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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by PenSniper: 8:56pm On Sep 06, 2015
OKorowanta:


Sorry about dat.
Some people from oda tribes don oppress in those days too.
The truth it's not about d tribe,its about bad individuals with poisoned minds.


Yes, you are correct. People tend to generalise individual experiencies.
No tribe is completely free of certain negative tendencies but with peculiar prepondrance in some cases.
Thanks all the same. I've put it behind me.
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by Kennyfancy(m): 9:08pm On Sep 06, 2015
Goodboiyy:


Hey bro don't say trash about my people.

How many itsekiri av u met ? They re all Accommodating
am an urhobo boy bt i cn beat my chest that d ijaw ar even accomodating more dan we urhobo, bt d itsekiri,( cunning people) run whn u see them

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by laudate: 10:07pm On Sep 06, 2015
erico2k2:

Thats my point, do not make any assumption until you are entirely sure,I'm an urhobo from a family of 7,I am a mechanical Engineer in the Uk our last born is in Uni and would soon grad as a pharmacist, My dad and my immediate brother are chartered accountants, my Mum is an head mistress,two of my sisters are lecturers,I come from teh family of the highest chattered accountants in the world, 7 in total,you can google it,the record is in the guinness book of records.SO If you don't know about certain ethnic group, do not assume from hearsay or waht you just see within your circle.It will be good to migrate out of your immediate comfort and experience life in a different region only then you can make comparison.

Are you one of the Dafi.....? Um?? shocked shocked Sorry, i can't spell your name out in full, because of the need to protect your anonymity. wink
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by Favolly(f): 10:30pm On Sep 06, 2015
erico2k2:

nah you are getting it wrong, I said the first minister of finance in 9ja was Okotie eboh however DOD is an accountant, so i was relating him to you saying you are a chartered acct. so thats where you are misinformed,Im saying if you are urhobo and a chat acct as you said then you should know who D.O.D is .
PS.I dont need to proof read waht I type, in as much as my mesage gets accross its all good.as saying I cant spell chartered acct grin grin grin None of my siblin can change their brake pads but I can cos Im an Engineer.If i go by your analogy then cos they have a brother who is an Engineer they should know how to change their Oil filters right?
I got qualified after may diet, I havent attended the induction ceremony as the last one was held in May So I don't know who D.O.D is, neither do I care TBH

I'm still Urhobo

And yea, I'm still an aaccountant!

Also, WRONG analogy up there....
Requiring them to know how to change their brake pads or oil filters or whatever is asking for too much, I mean it's not like you can prepare bank reconciliation statements or anything.

Nah, let's just stick to the original matter and use the exact 'analogy'. Therefore let's assume that they can spell the words 'mechanical' and 'engineer'

Have a lovely night rest
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by erico2k2(m): 10:33pm On Sep 06, 2015
Favolly:

I got qualified after may diet, I havent attended the induction ceremony as the last one was held in May So I don't know who D.O.D is, neither do I care TBH

I'm still Urhobo

And yea, I'm still a chartered accountant

Also, WRONG analogy up there....
Requiring them to know how to change their brake pads or oil filters or whatever is asking for too much, I mean it's not like you can prepare bank reconciliation statements or anything.

Nah, let's just stick to the original matter and use the exact 'analogy'. Therefore let's assume that they can spell the words 'mechanical' and 'engineer'

Have a lovely night rest
You would care read about D.O Dafinone, then I'm sure you will swallow your own words.
Like I said, I don't care if my words are spelt wrongly,i dont need to proof read after all its Nairaland when its time 2 proof read i will.
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by Favolly(f): 10:42pm On Sep 06, 2015
erico2k2:

You would care read about D.O Dafinone, then Im sure you will swallow your own words.
I just checked him out, I still don't care.
I don't think you'ld care so much if he weren't Urhobo.
Except of course, he's your dad or family member or something. Which explains why you've been trying to force him down my throat angry

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by pbs4real(m): 11:00pm On Sep 06, 2015
Aminat508:
Oya check grin
nyc pix but I wna see the bck view grin
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by erico2k2(m): 11:02pm On Sep 06, 2015
Favolly:

I just checked him out, I still don't care.
I don't think you'ld care so much if he weren't Urhobo.
Except of course, he's your dad or family member or something. Which explains why you've been trying to force him down my throat angry
force ke,Y would I?Im jst sharing info nothing more nothing less.The issue of if he is my Dad or not is irrelevant.I'm very quick to celebrate my people when they achieve at that level, if you ever find yourself in London and in the gathering of UPU I will surely be there, I encourage up coming professionals in teh urhobo kingdom.
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by PenSniper: 11:04pm On Sep 06, 2015
EagleNest:


Why did you force them in Nigeria then?


Their real characteristics were not known then

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by Aminat508(f): 11:07pm On Sep 06, 2015
pbs4real:
nyc pix but I wna see the bck view grin
Wait till Next week

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by pbs4real(m): 11:10pm On Sep 06, 2015
Aminat508:
Wait till Next week
make it this nite nah wink
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by Favolly(f): 11:14pm On Sep 06, 2015
erico2k2:

force ke,Y would I?Im jst sharing info nothing more nothing less.The issue of if he is my Dad or not is irrelevant.I'm very quick to celebrate my people when they achieve at that level, if you ever find yourself in London and in teh gathering of UPU I will surely be there, I encourage up coming professionals in teh urhobo kingdom.
So you're going to deny the fact that you were questioning my roots and the fact that I'm a chartered accountant because I didn't know your dad?
Saying I would swallow my words when I finally read about him. What's all that?

Let me not type what is really on my mind sef, make dem no talk say I dey hate

All hail the Dafinones! *inserts sarcastic smiley* Just in case you think I'm actually hailing.
Lol! Y'all need to get off your high horses abeg
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by erico2k2(m): 11:31pm On Sep 06, 2015
Favolly:

So you're going to deny the fact that you were questioning my roots and the fact that I'm a chartered accountant because I didn't know your dad?
Saying I would swallow my words when I finally read about him. What's all that?

Let me not type what is really on my mind sef, make dem no talk say I dey hate

All hail the Dafinones! *inserts sarcastic smiley* Just in case you think I'm actually hailing.
Lol! Y'all need to get off your high horses abeg
I finished sec school 1992, and Im a first born, guess his age you can figure out if he is my Dad or not,about questioning your roots or your discipline yes you where correct however I was only trying to put you in front of saying stuff without facts, I was in a bar in soho wen I was typing to you, my friend another urhobo guy a a psychologist was laughing at the %50 you pegged our education at,Now, what do you really mean By not educated? no school at all or you mean basic schooling ie just read and write cos the more i think of it the more funny it sounds tbh
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by erico2k2(m): 11:32pm On Sep 06, 2015
pbs4real:
make it this nite nah wink
U dey form jackie chan here abi grin grin
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by pbs4real(m): 11:34pm On Sep 06, 2015
erico2k2:

U dey form jackie chan here abi grin grin
hahaha grin wetin man go do?
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by erico2k2(m): 11:43pm On Sep 06, 2015
pbs4real:
hahaha grin wetin man go do?
ahah Ok oh grin grin
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by Favolly(f): 11:52pm On Sep 06, 2015
erico2k2:

I finished sec school 1992, and Im a first born, guess his age you can figure out if he is my Dad or not,about questioning your roots or your discipline yes you where correct however I was only trying to put you in front of saying stuff without facts, I was in a bar in soho wen I was typing to you, my friend another urhobo guy a a psychologist was laughing at the %50 you pegged our education at,Now, what do you really mean By not educated? no school at all or you mean basic schooling ie just read and write cos the more i think of it the more funny it sounds tbh
So you have all the facts? Speaking live from a Soho bar? Lol! you've been abroad for God knows how long. Yet you think you know all that's happening with the Urhobo race. Please wake up and smell the coffee!
Anyway, there's something called the 'blind-privileged' syndrome. I will just attribute it to that.
I don't even know why you're taking it personal. We've established the fact that you are educated. Well, so am I. But your clan and mine put together aren't even up to 5% of the Urhobo populace. Maybe you need to go to your village and see for yourself.
Also, you just had to tell me you're in Soho. I mean, it was so pointless but you just had to.
PS; Ain't nobody got time to calculate ya age. Tomorrow is Monday, I need my sleep. Some of us not in 'Soho' still have to hussle, you know

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by erico2k2(m): 12:02am On Sep 07, 2015
Favolly:

So you have all the facts? Speaking live from a Soho bar? Lol! you've been abroad for God knows how long. Yet you think you know all that's happening with the Urhobo race. Please wake up and smell the coffee!
Anyway, there's something called the 'blind-privileged' syndrome. I will just attribute it to that.
I don't even know why you're taking it personal. We've established the fact that you are educated. Well, so am I. But your clan and mine put together aren't even up to 5% of the Urhobo populace. Maybe you need to go to your village and see for yourself.
Also, you just had to tell me you're in Soho. I mean, it was so pointless but you just had to.
PS; Ain't nobody got time to calculate ya age. Tomorrow is Monday, I need my sleep. Some of us not in 'Soho' still have to hussle, you know
U r a very funny person Y wont I take it personal wen U say such word as on %50 of the urhobos are not educated,I grew up in sapele and we all went to school, mayB you grew up where people do not go to school ,that's the only reason I can attribute to your %50.About Soho,what's the big deal,I have to be somewhere,Im sure you are somewhere and it has a name,tbh there ain't no big deal to be in soho if U ask me its full of crack heads Im only here cos of work anyways U got ur beauty bed Im at wrk and using my mobile hence my text are predictive Im sure even u can figure that out.
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by laudate: 12:04am On Sep 07, 2015
Favolly:

So you have all the facts? Speaking live from a Soho bar? Lol! you've been abroad for God knows how long. Yet you think you know all that's happening with the Urhobo race. Please wake up and smell the coffee!
Anyway, there's something called the 'blind-privileged' syndrome. I will just attribute it to that.
I don't even know why you're taking it personal. We've established the fact that you are educated. Well, so am I. But your clan and mine put together aren't even up to 5% of the Urhobo populace. Maybe you need to go to your village and see for yourself.
Also, you just had to tell me you're in Soho. I mean, it was so pointless but you just had to.
PS; Ain't nobody got time to calculate ya age. Tomorrow is Monday, I need my sleep. Some of us not in 'Soho' still have to hussle, you know

I have gone through this thread with a lot of interest and honestly, am baffled at some of the generalisations that have been thrown up here.

I have just 2 questions:

Did anyone conduct a census on the number of educated Urhobo people, before they came to a conclusion that they constituted 5% or 50% of the entire Urhobo ethnic group? shocked shocked

Are your comments based on just your own personal observations, or the general stereotypes that keep floating out there?

Did you observe a high level of illiteracy among the Urhobo folks, living in either:
(a). the slums;
(b). the cities
(c). urban settlements?

The reason I ask, is because it is difficult to win an argument without verifiable data. If the level of education has been dropping among the Urhobo ethnic group in the slums, then it cannot be said to be representative of the entire Urhobo ethnic group as generally, literacy levels among slum dwellers are poor.

If the literacy level among Urhobo in the villages are also poor, then it means the state govt is not doing enough to invest in the education of the citizens of the state, irrespective of whether they are Urhobo, Ijaw or Itsekiri! More needs to be done at all levels! By all state govts! angry

If your sampling is done among Urhobo in different parts of Nigeria, and the observation still remains the same, then it would appear that somehow the Urhobos have been denied the benefit of, or access to a good education. Or it could be that they are not sufficiently motivated to seek education. But you would need a lot of proof to support this assertion. sad

There is a lot that can be said, but one needs to be careful about tossing remarks like this into the public domain, without adequate facts to back it up. Just my 2 cents. undecided
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by erico2k2(m): 8:55am On Sep 07, 2015
laudate:


I have gone through this thread with a lot of interest and honestly, am baffled at some of the generalisations that have been thrown up here.

I have just 2 questions:

Did anyone conduct a census on the number of educated Urhobo people, before they came to a conclusion that they constituted 5% or 50% of the entire Urhobo ethnic group? shocked shocked

Are your comments based on just your own personal observations, or the general stereotypes that keep floating out there?

Did you obserev a high level of illiterarcy among the Urhobo folks, living in either:
(a). the slums;
(b). the cities
(c). urban settlements?

The reason I ask, is because it is difficult to win an argument without verifiable data. If the level of education has been dropping among the Urhobo ethnic group in the slums, then it cannot be said to be representative of the entire Urhobo ethnic group as generally, literacy levels among slum dwellers are poor.

If the literacy level among Urhobo in the villages are also poor, then it means the state govt is not doing enough to invest in the education of the citizens of the state, irrespective of whether they are Urhobo, Ijaw or Itsekiri! More needs to be done at all levels! By all state govts! angry

If your sampling is done among Urhobo in different parts of Nigeria, and the observation still remains the same, then it would appear that somehow the Urhobos have been denied the benefit of, or access to a good education. Or it could be that they are not sufficiently motivated to seek education. But you would need a lot of proof to support this assertion. sad

There is a lot that can be said, but one needs to be careful about tossing remarks like this into the public domain, without adequate facts to back it up. Just my 2 cents. undecided

God bless U.this is what I was trying to say hence I was steering her to an urhobo high achiever in her field. I do not know where she grew up but like U said it might be an area where the people do not get educated. I grew up in sapele and only left due to uni in the East. All my friends went to school. One of my classmate in pry school represents Nigeria at the UN on renewable Energy and he is based in warri. U know some people just assume..
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by macof(m): 3:25pm On Sep 07, 2015
Apart from Warri, what other areas make up Itsekiri land? Am not talking settler communities but real Itsekiri

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by Favolly(f): 3:33pm On Sep 07, 2015
laudate:


I have gone through this thread with a lot of interest and honestly, am baffled at some of the generalisations that have been thrown up here.

I have just 2 questions:

Did anyone conduct a census on the number of educated Urhobo people, before they came to a conclusion that they constituted 5% or 50% of the entire Urhobo ethnic group? shocked shocked

Are your comments based on just your own personal observations, or the general stereotypes that keep floating out there?

Did you obserev a high level of illiterarcy among the Urhobo folks, living in either:
(a). the slums;
(b). the cities
(c). urban settlements?

The reason I ask, is because it is difficult to win an argument without verifiable data. If the level of education has been dropping among the Urhobo ethnic group in the slums, then it cannot be said to be representative of the entire Urhobo ethnic group as generally, literacy levels among slum dwellers are poor.

If the literacy level among Urhobo in the villages are also poor, then it means the state govt is not doing enough to invest in the education of the citizens of the state, irrespective of whether they are Urhobo, Ijaw or Itsekiri! More needs to be done at all levels! By all state govts! angry

If your sampling is done among Urhobo in different parts of Nigeria, and the observation still remains the same, then it would appear that somehow the Urhobos have been denied the benefit of, or access to a good education. Or it could be that they are not sufficiently motivated to seek education. But you would need a lot of proof to support this assertion. sad

There is a lot that can be said, but one needs to be careful about tossing remarks like this into the public domain, without adequate facts to back it up. Just my 2 cents. undecided

I clearly stated previously that it is my opinion. I never claimed I have all the facts. I obviously didnt conduct a census neither was I quoting NBS figures or anything. I spoke based on my experiences with people I have interacted with overtime.

I have met a lot of people from there who either aren't educated or who are but still think like they aren't. I'm not even talking about villagers, because I've never even been to my village. The other day, a family friend was lamenting that after looking for so long for an Urhobo man to marry, she still ended up with a Yoruba man. I asked her why she was so particular about marrying an Urhobo man. She said she didn't want her children to be treated as an outcast after she dies. Apparently according to the 'tradition', a woman must be buried in her own home town or else her children would have no stake in her properties or something silly like that.
So I'm like 'Seriously? That' mentality is what held you? Ever heard of medical power of attorney??'
This is just one example, I've met many others, and it's something I've been worried about for some time now

I don't understand why Mr. Dafinone is taking it personal, I didn't make generalizations. Also, I have the right to my own opinion. His clan is educated, yes. But I still insist that doesn't consist 5% of the populace. I dont need to conduct a census to know that, there are thousands of them out there

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by onuwaje(m): 4:03pm On Sep 07, 2015
macof:
Apart from Warri, what other areas make up Itsekiri land? Am not talking settler communities but real Itsekiri
Warri north, south and south-west

There r itsekiri settlements in uvwie, okpe(both in delta state), ondo and edo
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by macof(m): 4:56pm On Sep 07, 2015
onuwaje:

Warri north, south and south-west

There r itsekiri settlements in uvwie, okpe(both in delta state), ondo and edo


So Itsekiri land is just warri

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by onuwaje(m): 5:07pm On Sep 07, 2015
macof:



So Itsekiri land is just warri

All 3 warri LGA

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by kotv: 8:31pm On Sep 07, 2015
as an izon, I have nothing in common with an itsekiri. op should stop trying to spin it like we do.

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by Nobody: 1:22am On Sep 08, 2015
kotv:
as an izon, I have nothing in common with an itsekiri. op should stop trying to spin it like we do.

This thread was nt created 4 ur type, I created d thread for a purpose and thank God I achieved it, I don't need to argue anything with u, If u think u gat nothing in common with Itsekiri den I can bet u re nt from Ijaw as u claimed.

U re nt d only Ijaw On NL, Many have read and smiled, Don't know ur problem with Itsekiri.

Buh I gat something for u bro, The Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo re Now Living Peacefully together,, Go Bleep urself. Enemy Of Progress

May God Strengthen our Unity
Amen.

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by tpiander: 1:48am On Sep 08, 2015
I really dont think you're Itsekiri.


99% of the time, anyone saying "we" this or that, is not who they say they are, but simply following an agenda.

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Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by onuwaje(m): 3:02am On Sep 08, 2015
tpiander:
I really dont think you're Itsekiri.


99% of the time, anyone saying "we" this or that, is not who they say they are, but simply following an agenda.
If u r from delta state u would understand so gerrara here men
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by tpiah01: 5:41am On Sep 08, 2015
onuwaje:

If I'm from delta state I would understand so I gerrara here men
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by erico2k2(m): 8:12am On Sep 08, 2015
I think they Ijaw. Itsekiri and Urhobos are closely related in tradition.dress same.have same food.marry in same way.though language differ but same kinda people.
Re: Some Similarities Between Ijaw , Urhobo And Itsekiri by onuwaje(m): 8:38am On Sep 08, 2015
erico2k2:
I think they Ijaw. Itsekiri and Urhobos are closely related in tradition.dress same.have same food.marry in same way.though language differ but same kinda people.

If it's dressing the ijaws are kinda different from the others

Language- d urhobos and itsekiris borrow word from each oda ( a lot)

Marriage- there are more urhobo/itsekiri marriages dan itsekiri/ijaw or urhobo/ijaw

Every oda thing. Virtually d same

I'm talking from a delta state perspective

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