the yardstick don break...

LouisVanGaal:
you have no case abeg! Which party was running all d hate campaign and propaganda on air prior to election PDP is Propaganda-Developed Party...ONLY blind mofos would try to defend the defenceless GEJ

APC began campaign of character assassination,hatred, blackmail, mudslinging and insults before elections...even as far back as 2013/2014...PDP was on defensive during election...Don't twist history plzzz

anulaxad:


First of all I have not insulted you, I live in the UK hence the mentioning of the pound and if anyone has an inferiority complex it will be you as you are so blinded by the truth that beholds you, and for that reason I shall not be responding to you anymore.

[url]https://www.nairaland.com/2344214/jonathans-house-otuoke-where-he
[/url]

This is a lasticlala thread, with official pictures of his estate in otueke. Explain to me how he can afford such an estate with his £32,000 (sorry
10006813.20 Naira) annual salary that is still being built. Not even one mansion there could possible cost that much.


Articles about the farm below:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/investigationspecial-reports/177579-investigation-inside-jonathans-mega-farm-project-covers-six-villages-displaced-residents-barred-from-speaking.html

http://www.punchng.com/news/apc-lawyers-attack-jonathan-over-90-hectare-farmland/

There was even a video shown during election season of the farm of which was located in aviation village.

Am sorry if you felt insulted...

Jonathan earns 14million plus as salary... but I didn't ask you for his salary...I clearly mentioned allowances and estacodes...That's where the money is bro...Eg senator earns about 600,000 as salary but have allowance running over hundreds of million...Do you know how much the president is paid for seating allowance? Travelling allowance? Security vote etc...Politicians make money through allowances not salary... Even Fayose challenged Buhari to this fact when buhari wanted to play the politics of 50% salary cut...

I am well aware of Jonathan's home in otuoke...Its not an estate bro...Quit exaggerating just to give him a bad name...

I am yet to see the original owners of that farm stead complain that it was forcefully taken or illegally acquired...BTW I wonder why ALL of you saw nothing wrong in Tinubu forcing out an educational institution so as to site his personal TV station in same land but will crucify Jonathan for his farm...

In all you have been writing...NOTHING have you shown to show Jonathan looted or stole or whatever... I need someone to substantiate his corruption tag with facts...

BTW he earns his pay as ex civil servant... ex deputy governor...ex governor...ex VP...and now again ex president.... Check out the allowances attached to those offices....thanks

citizenY:


Me too... He could not keep the goat and the yam apart. Mama piss join them for kitchen, converted them to better dish , he chop, slept off and did not know that money was being stolen.

Hmmm, well you no be thief but them see some stolen things for your cupboard, them go label you thief! That's the case of GEJ....

Whynotthetruth:


APC began campaign of character assassination,hatred, blackmail, mudslinging and insults before elections...even as far back as 2013/2014...PDP was on defensive during election...Don't twist history plzzz

cite examples or shut up! Which character did APC assasinate Just mention 1 let me help u open can of PDP worms before elections..hw de played politics of biTterness and desperation while in power...

LouisVanGaal:
cite examples or shut up! Which character did APC assasinate Just mention 1 let me help u open can of PDP worms before elections..hw de played politics of biTterness and desperation while in power...

Thanks...I rather shut up as you advised to avoid more insults...You can go ahead with your adverts...thankz

Whynotthetruth, I always shake my head when I see you opening threads to defend politicians.

I am an independent thinker, despite that I support Buhari.


This people are stealing your future and that of your unborn children. This people are taking what belongs to the nation as their personal properties. They become demi gods so that your parents, yourself and children will be bounded in poverty.
How much is your father salary? Is he not doing a hard work? How much does he earn in a month? How much does GEJ and the rest politicians both in APC and pdp (my brother /tribe) who doesn't do hard work but to sit in office and fly in private jet are earning?

They steal and steal everything and all you do is to open countless threads to defend them.

Look at the country and ask yourself what is working. If your father develop stroke, he will die (God forbid) because the hospitals around does not have facilities to handle such a case, while GEJ and politicians you keep on defending will fly out in an air ambulance to foreign countries for treatment.


If your mother travel from North to south in a public or private bus she will develop body pain because of bad road network. But you can defend a thief who fly around like a bird in a chartered jet with our common wealth.

Your granny pension is stolen, he/she is left to die like a rat beaten by rain.

Your parents were paid peanuts for working hard, while the oga you defend steals largese of their money.
Your entitlements and benefits were stolen and all you have to do is bark like a dog whose bone was stolen just because a particular person is from your region, have same party with you, same religion, same state.



Think man, think!



I copied this from Folykaze, but edit some parts.

Op if u wana knw how u go need chek guinness book of records if him name never enter am sure dem go still dey plan to put am by tommorw.
Cos dats d only person that does not see stealing as corruption..

Whynotthetruth:


Thanks...I rather shut up as you advised to avoid more insults...You can go ahead with your adverts...thankz

Cite examples dude and dont look/go 4a cheap blackmail...you knw dat u dont av a case...take up the gaunlet and prove me wrong!!!!

IdisuleOurOwn:
Whynottheuth, [s]I always shake my head when I see you opening threads to defend politicians.
I am an independent thinker, despite that I support Buhar
This people are stealing your future and that of your unborn children. This people are taking what belongs to the nation as their personal properties. They become demi gods so that your parents, yourself and children will be bounded in poverty.
How much is your father salary? Is he not doing a hard work? How much does he earn in a month? How much does GEJ and the rest politicians both in APC and pdp (my brother /tribe) who doesn't do hard work but to sit in office and fly in private jet are earning?

They steal and steal everything and all you do is to open countless threads to defend them.

Look at the country and ask yourself what is working. If your father develop stroke, he will die (God forbid) because the hospitals around does not have facilities to handle such a case, while GEJ and politicians you keep on defending will fly out in an air ambulance to foreign countries for treatment.
If your mother travel from North to south in a public or private bus she will develop body pain because of bad road network. But you can defend a thief who fly around like a bird in a chartered jet with our common wealth.

Your granny pension is stolen, he/she is left to die like a rat beaten by rain.

Your parents were paid peanuts for working hard, while the oga you defend steals largese of their money.
Your entitlements and benefits were stolen and all you have to do is bark like a dog whose bone was stolen just because a particular person is from your region, have same party with you, same religion, same state
Think man, think!
I copied this from Folykaze, but edit some parts[/s].

Sorry if this pains u...

1)I don't and can't fall to cheap emotional blackmail...

2)Direct your sermon if you are so interested to APC agents here...APC is the only party that has paid agents online...APC introduced politics of hatred and blackmail... as well as recruiting online touts...they need your sermon more...because they sold their future and conscience for peanuts...

3)Advice yourself too...because I see you and your clique insulting, mudslinging, blackmailing and lying against leaders who aren't from your region and religion...

4)Be sure to see more threads from me as the spirit directs me...

5)Take the advice to your father, who you said plays local politics in kogi state...because kogi state needs all the sermon they can get now...thanks

Whynotthetruth:
Media prosecution & conviction of individuals seems to be a veritable weapon for ruling political parties now.

Did Jonathan make any mistake during his term? Of course he's human and must make mistakes.

President Buhari should note that media prosecution, blackmail & conviction which he's embarked on with APC leaders may some day boomerang. Let justice and equity be our watchword.

Thanks and God bless us all...

(1) Is GEJ a devil? certainly not
(2) Is mistake a defence for the irregularities of his administration? Irrelevant question. the objective of society is not to determine mistakes or crimes but to, amongst others, ensure law and order by effectively preventing or correcting mistakes and crimes.
(3) Is there anything illegal in anti-mistakes (corruption) war of PMB govt? No. if any, the Court of law will render justice to the aggrieved.
(4) What is the purpose of Criminal justice? deterrence.
(5) Is there any jurisdiction in which public officials are merely prevented institutionally from stealing without penalty in the event of stealing? None.
(6) what is rule of law? equality before the law and observance of human rights.
(7) How did GEJites use Media against GMB? I will like to see your link to any view or concern you raised if the allegations sponsored against GMB bothered you. Or was he not entitled to fair trial during campaign? Who determines where when and how to be fair besides the law?

Conclusion:- GEJ will not go to trial because of the office he held but for as long as his footsoldiers are running away from justice, the public awareness of their deed will not cease. I will therefore urge that you should be interested in how to recover loots and the ends to which the lots should be spent. If you have actionable information on APC members pls feel free to bring it forward.

Whynotthetruth:
Media prosecution & conviction of individuals seems to be a veritable weapon for ruling political parties now. Media has usurped the duties of law court hence politicians are making good use of it to blackmail perceived "enemies" tainting or even tarnishing their image. This to me, is laying an unfortunate foundation for another monster in the system.

In fight against corruption; It should be noted here, that I am an apostle of Jonathan's proactive measure as shown in his yam & goat analogy as against Buhari's reactive measure of jail policy. Has armed robbery ended with all the jail terms meted to them? Why would treasury looting be any different? I am a candidate of Jonathan's school of thought that believes in building strong institutions as against Buhari's or APC knack for strong individuals. I believe just like Jonathan/PDP that Nigeria's challenge is more in the structure as against Buhari/APC's belief that it is in the faces. Those are my creed.

Since Buhari, APC & their chief consultant(Obasanjo); hasn't started any tangible thing but still in the euphoria of campaign more than five(5)months since being declared winner of presidential elections. Rather we are bamboozled daily with highly conflicting perceived corrupt looting of treasury or recanting of their campaign promises as well as insulting and blackmailing Jonathan & his aides as corrupt and chronic looters of the treasury.

We need to as individuals put on our thinking cap to actually decipher who & where the looters are...before we join in decimating the "innocents" while the real thieves mock us. This does not mean or position Jonathan & his aides as saints in anyway at all.

SOME AVENUES OF LOOTING THE TREASURY in Nigeria;

1)AGRICULTURE;

Since I came to know Nigeria, I have always heard of fertilizer scam and looting in agricultural sector especially before farming season. Many politicians and businessmen became stinkingly rich thanks to this avenue. But under Jonathan presidency, this was sorted out using a technology backed initiative which is today being adopted world over. So is the man who solved this age-long challenge the looter or those who allowed it to subsist during their term?

2)GHOST WORKERS IN CIVIL SERVICE;

This is a cankerworm that is bedevilling our system in different strata. The software named IPPIS was introduced to solve this problem. Ever wondered why this software though known and publicized under former administrations was not allowed to see the light of day? It was only implemented under Jonathan. So who are the thieves here? Because several billions were reported to have been saved by mere allowing this policy to be implemented having weeded out thousands of ghost workers. Between those who paid lip service to this scam and the man who removed it; who is the thief or corrupt official?

3)ENERGY PRIVATISATION;

It was reported that a particular administration wasted over $16billion in that sector and only achieved more darkness for the country. Former power minister; Prof Nebo told us a lot about what was achieved in this sector after the celebrated privatisation including developing skilled labour pool for this already privatised sector; though sadly he regretted that they lost the war against pipeline vandals who undermined their efforts. How much was expended by that administration to achieve those compared to what obtained in the past who spent more to achieve nothing but increased darkness?

4) PETROLEUM SUBSIDY;

Buhari termed subsidy an alien language before coming to power. I wonder why he is very reluctant to remove same today? Is it because of national or sectional interest?
By 2012, Jonathan sort to deregularize oil sector...break up and open up NNPC and remove subsidy...ACN, & CPC now APC called, ganged up with labour against him and brought him to stop it...Same people(APC), turned back later and accused him of stealing with his friends through subsidy and called him corrupt...Why stop him from removing subsidy if you knew he & his friends are thieves? When these oil magnates almost crippled the system at the twilight of Jonathan administration, some Nigerians chose to fight Jonathan instead of the oil cabal; just like some fought him instead of boko haram at the height of insurgency in 2014. It's unfortunate that PIB wasn't finally passed into law under him; but sincere oil sector operators would be happy to share the dividends of his local content policy in that sector. Again, who are the real thieves here; Jonathan or the two-timers?

5)SINGLE TREASURY ACCOUNT;

In order to centralize government's revenue thereby reducing shortchanging of the system and blocking leakages, Jonathan implemented TSA. Does a man who wants to loot the system approve such measure which defies the porous status quo? Why didn't former leaders adopt same measure? Who's the real thief between the man who signed & supported FOI to become law and those who went to court to stop its implementation in their states?

Did Jonathan make any mistake during his term? Of course he's human and must make mistakes. Is he the devil being painted of him today? Not near it at all...It is strange that same people who would not be cut dead granting Jonathan/PDP benefit of doubt in situations seek to be granted same. Only if law of karma understood such language.

President Buhari should note that media prosecution, blackmail & conviction which he's embarked on with APC leaders may some day boomerang. Let justice and equity be our watchword.

Thanks and God bless us all...

Granted GEJ introduced TSA but he did not have the political will to enforce this directive.As at May 28,2015 ministries and MDAs
were still having multiple accounts with commercial banks but it took the coming of PMB,who without changing a single thing in the
order,to implement and enforce the directive.

STRONG MEN BUILD STRONG INSTITUTIONS .

dat9jaguy:





Granted GEJ introduced TSA but he did not have the political will to enforce this directive.As at May 28,2015 ministries and MDAs
were still having multiple accounts with commercial banks but it took the coming of PMB,who without changing a single thing in the
order,to implement and enforce the directive.

STRONG MEN BUILD STRONG INSTITUTIONS .

I wonder where you got your views from...Greater percentage if not all MDAs are compliant already before Jonathan exited...thanks

Whynotthetruth:


I wonder where you got your views from...Greater percentage if not all MDAs are compliant already before Jonathan exited...thanks

www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/08/treasury-single-account-giving-life-to-jonathans-dead-policy-directives/

Enjoy.

TRUTHTOPOWER:


(1) Is GEJ a devil? certainly not
(2) Is mistake a defence for the irregularities of his administration? Irrelevant question. the objective of society is not to determine mistakes or crimes but to, amongst others, ensure law and order by effectively preventing or correcting mistakes and crimes.
(3) Is there anything illegal in anti-mistakes (corruption) war of PMB govt? No. if any, the Court of law will render justice to the aggrieved.
(4) What is the purpose of Criminal justice? deterrence.
(5) Is there any jurisdiction in which public officials are merely prevented institutionally from stealing without penalty in the event of stealing? None.
(6) what is rule of law? equality before the law and observance of human rights.
(7) How did GEJites use Media against GMB? I will like to see your link to any view or concern you raised if the allegations sponsored against GMB bothered you. Or was he not entitled to fair trial during campaign? Who determines where when and how to be fair besides the law?

Conclusion:- GEJ will not go to trial because of the office he held but for as long as his footsoldiers are running away from justice, the public awareness of their deed will not cease. I will therefore urge that you should be interested in how to recover loots and the ends to which the lots should be spent. If you have actionable information on APC members pls feel free to bring it forward.

Sorry if I don't respond to all your stories...

1)Jonathan can't be declared guilty before any investigation...as APC and buhari are doing now...

2)Buhari should do his investigation without blackmailing people... and allow courts to finish up...

3)Strong institutions has nothing to do with strong individuals... Just like we saw in the few ones Jonathan successfully implemented or built...

4)Jail isn't a panacea to any crime...Yam & goat theory of Jonathan will help u understand this more...

5)APC already gagged and poisoned the media long before Jonathan/PDP woke up to reality... They were only on the defensive...hence they APC introduced politics of hatred, bile and insults against leaders as well as online paid touts and agents...who malign APC/Tinubu opponents and blackmail them daily...facts are sacred bro....don't distort it...

dat9jaguy:




www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/08/treasury-single-account-giving-life-to-jonathans-dead-policy-directives/

Enjoy.

Manage this tonight...network isn't too good here for any search...I will help you with number of MDAs that's complied with the directive even before buhari came with his body language propaganda and lies....Did you see where they accredited even IPPIS to buhari in your link...APC is sick really...destroying people with wicked lies and confusion...

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/fg-saves-n500bn-through-implementation-of-single-treasury-account/

dat9jaguy:




www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/08/treasury-single-account-giving-life-to-jonathans-dead-policy-directives/

Enjoy.

Manage this tonight...network isn't too good here for any search...I will help you with number of MDAs that's complied with the directive even before buhari came with his body language propaganda and lies....Did you see where they accredited even IPPIS to buhari in your link...APC is sick really...destroying people with wicked lies and confusion...

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/fg-saves-n500bn-through-implementation-of-single-treasury-account/

BTW Strong institutions has NOTHING to do with strong men... thanks

https://www.nairaland.com/2515237/jonathan-already-ordered-all-mdas/2

Whynotthetruth:


Sorry if this pains u...

1)I don't and can't fall to cheap emotional blackmail...

2)Direct your sermon if you are so interested to APC agents here...APC is the only party that has paid agents online...APC introduced politics of hatred and blackmail... as well as recruiting online touts...they need your sermon more...because they sold their future and conscience for peanuts...

3)Advice yourself too...because I see you and your clique insulting, mudslinging, blackmailing and lying against leaders who aren't from your region and religion...

4)Be sure to see more threads from me as the spirit directs me...

5)Take the advice to your father, who you said plays local politics in kogi state...because kogi state needs all the sermon they can get now...thanks

Sorry, I couldn't respond to all your stories.



No 5.
The man was never a politician but a civil servant (retired now).
He has never hold any elected office. He was only in acting capacity (caretaker) when LG council boss tenure came to an end. Pending when election will be conducted. Only if you know how LG works.



Never the less than, always mentioned me whenever you open a wailing thread.

Because of you I will become an APC member.

Nairaland is really a huge comedy relieve with threads like yours.

IdisuleOurOwn:


Sorry, I couldn't respond to all your stories.



No 5.
The man was never a politician but a civil servant (retired now).
He has never hold any elected office. He was only in acting capacity (caretaker) when LG council boss tenure came to an end. Pending when election will be conducted. Only if you know how LG works.



Never the less than, always mentioned me whenever you open a wailing thread.

Because of you I will become an APC member.

Nairaland is really a huge comedy relieve with threads like yours.

Wow...I will mention so far I remember...

keep deceiving yourself...maybe you have been pro-Jonathan and PDP before now...hypocrites

Rubbish!!!The otueke drunk is not only a senseless kleptomaniac, he is also an irredeemable common criminal with the sense of flipping reetard some inches past acute imbe..cilic

Whynotthetruth:


Am sorry if you felt insulted...

Jonathan earns 14million plus as salary... but I didn't ask you for his salary...I clearly mentioned allowances and estacodes...That's where the money is bro...Eg senator earns about 600,000 as salary but have allowance running over hundreds of million...Do you know how much the president is paid for seating allowance? Travelling allowance? Security vote etc...Politicians make money through allowances not salary... Even Fayose challenged Buhari to this fact when buhari wanted to play the politics of 50% salary cut...

I am well aware of Jonathan's home in otuoke...Its not an estate bro...Quit exaggerating just to give him a bad name...

I am yet to see the original owners of that farm stead complain that it was forcefully taken or illegally acquired...BTW I wonder why ALL of you saw nothing wrong in Tinubu forcing out an educational institution so as to site his personal TV station in same land but will crucify Jonathan for his farm...

In all you have been writing...NOTHING have you shown to show Jonathan looted or stole or whatever... I need someone to substantiate his corruption tag with facts...

BTW he earns his pay as ex civil servant... ex deputy governor...ex governor...ex VP...and now again ex president.... Check out the allowances attached to those offices....thanks

Mr. howcomesIlovelies, I indeed urge you to watch this video with an open mind, I hope it is not to much for you. While PDP campaigned on propaganda, APC specifically made a video about Jonathan, all factual,there is nothing that you can deny in this video as they have provided proof and a detailed analysis. It's around 30 mins, be patient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqqFowdsHl8

anulaxad:



Mr. howcomesIlovelies, I indeed urge you to watch this video with an open mind, I hope it is not to much for you. While PDP campaigned on propaganda, APC specifically made a video about Jonathan, all factual,there is nothing that you can deny in this video as they have provided proof and a detailed analysis. It's around 30 mins, be patient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqqFowdsHl8

@bolded...I hope you really hate insults sincerely...

I stopped watching immediately I saw it discussing persons and not issues...and the intro about Jonathan reducing governance to bigotry is a BIG lie because;

1)APC is a political party founded on bigotry... Religious bigotry for the North and Ethnic bigotry for SW...why project their image on others?...

2)APC based on its foundation introduced FULL blown bigotry into the system...And as with all thieves and mischievous persons keep pointing hands on others...

3)You aren't exempted from this bigotry too...because I saw your thread on that topic...You listed ONLY SE/SS ethnic warlords here and hypocritically left behind SW ethnic champions...Smh...

4)Did PDP campaign on propaganda...How come APC controlled 90% of ALL media groups?...Punch, Premiumtimes, Leadership, Saharareporters, Dailytrust, Dailypost, Tvc, Osundefender, TheNation etc Which party had ONLINe paid touts who spew lies daily here and in other online outfit?...Which party had a propaganda room sited in Lagos otherwise called situation room?...

5)Discussing FFK dad and then FFK...can these men be compared to Tinubu in corruption and dirt accumulation...

6)Greater percentage of Jonathan's cabinet were from the north...Most of his achievements are in the north...

7)Anyway, I need to go back to topic of this thread...I have derailed so much...Counter the facts in the topic as against what obtained in the past...Maybe you need to also take a look at our TI rating before & after Jonathan...thanks

Whynotthetruth:


@bolded...I hope you really hate insults sincerely...

I stopped watching immediately I saw it discussing persons and not issues...and the intro about Jonathan reducing governance to bigotry is a BIG lie because;

1)APC is a political party founded on bigotry... Religious bigotry for the North and Ethnic bigotry for SW...why project their image on others?...

2)APC based on its foundation introduced FULL blown bigotry into the system...And as with all thieves and mischievous persons keep pointing hands on others...

3)You aren't exempted from this bigotry too...because I saw your thread on that topic...You listed ONLY SE/SS ethnic warlords here and hypocritically left behind SW ethnic champions...Smh...

4)Did PDP campaign on propaganda...How come APC controlled 90% of ALL media groups?...Punch, Premiumtimes, Leadership, Saharareporters, Dailytrust, Dailypost, Tvc, Osundefender, TheNation etc Which party had ONLINe paid touts who spew lies daily here and in other online outfit?...Which party had a propaganda room sited in Lagos otherwise called situation room?...

5)Discussing FFK dad and then FFK...can these men be compared to Tinubu in corruption and dirt accumulation...

6)Greater percentage of Jonathan's cabinet were from the north...Most of his achievements are in the north...

7)Anyway, I need to go back to topic of this thread...I have derailed so much...Counter the facts in the topic as against what obtained in the past...Maybe you need to also take a look at our TI rating before & after Jonathan...thanks

Did you see the part about his farms in Abuja?

anulaxad:


Did you see the part about his farms in Abuja?

1)I expected you to counter my points...

2)How is anybody owning a farm now a crime?

3)Why not seek out information about allowances accruing to a former deputy governor, a former governor, a former vice president and then a president and compare it with the living standard cum investments of Jonathan...If he's not worth the investment then we can start talking of corruption and embezzlement...

Am waiting

Extremely corrupt!

MIM77:
Extremely corrupt!

What parameter did you use to arrive at this conclusion

MIM77:
Extremely corrupt!

What parameter did you use to arrive at this conclusion

Whynotthetruth:


1)I expected you to counter my points...

2)How is anybody owning a farm now a crime?

3)Why not seek out information about allowances accruing to a former deputy governor, a former governor, a former vice president and then a president and compare it with the living standard cum investments of Jonathan...If he's not worth the investment then we can start talking of corruption and embezzlement...

Am waiting

I'm in a good mood so I will not embarass you, find me his allowances from deputy governor to President. I can promise you it cannot even reach up to a million pounds(310 million Naira). Yet he is building an estate in his hometown, have you forget that he built he's mother a mansion, he father another mansion (again remeber this was during his presidency not governor years) and they are all located in his estate.

Know don't give that nonsense that it is not an estate, he owns a monopoly of homes, some of which belongs to his family members and the rest for himself.

One mansion in that estate could not cost any less that 4 million pounds infact since it is Otueke it will probably cost more due to lack of available infrastructure.


So explain to me how he has made enough money for a farm that is worth in its billions of Naira and the various manisons in his estate that in totally honesty should cost more than £ 4 million pounds each, on allowances that dont even reach the total amount of one Mansion in that estate.

Oh, I do remember that 1 billion naira(4 million pounds back then) food budget allowance for his family alone in Aso Rock Villa, can you explain to me what 1 billion naira is needed for? At this point I believe you need to give in to the fact that you have lost this arguement and you should denouce Gej.

This our money for crying out loud, 1

Whynotthetruth:


1)I expected you to counter my points...

2)How is anybody owning a farm now a crime?

3)Why not seek out information about allowances accruing to a former deputy governor, a former governor, a former vice president and then a president and compare it with the living standard cum investments of Jonathan...If he's not worth the investment then we can start talking of corruption and embezzlement...

Am waiting

I'm in a good mood so I will not embarrass you, find me his allowances from deputy governor to President. I can promise you it cannot even reach up to a million pounds(310 million Naira). Yet he is building an estate in his home town, have you forget that he built he's mother a mansion, he father another mansion (again remember this was during his presidency not governor years) and they are all located in his estate.

Now don't give that nonsense that it is not an estate, he owns a monopoly of homes, some of which belongs to his family members and the rest for himself.

One mansion in that estate could not cost any less than 4 million pounds in fact since it is Otueke it will probably cost more due to the lack of available infrastructure.


So explain to me how he has made enough money for a farm that is worth in its billions of Naira and the various mansions in his estate that in totally honesty should cost more than £ 4 million pounds each, on allowances that don't even reach the total amount of one Mansion in that estate.

Oh, I do remember that 1 billion naira(4 million pounds back then) food budget allowance for his family alone in Aso Rock Villa, can you explain to me what 1 billion naira is needed for? At this point I believe you need to give in to the fact that you have lost this argument and you should denounce Gej.

This our money for crying out loud, Imagine what 1 billion Naira can do for your village alone. Think before you come here to argue recklessly.

anulaxad:



I'm in a good mood so I will not embarrass you, find me his allowances from deputy governor to President. I can promise you it cannot even reach up to a million pounds(310 million Naira). Yet he is building an estate in his home town, have you forget that he built he's mother a mansion, he father another mansion (again remember this was during his presidency not governor years) and they are all located in his estate.

Now don't give that nonsense that it is not an estate, he owns a monopoly of homes, some of which belongs to his family members and the rest for himself.

One mansion in that estate could not cost any less than 4 million pounds in fact since it is Otueke it will probably cost more due to the lack of available infrastructure.


So explain to me how he has made enough money for a farm that is worth in its billions of Naira and the various mansions in his estate that in totally honesty should cost more than £ 4 million pounds each, on allowances that don't even reach the total amount of one Mansion in that estate.

Oh, I do remember that 1 billion naira(4 million pounds back then) food budget allowance for his family alone in Aso Rock Villa, can you explain to me what 1 billion naira is needed for? At this point I believe you need to give in to the fact that you have lost this argument and you should denounce Gej.

This our money for crying out loud, Imagine what 1 billion Naira can do for your village alone. Think before you come here to argue recklessly.

smh...naija don suffer...Imagine intellectual prowess of the guy discussing with me...Plz I dont do beer parlour gists...Since you have no facts to show except running your mouth on innanities...I will rather ignore you...BTW 1billion feeding is for presidency not president...Go and learn the difference... thanks

anulaxad:



I'm in a good mood so I will not embarrass you, find me his allowances from deputy governor to President. I can promise you it cannot even reach up to a million pounds(310 million Naira). Yet he is building an estate in his home town, have you forget that he built he's mother a mansion, he father another mansion (again remember this was during his presidency not governor years) and they are all located in his estate.

Now don't give that nonsense that it is not an estate, he owns a monopoly of homes, some of which belongs to his family members and the rest for himself.

One mansion in that estate could not cost any less than 4 million pounds in fact since it is Otueke it will probably cost more due to the lack of available infrastructure.


So explain to me how he has made enough money for a farm that is worth in its billions of Naira and the various mansions in his estate that in totally honesty should cost more than £ 4 million pounds each, on allowances that don't even reach the total amount of one Mansion in that estate.

Oh, I do remember that 1 billion naira(4 million pounds back then) food budget allowance for his family alone in Aso Rock Villa, can you explain to me what 1 billion naira is needed for? At this point I believe you need to give in to the fact that you have lost this argument and you should denounce Gej.

This our money for crying out loud, Imagine what 1 billion Naira can do for your village alone. Think before you come here to argue recklessly.

If only a madman knows that he's mad...

Your IQ quotient is too low ...thanks

Whynotthetruth:


If only a madman knows that he's mad...

Your IQ quotient is too low ...thanks

If only an ignoramus,knew he was ignorant.

So I am mad for telling you the truth.

You are so arrogantly naive to the extent that even if the truth slapped you across your face you will still defend your concocting lies.
Anywhere that I see you defending Jonathan on Nairaland I will refer you back to your thread and my post as you refuse to answer the questions that I have put in front of you. What a low-life.