

I don't have to share it at all but I just once a while feel like is it because you're the only one paying for this stage that makes you feel the contract needs a review? No offense intended.

Immediately you set in, I asked your brother for the reasons and when he told me, I had my reservations. If you have done what you're doing now sir earlier during negotiation of the contract, we wouldn't have gotten here at all.

At some point, you made some moves that I so much respect but later on "Nothing". I know you are tougher than your brother but how this got past you is still a surprise to me.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by mavverick: 4:08pm On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:
@mavverick, thank you! That doesn't change the obvious, NextHome is not Baba Lati shop and we respect whatever document we sign with our clients. We stand by our word. Continue running the project from UK, dealing directly with tradespeople here in naija.

I'm sure you remember how much brag3's brother warned you against these approach. 'Aja to maa sonu ko ni gbo fere olode'

That we owe our workmen is a myriad to me cos it's a case of garbage in, garbage out. What you give is what you get. You want to pay NextHome 60k and expect us to pay more for the workers or what?

Bros, abeg to digress?


Nothing as worse as dealing with you, how I choose to run my project is not your concern. What should be your concern is to stop defrauding people.

Did Brag3's brother self not run a mile when the whole thing turn nasty and you colluded with his sister to defraud him ??

Paid you money to deliver materials, you absconded and started giving story. In the end I am glad the matter got resolved.


My questions still not answered.


WERE RODS AND CEMENT NOT TAKEN FROM MY SITE BY YOU/NEXTHOME ?
DID YOU OR NOT PLAN TO COLLUDE WITH MY SECURITY AND ASK HIM TO LIE TO ME ON QUANTITY OF STUFF ON SITE ??


ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND CUT THE CRAP !!
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 4:09pm On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:


I don't have to share it at all but I just once a while feel like is it because you're the only one paying for this stage that makes you feel the contract needs a review? No offense intended.

Immediately you set in, I asked your brother for the reasons and when he told me, I had my reservations. If you have done what you're doing now sir earlier during negotiation of the contract, we wouldn't have gotten here at all.

At some point, you made some moves that I so much respect but later on "Nothing". I know you are tougher than your brother but how this got past you is still a surprise to me.




I get you now. So I slacked during the negotiations? Yeah I guess so. I have to agree to that or maybe you will have given me a better price so we are where we are now, right?
I guess it got past me cause of trust. I live my life trusting people and will continue to do so until that person proves me wrong.
I cannot (like people) live my life without trust. Whats the point?

But I have learned from this.

Can I ask again for the 3rd time. When are you going to send my Structural, Architectural, Electrical and Mechanical drawings?
If you don't feel comfortable sending it to me then please send it to my brother.
I really need them now. pleaseeeeeeeeeeee
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 4:16pm On Aug 13, 2015
brag3:


"By respecting each other's decision and meeting up our obligations as spelt out in contract document, all will be well. The big question is "Do all our clients satisfy the conditions of the contract?"
"

Brabus you seem to be insinuating that your clients dont satisfy all the terms of their contract with you.
Can you let me know when/where we broke the terms of our contract?

And when did you ever tell me or my brother to go and reconsider our decision before signing contract with you?
I must have missed that posting because I don't think this happened in our case





3strike might be cheap but never defaults .......i do have Zero tolerance for people who doesn't meet deadlines. Gentlemen agreement should do

if i play my part you must play yours. no bait n switch
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 4:23pm On Aug 13, 2015
mavverick:



Nothing as worse as dealing with you, how I choose to run my project is not your concern. What should be your concern is to stop defrauding people.

Did Brag3's brother self not run a mile when the whole thing turn nasty and you colluded with his sister to defraud him ??

Paid you money to deliver materials, you absconded and started giving story. In the end I am glad the matter got resolved.


My questions still not answered.


WERE RODS AND CEMENT NOT TAKEN FROM MY SITE BY YOU/NEXTHOME ?
DID YOU OR NOT PLAN TO COLLUDE WITH MY SECURITY AND ASK HIM TO LIE TO ME ON QUANTITY OF STUFF ON SITE ??


ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND CUT THE CRAP !!






Sh^t is getting real here again....is this another case? oga Adeekiti which kind weed you dey smoke before you comment again? i need something strong like that. brb

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 4:32pm On Aug 13, 2015
Let me share what I learnt from my sister's project, 1: I'm directing dis question to all contractors involve in a messy deal on Nairaland, can u provide details of all your workers starting from the bricklayers involve in all dis messed projects, they need to say something about their employer, is it a bargain reached by them and the contractor to use little materials on the said structures, that in the case of the stairs that was done and the parapet issue, and sometime we need to note something dis bricklayers are also cunny as they will deliver to u base how much u pay them, so don't blame the bricklayer but the contractor, more facts are left hidden.. A situation that in my sister's case, my brother charged her 120k for plastering and he bargained 50 with the bricklayer but the bricklayer felt cheated and he demanded 10bags of cement at a stage but he was given 4bags of cement by my brother, so can we see where the problem is? He has to use what he was offered to get the work delivered, but tell me how will the work be delivered in good condition. As the owner of the project try to get a visible pictures of all the materials used, complain immediately you notice anything to avoid future disaster, a building can look attractive at any stage but how fit can the structure stand for long? So many issues but I'm glad we are learning from here too.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 4:32pm On Aug 13, 2015
brag3:


Can I ask again for the 3rd time. When are you going to send my Structural, Architectural, Electrical and Mechanical drawings?
If you don't feel comfortable sending it to me then please send it to my brother.
I really need them now. pleaseeeeeeeeeeee

Check your email on the 19th October, 2014 for the soft copy. Hard copy handed over to your sister
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 4:36pm On Aug 13, 2015
Boss wetin be weed grin grin abeg come back make I know grin , comedy loading...oga 3strike wetin be weed
3strike:






Sh^t is getting real here again....is this another case? oga Adeekiti which kind weed you dey smoke before you comment again? i need something strong like that. brb
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 4:38pm On Aug 13, 2015
Please bear with me , I'm not a good writer but I think one can understand what I'm driving at.. Oga 3strike abeg I wan ask again wetin be weed?
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by PeoplesArmy: 4:43pm On Aug 13, 2015
mavverick:



Nothing as worse as dealing with you, how I choose to run my project is not your concern. What should be your concern is to stop defrauding people.

Did Brag3's brother self not run a mile when the whole thing turn nasty and you colluded with his sister to defraud him ??

Paid you money to deliver materials, you absconded and started giving story. In the end I am glad the matter got resolved.


My questions still not answered.


WERE RODS AND CEMENT NOT TAKEN FROM MY SITE BY YOU/NEXTHOME ?
DID YOU OR NOT PLAN TO COLLUDE WITH MY SECURITY AND ASK HIM TO LIE TO ME ON QUANTITY OF STUFF ON SITE ??


ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND CUT THE CRAP !!


So you are saying apart from being a fraudster, Brabus is also a thief? Na wa o. Wonders shall never end. A new thing everyday.......and to think I rated him so highly.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 4:49pm On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:


Check your email on the 19th October, 2014 for the soft copy. Hard copy handed over to your sister

OK, will check this. So I presume that email contains all the 4 diagrams, right?
Thanks

Also expecting a copy of the approval as promised.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 4:49pm On Aug 13, 2015
PeoplesArmy:


So you are saying apart from being a fraudster, Brabus is also a thief? Na wa o. Wonders shall never end. A new thing everyday.......and to think I rated him so highly.
oga army pls sir hope no be sey u wan arrest pple sha for their comments make I no write anything again . grin oga Brabus dey cause more probs for himself settle things with your clients, it seems dey av loads of queries against u due to the service u offered them, again pls customers are always right.. Try and get some ideas abt customer service, it will really help bro
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 4:59pm On Aug 13, 2015
brag3:


OK, will check this. So I presume that email contains all the 4 diagrams, right?
Thanks

Also expecting a copy of the approval as promised.

Payment covers architectural and structural drawings which have been handed over.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 5:26pm On Aug 13, 2015
Africa’s flagship annual convention for the Real Estate sector, REAL ESTATE UNITE, powered by 3INVEST Limited, has commenced activities for the 2015 edition with the unveiling of the event’s agenda. The theme for this fourth edition is “Connecting the DOTS in Africa’s Real Estate”. It is set to hold on the 29th and 30th of September at Eko Convention Centre, Lagos.

Join us there!

Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by mavverick: 5:53pm On Aug 13, 2015
Complete diversion !!!
Brabus na joke, I wonder who will turn up for that convention. I hope its not a bunch of brabus lookalikes/bunch of fraudsters !!

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 5:59pm On Aug 13, 2015
mavverick:
Complete diversion !!!
Brabus na joke, I wonder who will turn up for that convention. I hope its not a bunch of brabus lookalikes/bunch of fraudsters !!

Bros, how can you stoop so low? Na wa o! Attendance is strictly by invitation and registration. You can come and share the fun with us. It's the gathering of the biggest and brightest in Nigeria Real Estate Market. 2014 highlights here http://3investonline.com/real-estate-unite-2014-report-and-highlights/

Don't expect to see Baba Jimoh, Baba Elegun, Fighter there etc. You know what I mean na.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 6:42pm On Aug 13, 2015
This year will be more exciting with more innovative products to be exhibited.

Exhibitors last year includes:

1. Broll
2. Structon Limited (structonlimiteddotcom)
3. Gran Imperio (granimperioprojectsdotcom)
4. HFP (hfpngdotcom)
5. Warri Industrial Business Park (warrindustrialparkdotcom)
6. NMRC
7. Shelter Afrique (shelterafriquedotcom)
8. Briscoe Properties
9. Eko Pearl Tower (ekopeartowersdotcom)
10. Ogun State Housing Corporation (ogunhousingcorpdotcom)
11. Lagos HOMS (lagoshoms.gov.ng)
12. Churchgate Group (churchgatedotcom)
13. Cadwell Limited (cadwellltddotcom)
14. UACN Property Development Company (UPDC)
15. Grenadines
16. CMB
17. Alan Carray (alancarraydotcom)
18. Lock and Switches (lockandswitchesdotnet)
19. Leatherworld (leatherworldngdotcom)
20. Afriland Properties (afrilandpropertiesdotcom)

and many others Lekki Garden, ARM Properties, Diamond Bank, Orange Island, VP Grasse, Troloppe, Sujimoto Construction Ltd. etc.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by gabbytabby: 6:44pm On Aug 13, 2015
I quoted the wrong text.

egunmogaji
I was almost convinced that you are an ibadan man but this your write says Amelica through and through and come to think of that I have worked in real estate in 3 countries they do not do it like that oh.

Make contractors use them money to build residential property for you on your land that they do not have title over nobody does that. In Nigeria I say hell no.

Independent inspector or colluding partner you get money to waist another 20-30 percent goes on the project cost be that.
It's not only contractor that have problem in 9ja oh a lot of owners are also dishonest. Whilst knowing that they do not have money they will buy matetials and not pay, they will employ contractors and artisans and not pay.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 7:13pm On Aug 13, 2015
gabbytabby:
I quoted the wrong text.

egunmogaji
I was almost convinced that you are an ibadan man but this your write says Amelica through and through and come to think of that I have worked in real estate in 3 countries they do not do it like that oh.

Make contractors use them money to build residential property for you on your land that they do not have title over nobody does that. In Nigeria I say hell no.

Independent inspector or colluding partner you get money to waist another 20-30 percent goes on the project cost be that.
It's not only contractor that have problem in 9ja oh a lot of owners are also dishonest. Whilst knowing that they do not have money they will buy matetials and not pay, they will employ contractors and artisans and not pay.


Madam, I am what I am. An Ibadan made and grown boy. That I work so far away in America doesn't mean that I've lost my heritage grin

They do exactly what I wrote where I live here in the US, not sure of those other countries.

It's dangerous to drive a motor vehicle and hundreds of thousands will die today. This is not stopping any of us from jumping into our car and driving. An analogy.

So maybe an astute builder will introduce this system in Nigeria. Maybe introduce an escrow company as an in between or a bank guaranteed loan.

It can work if we put measures into place to make it work. I built another house in Texas also with only a $500 deposit and to my complete customization. Builder could not meet my timeline towards the end. Due to contract that we signed they paid of my house rental for 3 months and when they still couldn't finish it in time they made an offer, mov in now and have work around us or pull out. We opted to pull out.

I think Brabus is on to a good thing, he is now wise enough to include Lawyering up in his contracts. That this was missing is alarming to me. Why would three siblings, one of whom is in the UK and another that lives in the capital of Nigeria will enter into a N24m real estate deal without a Lawyer befuddles me.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 7:16pm On Aug 13, 2015
mavverick:
Complete diversion !!!
Brabus na joke, I wonder who will turn up for that convention. I hope its not a bunch of brabus lookalikes/bunch of fraudsters !!

I disagree. I refer you to the title of this thread. We are the ones causing a diversion, perhaps a required and deserved one but we cannot in good faith stop him from continuing to build his business.

Don't they have police and lawyers in Lagos? If anyone was so aggrieved then why isn't Brabus posting from a cell?

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 7:17pm On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:
This year will be more exciting with more innovative products to be exhibited.

Exhibitors last year includes:

1. Broll
2. Structon Limited (structonlimiteddotcom)
3. Gran Imperio (granimperioprojectsdotcom)
4. HFP (hfpngdotcom)
5. Warri Industrial Business Park (warrindustrialparkdotcom)
6. NMRC
7. Shelter Afrique (shelterafriquedotcom)
8. Briscoe Properties
9. Eko Pearl Tower (ekopeartowersdotcom)
10. Ogun State Housing Corporation (ogunhousingcorpdotcom)
11. Lagos HOMS (lagoshoms.gov.ng)
12. Churchgate Group (churchgatedotcom)
13. Cadwell Limited (cadwellltddotcom)
14. UACN Property Development Company (UPDC)
15. Grenadines
16. CMB
17. Alan Carray (alancarraydotcom)
18. Lock and Switches (lockandswitchesdotnet)
19. Leatherworld (leatherworldngdotcom)
20. Afriland Properties (afrilandpropertiesdotcom)

and many others Lekki Garden, ARM Properties, Diamond Bank, Orange Island, VP Grasse, Troloppe, Sujimoto Construction Ltd. etc.

Is there an association of builders? Do they give licensing to members?
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 7:17pm On Aug 13, 2015
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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 7:18pm On Aug 13, 2015
EgunMogaji:


Is there an association of builders? Do they give licensing to members?
Google NIOB and CORBON.

Nigeria Institute of Building (NIOB) niobngdotorg

Council of Registered Builders of Nigeria (CORBON) corbon.gov.ng

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by bugmenot: 7:48pm On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:
Google NIOB and CORBON.

Nigeria Institute of Building (NIOB) niobngdotorg

Council of Registered Builders of Nigeria (CORBON) corbon.gov.ng



@Brabus
Are you a member of all or any of these organizations?

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 7:54pm On Aug 13, 2015
Summits in 9ja is all about yr money.All they care about is the registration fee,I've been to many of them.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 7:55pm On Aug 13, 2015
euromilion:
Summits in 9ja is all about yr money.All they care about is the registration fee,I've been to many of them.

Baba euro, give one example of the summit attended and the organisers. No pun intended.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by KolaShangOne(m): 8:41pm On Aug 13, 2015
mufutau55:


@NL1960
I agreed with you in full... that is why I said "The trust is almost gone in Nigeria business" ("gone" was omitted in my earlier reply).
Yes. We don't trust each other anymore... the problem is not only the Contractors but the Clients who want job done without paying for it.
Thank you.

Hajji M.

Hajj, this won't work even with all the legal documentations.. The duplex I posted on one of my threads, the owner is still owing me close to a million. It was my fault because I agreed on gentleman's agreement. its been 6months now and nothing.
Another client owes over 2 million but his own case, he has been served papers already.. And the list goes on..
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 8:47pm On Aug 13, 2015
KolaShangOne:


Hajj, this won't work even with all the legal documentations.. The duplex I posted on one of my threads, the owner is still owing me close to a million. It was my fault because I agreed on gentleman's agreement. its been 6months now and nothing.
Another client owes over 2 million but his own case, he has been served papers already.. And the list goes on..

This I do not understand.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by KolaShangOne(m): 9:27pm On Aug 13, 2015
EgunMogaji:

This I do not understand.

What I meant is that.. The legal framework in Nigeria is very weak. It has become a means for the rich to cheat the poor. There is so much bureaucracy that you would have spent so much in Legal fees to even get a judgement.

And so on and so forth..

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by PeoplesArmy: 9:45pm On Aug 13, 2015
adeekiti:
oga army pls sir hope no be sey u wan arrest pple sha for their comments make I no write anything again . grin oga Brabus dey cause more probs for himself settle things with your clients, it seems dey av loads of queries against u due to the service u offered them, again pls customers are always right.. Try and get some ideas abt customer service, it will really help bro

@adeekiti, My bros no mind the name o. Write all you want...there is no arrest plan.

@Brabus you were silent on allegation of going to remove materials from clients site and conniving with gateman. Can you confirm or deny this?

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 9:54pm On Aug 13, 2015
KolaShangOne:


What I meant is that.. The legal framework in Nigeria is very weak. It has become a means for the rich to cheat the poor. There is so much bureaucracy that you would have spent so much in Legal fees to even get a judgement.

And so on and so forth..

That the legal system is weak doesn't mean it should be abolished or ignored. We need to start doing business the right way without emotional attachments. No one can oppress you if you know your true value.

As a manager, we need to know how to separate emotion from a given business situation. Making decisions based on emotion or sentiment can lead to bad results. "Customer is always right" is just an expression that stores say to keep customers happy. Reacting to situations emotionally rather than reacting based on logic and facts can do lasting damage to business relationships.

Most contractors think that “the more customers the better”. But some customers are quite simply bad for business just as there are lot of terrible contractors. Get that right into your head.

Interesting reads: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_customer_is_always_right

_______
@semitunde, I hope you're seeing the reasons why you should not hit the spotlight unprepared.

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