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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 8:00pm On Oct 07, 2015
idris4eva:
oliseh has already said it that he didn't want someone who is. Thinking of retirement to be the captain of the team and looking at it musa has never disobey any call from the nff so he his still d only one who can be d captain of the. Sentiment apart enyeama on his side must have an ego cos only him had quarrel with siasia,keshi and now oliseh......


Cos he know Nigerians worship him and think him to be a Messiah! I find it surprising, cos Oliseh was for him when the NFF wanted to ban him from the national team. To have changed all of a sudden shows some sort of arrogance on Enyeama's part.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by macho44(m): 8:01pm On Oct 07, 2015
A House Divided against itself cannot stand enemy incursions on its territory! without mincing words, I want to point out a few key issues here;
1, Respect begets respect: You shouldn't expect what u can't give, Oliseh was well known for being rude during his time in the national team. His well publicized spats were well heard of.
2, In Every Organization, exists an organizational structure. Brazil were humbled at the COPA america simply cuz Dunga handed the captaincy to an immature person.
3, Leaders are born, n not made: Enyeama seems to have a fiery side, concealed by the demure easy going looks we see on TV, just last year he tore to shreds a query given to him by the NFF. Ahmed Musa in all ramifications lacks the wherewithal to lead the eagles. He was particularly impressive when he led the team to a 1-1 draw against SouthAfrica early this year, in a game they were leading with minutes to go. Besides its not about who wears the band, its all about has the interest of this great nation, so I'm calling on all warring factions to sheath their swords so they won't be embarrassed by Awilo Longomba's Brothers. The fear of Yannick Bolasie is the beginning of panic, Efe Ambrose take note.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 8:02pm On Oct 07, 2015
shos:
how could he (Olishe) possibly choose another captain when d former is ard and u haven't told him dat his services is no more needed , is a slap on enyanma's face. ma opinion.
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Coaches can change captain any time. Dunga stripped Thiago Silva of his captaincy and he didn't challenge Dunga. Dunga didn't even inform him. He only got to camp and saw Neymar taking the captain band! In Oliseh's cash, he inform the team ans Enyeama was present. He should have given a boss à little respect in front of his team mates!
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by ferhyntorlah(f): 8:04pm On Oct 07, 2015
Austeenx:
Why bother? Nigerian football is at its nadir. I could really care less if Timaya is made national team captain.

Nadir - lowest point.
Lol @ Timaya being made team captain
Phahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by illiad: 8:04pm On Oct 07, 2015
horexy:


Wow...such a long comment! U must be a journalist angry
He wrote interestingly
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Darlington1976(m): 8:04pm On Oct 07, 2015
Hmmmmmm Oliseh is only looking for who to blame bc he is only a soccer analyst n not a grade A high calibre coach dat d supper eagles needed. He is a very stubborn fellow in his playing days dat it is his stupidity dat made him to retire wen he was not supposed to and dats why farewell match was never played for him just like Okocha n Kanu. For him to try small as super eagle coach he hv to study mgt sciences.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by ogawisdom(m): 8:12pm On Oct 07, 2015
blueto:
Oliseh is depicting obvious reasons why I should lose my respect and deference for Him.
You just got appointed as a manager to the team and the next move is to make a despicable and judicable impact to the team with a motive of forstering discordance amongst the players by retracting Enyeama's skipperhood. it is highly impertinent of you Oliseh to execute such vituperative act.

A player who has shown an absolute fidelity over the years to the team. He has proven to be resilient in the midst of tribulation. is this how you repay him?
This preposterous treatment is highly minacious of you Oliseh against someone that deserves a solace.

Even if Enyeama had a defect, I still opine that this action of retribution is not worth it.

With this act, Failure to qualify Nigeria for Afcon might yeild an ominous career results for you Oliseh.

All these words jst to make a comment grin guy u try
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by freecocoa(f): 8:16pm On Oct 07, 2015
vfactor:


I no go gree. But there's something I ve learnt why working in an organization: never challenge ur boss, even if you don't agree with him. You could talk to him privately, but not challenge him in front of ur colleague. He'll feel pressured to asert his authority, which in many cases would be the harsh way.

Oliseh should have shown more respect! But Enyeama should not have challenged his boss.
I agree, that it would have been best, had Enyeama been quiet, but Oliseh did what he did to walk all over Enyeama and i'm sure that's why Enyeama reacted. The fact that a person works for you doesn't make them your slaves to treat anyhow.

Oliseh is too pompous.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by striker9(m): 8:20pm On Oct 07, 2015
safarigirl:
First off, I want all Nigerians to forget about qualifying for AFCON 2017, it won't happen with this rift.

Oliseh was wrong on all counts in this rift. The last player you should ever attack is the pillar of the team, the head capo, ask Didier Deschamps what Anelka did to him. Why pick on Enyeama? Enyeama has loyalists in that team that can and will rebel against Oliseh until he loses that job and they prove he was never meant to be a coach. Oliseh is displaying an arrogance he hasn't earned considering he's won nothing of note as SE coach.

And making Musa captain? Who will take orders from Musa? Is it Mikel, Emenike or the ousted Enyeama? Does Musa look like a leader? Apart from his scrawny nature, how old is he? Someone who can't even speak up when he's wronged, how will he speak on behalf of his team mates?

The only place Oliseh's myopic decisions will take he and that team is down. I just want him out ASAP cuz he's apparently not The Chosen One to bring sanity to our football.
haha long time sis ....
Yep....I like Oliseh a lot and I respect his way of trying to command authority but respect is reciprocal. I remember when Capello dropped John Terry because of "private" issue he had with Bridge. It was during the tournament he made a statement saying Terry might not be the current captain but he s a true leader. John Terry had another racial issue with Ferdinand and the FA asked that Terry should be stripped of his captaincy but Capello kicked against it and said he will rather lose his job than strip him,he realized the role of a skipper is not just putting on the band but great responsibility.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by rapmike(m): 8:24pm On Oct 07, 2015
joseph1013:
[b]If the reports I am getting from camp is anything to go by, then Enyeama was clearly in the wrong.

Trouble started when they had a meeting after the Tuesday training session, which Enyeama did not participate in because he was busy talking with a member of the crew eventhough he knew that only Carl Ikeme is the goalkeeper available. So Oliseh called a meeting and said he'd like Ahmed Musa to captain the team for the Congo clash. That was where trouble erupted. Enyeama would have none of that. He stood up in front of everyone and was said to have rudely interrupted the coach's speech at this point, the Lille keeper insisting that he was the captain, not Musa. Enyeama was even fighting for Mikel, most senior player in the team to be captain for friendlies not Musa when it became obvious that he would not be playing.

This interruption apparently riled Oliseh, who ordered Enyeama to let him (Oliseh) address his players in peace. But Enyeama continued talking, raising his voice at the coach.

When Oliseh could not take it anymore, he ordered that Enyeama leave the venue of the meeting as he felt the keeper was undermining his (Oliseh's) authority.

When Enyeama refused to leave, Oliseh asked for the goalkeeper to be forcibly removed from the Verviers Hotel camp by security men.

Why should Enyeama not accept the verdict of the coach? Hell was not let loose when Neymar replaced Silva as captain of Brazil. There was no arguments with the coach when Mascherano was replaced by Messi as Captain. What right has Enyeama got to oppose his coach? Anywhere in the world once a new coach takes over he decides who will be his captain, that's standard, if he does not choose you, then you have to sempe. Super Eagles is not your father's property.

Ahmed Musa will captain the Eagles just for the game VS Congo DR ironically Enyeama won't play that game so why was he causing trouble.

Enyeama was quoted to have made alot of caustic statements.


Enyeama said this words "Who is Oliseh?" So Oliseh sent him out of camp to show him who the boss is.

Enyeama told Oliseh what have you done that I have not done for the Super Eagles, what did you win that have not won,who are you? #Crazy

Enyeama told Oliseh how long were you in the national team? This is my 13th year you can't come in here and start misbehaving #Crazy

Anyone supporting Enyeama on this issue is supporting indiscipline. NFF on their part overruled Sunday Oliseh,what message are they passing by undermining the manager's authority?

And no, Enyeama did not apologize to Oliseh. He even went on instagram to say that Oliseh insulted his mother, something that never happened. Dude is very childish.

NOTE: I have my sources in the Eagles and it all points to the fact that Enyeama was clearly in the wrong.

GOODNEWS: Wilfred Ndidi & Kingsley Madu join Alampasu as players called up to @NGSuperEagles ahead of games VS Congo Dr & Cameroun as replacements[/b]

You expect me to believe you? Because you have some special 'informal' sources? Pleaseeee!!! Nothing less than video evidence will convince me, cos anyone could be right or wrong.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by BabaO2: 8:25pm On Oct 07, 2015
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safarigirl:
First off, I want all Nigerians to forget about qualifying for AFCON 2017, it won't happen with this rift.

Oliseh was wrong on all counts in this rift. The last player you should ever attack is the pillar of the team, the head capo, ask Didier Deschamps what Anelka did to him. Why pick on Enyeama? Enyeama has loyalists in that team that can and will rebel against Oliseh until he loses that job and they prove he was never meant to be a coach. Oliseh is displaying an arrogance he hasn't earned considering he's won nothing of note as SE coach.

And making Musa captain? Who will take orders from Musa? Is it Mikel, Emenike or the ousted Enyeama? Does Musa look like a leader? Apart from his scrawny nature, how old is he? Someone who can't even speak up when he's wronged, how will he speak on behalf of his team mates?

The only place Oliseh's myopic decisions will take he and that team is down. I just want him out ASAP cuz he's apparently not The Chosen One to bring sanity to our football.
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Grow some t*** you are a girl
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by chukzzy1(m): 8:26pm On Oct 07, 2015
Chai oliseh no dey play football manger ni....how can you make a player who lacks influence in the dressing room your captain??
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by benmike2358: 8:26pm On Oct 07, 2015
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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Ugik(m): 8:29pm On Oct 07, 2015
the thing is there are two sides to the story and judging from your analysis and the reference to anelka, that is not enough to make an assertion of an impending doom in the SE camp because oliseh unlike all the previous coaches is a youthful coach who can relate well with the players and even the assumed enyema loyalist. you ain't there, so u cnt categorically state the situation of things with regards to cliques. these so called loyalists, na enyema dey come SE come serve? those loyal to jay jay, kanu nwankwo etc who are oliseh's pal, ain't that an advantage to him. oliseh choosing musa as captain Should be a food for thought to you. of all people, Musa. was he able to manage the players and bring in a brotherly spirit in the team, sumtin abt him we dnt see when the camera lights are on. have u asked urself, since enyema shouts and meets referees, what if the guy was bossy. if oliseh fails, its because tactical wise, he wasn't good and not cos Of dressing room mgt
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Kbs468(m): 8:31pm On Oct 07, 2015
safarigirl:
oya tell me, what characteristict does Ahmed Musa have as a leader? Is he vocal? Is he assertive? Has Ahmed Musa EVER challenged any refree's decision? Guy, no be the pesin wey sabi book pass dey win SUG President, forget playing time, Ahmed Musa is NOT a leader, he's weak

Has any player's rants to a referee EVER made a referee reverse himself or herself?

Na every person wey sabi book pass dey vie for SUG elective post?


Na VC dey pick SUG president abi na election dey decide dam?

How Ahmed Musa captaincy take relate to SUG election?

Yes the qualities that Sunday Oliseh saw in Ahmed Musa includes loyalty, humility, calmness, simplicity, level-headedness, respect, commitment, dedication,love, passion, consistency and trust as examplied in the way they embraced themselves after scoring the penalty goal against Niger Republic
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by proffemi: 8:35pm On Oct 07, 2015
freecocoa:
I agree, that it would have been best, had Enyeama been quiet, but Oliseh did what he did to walk all over Enyeama and i'm sure that's why Enyeama reacted. The fact that a person works for you doesn't make them your slaves treat anyhow. Oliseh is too pompous.

I fear the posts on this matter are sufficient for a foreigner to realize the truth: one of our biggest problems as a country is indiscipline. I love Enyeama to death, but given the picture that is beginning to emerge, he was clearly out of line. No matter how many caps he has won, coach is coach. After all neither Mourinho nor Wenger had a distinguished career, and neither of them would take that crap, not even in their early days as coaches.

For Enyeama to say the things he is alleged to have said, and for NFF to overrule Oliseh, I shake my head for Nigeria. For so many Nigerians to castigate a coach simply doing the right thing (perhaps you would have been happier for him to stand mute while Enyeama ran roughshod over him?) just because the transgressor is a "star", you have to conclude there is something deeply wrong with us as a people.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 8:40pm On Oct 07, 2015
Goke7:

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you guys are forgetting that Oliseh is an employee that has an employer, did Oliseh consult the nff before he took his decision to eject Enyeama, Enyeama is even right fighting for mikel to captain as he is senior to musa, even the nff knows that. Oliseh was trying to play God by taking some decisions that needed consultations with his employers before taking action, this was one of the issues nff had with keshi and here Oliseh who criticised Keshi then is already towing the same path. This was why nff overuled Oliseh cos they know he goofed on that one. Oliseh should have consulted with the nff on the captain issue especially when Enyeama and Mikel were in camp. Nothing is wrong with Musa becoming captain but Oliseh forgot that the National team is a National asset owned by all nigerians.

Oliseh is wrong please[/s]

SENSELESS

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by udemzyudex(m): 8:44pm On Oct 07, 2015
vfactor:


I no go gree. But there's something I ve learnt why working in an organization: never challenge ur boss, even if you don't agree with him. You could talk to him privately, but not challenge him in front of ur colleague. He'll feel pressured to asert his authority, which in many cases would be the harsh way.

Oliseh should have shown more respect! But Enyeama should not have challenged his boss.

OK... Both of them are wrong, oga should use his power wisely sha
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by idris4eva(m): 8:44pm On Oct 07, 2015
vfactor:



Cos he know Nigerians worship him and think him to be a Messiah! I find it surprising, cos Oliseh was for him when the NFF wanted to ban him from the national team. To have changed all of a sudden shows some sort of arrogance on Enyeama's part.
exactly
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by tachia406: 8:47pm On Oct 07, 2015
It is so disheartening and grossly inhuman for Oliseh to do that kind of a thing to someone who has just buried a mother last weekend. To me, Enyeama is highly patriotic to honour the call. When Ferguson's wife lost a sister, not a mother per se, Ferguson had to quit one of the most lucrative jobs in world football to stay by his wife. Why would Oliseh treat someone who has always taken the Eagles on his shoulder on several occasions like that? Is wicked, inhuman,malicious, envious and blatantly malevolent. But he is going to feel the heat he has generated.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by felix10(m): 8:52pm On Oct 07, 2015
I have taken my time to closely examine people's opinion on d subject matter.Let us answer d following questions:
1)Where on earth does a coach need d permission or approval of a particular player b4 choosing who become d team captain?
2)Why would a captain attack & question d authority of a coach?
3)Must a coach wait for Football authority to decide who become his captain.
I think oliseh is on point with his decision & d reason is best known to him.
Eyeama should immediately apologize to d coach,NFF & d entire football community in nigeria.
Eyeama cant control oliseh but instead subject himself to oliseh's authority.(2 captain cant steer a ship)
We should not attach emotional sentiment to this issue.
NO PLAYER IS INDISPENSABLE & D COACH HAS D RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHO HE BELIEVES HE CAN WORK WITH.
GOD BLESS NIGERIA.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by LeSulk(m): 8:55pm On Oct 07, 2015
Great teams were built around domineering captains,the guy who can sway 50/50 referee decisions in their team's favour e.g Vieira,Keane,Puyol,Desailly,Totti,Zidane etc.Captaincy is not necessarily about the best player in the team but the most influential.Since Vieira left the Arsenal team,the team hasn't had a proper leader likewise Zidane for France.
That said,Musa is very erratic (one good game every five games) but if he can lead the team to greater heights then so be it.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by USB4: 8:57pm On Oct 07, 2015
why is some pple branding eyeama as the messiah? I think it's time to bring sanity to the supper egles of Nigeria and let those who feel Nigeria cannit do without them, go to hell. if you look back to the time of peter rufai when there was real competition as to getting a shirt in the super eagle, it was nit like this. A team manager invite u to camp and all u do is lackadaisical aattitude towards ur country. sometimes, I ask my self if they really put up this attitude in thEUR respective clubs and the answer is no. I remember , just after the world cup at Brazil, enyama threatened Nigeria with his retirement frm the national team,. he was able to do this because there was no real competition for him. Is enyama older than ike casilas, buffon or Brazilian goal keeper that he wanted to quit when he knew Nigeria has not got a real replacement for him? He now realized that getting a shirt will not be business as usual, that's why he's taking it serious now.

I hope we've not forgotten when he pulled out of one invitation given him lwat year wwithout reason and we lost the match. he only said "he has personal issues to settle". During that time he was ssettling personal issue which made him not to honour the invitation, was he not participating in club assignment?

My people, the time to return to take the country serious is now. either you are in or out. there is no longer the sacred cow.
No single player is bigger than the entire team. Also, leadership is not by size. you don't need to fight a referee before you represent your team ......otherwise, David wouldn't have been king over Israel.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by andyanders: 9:00pm On Oct 07, 2015
Olise wants someone like Musa that he can control hence his rant. At this point in his first professional as a coach, he should have handled the issue maturely rather than bursting out on the guy in public.When Enyema arrived the venue, Olise was supposed to have held a private meeting with him knowing fully well that he has been the captain of the team before he came in as a coach. The keeper lost his mother hence he was not able to be part of the last 2 games. They should have first welcomed him back in order to sympathize with him for that loss as a team brother rather than having to start issues with him.

Olise should watch out because he has not won any grade A game and as such, is just hanging.Same egocentric attitude that destroyed Keshi.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by LeSulk(m): 9:02pm On Oct 07, 2015
Kbs468:


Has any player's rants to a referee EVER made a referee reverse himself or herself?

No.But it affects future decisions of the referee.If you watched Man Utd under Roy Keane or Barça under Puyol,you'll agree

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Marcelinho(m): 9:05pm On Oct 07, 2015
vfactor:
Are Enyeama's loyalists the only set of players Nigeria can offer?

I am not in support of how Oliseh treated Enyeama, but to paint Enyeama as the messiah of Nigerian football is very absurd. Enyeama hasnt played the last two matches and Nigeria didn't lose!

If Mikel and Emenike don't like the idea of Musa being captain, they can quit the team. The world can always do without the best. I believe Oliseh knows this by his own experience!.
which of the experience are you talking about, is it the one of coaching a lower division team in Belgium, don't worry we shall all see the end. Remember Siasia!
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by davspog2(m): 9:05pm On Oct 07, 2015
safarigirl:
oya tell me, what characteristict does Ahmed Musa have as a leader? Is he vocal? Is he assertive? Has Ahmed Musa EVER challenged any refree's decision? Guy, no be the pesin wey sabi book pass dey win SUG President, forget playing time, Ahmed Musa is NOT a leader, he's weak
you can't just say he has no leadership qualities! In all of messi's reign as captain of Argentina, it's mascherano that does the team talk in the dressing room! Messi has only spoken once to give team talk and that was during the last copa America! It's the coach decision if the likes of mikel and his bandwagon can't cope let them go shikena!

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:07pm On Oct 07, 2015
Oliseh's mother needs to woman up and speak to him because i know for a fact my own mom won't let me treat a fellow man like this. For Enyeama to even show up he should have been hugged and applauded by his coach instead he was treated like a street thug. I hope Nigerians learn from this, nobody is too big to act human we should show love instead of stepping on one another because we feel we are in a better position. This is a man that was unceremoniously kicked off the super eagles doing the exact same thing to another man. So why did i even feel sorry for him in the first place? I guess the joke is on us.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 9:11pm On Oct 07, 2015
Marcelinho:
which of the experience are you talking about, is it the one of coaching a lower division team in Belgium, don't worry we shall all see the end. Remember Siasia!


The experience I meant was him being ousted from the national team when he was captain. The national team didn't die. So he knows that the world can do without the best!

You know now abi?
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by princfred(m): 9:31pm On Oct 07, 2015
vfactor:
Are Enyeama's loyalists the only set of players Nigeria can offer?

I am not in support of how Oliseh treated Enyeama, but to paint Enyeama as the messiah of Nigerian football is very absurd. Enyeama hasnt played the last two matches and Nigeria didn't lose!

If Mikel and Emenike don't like the idea of Musa being captain, they can quit the team. The world can always do without the best. I believe Oliseh knows this by his own experience!.
The teams who value their best wins the world. But here we always want to do without our deserved bests to what end ?.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by opribo(m): 9:33pm On Oct 07, 2015
omolami:
Oliseh is not a coach nor an administrator. how did he get the job?
Ask Ahmaju P

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 9:42pm On Oct 07, 2015
We are all humans with feelings. The fact remains that oliseh has the right to appoint a new captain, but he was wrong to humiliate enyeama in public by making musa d captain without consultatn. Oliseh should ask siasia what players can do to a coach. Like I said, we are all humans. You don't insult me and expect me to keep mute.

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