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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:56am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
Lie this is 2013 report.

I can give you more than 4 links on the pathetic state of your air force. Don't try to deny facts.
Being a source written in 2013 does not mean the writer cannot be nostalgic and revert back to the years of 2009 and 10 when we first received our first batch of gripens. I told you one of the weaknesses of Nigerians is their laziness to read and inability to analyse the facts.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:56am On Sep 08, 2015
Patchesagain:
[size=15pt]Henry120 continues with double standards and strawman arguments[/size]

You fool, you only have a single Pilot who can land at sea, this is somalia, burundi, malawi standard

1. "apparently"
2. How many Nigerian pilots can land at sea?

Fact : SAAF cannot perform it's basic duty of protecting the SA air space

With 14 Gripen and 26 Hawk operational inbound say we are in a better position to do so than you

But your position is worse:

Nigeria has an Air Force with few functional aircraft. The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is largely irrelevant. - global security

Fact : The hopeless SAAF is begging for pilots from commercial airlines to fly it's assets as the current crop of pilots are to dull to fly the Gripen, Hawk , Puma Helicopter and every other asset

This is simply a complete and utter lie and is not at all what the article says

It shows your desperation to find stuff to criticse us over when you have to resort to MAKING THINGS UP

Fact : only 1 SAAF pilot is qualified to land at sea.

1. "apparently"
2. How many do you have?
3. Killer blow: refer to your own thread and see Oryx and Lynx landing on vessels during recent operations

Fact : SAAF only has 9 Gripen Pilots and none of them are combat qualified.

You have been saying this for months - but you can't provide any proof to substantiate it

Fact : the SAAF is an inherently useless force.

Nigeria has an Air Force with few functional aircraft. The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is largely irrelevant.

As of 2009, most of its fleets were grounded and its training institutions were constrained with shortages of technical skills such as instructors and institutional facilities

Depot Maintenance (PDM) with time, and not by hours flown, because they are most of the time grounded for unserviceability
.
- global security

Yes again you apply 1st world standards to us but fail to apply them to yourselves

Your airforce is a joke, your constant attacks on the SAAF is nothing more than the projection of your own insecurities
The SAAF is a complete and utter Joke. Your Air Force is useless, and this is a fact that has been proven time and again.

It is astonishing your constant defence of your stupendously inept and incompetent Air Force even in the face of overwhelming evidence of the ineptitude of the SAAF. It tells about your overall delusional state.



The Nigerian Airforce on the other hand has carried out over 4,000 Combat sorties in 8 months.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:58am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
Pls take corrections. Taxes on oil revenues
Nope, profit please.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:01am On Sep 08, 2015
EVarn:
We will be generating almost twice your fiscal budget by 2018 due to new government policies.
I think that amount of money is quite sufficient to cater for our huge population and still have enough left to store.
From what exactly? Are you going to hold people at gunpoint to release the money?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:03am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
The SAAF is a complete and utter Joke. Your Air Force is useless, and this is a fact that has been proven time and again.

It is astonishing your constant defence of your stupendously inept and incompetent Air Force even in the face of overwhelming evidence of the ineptitude of the SAAF. It tells about your overall delusional state.



The Nigerian Airforce on the other hand has carried out over 4,000 Combat sorties in 8 months.
It is only a fool that will not see SAAF as far more advanced than NAF. The truth that agaugust even secretly admitted on beegeagle.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:04am On Sep 08, 2015
Sobuza3:
Again your ambition supersedes the truth, Naira idiot cannot compare SA with your useless ugly country.
You clown won't know what fantastic infrastructure is, even if it was stabbing you in the eyes!


You are that retarrded.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:05am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
It is only a fool that will not see SAAF as far more developed than NAF. The truth that agaugust even secretly admitted on beegeagle.
You do not have pilots, how are you better?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:08am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
You clown won't know what fantastic infrastructure is, even if it was stabbing you in the eyes!


You are that retarrded.
Dragging from behind the huge infrastructure that SA has.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:10am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
You do not have pilots, how are you better?
Naf is even worse that almost all their fleet has been grounded. Your only three pilots will even have nothing to fly with.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:23am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
Another word for crude oil is simply petroleum and I stand to correct you.
hahahahaha..accept your mistake,stop shifting goal post!.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 11:26am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
Naf is even worse that almost all their fleet has been grounded. Your only three pilots will even have nothing to fly with.
After seeing photos of different aircraft in action.
Pls post you source.
We have more combat aircraft that you do. And more pilots
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m):
iblawi:
After seeing photos of different aircraft in action.
Pls post you source.
We have more combat aircraft that you do. And more pilots
You have zero attack helicopters, only three functional fighter jets which we don't know their conditions so far and some few 1980 alpha jets. Will that ever stand 26 new 4th gen gripens and 24 new hawks jets?


I quote:

Nigeria has an Air Force with few functional aircraft. The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is largely irrelevant. Most of the Generals are pilots who feel the need to focus on fighter aircraft to protect Nigerian airspace against foreign incursion (by whom they won't say). With the exception of the helicopter fleet being used in the Niger Delta, most of NAF's aircraft are non-functional. There are six times as many general officers and flag officers in the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) and Nigerian Navy (NN) as there are operational ships and aircraft.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/air-force.htm



Any air force in Africa will humiliate NAF big time.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:37am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
From what exactly? Are you going to hold people at gunpoint to release the money?
From taxes.
Enforcement of TIN will ensure that huge tax revenues are accrued and necessary data is captured.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 11:48am On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
You have zero attack helicopters, only three functional fighter jets which we don't know their conditions so far and some few 1980 alpha jets. Will that ever stand 26 new 4th gen gripens and 24 new hawks jets?
What are you say? We have 12 F7, 12 L-39, 11alpha jets, more than 12 M339, 9 MI24/MI35 with 6 on order, we have 5 MI 17 and 6 on order super puma, gazelle helicopters many others and they are all in action super king, over 20 Augusta helicopters etc are you dreaming?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:50am On Sep 08, 2015
EVarn:
From taxes.
Enforcement of TIN will ensure that huge tax revenues are accrued and necessary data is captured.
Go away and stop diminishing yourself into mockery.Hehehehehe… huge tax bills scare away potential investors.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 11:51am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
You clown won't know what fantastic infrastructure is, even if it was stabbing you in the eyes!


You are that retarrded.
Back at you clown

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:51am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
South Africa has only 6 pilot for Gripen not 9. They are even considering selling them.



Four months after admitting that 12 of its 26 Gripen jet fighters had been placed in storage because they were too expensive to operate and there were not enough qualified pilots to fly them, South African officials admitted that the maintenance contracts for all the Gripens had expired in April. That made long term use of the Gripens dangerous. This contract was with a reliable, and expensive, South African firm (Denel). The maintenance contracts pay for ongoing support for the aircraft to include updates and warnings on problems other users have encountered as well as access to manufacturer engineers and maintenance experts. Aircraft become more dangerous to operate (if they operate at all) without regular maintenance and these maintenance contracts are a critical part of that. Some South African politicians are now calling for the Gripens to be sold, as there is not likely to be sufficient money to operate them and retain qualified pilots.

Currently only about half of the remaining 14 Gripens are flyable and there are only six qualified Gripen pilots. Corruption, shrinking defense budgets, and political pressure to find more black combat pilots and technical personnel has led to the South African Air Force having fewer operational aircraft. All this has been going on for over a decade.

For example, back in 2009, the South African Air Force stopped automatically releasing data on how many hours combat pilots flew for training. When the numbers were finally obtained, it was discovered that in 2008, fighter pilots were in the air for 325 hours (less than two hours a month per pilot). In contrast, pilots on VIP flights (carrying politicians and government officials) were up there 1,932 hours. There are about fifty transports and 80 helicopters in the air force at the time, and that number has continued to shrink.


https://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/South-Africa-Loses-Use-Of-Its-new-Gripens-8-18-2013.asp




You should post your own source. Nigerian airforce is far better than your SAAF.
Your source is outdated

saaf confirmed there were 18 Gripen aircrew back in late 2013
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:52am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
What are you say? We have 12 F7, 12 L-39, 11alpha jets, more than 12 M339, 9 MI24/MI35 with 6 on order, we have 5 MI 17 and 6 on order super puma, gazelle helicopters many others and they are all in action super king, over 20 Augusta helicopters etc are you dreaming.
Most of your fleet is down. The evidence was there when your Air force could only use one aircraft at the time to bomb BH.


For more info.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/air-force.htm
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 11:52am On Sep 08, 2015
lezz:
Zulu let me help you break the lamentations of your Wendy Ledwaba, your girl friend. She wishes xenophobia to catch up with nigerians in South Africa. And what's her problem? SHE SAYS NIGERIANS BELIEVE THEY ARE UNTOUCHABLE. THEY ARE HEARTLESS AND CAUSED SO MUCH PAIN AND HEARTACHE. SHE SAYS HER BEST FRIEND IS MARRIED TO A NIGERIAN.

Zulu do you need any soothsayer to tell you Wendy Ledwaba haa been _fucked on all holes by nigerians. Her heart is bleeding from pain and anguish and only a nigerian can heal her. It's a typical bad boy stunt on her and she's venting her frustrations and pains online.


Yes we nigerians go to south Africa and walk around like lords, because we think nothing of you. You are nothing but glorified slaves. And what are you talking about south African citizenship?

Who wants to be identified with zulus?

1- South Africa is the worst place any blackmailed can be

2- Being a blackman in South Africa is donning the cloak of shame

3- Being a south African citizen is having a guaranteed slavery for my children

-4 being a black man in South Africa is having no heritage or identity by which my children will be known


-5 As a black man in South Africa you're more likely to die of HIV than in any other country on earth

-6 As a black african if you open a business or enterprise you're more likely to fall victim of looting and killings by the locals who are jealous prone to foreigners

-7 You are more likely to experience the rape of your wife or daughter as a south African citizen than any other country
-8 As a black south African you will always carry the badge as the last freed slaves of the world. Bailed and freed by the benevolence of Africa. The only country where an ethnic population of 80+% is still an economic and land slave to a 7% minority.

No son, no one wants to be a Zulu citizen. The best we do is to drug-Bleep your women and leave them broken and have them ferry our stuffs overseas. We stuff your community with drugs and use same money to love-vendor and flex your women. That's double ŕàpè,Zulu.

Ask your girlfriend Wendy Ledwaba why she hates nigerian and she will tell you it's a personal story. She has been choking on a huge naija Còck while her younger sister was the local courier for her naija boyfriend supplying powder in the streets.

She did all these hoping to settle down with this guy but Zulu babes have only big butty going for them -no brains.

And I love that Zulu name - I've never seen anything that sounded more primitive than Zulu grin grin grin
You will walk in south Africa like lords in your imagination while in reality you always cry for your government protection..you will only dream of living south African standard life of living...if Nigerians were not suffering in their own land,I dont think they would risk their lives in countries like Indonesia or Malaysia but due to the fact that your country is a shi..thole plus your leaders dont give a damn...you are all seeking refuge in foreign lands ignoring even deadly treatments by the host countries...dont project your problems on us ...you will only show your fake muscles here on the internet but in reality you know very well that south Africans are good in panelbeatings...if we can present both countries rape and crime stats without fear of favour..you will see that it is a curse to be Nigerian...just thank the internet,you and I cannot have this kind of interaction face to face...remember you are a kwerekwere,in other words,you are dirty,you stink....you should be grateful for the south African government for allowing you in here,you dont deserve to live or stay in this beautiful country..thats why ordinary south African give you some panel beating sometime...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:53am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
The SAAF is a complete and utter Joke. Your Air Force is useless, and this is a fact that has been proven time and again.

It is astonishing your constant defence of your stupendously inept and incompetent Air Force even in the face of overwhelming evidence of the ineptitude of the SAAF. It tells about your overall delusional state.



The Nigerian Airforce on the other hand has carried out over 4,000 Combat sorties in 8 months.
Resorting to petty insults Now?

Henry120, you have yet to prove anything

You can start with posting a Nigerian helo landing on a ship
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:53am On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
You do not have pilots, how are you better?
Who says we don't have pilots?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 11:54am On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
What are you say? We have 12 F7, 12 L-39, 11alpha jets, more than 12 M339, 9 MI24/MI35 with 6 on order, we have 5 MI 17 and 6 on order super puma, gazelle helicopters many others and they are all in action super king, over 20 Augusta helicopters etc are you dreaming?
90% is grouded. Only 3 pilots for your useless junk jets.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 12:03pm On Sep 08, 2015
Henry120:
You clown won't know what fantastic infrastructure is, even if it was stabbing you in the eyes!


You are that retarrded.
Nigeria only dreams of becoming SA in the next 20 years

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 12:05pm On Sep 08, 2015
Sobuza3:
90% is grouded. Only 3 pilots for your useless junk jets.
bring prove. We always give you proves.

Most of our helicopters were newly procured grin grin cheesy grin

Liars
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 12:09pm On Sep 08, 2015
Sobuza3:
Nigeria only dreams of becoming SA in the next 20 years
You are a dreamer?

Stadium without players.

Air Force without pilots.

Navy without sailors

Diverse economy without growth.

Industrial nation without jobs

You guys need prayers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:11pm On Sep 08, 2015
EVarn:
We will be generating almost twice your fiscal budget by 2018 due to new government policies.
I think that amount of money is quite sufficient to cater for our huge population and still have enough left to store.
The true question should be how much of that money would be in private Swiss Accounts to cater for Buhari and his corrupt FG.

The world knows how $400bn is still missing just go ask Sani Abacha's hoe. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:13pm On Sep 08, 2015
Chief of Nigerian Navy admit that his navy is irrelevant and incapable of executing its constitutional obligations citing more than 50% of their 75 vessels is broken down.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 12:14pm On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
What are you say? We have 12 F7, 12 L-39, 11alpha jets, more than 12 M339, 9 MI24/MI35 with 6 on order, we have 5 MI 17 and 6 on order super puma, gazelle helicopters many others and they are all in action super king, over 20 Augusta helicopters etc are you dreaming?
L-39 albestros= trainer/light ground attack
Alpha jet= advance trainer/light attack
F7 jet = Mig21 outdated useless

Now who are you going to fight with such nonsense
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:16pm On Sep 08, 2015
Nigeria has zero air force and that's a fact.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:19pm On Sep 08, 2015
iblawi:
You are a dreamer?

Stadium without players.

Air Force without pilots.

Navy without sailors

Diverse economy without growth.

Industrial nation without jobs

You guys need prayers.
Better to have fighter than pilots don't you think? You don't have fighters and neither do you have pilots. South Africa has many former fighter pilots who work for private airlines and who are more than ready to avail themselves should they be called forward.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 12:22pm On Sep 08, 2015
Sobuza3:
L-39 albestros= trainer/light ground attack
Alpha jet= advance trainer/light attack
F7 jet = Mig21 outdated useless

Now who are you going to fight with such nonsense
Commercial airline pilots now fly your hawk and Gripens even an attack helicopter will shoot them down. Cos they know nothing.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 12:24pm On Sep 08, 2015
FighterPilot:
Better to have fighter than pilots don't you think? You don't have fighters and neither do you have pilots. South Africa has many former fighter pilots who work for private airlines and who are more than ready to avail themselves should they be called forward.
Our pilots are counted in dozens cheesy grin grin grin grin
Not 3, 6 or 9 like South Africa cheesy wink wink cheesy cheesy cheesy
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