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Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by exotiqueify(f): 7:05am On Aug 17, 2015
Okay, i recently submitted my cv to jobberman for a "SWOT ANALYSIS", or critique, u might say, of my cv. On a very good day, i could say these claims have legitimacy, but i would on dis day, beg to differ, and state that this cannot be entirely true, if at all....
When my cv critique came back, some observations were made:
1] In their words, and i quote "My first impression of u is that u have an impressive array of skills and experiences. You are a qualified candidate with a lot to offer the employer. The bad news is your cv does not easily pass d 30-second test."
2] that my cv was saved in PDF, which of course is true and that's d reason i haven't been getting much interviews as i'm supposed to. That only 19% of candidates save theirs in PDF , while 64% save theirs in word, so i should consider saving in word and start using for online applications, stating something like, "while PDF may make viewing consistent, some older Applicant Tracking System (ATS), have problems reading them. Now , i do understand this ATS ish, which might be true, but in my humble opinion, PDF file readers like ADOBE OR NITRO, SHOULD be a NECESSARY admin tool in an advanced and organized firm! Not having a PDF file reader, is like saying having MS WORD, but no excel!

AND

2a] that my file size is 358kb, so i should trim some things like format used for typing etc..... Now my question is: my cv in word format is just 95kb, not even up to 100kb, wat could be the problem as regards that much increase when changed to PDF

b]and moreover, i have applied for jobs that stated submitted cvs shouldnt be more than 2mb, which means people actually have cvs that weigh about 1mb plus, and still get jobs....sooo does this size even mean anything

*Very reasonable opinions are needed, jobLanders......*
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by erad(m): 7:59am On Aug 17, 2015
Good morning,
I'm not in the job search sector but I will like to submit my opinion.

First, I'm assuming there's an explanation of the 30-second test because I don't know what that means, mind shedding more light on it?

Secondly, saving your file in word as recommended by jobberman might just be because of the size advantage. I'm assuming they are thinking of whoever is reading it as a very busy person who might even be trying to access your CV on the move on a mobile device. Ease of download will play a key role under such conditions, might unconsciously give you an edge.

My widow's mite, all the best.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Dioxidane: 8:03am On Aug 17, 2015
Did they mention anything about their CV 'editing' services? 'Cos I believe they'll just have to find faults with it so that you'll end up paying them to make it right for you. Dunno sha, just my thoughts on this.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by exotiqueify(f): 8:10am On Aug 17, 2015
[quote author=Dioxidane post=37037621]Did they mention anything about their CV 'editing' services? 'Cos I believe they'll just have to find faults with it so that you'll end up paying them to make it right for you. Dunno sha, just my thoughts on this.[/quote/]

Yes, they did.....its sooo annoying.....i saw d mail yesterday, thats d rzn for opening this thread, cuz im not soo sure their analysis is credible. So i just would have loved to get an opinion from pple that work in HR dept o their companies ; or any reasonable opinion sha
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by khemorah: 8:13am On Aug 17, 2015
exotiqueify:
Okay, i recently submitted my cv to jobberman for a "SWOT ANALYSIS", or critique, u might say, of my cv. On a very good day, i could say these claims have legitimacy, but i would on dis day, beg to differ, and state that this cannot be entirely true, if at all....
When my cv critique came back, some observations were made:
1] In their words, and i quote "My first impression of u is that u have an impressive array of skills and experiences. You are a qualified candidate with a lot to offer the employer. The bad news is your cv does not easily pass d 30-second test."
2] that my cv was saved in PDF, which of course is true and that's d reason i haven't been getting much interviews as i'm supposed to. That only 19% of candidates save theirs in PDF , while 64% save theirs in word, so i should consider saving in word and start using for online applications, stating something like, "while PDF may make viewing consistent, some older Applicant Tracking System (ATS), have problems reading them. Now , i do understand this ATS ish, which might be true, but in my humble opinion, PDF file readers like ADOBE OR NITRO, SHOULD be a NECESSARY admin tool in an advanced and organized firm! Not having a PDF file reader, is like saying having MS WORD, but no excel!

AND

2a] that my file size is 358kb, so i should trim some things like format used for typing etc..... Now my question is: my cv in word format is just 95kb, not even up to 100kb, wat could be the problem as regards that much increase when changed to PDF

b]and moreover, i have applied for jobs that stated submitted cvs shouldnt be more than 2mb, which means people actually have cvs that weigh about 1mb plus, and still get jobs....sooo does this size even mean anything

*Very reasonable opinions are needed, jobLanders......*
Be calm, same thing they tell everybody! So you can edit your CV with them for 7500.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Dioxidane: 8:19am On Aug 17, 2015
exotiqueify:
Yes, they did.....its sooo annoying.....i saw d mail yesterday,
thats d rzn for opening this thread, cuz im not soo sure their
analysis is credible. So i just would have loved to get an
opinion from pple that work in HR dept o their companies ;
or any reasonable opinion sha

I just knew it! That's one of their usual antics. In my own opinion, a CV can never be perfect. If it's 'easy on the eyes' (spacing, font type/size and alignment-wise), if it's presentable enough, if it contains the necessary details of your experience(s) or accomplishments and skills, then it should be good enough.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by jamanuka: 8:35am On Aug 17, 2015
This is exactly same feedback I got from them.
This certainly means David Makinde or whatever his name is doesn't review any sh!t , he simply just sends some kind of automated nonsense to everyone

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Eseose9(f): 10:03am On Aug 17, 2015
Hahaha exactly the same feedback they sent to me

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by inibro(m): 10:10am On Aug 17, 2015
exotiqueify:


2a] that my file size is 358kb, so i should trim some things like format used for typing etc..... Now my question is: my cv in word format is just 95kb, not even up to 100kb, wat could be the problem as regards that much increase when changed to PDF


*Very reasonable opinions are needed, jobLanders......*

In my opinion, CV should always be saved in pdf to avoid the format changing or scattering when opened by the receiver.

Nitro pdf can convert that 95kb document in Ms word to about 128-140kb in pdf. You can try getting that.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by nenergy(m): 10:48am On Aug 17, 2015
inibro:


In my opinion, CV should always be saved in pdf to avoid the format changing or scattering when opened by the receiver.

Nitro pdf can convert that 95kb document in Ms word to about 128-140kb in pdf. You can try getting that.
Unless the recruiter list PDF as acceptable, please send it in Doc. ATS has issues reading PDF.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by soulhighman(m): 10:59am On Aug 17, 2015
jamanuka:
This is exactly same feedback I got from them.
This certainly means David Makinde or whatever his name is doesn't review any sh!t , he simply just sends some kind of automated nonsense to everyone

You are damn right. That's the same thing that was sent to me too. Am soo annoyed at that website now. I actually want to deactivate my acct from their website but it seems impossible.
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by obowunmi(m): 11:05am On Aug 17, 2015
They're cheating you people....

Too generic to serve as useful feedback.
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by missKiffy(f): 11:06am On Aug 17, 2015
Same reply I got, so it's more than obvious, they send same thing to almost everybody, have stopped using jobberman a long time ago

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by mcmeffy(m): 11:07am On Aug 17, 2015
erad:
Good morning,
I'm not in the job search sector but I will like to submit my opinion.

First, I'm assuming there's an explanation of the 30-second test because I don't know what that means, mind shedding more light on it?

Secondly, saving your file in word as recommended by jobberman might just be because of the size advantage. I'm assuming they are thinking of whoever is reading it as a very busy person who might even be trying to access your CV on the move on a mobile device. Ease of download will play a key role under such conditions, might unconsciously give you an edge.

My widow's might, all the best.

It's WIDOW'S MITE!

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by erad(m): 12:14pm On Aug 17, 2015
mcmeffy:

It's WIDOW'S MITE!

Thanks for the correction, was an honest oversight.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Nobody: 12:40pm On Aug 17, 2015
Just get a good format... Forget all this their trashes on re-editing and reviewing your cv for you...


Its only God that helps jobseekers....

All of them wants to re-edit my cv yet, I'm getting job interviews with the same CV.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by exotiqueify(f): 12:56pm On Aug 17, 2015
khemorah:

Be calm, same thing they tell everybody! So you can edit your CV with them for 7500.

guessed as much....
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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by exotiqueify(f): 3:39pm On Aug 17, 2015
khemorah:

Be calm, same thing they tell everybody! So you can edit your CV with them for 7500.


. . . . I was actually doing dis out of guess work, i mean the submission for appraisal, that was bc i used to hear jobberman had a certain kinda prestige for getting people jobs. Well, they can look for a recent graduate to hook their fangs on. . . . . . 7,500 haba!!thats too much o!
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by exotiqueify(f): 3:51pm On Aug 17, 2015
inibro:


In my opinion, CV should always be saved in pdf to avoid the format changing or scattering when opened by the receiver.

Nitro pdf can convert that 95kb document in Ms word to about 128-140kb in pdf. You can try getting that.

i actually used nitro and it gave me that 358kb. . . .about using pdf, that was my exact thoughts, so i rily dnt know where dis David or soo gets that his idea from. . . .
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by exotiqueify(f): 3:54pm On Aug 17, 2015
nenergy:

Unless the recruiter list PDF as acceptable, please send it in Doc. ATS has issues reading PDF.


that has been my whole point, most jobs i apply to, says pdf must be either in word or pdf, so. . . . . .By d way, could someone explain what dis ATS stuff mean?cuz it dosent seem like it has to do with word or pdf format
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by exotiqueify(f): 4:02pm On Aug 17, 2015
cvibe2:
exotiqueify,

Just out of interest, which position were you applying for or interested in that required the cv critique before hand?

im not sure where that interest came from, but thats not the issue here. . . . position being applied for, shouldnt be a concern of urs

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by nenergy(m): 5:26pm On Aug 17, 2015
exotiqueify:



that has been my whole point, most jobs i apply to, says pdf must be either in word or pdf, so. . . . . .By d way, could someone explain what dis ATS stuff mean?cuz it dosent seem like it has to do with word or pdf format
ATS- Applicant Tracking System.
CVs have become too many for hand-sorting, so recruiters use softwares designed to scan applicants CV for eligibility and qualification. ATS relies on keywords and CV formating.

So a CV might look good to your eyes, but won't pass ATS "test". ATS prefers .DOC CV files with good formatting.

I am proficient in this and my CV makeover "deal" just closed.

Lots of purchases. smiley

http://www.dealdey.com/deals/professional-cv-makeover-free-career-enhancement-book-3
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Unibentested(m): 6:37pm On Aug 17, 2015
exotiqueify:
Okay, i recently submitted my cv to jobberman for a "SWOT ANALYSIS", or critique, u might say, of my cv. On a very good day, i could say these claims have legitimacy, but i would on dis day, beg to differ, and state that this cannot be entirely true, if at all....
When my cv critique came back, some observations were made:
1] In their words, and i quote "My first impression of u is that u have an impressive array of skills and experiences. You are a qualified candidate with a lot to offer the employer. The bad news is your cv does not easily pass d 30-second test."
2] that my cv was saved in PDF, which of course is true and that's d reason i haven't been getting much interviews as i'm supposed to. That only 19% of candidates save theirs in PDF , while 64% save theirs in word, so i should consider saving in word and start using for online applications, stating something like, "while PDF may make viewing consistent, some older Applicant Tracking System (ATS), have problems reading them. Now , i do understand this ATS ish, which might be true, but in my humble opinion, PDF file readers like ADOBE OR NITRO, SHOULD be a NECESSARY admin tool in an advanced and organized firm! Not having a PDF file reader, is like saying having MS WORD, but no excel!

AND

2a] that my file size is 358kb, so i should trim some things like format used for typing etc..... Now my question is: my cv in word format is just 95kb, not even up to 100kb, wat could be the problem as regards that much increase when changed to PDF

b]and moreover, i have applied for jobs that stated submitted cvs shouldnt be more than 2mb, which means people actually have cvs that weigh about 1mb plus, and still get jobs....sooo does this size even mean anything

*Very reasonable opinions are needed, jobLanders......*

Hello, exotiqueify,

Kindly take their advice and submit applications on word doc, except the recruiter specifically asks for PDF. You can view your word doc on your phone, and computer to ensure the arrangement doesn't change when viewing on either medium.

Secondly, it is ideal to limit the size to 100kb or less. This is one great advantage of word documents as the file sizes are usually moderate. Word documents are also preferred to pdf, when you are applying to jobs in some specific sectors like the oil and gas, where most times, different recruitment agencies advertise jobs, for a particular company eg. Total (especially contract positions).

These agencies, take your word CV, modify it, with their letter head, add some details that might help your candidacy, before submitting to Total.


Please take note that you can do all these yourself without paying anyone a dime.

I hope these helps..

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Bsmartt(m): 7:06pm On Aug 17, 2015
I am looking forward to seeing when recruitment process will be transparent and our so called job sites will stop their over-exploitation of innocent job seekers.

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by mathmatica: 8:15pm On Aug 17, 2015
I GOT A JOB WITHOUT SUBMITTING ANY CV...WHAT WOULD YOU MAKE OF THAT?
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by exotiqueify(f): 9:37pm On Aug 17, 2015
Unibentested:


Hello, exotiqueify,

Kindly take their advice and submit applications on word doc, except the recruiter specifically asks for PDF. You can view your word doc on your phone, and computer to ensure the arrangement doesn't change when viewing on either medium.

Secondly, it is ideal to limit the size to 100kb or less. This is one great advantage of word documents as the file sizes are usually moderate. Word documents are also preferred to pdf, when you are applying to jobs in some specific sectors like the oil and gas, where most times, different recruitment agencies advertise jobs, for a particular company eg. Total (especially contract positions).



These agencies, take your word CV, modify it, with their letter head, add some details that might help your candidacy, before submitting to Total.


Please take note that you can do all these yourself without paying anyone a dime.

I hope these helps..


Thanx very much, will take people's advise on submitting word docs. But just for d record, d reason i submit my cv in pdf when applying for jobs is, i use my fone or tab most times to apply for jobs, and my fone shows my cv in word format, disarranged, hence d reason. I have quick office, ms office and think free viewer apps on my fone, dey all show my cv in word format disarranged, but d pdf is in perfect shape, if i transfer it to a system to view, whether word or pdf, its in order.

N.B: i said somewhere in my thread that my ms word format cv is actually LESS than 100kb, i was actually asking d reason for d much increase when changed to pdf using Nitro. . . .
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by mcmeffy(m): 10:10pm On Aug 17, 2015
erad:


Thanks for the correction, was an honest oversight.
U are welcome
Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Eddodoh(m): 10:25pm On Aug 17, 2015
I sent my CV to jobberman for review & i received an excellent feedback dat my CV does not need a re-write.

Different strokes for different folks

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Nobody: 10:39pm On Aug 17, 2015
exotiqueify:


N.B: i said somewhere in my thread that my ms word format cv is actually LESS than 100kb, i was actually asking d reason for d much increase when changed to pdf using Nitro. . . .


If u convert to pdf using microsoft word, the size would be less dan using nitro. However always use word for ur cv, what's the point in having the best formatting when it can't be read by the ATS? Most companies in naija are starting to use the ATS and trust me whatever qualification u have, another person even has more so u won't be missed atall when the ATS doesn't pick u

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Re: Does Dis Ludicrous Claim By Jobberman Have Any Plausibility? by Oladipupo22: 10:55pm On Aug 17, 2015
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