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Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by Nobody: 7:50pm On Aug 21, 2015
Jozzy4:
You err , " ALL have sinned" romans 3:23
Sure For all have sinned... but what does John 3:16 mean to you. Have everlasting life? how? John 6:53 Eat and have everlasting life. How?
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by dolphinheart(m): 7:53pm On Aug 21, 2015
dmandy:
Ok at least you agree that the one that don't sin shall live.

For your example, none. For all have sinned..but by grace those that repent and believe are forgiven and saved. Is it not in your bible?
Yes I agree, if you are perfect and do not have any sin in you at birth, you can live forever. But answer the question , are ur saints of old born sinners or not?, are they perfect or not?. Did they die or not?

Have you not read jesus statement to his faithful disciples: "even if you die" . Answer the question, did ur saints die or not ?
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by Jozzy4: 7:57pm On Aug 21, 2015
dmandy:
Yes sir, the scriptures told me so. Ecc 12:7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
@ underlined , that means all spirit either righteous or wicked return to God in heaven . Everyone is saved .

Period .
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by Nobody: 8:00pm On Aug 21, 2015
Really? So whether good or wicked returns to God. Who then will be thrown into the lake of fire that the bible talks about?
Jozzy4:
@ underlined , that means all spirit either righteous or wicked return to God in heaven . Everyone is saved .

Period .
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by dolphinheart(m): 8:02pm On Aug 21, 2015
dmandy:
Yes sir, the scriptures told me so. Ecc 12:7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
Did this scripture tell you what happens to their soul ?

If man is the spirit , what then goes to hell, which of the two is conscious , the soul or the spirit after death?. Or are both conscious? Do they go to the same place ?
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by Jozzy4: 8:04pm On Aug 21, 2015
dmandy:
Sure For all have sinned...
And all sining soul dies ! Eze 18:4

But what does John 3:16 mean to you. Have everlasting life? How? John 6:53 Eat and have everlasting life. How?
Everlasting life is not imortal soul , infact if humans have such a ghostly entity in them that means Shem , Sarah , Isaac and Jacob all died and make heaven without jesus dying for their sins .

May i ask : why did jesus died since Isaac and Jacob made heaven without him dying for their sins ?
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by Jozzy4: 8:06pm On Aug 21, 2015
dmandy:
Really? So whether good or wicked returns to God. Who then will be thrown into the lake of fire that the bible talks about?
grin , confuse man , thats wht happen when you dont know the meaning of spirit

Oga , bible said all spirit return to God ? Yes Or No
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by Nobody: 8:12pm On Aug 21, 2015
Jozzy4:
grin , confuse man , thats wht happen when you dont know the meaning of spirit

Oga , bible said all spirit return to God ? Yes Or No
If you think I'm confused, you educate me. All spirits return to God... all flesh return to dust... all souls remain on earth huh huh
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by Jozzy4: 8:46pm On Aug 21, 2015
dmandy:
If you think I'm confused, you educate me.
Go and Educate yourself by understanding the true meaning of the hebrew word *ru'ach* that was translated spirit in ecc 12:7
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by Nobody: 9:00pm On Aug 21, 2015
Jozzy4:
Go and Educate yourself by understanding the true meaning of the hebrew word *ru'ach* that was translated spirit in ecc 12:7
You can help... don't be selfish with your knowledge. Anyways that word means breadth which is same breadth God breathed on Adam.

Did that help my confusion?
Re: What Does It Mean That The Dead Know Nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? by CAPTIVATOR: 12:10pm On Sep 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
The Bible is not just one chapter or the OT. The moment you allow the light of the gospel to shine on your heart you will get holistic picture of what it's all about. smiley
No scripture can contradict that verse !
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