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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:12am On Sep 08, 2015
Sobuza3:
This is why your brothers ran away from home
The fact remains, despite Nigerias huge GDP we will always have more money in hand to spend and build infrastructure than Nigeria. America will always have more money in hand to spend than China.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:14am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
Our old R4s are still more modern than your new so called OBJ. Out old R4s use flip butt made of plastic rubber and a flash hider which makes it more modern than your OBJ despite the fact than it was manufactured some 30 years ago
Your cheap Israeli knock off is obsolete!


SAAF AW109
(click to view full)
July 7/14: Review. South Africa’s own 2014 Defense Review process confirms the ongoing thrust of this article, even as it tries to lay out a 4-phase, 20-year plan to restore military effectiveness:

“According to the Review the SANDF is in a critical state of decline, is unsustainable and prime mission equipment, especially in the landward force, faces block obsolescence. “Ammunition stocks are depleted, infrastructure is falling apart, skilled staff is leaving and the arms of the various services operate in silos and are unable to manage basic procurement, which is centralised and run by the deputy director-general in the Defence Secretariat.”
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:14am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
South Africa has only 6 pilot for Gripen not 9. They are even considering selling them.



Four months after admitting that 12 of its 26 Gripen jet fighters had been placed in storage because they were too expensive to operate and there were not enough qualified pilots to fly them, South African officials admitted that the maintenance contracts for all the Gripens had expired in April. That made long term use of the Gripens dangerous. This contract was with a reliable, and expensive, South African firm (Denel). The maintenance contracts pay for ongoing support for the aircraft to include updates and warnings on problems other users have encountered as well as access to manufacturer engineers and maintenance experts. Aircraft become more dangerous to operate (if they operate at all) without regular maintenance and these maintenance contracts are a critical part of that. Some South African politicians are now calling for the Gripens to be sold, as there is not likely to be sufficient money to operate them and retain qualified pilots.

Currently only about half of the remaining 14 Gripens are flyable and there are only six qualified Gripen pilots. Corruption, shrinking defense budgets, and political pressure to find more black combat pilots and technical personnel has led to the South African Air Force having fewer operational aircraft. All this has been going on for over a decade.

For example, back in 2009, the South African Air Force stopped automatically releasing data on how many hours combat pilots flew for training. When the numbers were finally obtained, it was discovered that in 2008, fighter pilots were in the air for 325 hours (less than two hours a month per pilot). In contrast, pilots on VIP flights (carrying politicians and government officials) were up there 1,932 hours. There are about fifty transports and 80 helicopters in the air force at the time, and that number has continued to shrink.


https://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/South-Africa-Loses-Use-Of-Its-new-Gripens-8-18-2013.asp
What about Nigeria which only has three F7 pilots?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 7:14am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
GDP is nothing other than just useless figures. What I want SA to achieve is a state of the art infrastructure and provision of better life for all. As long as we can build as many houses for our people, provide them with descent sanitation, electricity, the best transport system, road networks, eradication of slums and good life. That's what I wish SA to achieve and not for some useless status in Africa. I want SA to look beautiful for I know it will be a feature that will pain you for the rest of your life.


http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/nigeria-vs-sa-gdp-is-not-everything-says-martyn-davies/37854/
GDP has been your bragging right as the largest economy in Africa until Nigeria _fucked you out. Now it's nothing but numbers. Pathetic ass_hole.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 7:18am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
Fact: Nigeria has only three F7 fighter pilots
Post your source. We still have 12 F7 and with more than enough pilots.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 7:19am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
You fool, you only have a single Pilot who can land at sea, this is somalia, burundi, malawi standard.

Only a soweto clown would think that's first world standard.


Fact : SAAF cannot perform it's basic duty of protecting the SA air space.

Fact : The hopeless SAAF is begging for pilots from commercial airlines to fly it's assets as the current crop of pilots are to dull to fly the Gripen, Hawk , Puma Helicopter and every other asset.


Fact : only 1 SAAF pilot is qualified to land at sea.

Fact : SAAF only has 9 Gripen Pilots and none of them are combat qualified.

Fact : the SAAF is an inherently useless force.
If it makes you sleep at night grin

Lol talk of ambition. Gripen vs F7 hahahahaha! Please buy new jets

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:20am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
Your cheap Israeli knock off is obsolete!


SAAF AW109
(click to view full)
July 7/14: Review. South Africa’s own 2014 Defense Review process confirms the ongoing thrust of this article, even as it tries to lay out a 4-phase, 20-year plan to restore military effectiveness:

“According to the Review the SANDF is in a critical state of decline, is unsustainable and prime mission equipment, especially in the landward force, faces block obsolescence. “Ammunition stocks are depleted, infrastructure is falling apart, skilled staff is leaving and the arms of the various services operate in silos and are unable to manage basic procurement, which is centralised and run by the deputy director-general in the Defence Secretariat.”
Oh!! hell no. Do you say that you can stand before the R4 and test if is obsolete or not. R4 is still 100% in operation and will kill the hell out of you my friend. It is more modern than your OBJ without any doubts. OBJ is just an exact copy of AKA and has changed nothing, even with that same 1960 uncomfortable fixed wooden butt. Seriously, where is innovation there. Do you want to tell me that you couldn't see that butt is outdated and needed some new look.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 7:22am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
Fact: Nigeria has only three F7 fighter pilots
Nigerians aren't Zulus. We have more pilots than we can ever need.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:24am On Sep 08, 2015
Sobuza3:
This is why your brothers ran away from home
No, no....... You fool!

Nigerians are amongst the world's most traveled people, we have an inherent compulsion to explore. This is why Afren oil and gas co, a Nigerian company, is the only African company doing business in Iraq's oil sector, we are also building plants in Nepal.

We are adventurous!

Nigeria is the best country in Africa!

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:27am On Sep 08, 2015
Sobuza3:
If it makes you sleep at night grin

Lol talk of ambition. Gripen vs F7 hahahahaha! Please buy new jets
That is what makes Nigerians angry. They always ask their government why is SA always getting the best while they are always fasten at the back of a bus. Their government is not honest enough to tell them that "listen, SA has a small population with revenues that are more than 3X Nigeria's revenues". The same applies to schildren from small families as compared to large families whose children always have to fight for food in order to get their share.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 7:29am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
The fact remains, despite Nigerias huge GDP we will always have more money in hand to spend and build infrastructure than Nigeria. America will always have more money in hand to spend than China.
how do you have more money in hand to spend when you can't pay 6 combat pilots. Nonsense.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 7:33am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
No, no....... You fool!

Nigerians are amongst the world's most traveled people, we have an inherent compulsion to explore. This is why Afren oil and gas co, a Nigerian company, is the only African company doing business in Iraq's oil sector, we are also building plants in Nepal.

We are adventurous!

Nigeria is the best country in Africa!
Stup*d lot's of SA companies have plants abroad. Sasol has a plant's in Canada, Australia and now Qatar
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m):
Henry120:
No, no....... You fool!

Nigerians are amongst the world's most traveled people, we have an inherent compulsion to explore. This is why Afren oil and gas co, a Nigerian company, is the only African company doing business in Iraq's oil sector, we are also building plants in Nepal.

We are adventurous!

Nigeria is the best country in Africa!
What do you gain from travelling since you don't even travel but become an unwanted settler. A tourist that does not bring in money but to worsen social problems of other countries by selling druga. You only prove to the world that you are an economic refugee and slave other than a tourist.


For as long SA is in Africa you will have tough time to claim to be the best in Africa, since SA has massive infrastructure that supersede that of Naija.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 7:35am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
That is what makes Nigerians angry. They always ask their government why is SA always getting the best while they are always fasten at the back of a bus. Their government is not honest enough to tell them that "listen, SA has a small population with revenues that are more than 3X Nigeria's revenues". The same applies to schildren from small families as compared to large families whose children always have to fight for food in order to get their share.
where did you get that info from.
I told you b4 FIRS alone generated over $30 billion dollars in 2014 without oil revenues. N4.69 trillion when a dollar was 160

Who told you you have money.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/firs-generates-n4-69tn-revenue-in-2014/200484/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:38am On Sep 08, 2015
Sobuza3:
If it makes you sleep at night grin

Lol talk of ambition. Gripen vs F7 hahahahaha! Please buy new jets
Considering you have 0 combat qualified pilots, it would be a home run for the Nigerian Air Force.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:39am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
where did you get that info from.
I told you b4 FIRS alone generated over $30 billion dollars in 2014 without oil revenues.

Who told you you have money.
We always follow Nigeria's budget speeches and there is no need to exaggerate please. Your budgets stand no any further than $25 billion. Thank you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 7:41am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
We always follow Nigeria's budget speeches and there is no need to exaggerate please. Your budgets stand no any further than $25 billion. Thank you.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/firs-generates-n4-69tn-revenue-in-2014/200484/ when a dollar was 160.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:44am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
Considering you have 0 combat qualified pilots, it would be a home run for the Nigerian Air Force.
Nigeria has equally zero combat qualified pilots.

None of Nigeria's pilot on earth has ever been involved in a dog fight or even fired a missile. What we have seen was that you were fighting an enemy that had zero air force and mostly you were using cannon and sometimes free falling bombs. Do you call such pilots combat qualified where even one of them was offloaded from his Alpha jet by just poorly armed Boko haram militants? Please stop making jokes.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:46am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/firs-generates-n4-69tn-revenue-in-2014/200484/ when a dollar was 160.
After you paid off all the stakeholders you are only left with a budget that does not go anywhere near $25 billion. We usually follow it every year.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 7:51am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
No, no....... You fool!

Nigerians are amongst the world's most traveled people, we have an inherent compulsion to explore. This is why Afren oil and gas co, a Nigerian company, is the only African company doing business in Iraq's oil sector, we are also building plants in Nepal.

We are adventurous!

Nigeria is the best country in Africa!
Again your ambition supersedes the truth, Naira idiot cannot compare SA with your useless ugly country.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 7:53am On Sep 08, 2015
Just admit that you are not in our league

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 7:53am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
After you paid off all the stakeholders you are only left with a budget that does not go anywhere near $25 billion. We usually follow it every year.
no oil revenues yet. FIRS is just taxes.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:55am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
No, no....... You fool!

Nigerians are amongst the world's most traveled people, we have an inherent compulsion to explore. This is why Afren oil and gas co, a Nigerian company, is the only African company doing business in Iraq's oil sector, we are also building plants in Nepal.

We are adventurous!

Nigeria is the best country in Africa!
Go look at SASOL and Petro SA before you spew your ignorance.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 7:59am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
That is what makes Nigerians angry. They always ask their government why is SA always getting the best while they are always fasten at the back of a bus. Their government is not honest enough to tell them that "listen, SA has a small population with revenues that are more than 3X Nigeria's revenues". The same applies to schildren from small families as compared to large families whose children always have to fight for food in order to get their share.
They should consider family planning, clearly there isn't enough money to take care of them and buy proper military equipment. Always getting handouts and Chinese cheap nonsense
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:06am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
no oil revenues yet. FIRS is just taxes.
I don't know much about your claims but all your budget in restricted under $25 billion and that's what we must concentrate on. Fact.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:09am On Sep 08, 2015
South Africa third largest economy in Africa grin grin grin cheesy shocked cool shocked tongue tongue smiley
Algerian are coming to take over too. Mumu
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:10am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
no oil revenues yet. FIRS is just taxes.
I don't know much about your claims but all your budget in restricted under $25 billion and that's what we must concentrate on. Fact.



From the same source and I quote.


According to the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN), the revenue was derived from petroleum profit and non-oil taxes, including income tax, gas income, capital gain tax, stamp duty and Value Added Tax (VAT).
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:13am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
South Africa third largest economy in Africa grin grin grin cheesy shocked cool shocked tongue tongue smiley
Algerian are coming to take over too. Mumu
Let us be the last on the continent. Nobody will take our most advanced economy and huge infrastructure from us. I say again GDP is not paradise but just only figures.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:20am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
I don't know much about your claims but all your budget in restricted under $25 billion and that's what we must concentrate on. Fact.



From the same source and I quote.


According to the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN), the revenue was derived from petroleum profit and non-oil taxes, including income tax, gas income, capital gain tax, stamp duty and Value Added Tax (VAT).
Lie FIRS don't collect oil revenues just taxes. You might be mixing something up.

Even Nigerian customs service alone generates over 5billion dollars.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:24am On Sep 08, 2015
SA economy grows by 4.1%, despite negative growth, I know we shall overcome, just one day.


http://www.southafrica.info/news/business/gdp-250215.htm#.Ve6MWPlBtAg
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:25am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
Lie FIRS don't collect oil revenues just taxes. You might be mixing something up.

Even Nigerian customs service alone generates over 5billion dollars.
Now you are arguing with your source, how desperate are you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:25am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
Let us be the last on the continent. Nobody will take our most advanced economy and huge infrastructure from us. I say again GDP is not paradise but just only figures.
Your advanced economy has no future and your infrastructure is putting you in serious debt since Zulu now depend on government to provide shelter for them.

I will so laugh when you start facing issues like Greece. The whites are buying your country over without you knowing.
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