₦airaland Forum

huangcheng:
Abeg shift for me make i sit down with you.

zendy:
[b]For how long will you Yorubas keep peddling this false story that Ironsi was the one who destroyed regionalism and introduced the unitary system of Government? Yes Ironsi promulgated the unification decree,however, that decree did not erode the essential components of regionalism. All 4 regions where still in existence when Ironsi was killed. The regions still controled their resources. Ironsi needed that decree to enable him rule as a military leader who is used to uniformity. It was Gowon who came in and abrogated the regions, created States and made them mere appendages of the Government at the centre. Let's not keep up this falsehood. To this day, the North has refused to let regionalism return because of their over dependence on the resources of others. Another reason why the North does not want regionalsm is because it will end the political stranglehold they have over Nigeria. I'm an Igbo man, I have gone past squabbling with the Hausa and Yoruba man over what is mine in Nigeria and what is not. Regionalism is no longer good enough. A full secession of all Igbos and Igboid groups under the banner of Biafra is the minimum acceptable demand. We cant keep lying to ourselves that we are one just because a "British terrorist" called Lugard came to west Africa to tell us so. We must all go and look for our individual countries and do away with this 'British created nightmare' called Nigeria which is representative of nobody. Enough is enough [/b]

kenny987:
Like some wise person said, Nigeria has a date with the truth and that day of reckoning is coming. Until then, people will keep hiding their heads in the sand and proclaiming lies as truth. Soon enough...very soon.

It is alarming that some here actually have a reason to support and encourage this despotic arrangement/system of governance rather than advocate for decentralization and resource control. A union must be organic with the consent of all parties involved and sacrosanct terms of engagement spelled out! Any other thing is a recipe for disaster and will only be managed for so long. Soon...we will have no option but to accept the truth for what it is and hopefully, it would not be too late.

johnserek:
Sigh did you read my post well if your we are not subjugated
-Why cant we have more local governments in Lagos
-Why cant Kwara and kogi west be reintegrated
-Why cant we set our educational
standards

AND why is it that this policies cannot be addressed
maybe subjugated is a strong word but we are being ripped off our God given wealth and Talent.

Look at Ghana a nation of 20 million worth 210BN IMAGINe if we yorubas have greater access to our wealth
50 million population with access to the sea
Kwara too faces River Niger

Just imagine a future where to build LAG-IB-JEBBA way does not require Abuja approval or funding
We can be in charge of income from our ports

The tourist that come to our territory pay Income to us

Thats how its done in all Heterogenous nation MAN
Thats how the BRITISH left it

Think about it
Forget about Igbos for now

ayokellany:
All I see is the lamentation of a Biafran. The YorubaS do not mind sharing the VAT from Lagos with a Kano that do not allow the sale of alcohol.

The Yorubas do not have to lead the lamentation of federalism when it was a Biafra Aguiyi Ironsi that truncated confedralism to install the rule of the minority Igbo on The majority Hausa n Yoruba.

What year would Biafrans like you stop lamenting like you are God who deposited crude oil in the NigerDelta ? What is happening to the 13% derivation ? Why is Lagos not fighting for VAT control or not entitled to 13% from the revenue accruing from it's port or the VAT it generates ?

Why must you die lamenting ? If 13% derivation is not enough why not push for the increase at the federal assemblies or do you have only retard like yourselves as reps ?

What year would you learn to build bridges to achieve your aim in Nigeria instead of lamentation n war ?

Finally why are you so forsaken that you can't make use of your brain but cry victim when you are clearly the aggressor ? Who truncated federalism in Nigeria ? A Biafran

Who orchestrated the first coup de etat in Nigeria ? A Biafran.


Simply because the majority are wiser and would not allow you to orchestrate a coup or destroy our newly found democracy / federalism you have been wailing for the past 100 days.

For Godsake what is the problem with you people ? Is it that your brain is damaged or what ? There's no perfect system anywhere in the world and you Biafra should learn to perfect the federalism we are enjoying or suffering as you deem fit n not wail simply because a Nigerian is ruling Nigeria.

Mcbussy:
Oga, abeg, at some point, with the way this country is going... We mind

johnserek:
1) Why are you lying in the face of hard facts? Do you enjoy slavery or what Scotland only pays 25% to UK which is reasonable not 76%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-33268851
England doesnt share its wealth why do you think they can build underground trains, canary wharf, London tower etc you think if majority of income was going to wales they will be where they are.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/11/scotland-fiscal-autonomy-north-sea-oil-tax-forecast-slashed-obr

2)Italy Germany are they not in the same economic union

3)and YES UAE shares the same passport
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirati_passport

Infact England, Scotlands economy are differently built and they have different football teams
I AM FEMI I AM A YORUBA OR WESTERN NIGERIAN

We Yorubas need to study more on heterogenous countries and how there revenus are structures assumming we Yorubas agreed to share our resources with all it would have been a different ball game
but no its a FORCED agreement

Please Dilute my message

amakasul:
You are the liar and a tribal bigot seeking to sow seeds of discord between Nigerians.
Very few apart from ND and SE will agree with your half-baked assumptions.

Scotland does not have full fiscal autonomy from the UK - this is a lie of yours.
Scotland is a country in its right but in union with England, Wales and NI to form UK, which is a misconception of the ibos when they compare themselves to Scotland and referendum.
You should be ashamed to stoke tribalism in this age of multi-ethnic countries and societies.

johnserek:
1) Why are you lying in the face of hard facts? Do you enjoy slavery or what Scotland only pays 25% to UK which is reasonable not 76%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-33268851
England doesnt share its wealth why do you think they can build underground trains, canary wharf, London tower etc you think if majority of income was going to wales they will be where they are.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/11/scotland-fiscal-autonomy-north-sea-oil-tax-forecast-slashed-obr

2)Italy Germany are they not in the same economic union

3)and YES UAE shares the same passport
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirati_passport

Infact England, Scotlands economy are differently built and they have different football teams
I AM FEMI I AM A YORUBA OR WESTERN NIGERIAN

We Yorubas need to study more on heterogenous countries and how there revenus are structures assumming we Yorubas agreed to share our resources with all it would have been a different ball game
but no its a FORCED agreement

Please Dilute my message

johnserek:
I am not stroking tribalism my point is simple your resources are being stolen do you enjoy being a slave or what
Scotland controld 70% of its economy thats okay for Nigeria

QuotaSystem:
You have a common enemy named POVERTY which is why you think a "tribe" is what makes you poor and not your individual lack of productivity

Go and tell LASG to ask Dangote, MRS, Rahamanniyya, BUA, BDC's et al. to leave Lagos because they are milking their resources.

knowledgeable:
My friend, the common enemy here is the disfunctional structure, of which you (hausa/fulani) are the gate keeper of. Is the root cause of poverty, underdevelopment, backwardness, disease, road accidents, corruption, ethnicity, religious extremism, bokoharam, fulani herdsmen slaughtering unhindered, born to rule mentality, power outages, Yoruba/Igbo rivalry, Niger delta militancy, overpaid senators, baby factory, migrant prostitution, Biafra separationist movements, short life span, arm robbery, rituals for money, fulani cattles on roads and farms, foreigners exploitation of Nigerians, no water, no public toilets, no under ground sewer systems, no security, devaluation of naira, oil subsidies, cut off exam mark for different regions, increase in heart attacks, kidney disease/failures, no hospitals, reasons we can't manufacture are own cars, caterpillars, weapons, televisions, telephones, computers, build strong social institutions, hausa/fulani marriage to this disfunctional political structure is the reason we all are living under the weight of a fragile state, and finally, is the reason, Nigerians do not feel they have a future, .......but they will give Buhari enough time to prove them right or wrong.

atbu1983:
K

The North is not d cause of poverty. Corruption is d cause. We are selfish and greedy people. Even when we have d so called 50% resource control we want, it wont lead to much with our current greed.

Here in rivers state where i am , almost all d state scholarship to sturdy Medicine abroad especially in Russia and Ukraine goes to only top politicians and govt officials children who mostly live in portharcourt. The real communities where d revenue are coming from are neglected. Almost everything is concentrated on state capital.

Can you tell me how we are better than Hausa Fulani in managing public fund?

atbu1983:
OP i hate lies. I am from south south. Fulani or Hauss did not create Nigeria Unitary System. The Unitary system was created by Igbo Man General Agunyi Ironsi. At that time d North wanted to leave Nigeria but was advised by d British not to. The truth is dat it was Igbo man Agunyi Ironsi who opened d eyes of Hausa Fulani to Unitary System. Since d North later discovered that it benefits them, they stick to it. Yes it is true d North dont want the Unitary system to stop today, but they did not create it. Agunyi Ironsi quest for total control and power led to this.

Secondly OP, stop lying. You are not yoruba. Your writing style clearly shows that you are Igbo. You created this ur profile five days ago just to claim yoruba.

zendy:
[b]For how long will you Yorubas keep peddling this false story that Ironsi was the one who destroyed regionalism and introduced the unitary system of Government? Yes Ironsi promulgated the unification decree,however, that decree did not erode the essential components of regionalism. All 4 regions where still in existence when Ironsi was killed. The regions still controled their resources. Ironsi needed that decree to enable him rule as a military leader who is used to uniformity. It was Gowon who came in and abrogated the regions, created States and made them mere appendages of the Government at the centre. Let's not keep up this falsehood. To this day, the North has refused to let regionalism return because of their over dependence on the resources of others. Another reason why the North does not want regionalsm is because it will end the political stranglehold they have over Nigeria. I'm an Igbo man, I have gone past squabbling with the Hausa and Yoruba man over what is mine in Nigeria and what is not. Regionalism is no longer good enough. A full secession of all Igbos and Igboid groups under the banner of Biafra is the minimum acceptable demand. We cant keep lying to ourselves that we are one just because a "British terrorist" called Lugard came to west Africa to tell us so. We must all go and look for our individual countries and do away with this 'British created nightmare' called Nigeria which is representative of nobody. Enough is enough [/b]

johnserek:
For those who wonder why they call Southern Nigerian slaves.
Let me explain you see Nigeria is not a homogenous nation it’s a union of various countries or kingdom notably the Yoruba Kingdom, Hausa Kingdom and Igbo kingdom. Now ideally each Kingdom anywhere in the world manages its resources itself and enjoys it alone the English Kingdom doesn’t share its resources with the Scottish Kingdom in Europe Germany doesn’t share its resources with Italy and even though the same country Dubai doesn’t share its resources with other emirates.
And should different kingdoms agree to come together each kingdom must control its own resources, The only way resources are shared is if a kingdom has been subjugated by another for example the old imperial Oyo empire collected tributes from the Egbas, Nupe Kingdom and even the Dahomey Kingdom, The old British empire collected tributes from its colonies inform of tax and resources.
As at independence Nigeria was a union of different independent kingdoms, each were able to manage its own resources, tax in Yoruba territory were paid to Ibadan not Abuja or Lagos, Cocoa the oil of then was 100% enjoyed by the Yorubas, the North enjoyed its own resources east same thing.
But with the intervention of the military in power the Fulani who destroyed the Hausa Kingdom and were even coming for the Yorubas if not for the Great Aalafin of Oyo, Ijebu and Ekiti warriors who defended Yoruba territory, in fact today Ilorin a 100% Yoruba town is listed as an emirate and the British allocated 30 more towns to help create Kwara and Kogi state.
Using the Military, the same Fulani enforced a unitary system which means every regions resources goes to the centre aka Abuja now here is the trick the majority of that money goes to north particularly north west and its shared based on population which is wrong on all scales it’s a form of subjugation.
So from that point of view the Yoruba Kingdom and Igbo Kingdom which has Niger Delta has part of its territory has been subjugated. The Igbos will fight against this system even though they lost mainly due to the fact that the Yorubas didn’t assist militarily and were interested in ruling the entity called Nigeria and the Igbos didn’t carry the Yorubas along in terms of logistics and military empowerment when planning an independence war.
However as the Igbo territory lost the war, its territory was subjugated (today the Fulani’s who fought own virtually all the oil blocs) symbolic to the way Oyo kingdom owned all resources in Dahomey kingdom after Oyo king defeated Dahomey Kingdom) and so was the Yoruba resources even though no war was fought to claim it, the unitary system applied to all.
Today the Yoruba Kingdom is the wealthiest in West Africa it accounts for 55% of the Nigeria’s economic activities and host the richest, fastest growing and biggest city in West Africa.
However their tributes (tax on industries, resources, ports, and customs) are forcefully taken by the same Fulani from the North that is modern day slavery.
The Igbos have always opposed the system, the Niger delta fighting daily for resource control however the Yorubas have not complained about being ripped off rather we have been looking for the most diplomatic way to get it which isn’t working out the only thing the Fulani immigrants understand is Force ask the Cameroonians how they chased Fulanis away.
To be fair I am Yoruba most Yorubas don’t actually know the Billions being generated from their territory belongs to them and not Abuja so they actually don’t know they are under modern day subjugation. Also our President Olusegun Obasanjo didn’t do much about the system which I don’t understand.
Yoruba also like the idea of Nigeria being in a larger family it gives unrestricted access to each ethnic groups purchasing power and creates wealth unfound anywhere in Africa. But my fellow Yorubas we cannot be a union where we simply don’t enjoy the fruits of our labour (tax) and our God given resources (Geographical advantage which gives us the busiest seaports, airports and lucrative borders)
London stock exchange, Dover ports, London Heathrow airport, University of Oxford, Cambridge and London imperial university all pay taxes to the English Kingdom not United Kingdom and even if they should do in a later future, the majority of tax won’t go to Scotland or Wales unless they are subjugated by them.
Dubai enjoys its oil 100% income generated from tourism when you pay for a visa to go to Dubai enjoys the money without sharing with Abudhabi .So should we fight for true regionalism Lagos stock exchange, Apapa, Tin can and PTML Ports, Oyo area command, MMA will all pay taxes to Ibadan you can imagine how rich the Yoruba Kingdom will be. Until we fight for our resources we will never progress forward and will remain modern day subjugated territories that’s the bitter truth Yoruba Ronu.
For those who will insult me and say I am still archaic and stuck in the past ask yourself
1) If we have truly moved forward as a nation and people why don’t we have an Oba in Ilorin, why is Kwara and Kogi west despite being geographically western Nigeria not part of the South west
2) Why do the Igbo have only 5 states despite being huge in number 18% of Nigeria’s population
3) Why is that Lagos has 20 local governments and Kano has 44 local governments despite Lagos having three times population
4) Why is that the term Hausa-Fulani Is accepted but no term like Yoruba/Edo/Ishekiri or Igbo/Ijaw
5) Why can’t your region set its educational standards
6) Why can’t your region builds ports at its will
7) Why must we wait for a central Figure to build infrastructure within our territory
If you go through this questions and you can defend them being a southerner ask yourself are you a slave?

It’s high time for Modern Yoruba youths to wake up from slumber we are in 2015 and cannot afford to be using our God given resources, human talent to finance a dead unproductive empire in a desert that brings nothing to the table.

knowledgeable:
Other races have a rigid belief, that black Africans are incapable of critical analytical reasoning, and we prove them right 100% of the time. My dear African/Nigerian, reasoning analyticall, I dare to tell you that Nigeria problems are NOT bad leadership, bad governance, bad management or corruption, but disfunctional political structure that is foundational/fundamental period. Hausa/fulani are custodian of this disfunctional structure. Bad leadership, corruption and etc, are symptoms of deep rooted foundational disfunctionalities.

Nasman:
I dont have much to say. But, let me draw ur attention, to a myth which is popular in contemporary southern owned Media. Lagos is not and can't be more populous than Kano.
You can blaming us the Fulani as the main cause of your (Southerners). For all I care, we don't give a damn.
Nobody can make Fulani politically irrelevant. We are not Igbos, how Jews are powerful in the US, that's how powerful Fulani are in Nigeria.
Take it or leave it.

amakasul:

You don't know a thing. How does pulling resources of the federation together in a diverse country makes one a slave? Just look at the emotive word you are using! By the way, which 30% of the economy does Scotland not control?

Nasman:
I dont have much to say. But, let me draw ur attention, to a myth which is popular in contemporary southern owned Media. Lagos is not and can't be more populous than Kano.
You can blaming us the Fulani as the main cause of your (Southerners). For all I care, we don't give a damn.
Nobody can make Fulani politically irrelevant. We are not Igbos, how Jews are powerful in the US, that's how powerful Fulani are in Nigeria.
Take it or leave it.

atbu1983:
We love blaming others for our problem. It is a sign of failure. We have been enjoing 13% derivative for more than 13years. What have we done with it? NDDC is d most corrupt agency in Nigeris. NDDC is fully managed by us. Almost all d staffs of NDDC are from d south south. All d staffs do is share d money to develop thier own community among themselves. Buy big cars and chase d beautiful women. Most of NDDC road here in Portharcourt were i Live dont survive 5 years despite all d millions and billions spent on them. Almost all d contractors are indigene. Tell me how Hausa Fulani is responsible for d extreme stealing in NDDC and south south states? He who is faithful with little will be faithful with much. To be sincere with ourselves, even though we dont have 50% resource control we want, we have been given reasonable attention. We have 13% derivative, we have NDDC and we have ministry of Niger Delta. With all this, what have we done to show we are better than Hausa Fulani? That is why i agree with Barrack Obama when he told d black Americans to stop blaming d white for thier failure and take responsibility.

Even though i want resource control, i dont think i want it for d current politicians and leaders we have in Niger Delta.

johnserek:
Some Yoruba youths will read the part of we don't give a damn and still defend the system that subjugate southern Nigeria
- My point is not about making anyone politically irrelevant, my point lies in economic destiny and fiscal federalism
-Kano is not as populous as Lagos for christsake Lagos is a coastal city with busiest portss borders etc no boko haram
- Why are u afraid of regionalism, resource control etc

amakasul:
You are the liar and a tribal bigot seeking to sow seeds of discord between Nigerians.
Very few apart from ND and SE will agree with your half-baked assumptions.

Scotland does not have full fiscal autonomy from the UK - this is a lie of yours.
Scotland is a country in its right but in union with England, Wales and NI to form UK, which is a misconception of the ibos when they compare themselves to Scotland and referendum.
You should be ashamed to stoke tribalism in this age of multi-ethnic countries and societies.

Nasman:
So, since Lagos is a coastal city, then it is more populated than Kano?
For goodness Lagos is the smallest state in terms of land size in the whole federation.
People packed in a small area. The population density will be high. It a simple fact, and this is the case of Lagos. Don't confuse population density with an actual demographic figure.
Take a trip to Kano state., and educate yourself.
I drop my case.

atbu1983:
K

The North is not d cause of poverty. Corruption is d cause. We are selfish and greedy people. Even when we have d so called 50% resource control we want, it wont lead to much with our current greed.

Here in rivers state where i am , almost all d state scholarship to sturdy Medicine abroad especially in Russia and Ukraine goes to only top politicians and govt officials children who mostly live in portharcourt. The real communities where d revenue are coming from are neglected. Almost everything is concentrated on state capital.

Can you tell me how we are better than Hausa Fulani in managing public fund?

knowledgeable:
My friend, the common enemy here is the disfunctional structure, of which you (hausa/fulani) are the gate keeper of. Is the root cause of poverty, underdevelopment, backwardness, disease, road accidents, corruption, ethnicity, religious extremism, bokoharam, fulani herdsmen slaughtering unhindered, born to rule mentality, power outages, Yoruba/Igbo rivalry, Niger delta militancy, overpaid senators, baby factory, migrant prostitution, Biafra separationist movements, short life span, arm robbery, rituals for money, fulani cattles on roads and farms, foreigners exploitation of Nigerians, no water, no public toilets, no under ground sewer systems, no security, devaluation of naira, oil subsidies, cut off exam mark for different regions, increase in heart attacks, kidney disease/failures, no hospitals, reasons we can't manufacture are own cars, caterpillars, weapons, televisions, telephones, computers, build strong social institutions, hausa/fulani marriage to this disfunctional political structure is the reason we all are living under the weight of a fragile state, and finally, is the reason, Nigerians do not feel they have a future, .......but they will give Buhari enough time to prove them right or wrong.

coolitempa:
I am a Yoruba nationalist......I understand that we will always have neighbours whom we might not like.......the OP has many valid points........

johnserek:
Oh pls where in the world is a desert city that offers nothing becomes more populous than a coastal city Mind you the Yorubas are the singular largest ethnic group in the country hausa-Fulani is a scam
Asides Yoruba presence, there's ND, Igbo and Hausa presence all in large scales unfound anywhere in the north

Rawani:
How can you call a region that produces the grains, milk, meat, vegetables and food in general that you depend on for your daily survival, and is filled with numerous solid minerals a 'desert region that offers nothing'?

Now I see the point your opponents have been making. If you had presented your case with sincerity, probably your message will be given the value you desire, however your current approach betrays a dishonest agenda.