Russia Today — August 14, 2015
The performance of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is inferior to foreign jets it is expected to outperform in engagements and barely justifies replacing with it the older models currently deployed by the Pentagon, a scalding report says.
With an estimated price tag of $1.4 trillion, the Joint Strike Fighter is among Pentagon’s most expensive weapons program. The 5th-generation multipurpose fighter jets are meant to become the backbone of America’s air power for decades to come and play a significant part in defense capability of its allies.
But the performance characteristics of the advanced aircraft are inferior to those of 4th-generation aircraft deployed by advanced foreign power like Russia or China, which it is meant to dominate through superior technology, a scalding new report said.
The report released this week by US progressive think tank National Security Network identified four key areas in which the F-35 does not deliver: poor maneuverability that makes it vulnerable in dogfights, small internal payload capacity, short operational range and reliance on stealth technology for survivability.
“The F-35 will find itself outmaneuvered, outgunned, out of range, and visible to enemy sensors,”NSN’s policy analyst Bill French said.“Going forward, full investment in the F-35 would be to place a bad trillion-dollar bet on the future of airpower based on flawed assumptions and an underperforming aircraft.
“To avoid such a catastrophic outcome, Congress and DOD should begin the process of considering alternatives to a large-scale commitment to the F-35. Staying the present course may needlessly gamble away a sizable margin of American airpower at great expense and unnecessary risk to American lives,”he added.
Leaked: New F-35 fighter jet beaten by F-16 from 1970s https:///QgcewAszwi pic.twitter.com/fNgs70kXVa
— RT (@RT_com) July 3, 2015
The report compared the F-35 against the Russian-made Mig-29 and the Su-27, which is also produced by China under a license, claiming inadequacy of the US fighter.
“Compared to both the Su-27 and the MiG-29, the F-35 is grossly inferior in terms of wing loading (except for the F-35C), transonic acceleration, and thrust-to-weight. All F-35 variants also have significantly lower maximum speeds,”the report said.
It added that there was insufficient data for comparison with the Russian and Chinese 5th-generation fighter jets, PAK FA J-20 and J-31 for comparison.
US Marines declare F-35 fighter jet ‘ready for combat’ http:///GCrDNeSe4C pic.twitter.com/XzeiMn6VLC
— RT (@RT_com) August 1, 2015
Comparison against the F-16, F-18 and AV-8B Harrier, which the F-35 is meant to replace in the US fleet, showed that the new aircraft was worse in thrust, acceleration and wing loading, according to the report.
“These performance factors are critical to building up speed and gaining or retaining energy that enables the aircraft to maneuver and gain advantages in firing position against other aircraft or defeating incoming missiles,”French wrote.
Earlier the blog War is Boring publisheda leaked report by a test pilot that said an F-35 performed sluggishly in mock dogfights against an F-16.
The F-37 JSF has marked a milestone this month, when the US Marine Corps declared their version of the aircraft ready for combat. The Air Force and the Navy are still struggling to cut through computer glitches and engine troubles plaguing their variants.
Source: www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=120112

ok

Trillion dollars on a single program

Raymonbell:
Trillion dollars on a single program

The US as a country is one hell of a fraud and a very big joke too.

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Raymonbell:
Trillion dollars on a single program

If you could remember the money spent on their space mission compared to India counterpart.

My bro you will call U.S latest Maga

If US is conscious enough about the well being of humans around the world as they want to make us believe, they should know that what they can spend on a single war programme like this, can help solve the problem of hunger permanently in some regions.

You mean the aircraft that critics says could be shot down by throwing a stone at it?

capip120:
You mean the aircraft that critics says could be shot down by throwing a stone at it?

A very expensive toy that even catapult sef fit bring am down

capip120:
You mean the aircraft that critics says could be shot down by throwing a stone at it?

hahahahahahaha, guy you badt ni.

Compared to Russian Sukhoi SU 35 model which has an estimated cost of USD 40m to USD 65m you will understand why the US military is one big drain on the US economy.

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Russia and China beware, don't let the US fool you. the technology behind F-35 is mind boggling, it's sophistication is wild and crazy. the US wants you to relax believing you're on top while they remain miles ahead of ya'all.

[color=#006600][/color] This is just one the hyped, over rated assets of the Americans. They just inflate everything thinking everyone of us who aren't Americans are fools. I bet China and Japan or even Russia would build something exactly like this for a $100m. Awon Weyrey!

Russia today article? Rubbish...before the Russians turn experts in military tech let them graduate from owning one aircraft carrier to two, talk less of getting 12 and building two more like the United States has and is doing! shows the utter inferiority complex the Russians feel against America that they are obsessed by their progress while the u.s could hardly care what happens in that hell hole...

The dumb Russians and Chinese instead of coming up with their own technology is constantly thinking of stealing from the u.s and when they don't succeed, they send their third rate propaganda media to trash it, which is hilarious because nobody outside their indoctrinated populace listens or believes it......have they quit trying to steal the blueprints for the B2 stealth bomber that can fly passed the kremlin and the great Hall of the people without being seen on radar? keep trying folks or at least use your brain and come up with yours.

Horlawoomey:
If US is conscious enough about the well being of humans around the world as they want to make us believe, they should know that what they can spend on a single war programme like this, can help solve the problem of hunger permanently in some regions.

They'd rather not do that because their leaders have sold their souls to the devil. For them, the pains and suffering of people worldwide is regarded as an achievement and a thing of pride.

Symphony007:
The dumb Russians and Chinese instead of coming up with their own technology is constantly thinking of stealing from the u.s and when they don't succeed, they send their third rate propaganda media to trash it, which is hilarious because nobody outside their indoctrinated populace listens or believes it......have they quit trying to steal the blueprints for the B2 stealth bomber that can fly passed the kremlin and the great Hall of the people without being seen on radar? keep trying folks or at least use your brain and come up with yours.

Pls do your research about the russian S-400 defence system. The B2 bomber is toast for the Russians. The pentagon is running scared already
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/14/pentagon-fears-it-s-not-ready-for-a-war-with-putin.html

seagulsntrawler:

Pls do your research about the russian S-400 defence system. The B2 bomber is toast for the Russians. The pentagon is running scared already
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/14/pentagon-fears-it-s-not-ready-for-a-war-with-putin.html

guess you did'nt even read the article you posted! The military chiefs said they can still beat russia despite the fact that the u.s military is locked on two battles in the middle east! Says alot about the strength of the u.s military who took down the largest military in the middle east,iraq in under 100 days...heck, putin is too scared to launch a ground invasion in Ukraine...where was the stupid Russian system when the B2 bomber entered the far east and buzzed the DMZ to massive objections from Russia. China and other cronies :Dbe guided my friend.

[quote author=Symphony007 post=37073735] guess you did'nt even read the article you posted! The military chiefs said they can still beat russia despite the fact that the u.s military is locked on two battles in the middle east! Says alot about the strength of the u.s military who took down the largest military in the middle east,iraq in under 100 days...heck, putin is too scared to launch a ground invasion in Ukraine...where was the stupid Russian system when the B2 bomber entered the far east and buzzed the DMZ to massive objections from Russia. China and other cronies :Dbe guided my friend.[/quo
So you think i`d provide you with a link without reading it first? Smh.
If they can beat the Russians,the question is at what cost?
So beating a depleted and sanction weakened Iraqi army is something to brag about? The cowardly US army even had to build a coalition force to go into Iraq in 2003. Aside Afghanistan where US forces have been greatly reduced, where else in the ME are they engaged? Iraq? Syria?Yemen?

[quote author=seagulsntrawler post=37074483][/quote] where else are they engaged? The u.s has troops on every continent in the world, africom,soccom,etc..they have the largest military presence there is and where is russia on he world map? And yes, they will beat russia and with moderate cost considering they have the military budget of russia and the next 10 other military nation's combined. ...let's not forget they have the military bases on every continent in the world and aircraft carrier on all the world's seven seas so they ca launch an attack on russia and it's interest from anywhere, meanwhile russia can only operate from it's homeland. need I say more?

At the end of the day i wont be surprise they will sell it to Nigeria at an exorbitant price and come back later to criticize the same equipment they sold to us. Smart ass yankees!


Scam! Scam! scam! everywhere as long as we have Politicians and Cabals.

Symphony007:
where else are they engaged? The u.s has troops on every continent in the world, africom,soccom,etc..they have the largest military presence there is and where is russia on he world map? And yes, they will beat russia and with moderate cost considering they have the military budget of russia and the next 10 other military nation's combined. ...let's not forget they have the military bases on every continent in the world and aircraft carrier on all the world's seven seas so they ca launch an attack on russia and it's interest from anywhere, meanwhile russia can only operate from it's homeland. need I say more?

You don't need a strong navy for world dominance. That era is long over. The unfolding game will be played in Euroasia for the next 100 years and Russia and China are leading the way. Russia can obliterate the US with precision guided missiles fitted with nuclear warheads. This article will throw more light on what I am saying. Its a bit lengthy though. Enjoy
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42074.htm

KingGeorge1:
At the end of the day i wont be surprise they will sell it to Nigeria at an exorbitant price and come back later to criticize the same equipment they sold to us. Smart ass yankees!


Scam! Scam! scam! everywhere as long as we have Politicians and Cabals.

The thing tire everybody ooh. Sad thing is d cabals are everywhere.

seagulsntrawler:

You don't need a strong navy for world dominance. That era is long over. The unfolding game will be played in Euroasia for the next 100 years and Russia and China are leading the way. Russia can obliterate the US with precision guided missiles fitted with nuclear warheads. This article will throw more light on what I am saying. Its a bit lengthy though. Enjoy
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42074.htm

nuclear warheads? That's where you're headed now? Russia has a monopoly of nuclear weapons? Vladimir putin will try what nikita kruchev did'nt? Topic just got stale..

Symphony007:
nuclear warheads? That's where you're headed now? Russia has a monopoly of nuclear weapons? Vladimir putin will try what nikita kruchev did'nt? Topic just got stale..

Ooh, the US knew about the Russian nukes and yet continued with the aggression against her. Russia has reinstated that it retains first strike capability to defend her territory and sovereignty. So the Unitedsnake should buzz off and look for easy prey.
Lastly, a case of MAD(mutual assured destruction) is likely should the US continue with her belligerent acts against Russia.

illmatic101:
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F35 is a next generation bomber

Symphony007:
Russia today article? Rubbish...before the Russians turn experts in military tech let them graduate from owning one aircraft carrier to two, talk less of getting 12 and building two more like the United States has and is doing! shows the utter inferiority complex the Russians feel against America that they are obsessed by their progress while the u.s could hardly care what happens in that hell hole...

Shut the hell up.

You are the dumbfuck here. Do you know about jets more than Pierre Sprey?

Pierre Sprey, born in 1937,[1] is a defense analyst and record producer. Together with John Boyd and Thomas P. Christie, he was a member of the self-dubbed 'Fighter Mafia', advocating the use of energy–maneuverability theory in fighter design.

Sprey was born in Nice, France, and raised in New York.[2] He was educated at Yale, where he studied aeronautical engineering and French literature, and also at Cornell, where he studied mathematical statistics and operations research. He subsequently worked at Grumman Aircraft as a consulting statistician.[1] From 1966 to 1970 he was a special assistant at the Office of the Secretary of Defense.[3]

The 'Fighter Mafia' worked behind the scenes in the late 1960s to pursue a lightweight fighter as an alternative to the F-15. The group strongly believed that an ideal fighter should not include any of the sophisticated radar and missile systems or rudimentary ground-attack capability that found their way into the F-15. Their goal, based on energy–maneuverability theory, was a small, low-drag, low-weight, pure fighter with no bomb racks. This led to the highly successful F-16. He also wrote the initial requirements for the A-X program that became the A-10 and optimized its safety features. The "Warthog" appears ungainly, but is "enormously difficult to shoot down", and "devastating against tanks and other armored vehicles."[2]

He is a critic of the F-35. He asserts that despite its 200 million dollar price tag per plane, it is less agile than the F-16, and flies at altitudes and speeds too high and fast to replace the A-10. Compared to the F-16 or A-10 (in both of whose operational roles it is marketed to operate) he characterized the F-35 as overweight and dangerous, stating “It’s as if Detroit suddenly put out a car with lighter fluid in the radiator and gasoline in the hydraulic brake lines: That’s how unsafe this plane is…" and "full of bugs".[4]

He now records music on his own label "Mapleshade" and sells high-end stereo equipment. His recording with the ARC Choir singing "Walk With Me" appears in Kanye West's hit "Jesus Walks." Sprey said he earned enough royalties from the West song "to support 30 of my money-losing jazz albums

You dumbshit? He designed A10 and F - 16, the best jet fighter US ever created.

Just watch his interviews. He nicknamed F-22 and F-35 as "turkey", can't run and can't fight. Even the stealth capability is crap.

An aircraft that requires 10 hours of maintenance for every hour flight? Look, even Mig 29 will beat the hell out of these over hyped F-nonsense.

Why do you think made Canada cancel her orders?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQB4W8C0rZI&hl=en-GB&gl=NG

IbnSultaan:


F35 is a next generation bomber

No...
F22 to me is still the best

Symphony007:
[s] guess you did'nt even read the article you posted! The military chiefs said they can still beat russia despite the fact that the u.s military is locked on two battles in the middle east! Says alot about the strength of the u.s military who took down the largest military in the middle east,iraq in under 100 days...heck, putin is too scared to launch a ground invasion in Ukraine...where was the stupid Russian system when the B2 bomber entered the far east and buzzed the DMZ to massive objections from Russia. China and other cronies :Dbe guided my friend[/s].

Dumbfool. Stop chatting what is beyond your IQ.

illmatic101:


No...
F22 to me is still the best

Stop believing nonsense. F 22 is the most useless piece of engineering of all time.