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Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by abduljabbar4(m): 2:58am On Aug 21, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:I always laugh at their spirit stories. They use it to defend the undefendable. Well done bro |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 6:10am On Aug 21, 2015 |
Medicis:yes he is coming back as an Arab, see this verse matt24:27 "for as lightening that comes from THE EAST, is even visible than the west SO SHALL BE THE COMING OF SON OF MAN", the bible has thoroughly defined the east as the arab nation. Why come back as an Arab? prophet Muhammad(s.a.w) made a stunning prophesy about the anti-Christ(dajjal in Arabic) that he will be a young man, with very curly hair, he will be ONE EYED he will stay for 40 days 1 day will be like a year another 1 day will be like a month and another 1 day will be like a year then the rest of the days will be like our normal days, he will create mischief on earth, there is no place on earth he will not step on except Medina , he will be killed by isa(jesus) at gate of lud(in Jerusalem). jesus will descend on the eastern part of Damascus(white minaret, Arab nation) dressed in the two yellow garments with his hands resting on the arms of two angels , its making a lot of sense now why he will come as an Arab right? ONE EYED?? you know, today the church of Satan worship baphomet and their sign is THE ONE EYE what does it mean? are they awaiting the anti-christ which Muhammad has prophesied of over 1200 years ago?? isn't it astonishing? subhanallah. this is the more reason why you should believe in him. 1 Like |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 6:32am On Aug 21, 2015 |
adewalker:salamualaikum bro, jesus is coming back an arab. see up, what i typed there |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 8:49am On Aug 21, 2015 |
adewalker:Prove your claims! But you are deeply biased! Jesus said John 3:3, Matthew 5:20 but not John 3:16!!! What criterion did you use in your cherry-picking exercise? And how will you say what you are practising right now exceeds that of the pharisees? Remember pharisees believed the greatest commandment in the law! christian scholars,jehovah witnesses etc are not the Holy Spirit. Besides can you name some of such scholars? We already know that the last days will be characterised by deception and unfortunately here you are quoting their deception! I hope you know the judgement awaiting those who take away from or add to God's Word? So John 3:16 is not in red??!! This action of yours is bias vividly illustrated! John 14:2 are Christ's Words and are in red! In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you Was this spoken to grasses and shrubs? 42 Jesus said unto them, [size=14pt]If[/size] God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:42-44 1 John 4:1-3 said to test the spirits! WHY? Because there are many teachers and scholars that deny Jesus and claim to have the Spirit but they lie! What they have is the spirit of the antichrist! Beware who you support! |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 2:52pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
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Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by adewalker(m): 3:18pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:. Wa laikum salam brother...may Allah bless u for the correction,nice work...jumat mubarak |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by adewalker(m): 3:56pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Scholar8200:. I try to be simple with my words as easy as it could be,the NIV bible threw jhn 3:16 out,the jehovah witness also threw it out,becos they didn't find it in the most ancient bible manuscript they found,It wasn't me that said it wasn't there,it was ur bible scholars who said it,so I said,since ur bible scholars already said its a fabrication,let us now check for the other jesus words that they said is nt a fabrication,and in these words of jesus,there's no place where he said I am God,absolutely no where....now u see there are about thirty thousands ancient manuscript of the new testaments...and and there's no two of this that are identical,some of the manuscripts don't even mention the cruxifriction of jesus,some say directly he didn't even die,another manuscript written by barnabas one of the 12 desciples of jesus,didn't even mention death of jesus,this manuscrip also states the coming of a prophet after jesus...and all this writers claim to have had the holy spirit...ur early preachers,just went to these different manuscript and picked the one that suited them,they didn't ask for the holy spirit,the jst decided to pick the one that suits them,becos they wanted to catch fish...now u mention the holyspirit concerning jhn 3:16,ur scholars that reject this verse claim to have the holy spirit,the jehovah, witness also say they have the holy spirit and they reject it,and yet u also claim u have the holy spirit u accept it...u guys are deceiving urself,any spirit of God,will never confuse humans,rather it will guide them to all truth just like jesus said,and that spirit of truth is mohammad,he guided man to all truth,all ur problems,he gave us the answers...the white man jst came and told u that someone died for ur sins,and u could nt even him ask him questions,becos u already think the white man is always right,u are reading the bible where jesus says,ur God is one,bt the white brain washes u and says no,ur God is three,jesus is saying sumtyn and the white man brainwashes u to understand the opposite...pls my brother,remove urself from this brainwashing and ask ur preachers questions,and believe me,they will never be able to give u answers becos it's nt 4rm God,the hindus also claim buddha is God incarnate,so they worship buddha,christians say jesus is God incarnate so they worship jesus...this is pure blasphemy |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 4:06pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
adewalker:You appear to readily agree with pharisees, gnostics & their apocryphal writings, false teachers/scholars and people possessed with the spirit of the antichrist simply because their deeds and actions agree with your position! But realise that only the Truth will call forth frantic efforts by the father of lies, to destroy, corrupt, edit,twist etc But God Preserves His Word! Psalm 12:6,7 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 4:18pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Scholar8200:ok(i'm saying this for him). |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 4:28pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:Are you closing the thread? Time to go home? |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 4:30pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Scholar8200:LOL, I opened it, but only the mods could close it. BTW did you read my post about the anti-christ being one-eyed? |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 5:01pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:Yes. Anything? |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by adewalker(m): 5:05pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Scholar8200:. So I guess u are saying the bible scholars of the NIV are devils,and the jehovah witnesses are devils,next time I see one,I will tell him,his fellow christian said he's a devil....this wat am telling u,that ur preachers already polluted the words,they are attributing to jesus wat he didn't say...ur bible is in pure english,and yet u are understanding the opposite of wat jesus is saying,its amazing hw people get deceived,jst amazing |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 5:08pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
adewalker:How right will it be to ascribe your incorrect guess to any one! But any one who distorts, twists, edits etc the Word is guilty meaning you cannot know them except you know the Word and what it says! 1 Like |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 5:13pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Scholar8200:have anything to say about it? disprove my claim that east means the arab nation(damascus to be precise) according to matt24:27? |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 5:45pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:Matthew 24:27,28 27 For just as the lightning flashes from the east and shines and [h]is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 Wherever there is a fallen body (a corpse), there the vultures (or eagles) will flock together. Vs 27 makes use of a simile to describe the Second coming of Jesus Christ and Vs 28 uses a parable; just as we cannot read intrinsic meanings with Vs 28 but symbolic, so also we cannot for Vs 27. Christ Second coming as an event that will end the anti-christ reign with a battle was described in Zechariah 12:8,9,10 and Zechariah 14:3-4 Let me highlight this; 9 And it shall be in that day that I will make it My aim to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace or unmerited favor and supplication. And they shall look [earnestly] upon Me Whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him as one who is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zechariah 12:9,10 They will realise that the Messiah was actually He that they rejected and crucified (pierced) then and will mourn but they will be comforted! Zechariah 14:3,4 (also prophesied in Revelations 19:11-21) Then shall the Lord go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle. 4 And His feet shall stand in that day upon the Mount of Olives, which lies before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from the east to the west by a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north and half of it toward the south. This same prophecy was reiterated by John: 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7 After the battle and judgement of the anti-christ, this will occur: Zechariah 14:9 And the Lord shall be King over all the earth; in that day the Lord shall be one [in the recognition and worship of men] and His name one. Reiterated in Revelations 20:4 and Ezekiel 37:21-28, Isaiah 60 etc The combination of Gnosticism and Illuminati (symbolised by one-eyed diagram and Serpent swallowing its tail) have always being around. Both focuses knowledge and enlightenement; the one specialises in religion while the other focuses the secular. In fact, John the beloved warned of them (gnostics) meaning right from 80-100 AD/CE, they recognised these people as invention of the spirit of the antichrist, a kind of forerunner for the real one that will still come. 1 Like |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 6:09pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
@scholar8200, with your points i think you agreed that jesus is coming as an arab as muhammad prophesied. i agree with some of your points and disagree with some, but thats not my point. was the anti-christ described as one eyed explicitly in the bible? i wanted you to address that also |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 6:16pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:No. The anti-christ /man of sin/ son of perdition is described in a number of places but his being one-eyed was not mentioned. My reference to gnosticism & illuminati and John's allusion to followers of the former as early as 80-100 CE, as those influenced by the spirit of antichrist, shows that the common knowledge among believers then (80-100 CE) was that the people identified with the various gnostic and/or illuminati symbols were forerunners to the antichrist himself hence the one-eyed symbol and others could also be linked thereto. Besides Zechariah 12:9,10 shows that He will be appreciated by Israel as the Messiah(not an Arab). 1 Like |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 6:24pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Scholar8200:could you give other verses that talks about the east? and please address the one-eyed prophesied by muhammad(if it is not in the bible, simply say it). |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 7:08pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:There are many of them! When you say East, you have to give from which point? That is , East of ___ (a Centre point). 1. Genesis 13:11 11 Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east: and they separated themselves the one from the other. Somewhere not too far from sodom. 2. Judges 6:3 And so it was, when Israel had sown, that the Midianites came up, and the Amalekites, and the children of the east, even they came up against them; Midianites and Amalekites: two nation that were sworn enemies of Israel 3. Matthew 2:1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judæa in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, The east referred to here is Medo- Persia (Cyrus' homeland) etc It is not in the Bible. 1 Like |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Nobody: 7:26pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Scholar8200:east that talks about damascus. the bible never mentioned the one eyed person? well muhammad did and even gave full description of the anti-christ. he also gave the description of what jesus will wear upon descending the earth through damascus, coming holding the wings of two angels and jesus will kill the anti-christ right in front of the gates of lud(jerusalem). do you think muhammad said all these out of his own knowledge? nay! Allah revealed it to him, for he his the prophet that speak(prophesy) not of his own authority but only speak(prophesy) when told to by his Lord, just as the quran and injeel(jesus gospel) described him. |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Scholar8200(m): 7:58pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:Proofs pls. Amos 1:5, Isaiah 7:8, 2 Kings 16:10 shows Damascus is in Syria and of all the places where Damascus is mentioned, there is no link of it being east of ___! Isaiah, Zechariah, Ezekiel, Daniel , Paul, John etc all prophesied all these events in striking details and agreement, some of which have started unfolding before our eyes today. The reference to one-eye and that this symbol has links with a group/cult invented by the spirit of the anti-christ (so identified as early as 80-100 AD/CE,) suggests that Mohammed was not ignorant of them, their symbol and what the 'People of the Book' called them (fore-runners of the man-the anti-christ) hence his declaration! Isnt this logical? 1 Like |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Samunique(m): 12:47am On Aug 22, 2015 |
Medicis:May the Lord blessed bless u richly for this good work u did here. BLESS U SIR. 1 Like |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by OneJ: 10:52pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
does this silence from the christians implies the christians agree that the bible is corrupted from the points I gave?Omo, them dey fear the truth. Them no want to hear anything wey go burst their fallacy. |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Primesky(m): 10:52am On Jun 27, 2018 |
Don't be deceived by this OP. This is the season of great deception. Hold tight to your faith. The assault will increase because the devils time is short. Jesus said it Himself that He and the Father are one. Let no man deceive you. Anybody who claims the bible is false, the same is a deceiver. From such, run away! |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by OneJ: 1:51pm On Jun 27, 2018 |
[quote author=Primesky post=68867387]Don't be deceived by this OP. This is the season of great deception. Hold tight to your faith. The assault will increase because the devils time is short. Jesus said it Himself that He and the Father are one. Let no man deceive you. Anybody who claims the bible is false, the same is a deceiver. From such, run away! [/quote The OP is very correct. That verse ,1John5:7 as well as 1tim 3:16 (KJV) were forgeries. Jesus & his father are one in the same manner that Jesus & his disciples are one; Just as husband & wife are one..John 17:11,21. Amos3:3 ,Matt19:4-6. That is they are in agreement, cooperation, unity of thought & purpose. Ignorance is still a curable disease. Pls do a thorough research & find out the truth about the matter. |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by Primesky(m): 10:18pm On Jun 27, 2018 |
[quote author=OneJ post=68872739][/quote] Then what will you say about John 1:1-3?. Did John also lie?. You people are funny. Who revealed the lie to you?. I'm not surprised, but I'm saddened as to the level and reach of deception manifesting before our eyes. Those clearly in the wrong will vehemently claim right with tangible proofs as well. Otherwise, how will they be able to almost deceive the very elect?. Be careful what you say bro. This knowledge of a thing shouldn't destroy you. It's the same tactics the devil used in the garden against eve. Your eyes will be open and you will know between good and evil. Very well their eyes got opened, but death quickly followed. The devil never told them that one. Be very careful. It may look right, sound true, feel safe, yet, it's deadly!. The answer to all these questions is a personal relationship with God. No matter what men may do or have done, it can never stop you from having a true relationship with God and knowing what is true about Him. God made you a trinity yourself, and here you're saying it's not possible. When anybody looks at you, how many of you do they see?. Isn't it one person?, yet there are three distict you!. Of all the three (body, soul and spirit), one is superior in authority compared to the others, which is the spirit. But the three are the same. Except for the soul which was corrupted by sin, but now cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. As for the flesh, Jesus promised to change it to a glorified body. If God made you in His own image and after His likeness, just what and what do you think that entails?. Do nota be hasty in your conclusions so that you don't fall into iniquity. God is one. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One in three and three in one. |
Re: The Lie Of 1john 5:7 and corruption of the bible. by OneJ: 12:53pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Primesky ,1John5:7, 1tim3:16 (KJV) were forgeries in the 16th century manuscripts. These are incontrovertible facts, your belief can't ever change that. Now ,U done run go find solace in John 1:1-3. "in beginning was the word",Jesus had a beginning but Almighty God has no beginning. (Psalms 90:2.) In John 1:1,the Greek manuscript reads "god" (in lowercase), that's not a reference to God the Almighty.(Psalm82:6. 1Cor8:6. 11:3.). John 1:1 never said "the word" was "the god". Except, U deceitfully change "god" (lowercase,in the manuscript) to "God".(big letters,something not in the manuscript ).In English, does "god" & "God" have the same meaning. Pls be honest to yourself). Hebrew1:1-3 gives U clearer understanding of John 1:1-3. The revelation from heaven said "Jesus is the son of the living God" (matt16:13-17. John 20:30,31). Between U & God in heaven, who is more credible? |
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