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The funniest part about argument is not giving concrete evidence to refute another argument. A site (of which is not igbo's) gave a comprehensive information about the academic strides of people around the world, but some people from their sleep tried as much as possible to rubbish the post just because they didn't see their tribe represented positively in it. This goes to show how hatred has blinded reason and will continue to blind reason.

It is not a new thing when you take a closer look at both tribes and see which tribe stands a better chance of making it academically or any other facet of life apart from propaganda sharing like their leaders are doing in recent times. The igbo youths have always been born into a society where you always have to use your brain 247 or else you will be left behind so fast that you won't know when you become nothing. That reminder has made igbos always try as much as possible to excel in their various pursuits in life.

No yoruba man will come here and give me balderdash about their educational system because I can authoritatively say what's happening in the yoruba land. It was only recently (like. 6years ago) that yorubas start considering polytechnics and college of education as alternatives for their university woes! It was so hard for them because, the little space they had in the south-west was been shared with them in their land and still had strong competition from the igbos. This goes to show how the igbos are giving you a run for your money in your own land.

The man that said Lagos doesn't have miracle centres is a first class liar and needs not say anything for a week because he has insulted men with intellectual capabilities. Lagos breeds different miracle centres of all kinds. It has eaten deep into the system that almost all the mushroom secondary schools promote their schools with it. You tell ghosts who don't know your region stories that can make pigs frown at you.

The yoruba people do not create a competitive environment for themselves, but when igbos come, they tend to sit up but its always too late because the igbo man has already prepared himself to shoot you before you touch your gun.

scholes0:
Funnily enough, in the entire article, I dont see the part that claims what is in the thread title.
Of all the surveyed students , 24%+ spoke Yoruba at home, while 4% spoke igbo.

A good statistician, will know -and tell you that with smaller sample sizes, there are greater effects of extreme scores on the Average, compared to a larger sample size. Little wonder then that Luganda speaking students (1%), and Krios (3%) from Liberia and Sierra Leone (lol)... have the Highest scores.

The Lugandas and the Kris oven fared better than the Chinese students ......... lol
Is anyone beginning to notice the trends here? OP stop making "smarty pant" conclusions about vague research to boost your ego ..... lol

Not entirely true. Somali, Lingala (3%) and Swahili(2%) with lesser numbers still scored lower than Yorubas with more numbers over the three year study period.

The effect of having a smaller sample size will always cancel itself out on the long run, when the averages are taken.

Hence over the three year period, Luganda average was 64% where as the Igbo was 85%.

You simply have no point.

I love you already! Ekesia i bulu uzo holu biko.

VickJames:
Take it or leave it, the igbo free-spirit and culture push them to be successful in all aspect of life has always been the driving tool to their success in life. They've always learnt to be forward thinkers and how to manipulate through obstacles to be successful. An average igboman doesn't want to be seen as a failure nor as a never-do-well. That's why he'll stay away from his family members to try and make it before returning home. Igbos are always driven by the passion to be on top and never be ruled over. That's a sound characteristic of a high-IQ'ed person. People with high intelligence do not like to be ruled over, they love their freedom and always show it everywhere.

Igbos have never thought of yoruba as competition. They have never thought for once a yoruba man will outsmart them in any endeavour. That's the truth. Igbos were born to think they're superior humans. That has always made them stand out anywhere they're.

When I was in primary school in the mid-90s, we had our classes from A - E, the guys that were topping the whole classes were igbos. This is not a false info. I can't start mentioning their names here, this is to show you how much the igbos compete with the yorubas in their own turf and their own educational system. In 2013, the best FUTA student was an igbo guy. So, what are we saying? There are many more records igbos still managed to drag with your yoruba brothers in the west. Your records are non-existent in the east. The igbos come to your place to drag university education with you. They top you in post-ume scores and you're forced to manage poly-technics and college of education(not that its bad).

Check Unilag for instance, we can boast of 30% igbo population. Come to unizik, you can't even dare apply for the school because 1st, you think you can't match up with the competition. Igbo race still leads you and will continue to lead you. Its a cultural thing and not something you just start. Your culture affords you relax and do nothing. But the igbo culture doesn't.

and yolooba people will be deceiving they self with,yebo pipu no de go school,when ever I hear them saying s/w is the most educated region in Nigeria,I will look at them! make una de deceive una self de leave for in- denial join am.any time whe una finish una go wake up

Looking at this thread, one would notice that 99.9% of the peeps who have been trying to disparage the result of this study all come from one particular ethnic group, the yoruba. Hence, this thread also helps to solidify the assertion that yorubas are the main ethnic group, who envy and hate passionately the exceptional abilities of the great Ndi Igbo.
I am sure most of them still can't get over the fact that the researcher also stated that when the different Nigerian ethnicities were merged as one, their result was considerably lower than that of the Chinese and a few other groups. But once the Nigerian group was separated into their different ethnicities, the result of the Igbo group became clearly ahead of the other groups involved in the study, and remarkably, even higher than that of the Chinese group.
When we tell these Yoruba peeps that we are not in competition with them, they will start fuming and prefer to continue living in self-denial.
The truth is that Ndi Igbo have no worthy competition in nigeria. Our competitors are found on the world stage. Simple!

I WONDER HOW YORUBA BIGOTS OF NAIRALAND WILL REACT WHEN WILL SMITH'S CONCUSSION MOVIE FINALLY COMES ON AIR ON 25TH DECEMBER, THIS YEAR.

DR. BENNETT OMALU, AN IGBO MAN, PLAYED BY WILL SMITH, IS THE HERO OF THE MOVIE... AND SOME YORUBA IDIOTS WILL COME HERE AND SPEW NONSENSE AGAINST IGBOS.

VickJames:
The funniest part about argument is not giving concrete evidence to refute another argument. A site (of which is not igbo's) gave a comprehensive information about the academic strides of people around the world, but some people from their sleep tried as much as possible to rubbish the post just because they didn't see their tribe represented positively in it. This goes to show how hatred has blinded reason and will continue to blind reason.

It is not a new thing when you take a closer look at both tribes and see which tribe stands a better chance of making it academically or any other facet of life apart from propaganda sharing like their leaders are doing in recent times. The igbo youths have always been born into a society where you always have to use your brain 247 or else you will be left behind so fast that you won't know when you become nothing. That reminder has made igbos always try as much as possible to excel in their various pursuits in life.

No yoruba man will come here and give me balderdash about their educational system because I can authoritatively say what's happening in the yoruba land. It was only recently (like. 6years ago) that yorubas start considering polytechnics and college of education as alternatives for their university woes! It was so hard for them because, the little space they had in the south-west was been shared with them in their land and still had strong competition from the igbos. This goes to show how the igbos are giving you a run for your money in your own land.

The man that said Lagos doesn't have miracle centres is a first class liar and needs not say anything for a week because he has insulted men with intellectual capabilities. Lagos breeds different miracle centres of all kinds. It has eaten deep into the system that almost all the mushroom secondary schools promote their schools with it. You tell ghosts who don't know your region stories that can make pigs frown at you.

The yoruba people do not create a competitive environment for themselves, but when igbos come, they tend to sit up but its always too late because the igbo man has already prepared himself to shoot you before you touch your gun.

classic.

Are you guys aware that there is Igbo, and there is Igbo b'igbo.
The word igbo means a people, as in; Igbo ebe e k' isi puta(which part of the World do come from)
Igbo b'igbo eken m unu.

stanech:
Op u don't need all these many stories. The fact that anambra has the highest cut off mark into unity school is enough reason

Abia - Male(130) Female(130)
Adamawa - Male(62) Female(62)
Akwa-Ibom - Male(123) Female(123)
Anambra - Male(139) Female(139)[
Bauchi - Male(35) Female(35)
Bayelsa - Male(72) Female(72)
Benue - Male(111) Female(111)
Borno - Male(45) Female(45)
Cross-Rivers - Male(97) Female(97)
Delta - Male(131) Female(131)
Ebonyi - Male(112) Female(112)
Edo - Male(127) Female(127)
Ekiti - Male(119) Female(119)
Enugu - Male(134) Female(134)
Gombe - Male(58) Female(58)
Imo - Male(138) Female(138)
Jigawa - Male(44) Female(44)
Kaduna - Male(91) Female (91)
Kano - Male(67) Female(67)
Kastina - Male(60) Female(60)
Kebbi - Male(9) Female(20)
Kogi - Male(119) Female(119)
Kwara - Male(123) Female(123)
Lagos - Male(133) Female(133)
Nassarawa - Male(58) Female(58)
Niger - Male(93) Female(93)
Ogun - Male(131) Female(131)
Ondo - Male(126) Female(126)
Osun - Male(127) Female(127)
Oyo - Male(127) Female(127)
Plateau - Male(97) Female(97)
Rivers - Male(118) Female(118)
Sokoto - Male(9) Female(13)
Taraba - Male(3) Female(11)
Yobe - Male(2) Female(27)
Zamfara - Male(4) Female(2)
FCT Abuja - Male(90) Female(90)


Anambra 139
Imo 138
Ebonyi 112. The odd one out
Abia 130
Enugu 138

kebbi and taraba though.. Nigeria is really a zone...

leofab:
kebbi and taraba though.. Nigeria is really a zone...

Lol..you missed zamfara and sokoto

What a great research, analysis and revelation of the educational exploits of the Great Igbo Nation!

manchy7531:
LOOK WHO IS GOING TO SCHOOL IN NIGERIA:
THE STATISTICS MAY SURPRISE YOU
Ikechukwu Agbor Tuesday, February 10, 2009
ikeagbor@yahoo.com
Dallas, Texas, USA


"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence". --John Adam's (1735 - 1826) argument as he defended soldiers in the Boston Massacre trials in December 1770.

In every conceivable hamlet in Nigeria and most of Africa are men and women from the South-East who toil to make ends meet, and because of their sheer number, the press in Nigeria has continued to assert, albeit wrongly that the South-Easterners have abandoned education.

Why is that so?

Come along with me as we meander through the maze, bare the facts and bust the myth of who is in school and who is not.


We will begin by consulting JAMB, culling figures from UME admissions in the years 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007, and then crunching the numbers and provide the statistics.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/129671_chart1_jpg9400f3fc1292afce7e9255bbcbb7afcd

Fig.1. Total Admissions for the six year period for the six geo-political zones


It is noteworthy that the South-West lags behind among the three zones that comprise the South, and so for the purposes of this presentation, I will limit the study to the three Southern zones as the Northern zones have historically lagged behind their Southern counterparts.

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Fig.2. Admissions for South-East, South-West and South-South


From the above, it can thus be established that the South-East has more of her young men and women admitted to Nigerian universities than either the South-West or the South-South; "quota" system not withstanding. The South-South has been next to the South-East in the number of university admissions in all the years except 2006 and 2007 when South-West made a nominal gain. Within the South-South, it is interesting to note that Delta State is tops, and no attempt will be made on the part of the author to divvy up the South-South for the purposes of this presentation in spite of the fact that Delta and Rivers States have more of their young men and women admitted than Kwara and Kogi put together, so no numbers will be appropriated from the South-South into South-East, in as much as in the same token no remnants of Kogi and Kwara States will be consigned into the South-West.


The South-East and the South-West have far more homogeneity within the population that occupies its geographic space due to language. It is also noteworthy that there is a presence of Ijaw in the South-West but still my subsequent comparison will be solely confined to only the South-West and the South-East.

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Fig.3. Male / Female admissions in the South-East


It can be seen from the above that it was only in 2004 that the number of women surpassed the men by a miniscule number. Also note the spikes in 2003 and 2004; I am not sure whether to attribute that to the number of universities under the wing of JAMB or to some other factors. The spike is also apparent when South-East is compared to both South-West and South-South (See Fig.4). It is also noteworthy that the South-East women have continued to keep pace with their male counterparts. To make a blanket statement that the South-East has abandoned education is totally false; that there are a number of men who are gainfully employed either as artisans or traders only goes to show that the South-East population has always been underestimated.

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Fig.4. South-East and South-West total admissions


It is discernible that in the years from 2002 until 2007, the South-East has continued to lead the South-West in university admissions. The South-East bested the South-West in terms of number of admissions in both genders also. As to the spikes in 2003 and 2004, my best bet would be that in the subsequent years, JAMB divested from the number of universities under its wing. (See also Fig.3.)
www.nairaland.com/attachments/129675_chart5_jpgb7a32d8a5caa1bf12fa5e031ed6de980

Fig.5. South-East and South-West admissions for males


We can glean from the above chart that there are more Southeast males in the universities than their counterparts in the Southwest. In 2005 ad 2006 the numbers essentially remained the same for each zone.

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Fig.6. South-East and South-West female admissions


From the above, there are more South-East females in the universities than their SW female counterparts.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/129677_chart7_jpg6e9fcdcc9d9025b4e13b9143fd29248c
Fig.7. South-East Female and South-West Male admissions for six years



From the above, there are more S females in the universities than SW males.
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Fig.8. South-East Male and South-West female admissions for six years



From the above there are more SE males in the universities than SW females

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Fig.9. South-East and South-West male and female admissions for six years





From the above, among all genders, SE males lead the SE females barely, who in turn lead the SW males. The SW females are fewer in number of admissions than all others.

We can deduct from the above bar charts as follows:


From fig.1: among the six geo-political zones for six years admissions from 2002 through 2007, the SE leads followed by SS, then SW, NC, NW while NE bottomed out.

Fig.2: The SE leads the three zones in the south

Fig.3: Total male admissions in the SE is more than the female admissions for the six year period

Fig.4: SE leads SW in total admissions for six years in a row

Fig.5: SE males lead their SW counterparts in admissions for six years in row

Fig.6: SE females lead their SW counterparts in admissions for six years in a row

Fig.7: SE females lead SW males in admissions for six years in a row

Fig.8: SE males lead SW females in admissions for six years in a row

Fig.9: In all genders, SE males are tops, followed by SE females, then SW males, while S females bottomed out

In conclusion, if we add up the number of young men and women who are admitted into Nigeria universities together with the South-East men and women who are in the remotest conceivable hamlets of every state in Nigeria, and the rest in the West African sub-region and other parts of Africa, who are wrongly accused of having abandoned higher education while there South-East peers hold their own, it makes me to still demand to know how many we really are; the Nigerian state continues to spew out spurious population censuses.

Finally, if the South-East has more people in the universities when there is no reason other than that they have more candidates applying for same, it would be right and appropriately so to postulate that it in terms of population, there are more people in the South-East than either in the South-West or the South-South.

So the next time they tell you that South-East males have abandoned school, point the statistics in their face. And more poignantly ask them: O bu anyi anaghi eme ofuma; anyi oga egburu unu onwe anyi? (Aren't we doing well already; do we commit suicide for you all?)

But wait, in the next segment when the 2006 population census will be analyzed, the reader will be in for more shocker; the 2006 population census has Oyo State as the most populated State in the South-West outside Lagos, with a population of 5,591,581, while the most populated state in the South-East is Anambra State with a total population of 4,182,032. However in 2007 JAMB admissions, Anambra State recorded a total of 8,725 in admissions while Oyo State had 3,788….I am crunching the numbers.




Ikechukwu Agbor is the author of the novel "Kisses from America"

Due to space limitation all the figures could not be uploaded; however the rest of the figures can be studied at the link below

http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2009/feb/101.html

God bless NDI IGBO.

nwanlecha:
Looking at this thread, one would notice that 99.9% of the peeps who have been trying to disparage the result of this study all come from one particular ethnic group, the yoruba. Hence, this thread also helps to solidify the assertion that yorubas are the main ethnic group, who envy and hate passionately the exceptional abilities of the great Ndi Igbo.
I am sure most of them still can't get over the fact that the researcher also stated that when the different Nigerian ethnicities were merged as one, their result was considerably lower than that of the Chinese and a few other groups. But once the Nigerian group was separated into their different ethnicities, the result of the Igbo group became clearly ahead of the other groups involved in the study, and remarkably, even higher than that of the Chinese group.
When we tell these Yoruba peeps that we are not in competition with them, they will start fuming and prefer to continue living in self-denial.
The truth is that Ndi Igbo have no worthy competition in nigeria. Our competitors are found on the world stage. Simple!

Asadike

omonnakoda:
https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=JVUAVp3cGJLu8webyJLACA#q=anambra++state++miracle++exam++centre

. The same Anambra that dominates you in Lagos unity school. Shame on yeribastards. Mr kelvin Owoola. Shame on you

Shymm3x:
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Hahahahahahaha!!

Melzabull has changed clothes.

Even Raekwon the Chef showed better acting skills in the gif below, than you're doing:

https://cdn.watchloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/RaekwonCoalitiondeath.gif


https://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/1732287/laughing-at-you-o.gif

Fvcking sket, just get ya melzabull handle off my nuts - it's getting itchy. Dammit.

Bye felicia and don't quote me back.

. Stop masturbating with her moniker mr londoner. Btw how is ur sick brother?

Shymm3x:
Lmao @ all Igbotic muppets coming over to cosign mezlabull the adorable29 with fvcked elephantiasis of the face and her incoherent rant. I'll lash the biitch and every single one of you in the ring together combined. The pummeling would be so bad that even Igbo ancestors would rise from the dead and beg me to stop.

Better let me be tonight, before I go Muay Thai on ya arses.

Just get ya hairy sister with hairy nip.ples to stop stalking me under her alternate handle. My mutombo is a bigot right now.

. Get ur sorry shameless self out of the way you bastard. She just gave you 17slaps 21akpus. Bastard!

ARIZONA123:
. The same Anambra that dominates you in Lagos unity school. Shame on yeribastards. Mr kelvin Owoola. Shame on you

Who sends their children to unity schools these days? Shame on your mother

Shymm3x:
You just keep going around in circles, perambulating like the London Eye.

Summary:

- You accepted that Igbo women are smarter than Igbo men.

- You also accepted that Yorubas are supreme at regurgitating theories, which is basically what being book-smart/academic-excellence is about (you wanted to do this in jest but defeated ya own point loool).

Let's end it there - all black folks are the same in my eye, but that doesn't mean I won't load my ammo and shot some missiles for comic relief.

I'm out...on to a next thread to reply a post.

Shalom!

The above crap is typical example that Yari.ba are full of it. These jackasses are shameless at hyperbolism. Only a page in "This Fall Apart" proffers all existentialistic theories Yari.ba cannot be able to imagine even when given a century to do so.

Please can you educate us on the religious part and if you listened to him on the atonement sermon, tell us where he is wrong.

nwanlecha:
Much love to you dear, but I am a lady not a brother. Nnamdi Kanu is certainly doing a great job and I support him fully. The only thing I would love for him to tone down on is the issue of religion. Religion needs to be left out of the Biafran struggle.

SonOfEl:
this topic has opened before, Yoruba bigots evaded it. Igbos keeps vindicating black intelligence.

pleaseeee don't dare rubbish BLACK INTELLIGENCE. So BLACK INTELLIGENCE includes the 4 Igbo men that were caught with $500K stuffed in their anus en route to Brazil, just last week?. BLACK INTELLIGENCE includes arresting 25 Igbos with drugs in their bellies out of an aircraft with a passenger list of 75 passengers??Does it also include young Igbos girls PURPOSELY getting pregnant so they can sell their OWN Babies for JUST 50K? ??ABEG ABEG ABEG!!!!!

azzima:
pleaseeee don't dare rubbish BLACK INTELLIGENCE. So BLACK INTELLIGENCE includes the 4 Igbo men that were caught with $500K stuffed in their anus en route to Brazil, just last week?. BLACK INTELLIGENCE includes arresting 25 Igbos with drugs in their bellies out of an aircraft with a passenger list of 75 passengers??Does it also include young Igbos girls PURPOSELY getting pregnant so they can sell their OWN Babies for JUST 50K? ??ABEG ABEG ABEG!!!!!

dude, having a high IQ has absolutely nothing to do with morality. IGBOS have the good, bad, and ugly, as humans, we are unapologetic about that.

and pls stick to the issue. IGBOS were the major highlights being used to debunk white scientific racism. since OLAUDAH EQUIANO, we have been speaking and defending the black race.

mind you chisala is not Igbo, let alone west African, so try to douse your envy.

donacsa:
Please can you educate us on the religious part and if you listened to him on the atonement sermon, tell us where he is wrong.

Ife m na-acho i kowa bu na o diro mma ka o na-kotocha uka di iche iche dika o si eme kitaa. Ya hapu ihe banyere religion, maka na onye obula nwere ikike I jee uka obula masiri ya, ma i bu onye otu Kristi, ma i bu onye muslim. Ife di mkpa bu ka o jisi ike na-ezisa ozi maka Biafra. O nya ka radio anyi jili buru radio Biafra, na o buro radio religion. Okwu agwu!

I dont think you listened to the message he gave. However, he is saying Christianity is being followed the right way. One question he asks is If the British brought Christianity but always takes side with the muslims to kill Christians, what does it mean?

nwanlecha:
Ife m na-acho i kowa bu na o diro mma ka o na-kotocha uka di iche iche dika o si eme kitaa. Ya hapu ihe banyere religion, maka na onye obula nwere ikike I jee uka obula masiri ya, ma i bu onye otu Kristi, ma i bu onye muslim. Ife di mkpa bu ka o jisi ike na-ezisa ozi maka Biafra. O nya ka radio anyi jili buru radio Biafra, na o buro radio religion. Okwu agwu!

donacsa:
I dont think you listened to the message he gave. However, he is saying Christianity is being followed the right way. One question he asks is If the British brought Christianity but always takes side with the muslims to kill Christians, what does it mean?

I responded to you in Igbo but you obviously prefer to make our discussion open to outsiders. So, let me say this: Nnamdi has no business talking about religion in this struggle. Radio Biafra was established to talk about Biafra and not about religion. I don't care what nnamdi thinks about Christianity or Muslim religion. I have my beliefs when it comes to that. But one thing we all can agree on is that we need Biafra to be restored. Biafra should be a country where everyone is free to follow whatever religion they deem fit, be you Christian, muslim, Buddhist, etc. No one has any right to dictate to another what path to follow to God. Simple!

This thread really hurt the Yologbas sooo bad, didn't it? Chai. This is a total smackdown!!!

SonOfEl:
this topic has been opened before, Yoruba bigots evaded it. Igbos keeps vindicating black intelligence.

exactly bro..

We keep vindicating the black race.

basisop:
Abeg, I no see Hausa for the report. Are they not part of Nigeria again?

People that base intelligent because of race are really dumb. People that feels ibo are the most intelligent should also accept that the white man will always be on top of them and that women are more intelligent than men. As for me I see intelligent as an individual thing and not a group. It quite shallow that we have some people thinkng like this.u should all try to leave the comfort of Nigeria and see the world and u will find out as long as ur are black u are all d same here.

Shymm3x:
Lmao @ all Igbotic muppets coming over to cosign mezlabull the adorable29 with fvcked elephantiasis of the face and her incoherent rant. I'll lash the biitch and every single one of you in the ring together combined. The pummeling would be so bad that even Igbo ancestors would rise from the dead and beg me to stop.

Better let me be tonight, before I go Muay Thai on ya arses.

Just get ya hairy sister with hairy nip.ples to stop stalking me under her alternate handle. My mutombo is a bigot right now.

chai....see a deranged illiterate....

This is still sad. Fighting over which is the most intelligent tribe in Nigeria when you guys still don't know what to do with all that intelligence. Just sad!

ProudSAfrican:
This is still sad. Fighting over which is the most intelligent tribe in Nigeria when you guys still don't know what to do with all that intelligence. Just sad!

you might as well call it Nigeria's curse. however, am glad blacks are debunking that white IQ supremacy myth.