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5minsmadness:
Its amazing how you atheists lap up stories from your white masters without questioning them. On one hand you laugh at the black man for not questioning the faith the white folk brought to Africa's shores, calling it made up, illogical and silly. On the other hand you still follow this same white man without question, rejoicing in the stupidity of his shallow thinking and biased reasoning.



Are you saying in the whole army of the isrealites there wasn't a single slinger? If the slingshot was so deadly as your white shallow atheist says, why didn't one of the so called skilled stingers simply approach Goliath and put an end to the fight? Why let an inexperienced little Shepherd boy who had little to no known experience using said sling for warfare in the first place?

Unless you are saying there were no slingers in the isrealites army(which cancels Ted's reasoning) then you have to admit that Goliath was so formidable even the slingers were afraid of him(thus also cancelling Ted's illogical reasoning).



You don't chose your opponents weapon in a war. So if a slinger came forth from the isrealites army would Goliath had turned tail and run cos he wasn't carrying a slingshot as well? Also if Goliath wanted "hand-to-hand" combat, he wouldn't have come with his shield and spear.
And don't dare mention his shield and spear being too heavy for him; if it was, why would he carry it to battle in the first place. Do you think he became the Philistine champion by measuring height and weight? No! He did it by becoming one of the most deadly, ferocious and unconquerable foes the enemy could face. So lying that Goliath was simply a clumsy oaf with acromegaly is a lie straight from the pit if he'll and illogical to boot.

I know you will be in a hurry to respond. Be patient. I'll be right back. Perhaps this will be a good time to think of sine logical excuses to cover your asses in believing this nonsense cooked up by an atheist nobody.

5minsmadness:
Its amazing how you atheists lap up stories from your white masters without questioning them. On one hand you laugh at the black man for not questioning the faith the white folk brought to Africa's shores, calling it made up, illogical and silly. On the other hand you still follow this same white man without question, rejoicing in the stupidity of his shallow thinking and biased reasoning.



Are you saying in the whole army of the isrealites there wasn't a single slinger? If the slingshot was so deadly as your white shallow atheist says, why didn't one of the so called skilled stingers simply approach Goliath and put an end to the fight? Why let an inexperienced little Shepherd boy who had little to no known experience using said sling for warfare in the first place?

Unless you are saying there were no slingers in the isrealites army(which cancels Ted's reasoning) then you have to admit that Goliath was so formidable even the slingers were afraid of him(thus also cancelling Ted's illogical reasoning).



You don't chose your opponents weapon in a war. So if a slinger came forth from the isrealites army would Goliath had turned tail and run cos he wasn't carrying a slingshot as well? Also if Goliath wanted "hand-to-hand" combat, he wouldn't have come with his shield and spear.
And don't dare mention his shield and spear being too heavy for him; if it was, why would he carry it to battle in the first place. Do you think he became the Philistine champion by measuring height and weight? No! He did it by becoming one of the most deadly, ferocious and unconquerable foes the enemy could face. So lying that Goliath was simply a clumsy oaf with acromegaly is a lie straight from the pit if he'll and illogical to boot.

I know you will be in a hurry to respond. Be patient. I'll be right back. Perhaps this will be a good time to think of sine logical excuses to cover your asses in believing this nonsense cooked up by an atheist nobody.

johnydon22:
I like this

Durinsday:
People missed asking Ted how a double-visioned, slow-moving, led-by-the-hand giant came to represent a tribe of warriors with their kingdom and lives at stake! How did that slowpoke Goliath even make it through war school and actual wars, to represent philistine? Nice try Ted. David may have been a great slinger and that showed that God uses the seemingly small to baffle the profound. God's hand is there

johnydon22:
I like this

Osisie:
Ok, even Yemi Alade's Johny admits!

Good reasoning.

llaykorn:
First time in history!

Thoniameek:
I don't buy it, if you wanted to challenge religious Nigerians to think outside the box, why would you still use the same instrument that made their way of thinking primitive? And a book you certainly don't believe an ounce of anything written in, a book you call a lie, fairytale, and what have you

This your question answers itself The bible does have a lot of truth and wisdom in them but i don't take it more seriously than I would "Rich dad, poor dad".

What happened to all those your sophisticated books on logic, human reasoning and philosophy? They do a great deal in helping you think out of the box

Well, most theist are too occupied with reading their "primitive" books. If they did read such books, we wouldn't be having this discussion

Religion might be one of many problems of Nigerians, it's certainly not on the top of the list.

That's arguable

Now, help us and start with work place mistreatment, especially from foreigners, then we can continue with a host of others

Starting with religious divisions, christians against muslims/christ embassy against deeper life, is not a bad start

To study and pray before exams are both important...... Just as praying alone does not guarantee success in exams, so does studying alone; at least not with the educational system of Nigeria (that's another problem you could helps us with)

Help in what way?

Zoharariel:
The bible is nothing more than a compilation of fables & lies by some overzealous nonentities under the influence of some [size=18pt]vatican marijuana[/size].

John Allegro, in his book “The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross: A Study of the Nature and Origins of Christianity within the Fertility Cults of the Ancient Near East”, postulated through the etymology of words and relates how the development of language indicated that the roots of the religions emanating from the Middle East were based on fertility cults, and shamanic practices such as Entheogens (or hallucinogenic) plants as a source of spiritual communion with the universal consciousness, or the mind of God..

hahn:
As always, you christians are unable to differentiate between a discussion and an argument as you always subscribe to the latter.

5minsmadness:
Its amazing how you atheists lap up stories from your white masters without questioning them. On one hand you laugh at the black man for not questioning the faith the white folk brought to Africa's shores, calling it made up, illogical and silly. On the other hand you still follow this same white man without question, rejoicing in the stupidity of his shallow thinking and biased reasoning.
Let's start with the quote below.



Are you saying in the whole army of the isrealites there wasn't a single slinger? If the slingshot was so deadly as your white shallow atheist says, why didn't one of the so called skilled slingers simply approach Goliath and put an end to the fight? Why let an inexperienced little Shepherd boy who had little to no known experience using said sling for warfare in the first place?

Unless you are saying there were no slingers in the isrealites army(which cancels Ted's reasoning) then you have to admit that Goliath was so formidable even the slingers were afraid of him(thus also cancelling Ted's illogical reasoning).



You don't chose your opponents weapon in a war. So if a slinger came forth from the isrealites army would Goliath had turned tail and run cos he wasn't carrying a slingshot as well? Also if Goliath wanted "hand-to-hand" combat, he wouldn't have come with his shield and spear.
And don't dare mention his shield and spear being too heavy for him; if it was, why would he carry it to battle in the first place. Do you think he became the Philistine champion by measuring height and weight? No! He did it by becoming one of the most deadly, ferocious and unconquerable foes the enemy could face. So lying that Goliath was simply a clumsy oaf with acromegaly is a lie straight from the pit of he'll and illogical to boot.

I know you will be in a hurry to respond. Be patient. I'll be right back. Perhaps this will be a good time to think of some logical excuses to cover your asses in believing this nonsense cooked up by an atheist nobody.

Am back.



The above quote is further atheistic bullsh1t propounded in a desperate attempt to explain away David's good fortune. In arguments atheists say the bible is inaccurate. In other arguments they swear on the Bible's accuracy to prove a point.

"Am I dog that you would come against me with sticks" is an inconsequential phrase. As long as those sticks were on one of David's hands it wouldn't have mattered. A battle was about to take place. Also from your "intelligent but stupid" atheist Ted he already said David approached him from a distance. So it was most likely that David hadn't come close enough for Goliath or ANYBODY for that matter to see whether he was holding a stick or "sticks" in his hand.

Once again in an attempt to paint Goliath as Stvpid the op contradicts himself. Are you saying this was the first battle Goliath was fighting? Are you saying Goliath couldn't weird his own armour or weapons? How then did he become d people's champion? By measuring height?

Goliath was the people's champion! He was a celebrity! Of course he had cup bearers ans shield and spear carriers! He had an entourage just as any important person in those days would have. And once again it wouldn't have mattered if he was going into battle. It would be foolish of the Philistines to choose a champion that needed to be aided simply to get unto the battlefield.

Therefore what the op is trying to explain is total rubbish!

The god you don't believe in save you that my battery has run down. I for finish una today.

KingEbukasBlog:
Since when did you start having discussions with Christians ?An escape tactics or what ?

You say the bible is a myth , so we should start discussing "fairytales " like kids ?


Goliath is not 6 foot 9- that's my own contribution . It's just common sense .

hahn:
@bolded, that's what every other religion says. You're destined to burn in the hell fire of other religious ideologies

hahn:
@ bolded,

1 Samuel 17 verse: 41 Meanwhile, the Philistine, with his shield bearer in front of him, kept coming closer to David.

Religious concepts have always been subject to editing and improvement. You might be forced to come to terms with the fact that your victory can only come as a result of your level of preparedness and not "god".

KingEbukasBlog:
Since when did you start having discussions with Christians ?An escape tactics or what ?

johnydon22:
Even llaykorn knows am not in any way bigoted.
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5minsmadness:
*standing ovation*

I love this. This is exactly the kind of discussion necessary to enable us all understand each other better.

Its amazing how you atheists lap up stories from your white masters without questioning them. On one hand you laugh at the black man for not questioning the faith the white folk brought to Africa's shores, calling it made up, illogical and silly. On the other hand you still follow this same white man without question, rejoicing in the stupidity of his shallow thinking and biased reasoning.
Let's start with the quote below.

[b]Are you seriously going to bring up this "white folk" talk here when you are trying to defend the ideologies the same white folks taught you? What you are inferring here is quite ironic.

You have to understand this is not entirely about abolishing "white beliefs" but rather it's aimed at putting ALL ideologies be it cultural, religious, political etc, foreign or domestic, which we have been forced to swallow, under proper scrutiny thus separating the shaft from the seed. The same white people responsible for slavery also produced William Wilberforce who also contributed in ending it. The same white folks that forced us to accept their beliefs are the same people fighting against lots of their dogmas today. In America, a certain period in time, it was once against the law for women to vote but today women vote freely just as well as other issues such as segregation, homosexuality, death penalties, public lynchings, nudity etc which were once considered a taboo but today are norms and even recognized by the law.

Most of our knowledge, the type of governance we practice, our education, electricity, fashion etc are adopted from them but even they criticize their beliefs. We've always learnt from them and they are indeed decades ahead of us so I do believe that they are worthy of emulation.[/b]

Are you saying in the whole army of the isrealites there wasn't a single slinger? If the slingshot was so deadly as your white shallow atheist says, why didn't one of the so called skilled slingers simply approach Goliath and put an end to the fight? Why let an inexperienced little Shepherd boy who had little to no known experience using said sling for warfare in the first place?

Unless you are saying there were no slingers in the isrealites army(which cancels Ted's reasoning) then you have to admit that Goliath was so formidable even the slingers were afraid of him(thus also cancelling Ted's illogical reasoning).

You don't chose your opponents weapon in a war. So if a slinger came forth from the isrealites army would Goliath had turned tail and run cos he wasn't carrying a slingshot as well? Also if Goliath wanted "hand-to-hand" combat, he wouldn't have come with his shield and spear.
And don't dare mention his shield and spear being too heavy for him; if it was, why would he carry it to battle in the first place. Do you think he became the Philistine champion by measuring height and weight? No! He did it by becoming one of the most deadly, ferocious and unconquerable foes the enemy could face. So lying that Goliath was simply a clumsy oaf with acromegaly is a lie straight from the pit of he'll and illogical to boot.

Israel came with an army and NO ONE could challenge Goliath for forty days till David showed up. If that isn't evidence that there was a lack of courage, skill or whatever was needed to defeat him, I wonder what was is? If you had questioned that detail when you read it in your bible we wouldn't be here.

Just as combat soldiers are different from snipers of today, slingers were in a category of their own. The fact that Goliath was a champion doesn't specifically mean he was also a champion with the sling.

I know you will be in a hurry to respond. Be patient. I'll be right back. Perhaps this will be a good time to think of some logical excuses to cover your asses in believing this nonsense cooked up by an atheist nobody.

Lol. Are you seriously referring to Ted and Malcolm as "nobodies"?

Am back.



The above quote is further atheistic bullsh1t propounded in a desperate attempt to explain away David's good fortune. In arguments atheists say the bible is inaccurate. In other arguments they swear on the Bible's accuracy to prove a point.

"Am I dog that you would come against me with sticks" is an inconsequential phrase.

But it wasn't inconsequential when you were thinking the story justifies your belief. Oh

As long as those sticks were on one of David's hands it wouldn't have mattered. A battle was about to take place. Also from your "intelligent but stupid" atheist Ted he already said David approached him from a distance. So it was most likely that David hadn't come close enough for Goliath or ANYBODY for that matter to see whether he was holding a stick or "sticks" in his hand.

Once again in an attempt to paint Goliath as Stvpid the op contradicts himself. Are you saying this was the first battle Goliath was fighting? Are you saying Goliath couldn't weird his own armour or weapons? How then did he become d people's champion? By measuring height?

Goliath was the people's champion! He was a celebrity! Of course he had cup bearers ans shield and spear carriers! He had an entourage just as any important person in those days would have. And once again it wouldn't have mattered if he was going into battle. It would be foolish of the Philistines to choose a champion that needed to be aided simply to get unto the battlefield.

Champions lose eventually. It happens

The Philistines made a mistake. It happens in war. They underestimated the Israelis and they got served by a Warri boy. (We no dey carry last)

Therefore what the op is trying to explain is total rubbish!

The god you don't believe in save you that my battery has run down. I for finish una today.

Why does it seem that you guys get all worked up and murderous whenever your belief is confronted or questioned? Oh, I get it, you're fighting for your space in heaven. I understand *big hugs*

hahn:
And what happened to the giant that faced Achilles? Would you say Achilles was an underdog in that fight?

theunusualmoon:
In that fight Achilles was not an underdog.I only sighted that example to show that it was a case of your best man against mine.So Goliath was not a slow poke.infact, I think that probably wasn't the first time he was representing his army.David can be said to be an underdog because he had no combat experience whatsoever.

hahn:
He might not have been enlisted in the army but he had experience killing bears and lions on his own. It's a simple case of underestimation. Even his brothers couldn't confront Goliath despite their years of military training.

At the end of the day, David wasn't a total weakling as depicted by theists. He was expericed and well prepared

onweson:
Your piece is interesting and articulated with the best of your prowess. However, the fact that you wittingly refused to link David's victory to name of the Lord, the God of Isreal, makes it disjointed and half-baked truth.[silas.ebenyi@firs.gov

hahn:
Bubu

every concept is subject to discussion. That's all.

When you believe in something and I ask you "why?" You're supposed to give me reasonable reasons for your belief and not assume I'm trying to lead you to "hell", which you're already heading for for belieing in Christ. You're headed for over 30,000 "hells" of every other religious beliefs. Does that even make sense?

What height was Goliath?

And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

TheDauraMallam:
Abeg go siddon somewhere.

You're going to hell in every other religious ideology.