Its not a matter of being emotional about anything. These species can be tamed and there's no rocket science about it. Like someone said zimbabweans are doing the business in Kwara and we've not heard of anyone dying there. Another thing we need to put into consideration is that, its not a must we buy the breed of fulani herdsmen. We can buy other breeds.

The funny thing is some of the breeds Sir Chino11 put up in the last page are exactly the kind you'll find in the small cattle ranch/stable in my hometown. So what's the big deal?

VickJames:
Its not a matter of being emotional about anything. These species can be tamed and there's no rocket science about it. Like someone said zimbabweans are doing the business in Kwara and we've not heard of anyone dying there. Another thing we need to put into consideration is that, its not a must we buy the breed of fulani herdsmen. We can buy other breeds.

victord1st:





If I run a multi-billion naira business,prudence demands that I secure it by any possible means.Could even employ the services of proven security outfits to do the job.This is a no-brainer.

we are saying the same thing. business is about making profits. how much will it cost to keep armed security round the clock? how much will you see your produce afterwards? if at the end, your cows is more expensive than fulani's own, it defeats the entire purpose.

please @ i am not chino. except if you are new here. chinos head looks oblong while mine is that of a fine boy.

TheSuperNerd:
The funny thing is some of the breeds Sir Chino11 put up in the last page are exactly the kind you'll find in the small cattle ranch/stable in my hometown. So what's the big deal?

What I know in my whole life of rearing dogs, chicks and goats is that, they respect those people that feed them a lot. They don't try to harm them. That's the simple psychology of these animals.

We're not saying they should nomadic cows from fulani men, they can buy ranch cows from another country. At least there won't be wondering spirit in them.

I mean it when I say that you guys are being emotional.

Picture .1 is Zimbabwean specie of cow

Picture .2 is Tropical/Fulani specie of cow

Picture .3 is another Tropical specie of cow

Now when you look at the Zimbabwean cow, it is more or less like herd of 'goats' when you compare to the Tropical specie which is ofcourse the Nigerian breed. You cannot tame and rear the hefty Tropical beastly cows with long horns that looks scary if you do not have other skills outside the conventional training of cow farming. That is why it is the exclusive area for the Fulanis because of the skill they have that almost run in the family line.

VickJames:
Its not a matter of being emotional about anything. These species can be tamed and there's no rocket science about it. Like someone said zimbabweans are doing the business in Kwara and we've not heard of anyone dying there. Another thing we need to put into consideration is that, its not a must we buy the breed of fulani herdsmen. We can buy other breeds.

VickJames:
Its not a matter of being emotional about anything. These species can be tamed and there's no rocket science about it. Like someone said zimbabweans are doing the business in Kwara and we've not heard of anyone dying there. Another thing we need to put into consideration is that, its not a must we buy the breed of fulani herdsmen. We can buy other breeds.

you say "zimbabweans" as if zimbabwe is a one tribe country. is it all the tribes in zimbabwe that rears cattle? are "nigerians not also rearing cattle?
maybe it is true what the yoruba people say about us. we are too emotional beyond reason.

i know for certain that if a horned mad cow is galloping towards me, that i will even climb the nearest tree until further further notice.

chino11:
I mean it when I say that you guys are being emotional.

Picture .1 is Zimbabwean specie of cow

Picture .2 is Tropical/Fulani specie of cow

Picture .3 is another Tropical specie of cow

Now when you look at the Zimbabwean cow, it is more or less like herd of 'goats' when you compare to the Tropical specie which is ofcourse the Nigerian breed. You cannot tame and rear the hefty Tropical beastly cows with long horns and scary if you do not have other skills outside the conventional training of cow farming. That is why it is the exclusive area for the Fulanis because of the skill they have that almost run in the family line.

But can we buy and rear zimbabwean kind of cows?

Malawian:

you say "zimbabweans" as if zimbabwe is a one tribe country. is it all the tribes in zimbabwe that rears cattle? are "nigerians not also rearing cattle?
maybe it is true what the yoruba people say about us. we are too emotional beyond reason.

i know for certain that if a horned mad cow is galloping towards me, that i will even climb the nearest tree until further further notice.

Must we rear fulani kind of cows?

VickJames:


Must we rear fulani kind of cows?

must we do everything? this is the kind of thing that brings angst towards our people.

Good! If we can get those Southern African specie or even European species that are usually horn-less then we are good to go but to handle the tropical cows it is a 'suicide'. The Fulanis applies more than just a conventional training in handling it because their own specie are more or less wild beasts. That is why you could find a 5yrs old boy guiding a large herd of cattle single-handedly.

VickJames:


But can we buy and rear zimbabwean kind of cows?

VickJames:


What I know in my whole life of rearing dogs, chicks and goats is that, they respect those people that feed them a lot. They don't try to harm them. That's the simple psychology of these animals.

We're not saying they should nomadic cows from fulani men, they can buy ranch cows from another country. At least there won't be wondering spirit in them.

What we down South called Fulani cow are mostly imported from Kenya,Boswana, Mali,New Zealand, Niger,South Africa etc by govt of Northern States & Some of their rich Farm owners to be distributed at a very cheap price to Cattle Farmers in the North.Last year for instance, Sokoto State govt order thousands of Cow for Sokoto Farmers!.Please my people those Fulani Cattle rearers we see in the South are not the Owners, but are employed by Some big Alhajis, Some serving & retired Military/ Police officers from the North to care for them!.I could remember in the past somebody I know who normally buy calves from them very cheap because the Owners don't know about!.They have middlemen who are Fulanis in this business!

We must follow the cattle rearing of smaller (landwise) nations.

[img]http://pigtrop.cirad.fr/var/ez_pigtrop/storage/images/media/images/figures_tables/glipha_livestockunits2003/17776-1-eng-GB/glipha_livestockunits2003_reference.gif[/img]

Nigeria currently has just as many cows as smaller nations in the europe of equal land mass (appr.) to Igboland


Key things to learn from this brilliant dutch farm.

1. Making animals walk their whole lives (Nomadism), causes animals to be lean and wirey as opposed to fat and plentiful like western cows. In the west cows are discouraged from walking about and their area is usually limited to assure they get as fat as possible. Cows that are fatter are then bred with fat bulls or bulls that gain weight quickly.

this led to western cows looking like this

and african/northern cows looking like this


lean and materially worthless. cows should not be smaller than human beings.

most american ranchers look like this

and most Fulani nomads are as deprave and boney as their cows


the men are examples of intelligence levels and lifestyle. One sit still and uses limited range land to store cattle, then brings greenery to them, which another one subjects himself and cows to a walk across the whole of west african making them leaner, more susceptible to disease and theft, and hungrier at the same time.


So fix location ranching is key. A large inexpensive canopy with lock in gates around the cow's neck, then pouring an abundance of foliage in front of their faces so that they eat and eat and eat. track their breeding times and breed them regularly.

A single cow is about the same cost as a mid-price vehicle in Nigeria. One man can by 5 cows and 1 bull, and begin from there. Within a decade he will have enough cattle to build the home of his dreams. Cow milk can produce butter, cheese, milk, etc. Cow manure can produce fertilizer, antibiotics. Their skin can be used for furniture, shoes, tools, belts for vehicles etc.

You don't have to wait for 'the government' to get involved. use a fence and armed security to keep wranglers out. Place track devices in their hooves, horns, skin and necks. Label them so that everyone knows who's is who's and we'll never buy a single drop of cattle from the north again.

Ofodirinwa:
We must follow the cattle rearing of smaller (landwise) nations.

[img]http://pigtrop.cirad.fr/var/ez_pigtrop/storage/images/media/images/figures_tables/glipha_livestockunits2003/17776-1-eng-GB/glipha_livestockunits2003_reference.gif[/img]

Nigeria currently has just as many cows as smaller nations in the europe of equal land mass (appr.) to Igboland


Key things to learn from this brilliant dutch farm.

1. Making animals walk their whole lives (Nomadism), causes animals to be lean and wirey as opposed to fat and plentiful like western cows. In the west cows are discouraged from walking about and their area is usually limited to assure they get as fat as possible. Cows that are fatter are then bred with fat bulls or bulls that gain weight quickly.

this led to western cows looking like this

and african/northern cows looking like this


lean and materially worthless. cows should not be smaller than human beings.

most american ranchers look like this

and most Fulani nomads are as deprave and boney as their cows


the men are examples of intelligence levels and lifestyle. One sit still and uses limited range land to store cattle, then brings greenery to them, which another one subjects himself and cows to a walk across the whole of west african making them leaner, more susceptible to disease and theft, and hungrier at the same time.


So fix location ranching is key. A large inexpensive canopy with lock in gates around the cow's neck, then pouring an abundance of foliage in front of their faces so that they eat and eat and eat. track their breeding times and breed them regularly.

A single cow is about the same cost as a mid-price vehicle in Nigeria. One man can by 5 cows and 1 bull, and begin from there. Within a decade he will have enough cattle to build the home of his dreams. Cow milk can produce butter, cheese, milk, etc. Cow manure can produce fertilizer, antibiotics. Their skin can be used for furniture, shoes, tools, belts for vehicles etc.

You don't have to wait for 'the government' to get involved. use a fence and armed security to keep wranglers out. Place track devices in their hooves, horns, skin and necks. Label them so that everyone knows who's is who's and we'll never buy a single drop of cattle from the north again.

Chukwu gozie gi!.

chino11:
Good! If we can get those Southern African specie or even European species that are usually horn-less then we are good to go but to handle the tropical cows it is a 'suicide'. The Fulanis applies more than just a conventional training in handling it because their own specie are more or less wild beasts. That is why you could find a 5yrs old boy guiding a large herd of cattle single-handedly.

I even know that those european ones give better milk than the one found in the tropics. I am not even talking about the meat alone, what about the milk we can get from it.

If we can do the one you just highlighted then to me, that's good business.

No need rearing what will end up stabbing u with its horns.

Malawian:

must we do everything? this is the kind of thing that brings angst towards our people.

you need to upgrade your thinking. it's too low

Anyone that believe the Fulani are skilled at raising cattle is deceive, a fool and has low exposure to the rest of the human race.
This is where the world is at, as an the Igbo people are well exposed through trade, travel education and business, we shouldn't be limiting ourselves to the nigerian or african understanding of cattle rearing



This is cattle rearing in 2015.
Fixed location usage. A cow only desires to eat. The fact that there are cows charging after Chino in Africa is a sign that the african is a fool. Violent cows are killed and eaten, peaceful ones are breed to that in 2 generations (30 years) there are no violent cows in your presence.


Bulls are raised separate from females and bull owners lease their bulls out to be breed with females in other farms. It's the bulls that are violent fyi.

If you think walking from Gambia to Nigeria is a way to raise cattle or a particular skill reserved to people that didn't go to school, you should question your own education. I was raising in rural america, I understand that what's practiced in Nigeria is the height of stupidity.

Is the fulani bloodline of skill absent in the whites that made this a reality? Are they Fulani as well? Igbos can out rear the fulani in a span of 30 years if we're serious..60 if we're not.
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This is how you farm. Forget the trash we're doing in Nigeria. Nothing in Nigeria is being done right so never follow Nigerian examples.
Do you see chicken farmers walking 2,500 miles with a AK 47 followed by chickens?
Igboland is perfect for raising cattle. We're among the greenest nations in the world. Leaves, trees and grass for kilometers uncountable.

investnow2013:
What we down South called Fulani cow are mostly imported from Kenya,Boswana, Mali,New Zealand, Niger,South Africa etc by govt of Northern States & Some of their rich Farm owners to be distributed at a very cheap price to Cattle Farmers in the North.Last year for instance, Sokoto State govt order thousands of Cow for Sokoto Farmers!.Please my people those Fulani Cattle rearers we see in the South are not the Owners, but are employed by Some big Alhajis, Some serving & retired Military/ Police officers from the North to care for them!.I could remember in the past somebody I know who normally buy calves from them very cheap because the Owners don't know about!.They have middlemen who are Fulanis in this business!

That's another thing but we can't trust these fulani herdsmen with our cows. I love what chino proposed about rearing hornless cows which will be better for our safety.

Ofodirinwa:
Anyone that believe the Fulani are skilled at raising cattle is deceive, a fool and has low exposure to the rest of the human race.
This is where the world is at, as an the Igbo people are well exposed through trade, travel education and business, we shouldn't be limiting ourselves to the nigerian or african understanding of cattle rearing



This is cattle rearing in 2015.
Fixed location usage. A cow only desires to eat. The fact that there are cows charging after Chino in Africa is a sign that the african is a fool. Violent cows are killed and eaten, peaceful ones are breed to that in 2 generations (30 years) there are no violent cows in your presence.


Bulls are raised separate from females and bull owners lease their bulls out to be breed with females in other farms. It's the bulls that are violent fyi.

If you think walking from Gambia to Nigeria is a way to raise cattle or a particular skill reserved to people that didn't go to school, you should question your own education. I was raising in rural america, I understand that what's practiced in Nigeria is the height of stupidity.

Is the fulani bloodline of skill absent in the whites that made this a reality? Are they Fulani as well? Igbos can out rear the fulani in a span of 30 years if we're serious..60 if we're not.
[img]http://ruralsociologywageningen.files./2010/06/img_2118.jpg[/img]

Investment thinking

You just blew my mind!

We must also know that Nigeria is not regarded as one of Cattle rearing or beef producing Countries of Africa not to talk about the World!.Tiny Countries like Boswana & Namibia have over 6 million cow between them!. Meat is very expensive in Nigeria when compared with other countries!

Ofodirinwa:
We must follow the cattle rearing of smaller (landwise) nations.

[img]http://pigtrop.cirad.fr/var/ez_pigtrop/storage/images/media/images/figures_tables/glipha_livestockunits2003/17776-1-eng-GB/glipha_livestockunits2003_reference.gif[/img]

Nigeria currently has just as many cows as smaller nations in the europe of equal land mass (appr.) to Igboland


Key things to learn from this brilliant dutch farm.

1. Making animals walk their whole lives (Nomadism), causes animals to be lean and wirey as opposed to fat and plentiful like western cows. In the west cows are discouraged from walking about and their area is usually limited to assure they get as fat as possible. Cows that are fatter are then bred with fat bulls or bulls that gain weight quickly.

this led to western cows looking like this

and african/northern cows looking like this


lean and materially worthless. cows should not be smaller than human beings.

most american ranchers look like this

and most Fulani nomads are as deprave and boney as their cows


the men are examples of intelligence levels and lifestyle. One sit still and uses limited range land to store cattle, then brings greenery to them, which another one subjects himself and cows to a walk across the whole of west african making them leaner, more susceptible to disease and theft, and hungrier at the same time.


So fix location ranching is key. A large inexpensive canopy with lock in gates around the cow's neck, then pouring an abundance of foliage in front of their faces so that they eat and eat and eat. track their breeding times and breed them regularly.

A single cow is about the same cost as a mid-price vehicle in Nigeria. One man can by 5 cows and 1 bull, and begin from there. Within a decade he will have enough cattle to build the home of his dreams. Cow milk can produce butter, cheese, milk, etc. Cow manure can produce fertilizer, antibiotics. Their skin can be used for furniture, shoes, tools, belts for vehicles etc.

You don't have to wait for 'the government' to get involved. use a fence and armed security to keep wranglers out. Place track devices in their hooves, horns, skin and necks. Label them so that everyone knows who's is who's and we'll never buy a single drop of cattle from the north again.

You've wrapped up this discussion. Nothing left to discuss. You've killed it.

investnow2013:
We must also know that Nigeria is not regarded as one of Cattle rearing or beef producing Countries of Africa not to talk about the World!.Tiny Countries like Boswana & Namibia have over 6 million cow between them!

exactly! With all of the death and 2,500km lifespan walking we're still under productive. The amount of cattle being reared in Nigeria can be topped by Anambra alone.

There are 2.3 million cows in the state of Nebraska (US)
The state nets $12.1 billion dollars a year from cattle (this doesn't mean selling or killing them, but selling milk and manuer as well)
http://www.nebeef.org/statenationalfacts.aspx

$12.1 billion impact to Nebraska's Economy
20,000 beef cow operations
1.88 million head of beef cows
The average herd size is 94 head
4,570 cattle feeding operations statewide
5.1 million cattle fed and marketed per year
On average there are 2.3 million head of cattle on feed
Only 770 feeding operations are larger than 1,000 head

This means that Nigeria's 770,000 Cows is beat by 770 single farms in the US state of Nebraska. The state today has more cattle than people!!


this is an example of how they do it.

This about it. 1 single cow that is raised in the western way will be 3x the size of an african cow raised by trekking to Israel. That means that what you buy and african cow for today (lets call it 500 USD) you can sell it to africans OR westerners for 2500 USD (ill let you do that math).

By selling a few cows you will be a millionaire. Every year we guy cows and kill it. Why not buy cows and keep them. Buy multiple calves for the price of 1 cow. pin them to a fix position and feed them from sun up till sun down so that they look like this
[img]http://web.altagenetics.com/Content/Thumb.ashx?w=700&h=500&Img=/Uploads/Articles/1521.jpg[/img]

don't let Chino confuse you from a chance to make millions by buying calves. You can start by tying them around trees and feeding them non stop, releasing them for 1 hr of exercise a day then tying them back. As you grow you built a factory farm and become a millionaire form milk, butter, hides, fertilizer, meat and livestock all for tying calves to trees

the population in Nebraska is 1.88 million, and 770 of them produce more money from agriculture than 12 million fulanis.
the example in africa isn't an example, it's a circumstance of ignorance.

investnow2013:
We must also know that Nigeria is not regarded as one of Cattle rearing or beef producing Countries of Africa not to talk about the World!.Tiny Countries like Boswana & Namibia have over 6 million cow between them!. Meat is very expensive in Nigeria when compared with other countries!

1kg of beef is around #1200 in most western countries,compare that to what is obtainable here.The truth is that using technology makes it easier and cheaper to produce anything.

Ofodirinwa:


exactly! With all of the death and 2,500km lifespan walking we're still under productive. The amount of cattle being reared in Nigeria can be topped by Anambra alone.

There are 2.3 million cows in the state of Nebraska (US)
The state nets $12.1 billion dollars a year from cattle (this doesn't mean selling or killing them, but selling milk and manuer as well)
http://www.nebeef.org/statenationalfacts.aspx



This means that Nigeria's 770,000 Cows is beat by 770 single farms in the US state of Nebraska. The state today has more cattle than people!!


this is an example of how they do it.

This about it. 1 single cow that is raised in the western way will be 3x the size of an african cow raised by trekking to Israel. That means that what you buy and african cow for today (lets call it 500 USD) you can sell it to africans OR westerners for 2500 USD (ill let you do that math).

By selling a few cows you will be a millionaire. Every year we guy cows and kill it. Why not buy cows and keep them. Buy multiple calves for the price of 1 cow. pin them to a fix position and feed them from sun up till sun down so that they look like this
[img]http://web.altagenetics.com/Content/Thumb.ashx?w=700&h=500&Img=/Uploads/Articles/1521.jpg[/img]

don't let Chino confuse you from a chance to make millions by buying calves. You can start by tying them around trees and feeding them non stop, releasing them for 1 hr of exercise a day then tying them back. As you grow you built a factory farm and become a millionaire form milk, butter, hides, fertilizer, meat and livestock all for tying calves to trees

You just opened my eyes like someone who ate the forbidden the fruit.

If you think cattle is expensive in Nigeria go to Cameroon where pork has become a staple because beef is a luxury. We can make millions selling eastern commercial beef to Cameroon.

A single Nigerian cow is 274 kilos of meat on average. This is a standard one today that's weak and sickly from walking from kingdom come

even at the western cost, a single cow of this size equals N328,800. This is after you've collected over double this in manure and milk.

If you currently sell cars or even want to consider this. You sell a car once for the price of a cow, you have to go back and buy another one and sell that other one at marginal profit.
Cows cost as much as cars and reproduce themselves! They have extracts like milk and fertilizer that cars don't have. All you have to do is keep feeding a cow bushes and shrubs


Look at this statistic
After 2 years of age a cow can have a calf every year until they get to be 15-20 years.

1 cow can produce 15 cows, which produces 15 cows. From 1 cow, in 30 years you'll have 225.
By the time you retire in 60 years you'll have 3,375 is you sell all of them for 1,500 USD you'll have 5,062,500 USD to your name if your children aren't interested in farming. Billions of Naira.

if, like nebraska, only 770 people take to raising cows in Anambra alone, we'll have 173,250 cows in 1 state. If Imo, Enugu, Anambra, Abia, Rivers Ebonyi and Delta all have 770 people start with 1 cow, in 15 years we'll have 1,212,750 cows. Meaning Igbos, in 15 years, will have more cattle (and bigger cattle), than the whole of Nigeria has today.


Knowing this you will realize the Fulani how have only produced 770,000 in over 2000 years are cattle trekking are actually failures.

I can see some intruders from the west keenly looking at what we're discussing.

*modified*

Why don't you tell this to the great Leonardo Da Vinci who was jack of all trades and "master of all"?

*smiles*

Malawian:

must we do everything? this is the kind of thing that brings angst towards our people.

Well said Sir, Thanks so much. The last paragraph describes somewhat how a certain Igbo individual in my Village/hometown in Anambra does his thing.

Well done! *smiles*

Ofodirinwa:


exactly! With all of the death and 2,500km lifespan walking we're still under productive. The amount of cattle being reared in Nigeria can be topped by Anambra alone.

There are 2.3 million cows in the state of Nebraska (US)
The state nets $12.1 billion dollars a year from cattle (this doesn't mean selling or killing them, but selling milk and manuer as well)
http://www.nebeef.org/statenationalfacts.aspx



This means that Nigeria's 770,000 Cows is beat by 770 single farms in the US state of Nebraska. The state today has more cattle than people!!


this is an example of how they do it.

This about it. 1 single cow that is raised in the western way will be 3x the size of an african cow raised by trekking to Israel. That means that what you buy and african cow for today (lets call it 500 USD) you can sell it to africans OR westerners for 2500 USD (ill let you do that math).

By selling a few cows you will be a millionaire. Every year we guy cows and kill it. Why not buy cows and keep them. Buy multiple calves for the price of 1 cow. pin them to a fix position and feed them from sun up till sun down so that they look like this
[img]http://web.altagenetics.com/Content/Thumb.ashx?w=700&h=500&Img=/Uploads/Articles/1521.jpg[/img]

don't let Chino confuse you from a chance to make millions by buying calves. You can start by tying them around trees and feeding them non stop, releasing them for 1 hr of exercise a day then tying them back. As you grow you built a factory farm and become a millionaire form milk, butter, hides, fertilizer, meat and livestock all for tying calves to trees

God bless you Sir Mr Ofodirinwa and the rest contributors. I've learnt more about cattle farming.

God bless us all.

victord1st:





So after sacking Igbos from doing their legit business in the north they will have the effrontery to dictate what we do in our own land.smh4u

I tire ooo.
so for how long can he keep living in fear.
even in his own backyard.
cowards die many times before their death

I hate pessimism with a passion. People in the western world are already thinking of how to relocate to the moon while some naive and backward black people are still talking of how a necessity such as producing your own food, is the sole reserve of some stone-age fulani herdsmen. SMH.
Anyway, let them come and tell me that when my family intends starting up a ranch in Enugu in the future.