₦airaland Forum

pazienza:
So, after the war,
Gen. Gowon declared that ‘there
was no victor and no vanquish’.
This comment pleased Nigerians
and it was expected that the
government will abide by our words
by ensuring that all tribal
sentiments or fears being expressed
before the civil war will be catered
for. However, the contrary is the
case up till this present day. The
military did not only create chaos
but rather fully implemented a tribal
agenda by ensuring that major
appointments go to the North while
secondary appointment goes to the
next strongest opposition who
fought along with them i.e. the
Yorubas. The Yorubas have not
forgotten their rivalry between the
major tribes and as such used
Lagos as a pretext that it is the
federal capital and so allocated
most resources that goes to the
centre to develop the west while
continue to blackmail any other tribe
person who might struggle
appointments with them except
those strong rivals from the north.

Good u highlighted that. U see, the problem of Nigeria is the problem of all tribes.....igbos, ijaws, kalabaris.... urhobos.... name it.

We need a national Congress to address these issues and not lots out as cowards. we should be agitating for a SNC

[b] Therefore, various tribal leaders simply wait at the centre (FGN) for proceeds from oil revenue to be shared among themselves. YES! General Yakubu Gowon (retired) had declared that the war is over, but is it really over? Even if the average man on the street accepts that the war is over but those tribal leaders who fought, have they agreed to drop their positions? The same leaders today have taken up traditional, ministerial, political, ambassadorial, senatorial and all kinds of appointment from the Federal, State and from all government parastatals and commissions. When they retire from appointment or service, they simply need to re-declare their ages and pick up another appointment or their stooges and children taking up those appointments. Some have to serve the military for a number of years, retire and after 20 years become president at the age of 60 years. Immediately after the civil war, the military played a very important role in the present day crisis, rather than being an impartial judge of what happened, they [military] consolidated the position of the victor. In so doing, censor figures were manipulated to favour the victor, states and local governments were created to favour the victor, national identity was based on the victor, tribal leaders were promoted and propagated as national leaders, religion was manipulated to favour the victor, national dressing was manipulated to favour the victor, appointments were manipulated to favour the victor, the present day Nigerian currency also carries the faces of the victor(Tribal leaders) and virtually all national identities and characters were geared toward the victor. Today, these issues are becoming prominent and therefore some have presented themselves as Nigerians while the rest are appendixes. The victor now had a lot of bargaining power and a lot of wealth to influence the society at large. [/b]

Duru1:
Nobody gives a ratass whether a dumbass believes in sovereignty of Nigeria as a country or not. However, there are people who would want to opt out of the cesspit called Nigeria. There are ethnic nationalities not suitable as compatriots hence the need to secede.

If they must secceed, they would do that at their own terms, to form their own nation. So stop forcing viagra on them.

Thank you op. When the Niger Delta struggled against the degradation of their land. They did it on their own in the creeks.

They fought and are still fighting against the Rape of their lands

How many Igbos joined them in the fight.

Now they want to use them to fight their own Battle. It is now they remember that there are their brothers.

The article was more of indictment against the victors( Arewa-Odua) than against Ndiigbo.

pazienza:
The article was more of indictment against the victors( Arewa-Odua) than against Ndiigbo.

the article was more of a call to actions to all niger deltans to not forget who they are and where they are coming from.

shachris:
If they must secceed, they would do that at their own terms, to form their own nation. So stop forcing viagra on them.

Yes. I agree wit u

shachris:
Good u highlighted that. U see, the problem of Nigeria is the problem of all tribes.....igbos, ijaws, kalabaris.... urhobos.... name it.

We need a national Congress to address these issues and not lots out as cowards. we should be agitating for a SNC

I don't know what the Ijaw problem is, when they were given Rivers state to govern, did they show equity to smaller groups there? Wasn't that the reason for the demand for Ph state by the Igboid part of the old Rivers state, a demand that ended with the Ijaws given Bayelsa state. The Igboids themselves, since the Ijaws left Rivers state, have they ( Igboids) not hijacked the politics of Rivers state, have they given the likes of Ogoni and Andoni chance to lead? From Odili to Amaechi now to Wike, all Igboids.

But I know Ndiigbo need Biafra, and from the article, the Ijaws want total unhindered control of their resources which the victors( Arewa-Odua) seized after the war.
My bet is that their best chance of regaining control of the wealth is by secession from Arewa-Odua, in that aspect, they share same goal with Ndiigbo.

It's only logical that if the Igbo and Ijaw work together, our chances of achieving our goals will become tripled. Which explains why most Arewa-Odua people develop palpitations at the prospect of Igbo-Ijaw unity, it spells doom for you lots.

leave the foolish yoruba to their illusions that BIAFRA is igbo thing. the truth is what you have just told them and every other ignornt igbo or so called niger deltan. biafra is the hope of africa.

oweniwe:
People are ignorant

Biafra pre-dates the civil war.

Long before Nigeria ' s formal colonization, the areas from ebonyi to d bordrr of the Benin kingdom was known as Biafra.

What is presently called Bight of Bonny was formerly called Bight of Biafra.

So generalizing Biafra as igbo name/struggle/domination is very very wrong

gmaribel:
Thank you op. When the Niger Delta struggled against the degradation of their land. They did it on their own in the creeks.

They fought and are still fighting against the Rape of their lands

How many Igbos joined them in the fight.

Now they want to use them to fight their own Battle. It is now they remember that there are their brothers.

Dont mind igbo. Just because they voted Jonathan in 2015 election south south will not hear word again. As if they cared. They voted Jonathan because he allowed them to steal and loot.

Txonyi:
leave the foolish yoruba to their illusions that BIAFRA is igbo thing. the truth is what you have just told them and every other ignornt igbo or so called niger deltan. biafra is the hope of africa.

You are deluded

The ijaws has been confused since the creation of the zoo,
still confuse till date.
Ijaws why na abi ogogoro still the disturb una?

shachris:
If they must secceed, they would do that at their own terms, to form their own nation. So stop forcing viagra on them.

It is only in the mind of a deluded and moronic dingbat that anything is forced on anybody within Nigeria in terms of secession. When the appropriate time shows up, Ndiigbo will exhale.

Why South South Nations Won't Join Biafra. South South nations
will rather form thier Own Confederation or seperate Nations


Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election
as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to Biafra. This
deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because
they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish
and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is complete different from
Biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and
Hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba
instead.


As far as I am concern IGBO, YORUBA and HAUSA are all
benefitting from the current system. Afterall an IGBO man Gen
Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in 1966 that
we are complaining against today. When Isaac Adaka Boro wanted
to form Ijaw Nation Republic in 1966 it was Igbo Head of State Gen
Agunyi Ironsi that fought him with a 12 days war.



The Igbo claim to be one of us because some south south states
were part of the old Eastern region. First of all, eastern region was
created by Nigeria for Nigeria convenience. It was not a decision of
the nationalities that made up the old eastern region. Secondly
before most people forget, today edo and delta state were never at
anytime part of eastern region. edo and delta were first Western
region later became Midwestern region, then change to Bendel
state before becoming edo and delta state today. some tribes
speak Yoruba in edo and delta state. why is Yoruba not claiming
edo and delta state the way Igbo is claiming rivers and delta states
because some people speak ibo in those states?


Igbo may have succeeded in brainwashing some south south people
that they are one of us, it is a big lie. They may have succeeded in
brainwashing some of us that only hausa and Yoruba is the
problem of south south, it is a big lie. They are the same as far as I
am concern.
The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule,
control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in
Population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is
four times the size of Sigapore. if Qatar and Sigapore can be a
country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think
Ijaw people dont want to be like qatar and enjoy thier oil alone like
Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south
south by population and second to the last by landmass!!
Below is the size of south south states and south east states. South
South is almost 3times the size of south East.





Yet the population of South east is almost 80% of south south
population base on 2006 census. But by the time you add igbo who
are currently leaving outside south east, you will discover that thier
population is more than all the south south put together. More than
90% of the resources (oil, gas, limestones,etc) are in the south
south. The whole of South East is landlock with no direct access to
the sea or atlantic ocean. but almost all the south south states
have direct assess to the sea and atlantic ocean. Some we say
they have River Niger. River Niger is not a sea or an ocean for big
Ships.


Tell me why South South Nations will want to form a country with
south east if they have a choice ? all south east will bring to the
table is population and domination? The total oil production from
south east is not up to 10% of south south oil production!
If you are the leader of south south nations will you advice them to
form a country with south east if they have the option of forming
their own country alone? give a sincere answer?



As far as I am concern, as unbrainwashed south south , there is no
difference between the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me, these are
three major tribe struggling and fighting for Supiriority. Whenever
any of the three is loosing, he shout Marginalization.
During Jonathan govt, the Igbo was gaining and were in control and
was happy. The Yoruba were losing and were shouting
Marginalization. The hausa/fulani were not happy because they
were not fully in control. For the North we can slightly understand
because in the 16years of democracy (May 1999 to May 2015) the
south ruled 13.3years while the North had just 2.7years
The Igbo don't love south south more than the hausa or Yoruba love
us. All the three tribe are all struggling for the control of south
south oil. None of the three is better than the other as far as we
south south are concern.


The only place south south nationalities agree with Igbo is Nigeria
should divide. However while south south clamour for succession is
base on lack of true fiscal Federalism, on the other hand, igbo
clamour for succession is base on IGBO BORN TO RULE, CONTROL
AND EXPLOIT MENTALITY. Igbo make noise and claim d north have
born to rule mentality because of Sokoto State former motto of
born to rule which they have change. The People with the true born
to rule mentality are d Igbo. it is because they are not having thier
way that they are complaining and making all d noise all over
Nigeria.
But how and why Nigeria will and should divide, what we want and
what they want is as different as d distance of the earth to d moon.
South south want thier own freedom. we will support Biafra as Igbo
only nation while they should support us to form our own nation or
nations. But trying to add us as an appendage to Biafra will never
happen.




If south south join Biafra, our individual identities will be wiped out
in less than 50years. They will convert every south south nationality
to Igbo. And they will so much take charge of the oil and resources
with reckless abandon without any regard to d minorities.
LET EVERYONE FORMS HIS OWN NATION. SOUTH SOUTH NATIONS
DONT WANT IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA IN THIER NATION. WE
DONT WANT ANY DOMINANT TRIBE TO CONTROL US IF OR WHEN
NIGERIA DIVIDE.
They will argue that there are some igbo in rivers state, delta state
and edo state. As far as i am concern Igbo speaking people in
south south will join Niger delta republic or confederation. Their are
Hausa people in Niger, there are Yoruba people in Benin Republic
and Togo, that does not make those yoruba and hausa speaking
people in those countries Nigerians.?





The south south nationalities can form a confederation with United
Arab Emirate template, where seven different nationalities came
together to form a confederation with each nationality having some
form of autonomy.
if the south east want to join the confederation they can join. We
can't leave nigeria and go and form another normal single country
were there is a dominant tribe. That will be moving from frying pan
to fire.
Just like the United Ararb emirate asked qatar and behrain to join
them, but qatar and behrain choose to form thier individual
countries.



What Biafra represent is a single country with a powerful centre
where a dominant tribe can control. South south dont want that. If
we must fight or struggle for succession, we need a new name like
"United State of niger delta" or any other name which clearly shows
a union rather than a single country.



In summary, my point is if Nigeria will divide peacefully by United
Nations referendum, south south will not join Biafra. South South
will form its own nation/nations. The only way south south and
south east will form a single country like Biafra is if Nigeria divide
by War because population will be important in size of Army.
My Igbo neighbour may not like this submission, but it is the bitter
truth

pazienza:
I don't know what the Ijaw problem is, when they were given Rivers state to govern, did they show equity to smaller groups there? Wasn't that the reason for the demand for Ph state by the Igboid part of the old Rivers state, a demand that ended with the Ijaws given Bayelsa state. The Igboids themselves, since the Ijaws left Rivers state, have they ( Igboids) not hijacked the politics of Rivers state, have they given the likes of Ogoni and Andoni chance to lead? From Odili to Amaechi now to Wike, all Igboids.

But I know Ndiigbo need Biafra, and from the article, the Ijaws want control of the resources which the victors( Arewa-Odua) seized after the war.
My bet is that their best chance of regaining control of the wealth is by secession from Arewa-Odua, in that aspect, they share same goal with Ndiigbo.

It's only logical that if the Igbo and Ijaw work together, our chances of achieving our goals will become tripled. Which explains why most Arewa-Odua people develop palpitations at the prospect of Igbo-Ijaw unity, it spells doom for you lots.

what makes u think that the ijaws would trust igbos even when rivers, a majority ijaw state is being governed by the igboiod tribes?

pazienza:
I don't know what the Ijaw problem is, when they were given Rivers state to govern, did they show equity to smaller groups there? Wasn't that the reason for the demand for Ph state by the Igboid part of the old Rivers state, a demand that ended with the Ijaws given Bayelsa state. The Igboids themselves, since the Ijaws left Rivers state, have they ( Igboids) not hijacked the politics of Rivers state, have they given the likes of Ogoni and Andoni chance to lead? From Odili to Amaechi now to Wike, all Igboids.

But I know Ndiigbo need Biafra, and from the article, the Ijaws want control of the resources which the victors( Arewa-Odua) seized after the war.
My bet is that their best chance of regaining control of the wealth is by secession from Arewa-Odua, in that aspect, they share same goal with Ndiigbo.

It's only logical that if the Igbo and Ijaw work together, our chances of achieving our goals will become tripled. Which explains why most Arewa-Odua people develop palpitations at the prospect of Igbo-Ijaw unity, it spells doom for you lots.

Bros I do not give a ratass what Ijo do about their nationality. However, one thing is sure, thus, today is not 1967 and the approach this time around shall look like day and night when compared to 1967.

Txonyi:
leave the foolish yoruba to their illusions that BIAFRA is igbo thing. the truth is what you have just told them and every other ignornt igbo or so called niger deltan. biafra is the hope of africa.

Hope of africa ko, Hope of Okirika ni. Viagra is only the Hope of nnamdi kanu and his next generation of scammers. dude is building an empire on top ur zombie head.

Duru1:
Bros I do not give a ratass what Ijo do about their nationality. However, one thing is sure, thus, today is not 1967 and the approach this time around shall look like day and night when compared to 1967.

the stop roping niger deltans into your viagra. fight your fight alone and stop looking for conspirators like a coward.

...and Nairaland admin keeps mum on doing the needful on the impostor called Sachris. Smh

shachris:
the stop roping niger deltans into your viagra. fight your fight alone and stop looking for conspirators like a coward.

Öfemmanù alert !!

Decibel:
...and Nairaland admin keeps mum on doing the needful on the impostor called Sachris. Smh

okenye anaghi ano na oche nopia mkpuru amu. Go to bed, kid.

Ugomba:
@OP. do you mean that there are no Igbos in Niger Delta?
I am a Proud Delta State Igbo, #representing always..
And Delta State is an oil producing state.

The OP are the types that betray their fatherland and just like Stalin and Molotov, I'd ve no qualms signing their execution papers
Moreso,in Biafra these states would be dissolved and reconstituted on the basis of cultural areas.so for you ugomba would now be from enuani cultural area etc

shachris:
the stop roping niger deltans into your viagra. fight your fight alone and stop looking for conspirators like a coward.

The so-called and goofy "niger deltans" shall never be part of the variables in equation for the actualization of Republic of Igbo land or even often-mentioned Biafra.

shachris:
okenye anaghi ano na oche nopia mkpuru amu. Go to bed, kid.

Hahahaha...usu dika gi.

Decibel:
Öfemmanù alert !!

I'm not a coward like u zombies and your albino master. Igbos Do not force others to fight their fight.

cheruv:
The OP are the types that betray their fatherland and just like Stalin and Molotov, I'd ve no qualms signing their execution papers
Moreso,in Biafra these states would be dissolved and reconstituted on the basis of cultural areas.so for you ugomba would now be from enuani cultural area etc

Why are u forcing your identity on people that do not want to be identified with you? you have not even gotten ur viagra, you have already start renaming tribes....smh for these frauds and their zombie fantasies.

Duru1:
The so-called and goofy "niger deltans" shall never be part of the variables in equation for the actualization of Republic of Igbo land or even often-mentioned Biafra.

good. So tell your dilector to stop mentioning niger delta territories as igbo lands. we igbos do not steal people's lands and identities. That is Why we answer 'okezie'

Decibel:
Hahahaha...usu dika gi.

nwa mkpi nkita na aracha Ike.

shachris:
what makes u think that the ijaws would trust igbos even when rivers, a majority ijaw state is being governed by the igboiod tribes?

With or without the Ijaws, Ndiigbo will achieve Biafra. This is not about trust, it's about getting what you need, by working with people you might not necessarily like.

shachris:
nwa mkpi nkita na aracha Ike.

Ujoatu malu onwe ebe a!

shachris:
nwa mkpi nkita na aracha Ike.

Ujoatu malu onwe gi ebe a!

shachris:
good. So tell your dilector to stop mentioning niger delta territories as igbo lands. we igbos do not steal people's lands and identities. That is Why we answer 'okezie'

"Niger delta territories", by this nebulous term I suppose you mean Ijaw speaking territories, No?