OK NOW LETS SEE

The simple solution to this is for PMB to send a bill to the house to completely remove immunity from our political space entirely. Honestly no politician should have immunity in whatever form. This will also make it easier to send another bill stop Politicians from getting perpetual injunctions to evade prosecution for corruption.

The Senate may just be doing us a favor by providing a platform for the immunity question to be dealt with once and for all.

The Senate President by this may indicting himself the more before Nigerians that he was guilty after all with the charges he had already pleaded not guilty to. What a shame.

icedfire:
really these APC is scam... after blaming PDP for 16years, see what that are offering Nigerians... how many bills or laws that affect the ordinary Nigerians are they making? instead they are too busy satisfying themselves. change indeed..

saraki face ur battles

Do you just come to Nairaland for comment or what or do you just comment because people are doing soDoes Leo Orgor that raised the Motion an APC member

God ! These people are so blind and myopic , we are still debating why the present once haven't been removed or at least reduced and then this one comes with a dumb one again ?

Ioannes:


thank you for the enlightenment. does that also apply to bills seeking to amend a part of the constitution, because I believe granting such immunity will be an amendment of the constitution. I think.

Leave that badly educated ancient of days, he doesn't know it's an "Ammendment of the constitution"

modath:
The president will never assent to that bill so they can keep "planning"..

It will give them something to occupy the LITTLE time they actually spend at plenary.


As for saraki, it brings to mind the Yoruba adage "won pe e lole, oun gbe omo eran jo"

Loosely translated, it means "you are alleged to be a thief & you still go dancing with a goat's kid.

Its actually a give and take thing.

akinzeb:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/nass-planning-immunity-laws-for-senate-president-speaker-cjn/

this guy doesn't know what he is saying, always on their self-interest

Ioannes:
I guarantee the President won't sign that.

indeed, the President, Sai Baba Buhari won't sign that thing. Legislooters, Ole buruku. The keep on maneuvering the law to favour them. Wait let me report Leo Ogor to my king because he's from my state.

2n2k:
The proposal by the PDP minority leader is Dead On Arrival. This is a constitutional amendment. It requires two-third majority of the senate and the House of Representatives to scale the first hurdle. The second hurdle is that two-third majority of the members of house of assembly in at least 24 states must approve it. The third hurdle is that the President must assent to it. If you doubt presidential powers, revisit what president Jonathan did to the last constitutional amendments in May 2015

There is nothing like amandment!!! Immunity for the NASS leadership was not existing before so there is nothing to amend here!! The bill only needs to be passed by 2/3 of the NASS for it to become law.If the president witholds assent,his veto can be overridden by 2/3 majority of the NASS

Constitutional amendment is a long process it will never be supported by the real Apc thereby making it null and void ,we want immunity removed from the Nigerian Constitution,jungle justice need to reach govt house

freedom96:
the president needs to sign it before it gets passed?

I think so. I stand to be corrected.

chukwudi44:

Buhari doesn't need to sign it.If the president refuses assent,2/3 of the NASS can pass it into law

I know you go come and comment rubbish here, and Mind you, The President need to sign any law into power before it take affect. So no immunity for any of them.

chukwudi44:

They can override the president!! Try and get yourself acquainted with our constitution.

You just keep disgracing yourself here, So they will override the president and pass it into law on their own? really? Chukwudi44 please i don't want to laugh this morning.... also do you remember what they call Veto power? if they did anything the president have the power to order anybody arrest.

TonyeBarcanista:
That will be Dead on Arrival. They will require 2/3 majority votes from at least 2/3 of the 36 State Houses of Assembly. The whole thing won't fly! I can bet that the States will kill it! Useless criminals

Tonye! Tonye!! Tonye!!! for the first time you surprise me for saying the truth here.. But please call your boy Pa Chukwudi to order for disgracing himself.

FacelessPatriot:


the senate only needs 2/3rd majority to override the president's veto. as it is now, the pro-sarakis have the numbers

hahahah are you sure? bro stop this rubbish and face the truth, Alot of the senators won't even dare cos they will all have a case to answer and by the time they start planing that the EFCC will start picking them for fraud remember most of them are former states Governors.

TonyeBarcanista:

Sorry to burst your bubble, the thing is Dead on Arrival! This is a constitutional amendment that need the blessings of at least 2/3 of the 36 State Houses of Assembly as well as the NASS! It won't fly

Tell them oooo, They don't know chun-ching and we gonna tell them chun-ching

Sounds fair to me.

Either it's spread to all, or removed form all.

bashydemy:
hahahah are you sure? bro stop this rubbish and face the truth, Alot of the senators won't even dare cos they will all have a case to answer and by the time they start planing that the EFCC will start picking them for fraud remember most of them are former states Governors.

Lolz you people said similar things before 83 senators passed a vote of confidence on the SP!! You think you are dealing with cowards!!

chukwudi44:
I intend to make this as simple as possible, S.58 of the 1999 Constitution provides for the mode of exercising legislative power in general as follows:

(1) The power of the National Assembly to make laws shall be exercised by bills passed by both the Senate and the House of Representatives and, except as otherwise provided by subsection (5) of this section, assented to by the President.

(2) A bill may originate in either the Senate or the House of Representatives and shall not become law unless it has been passed and, except as otherwise provided by this section and section 59 of this Constitution, assented to in accordance with the provisions of this section.

(3) Where a bill has been passed by the House in which it originated, it shall be sent to the other House, and it shall be presented to the President for assent when it has been passed by that other House and agreement has been reached between the two Houses on any amendment made on it.

(4) Where a bill is presented to the President for assent, he shall within thirty days thereof signify that he assents or that he withholds assent.

(5) [b] Where the President withholds his assent and the bill is again passed by each House by two-thirds majority, the bill shall become law and the assent of the President shall not be required [\b]

Oga Chukwudi!!!!!!!! This is not a bill but constitutional amendment You need to read about that..

free2ryhme:
Please let us for once strive along the course of building our nation rather than building personalities. We are blessed with a selfless leader let the progressives in the legislature and the judiciary take the front stage fearlessly to sanitise our system. We need to live as humans rather than animals serving only the strong. The concept that someone is found to abuse his office and enriched himself with publics funds and that a caveat is been sought for him to jump justice will kill the system. In civilised societies where governance is given the seriousness it deserved the allegations wielded against Saraki by a constitutional institution like the CCT will first have him resigned as the president of the senate. Nigerians must stand in unison behind govt institutions fighting any corrupt person if we want to build an ellegantarian society. We have the opportunity with Buhari.

I have always seen this immunity clause as an abuse of office. Now it is obvious. Next thing, the other senators will seek for it or even include it in this amendment. Well, I think it is getting to the point where all Nigerians deserve immunity. Maybe they should so it do all and let chaos reign. All animals are definitely not equal.

chukwudi44:


Which yeye masses!! Count me out!!! Since the president has chosen to abuse his powers he needs to be taught some lessons!! Immunity for the NASS leadership is better than having a rubber stamp legislature which can easily be intimidated and made to dance to the whims and caprices of the executive!!

Fool which power did the President abuses?

TonyeBarcanista:

This amount to Constitutional amendment and not Ammendment of Act of the Parliament. You don't have to argue sir!

At least 2/3 State Houses of Assembly MUST sanction it

Tonye keep teaching chukwudi how thing run in the parliament

icedfire:
really these APC is scam... after blaming PDP for 16years, see what that are offering Nigerians... how many bills or laws that affect the ordinary Nigerians are they making? instead they are too busy satisfying themselves. change indeed..

saraki face ur battles

But d motion is raise by a PDP man. The minority leader.

chukwudi44:


Lolz you people said similar things before 83 senators passed a vote of confidence on the SP!! You think you are dealing with cowards!!

hahha pa chukwudi wake up, What will vote of confidence do? They say you have a case to answer and you talking about vote of confidence spare me all this abeg.... and Mind you we have a president who in incorruptible here and will do anything frustrate their effort... EFCC, ICPC and CCT will be busy as soon as they start that nonsense.

[quote author=free2ryhme post=38676344]saraki is a rogue and a thief and he can never succeed on this . I am sure nigerians will rise and put pressure on this rogue called NASS to drop this unreasonable agenda. This is this time we are praying that fraudster and corrupt people in govt should face the law for stealing and some idiot are thinking about how to protect the fraudster.


We are talking of removing immunity from the constitution, they are planning to widened the scope, very soon the traditional rulers will ask for immunity. I think this people have forgotten that they are elected to serve and not to lord. [/quote

It will be more than pressure I assure, every single senator will be attacked quote me!

icedfire:
really these APC is scam... after blaming PDP for 16years, see what that are offering Nigerians... how many bills or laws that affect the ordinary Nigerians are they making? instead they are too busy satisfying themselves. change indeed..

saraki face ur battles

So leo Ogar who made the suggestion is an APC member ryt. Dude always read and understand b4 u spill words. Dunce.

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If this is anything to go by, then I will agitate for immunity for all Nigerian Students, market women, workers, transporters, etc. #giveallnigeriansimmunity

icedfire:
really these APC is scam... after blaming PDP for 16years, see what that are offering Nigerians... how many bills or laws that affect the ordinary Nigerians are they making? instead they are too busy satisfying themselves. change indeed..

saraki face ur battles

Boy not everything u blame APC for; Hon. Leo Ogor is PDP.

IbokUtoroh:
















y exempt family heads and senior school prefects?

You failed to mention departmental, faculty and SUG presidents. e for sweet die...hahahahahaha

bashydemy:
Oga Chukwudi!!!!!!!! This is not a bill but constitutional amendment You need to read about that..

Ode a bill will have to be introduced to the floor of the senate proposing the amendment!!! Go and find out what a bill means