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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by ifko: 9:42pm On Oct 07, 2015
I was hesitating whether Oliseh is a right man for Super eagle but with his decision to ousted out Vincent he has finally convinced me that he s just a SCAM jst like APC
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by chinchum: 9:48pm On Oct 07, 2015
Goke7:


and has Enyeama planned any coup? or did he tell Oliseh that he was not qualified to coach him? what other side are you expecting to hear from unless you want to hear lies from the media as usual. From the nff offcial twitter handle, we were told that there was a rift in the camp between the two parties and that it has been settled while Enyeama remains in camp after he was kicked out by Oliseh. What this infers it that Oliseh wanted to be a boss instead of a leader and nff had to wade in to help an inexperienced coach who has never coached any national team before. The so called Pep Guardiola of Africa.
It is tantamount to a coup if a player insists he is the captain after the coach had replaced him with another, if that report is true, it is justifiable enough to make any saint get angry and react. Enyeama can not force himself as the captain of the team.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by freecocoa(f): 9:51pm On Oct 07, 2015
proffemi:


I fear the posts on this matter are sufficient for a foreigner to realize the truth: one of our biggest problems as a country is indiscipline. I love Enyeama to death, but given the picture that is beginning to emerge, he was clearly out of line. No matter how many caps he has won, coach is coach. After all neither Mourinho nor Wenger had a distinguished career, and neither of them would take that crap, not even in their early days as coaches.

For Enyeama to say the things he is alleged to have said, and for NFF to overrule Oliseh, I shake my head for Nigeria. For so many Nigerians to castigate a coach simply doing the right thing (perhaps you would have been happier for him to stand mute while Enyeama ran roughshod over him?) just because the transgressor is a "star", you have to conclude there is something deeply wrong with us as a people.
Oga, there is nothing wrong with me, I haven't in any way supported Enyeama for 'allegedly' being rude, I agreed he should have been quiet but that people also have limits, Enyeama is human too.

How do you know he is doing the right thing? You are believing the side of the story you want, but asking me not to believe the part I want? It's not like we are all sure how it really happened, but we do know that Oliseh was a "nuisance" in his days.

When a coach makes a very absurd decision, he should be overruled.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Shortyy(f): 9:55pm On Oct 07, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
There seem to be about 3 different variables to the "story" of what actually took place.

But One thing is certain. OLISEH DID NOT APPLY WISDOM AS REGARDS THE APPOINTMENT OF A NEW CAPTAIN.

He was too much in a hurry to announce Musa captain but he forgot some of the laws of power.

Before that "unwise announcement" Enyeama was "substantive" captain. The report from Vfactor does not include the fact that there was 'actually' some kind of 'election' before Enyeama hit camp and Musa was elected ahead of Mikel. How that happened still beats me.

Oliseh would have "waited" till he had a "tete-a-tete" with Enyeama. He should have given Enyeama that "respect". ENYEAMA WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT IN PUBLIC......... THAT WAS ENOUGH HUMILIATION. THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oliseh should have called Enyeama into his room, sat him down, asked how the burial went, say he's really sorry about his loss, and then go on to gradually "break the news" of his plan to make Musa captain and tell him why. He could even ask Enyeama to please express his thoughts and they would be having a long conversation with Oliseh chipping in how much he appreciates Enyeama's achievements and "unquestionable" loyalty (COME ON!!!!! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A GK WHO WON THE AFCON AS "SKIPPER" BUT ALLOWED THE "ACTUAL" SKIPPER, YOBO LIFT THE CUP...... WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE?). Oliseh would assure him he still remains "Nigeria's no.1" but must have the future in mind.

BUT DID OLISEH DO ALL THESE?? NO WAY!!!! HE JUST HAD TO RUSH IT AND LIKE SAFARIGIRL SAYS, "THE TEAM MIGHT HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE BY MISSING THE AFCON, AND WAITING FOR RUSSIA 2018......."

I like Oliseh just as I liked Keshi despite all the flaws BUT LET TRUTH BE TOLD........ OLISEH MESSED UP BIG TIME!!!!!!!

On whether Musa makes a good captain, I'll say making him captain is "NOT REALLY MY PROBLEM". My problem is the "Followership", "The cabal".

Safarigirl has a point, you need someone assertive and influential.

But Vfactor also has a point, "size determines not leadership".

BUT TO PUT YOUR POINTS TOGETHER, let me tell u a short story.

When I was 15yrs I was appointed Assistant-head boy (elect) in S.S 2.
Boyyyyy!!!!! I was "small in size" (I'm 5ft 11inches now oooo.... Abeg! No even think am o *smiles*).

I had the intelligence and genius that goes with so high a position but I also had "guts". During the interview, the Vice-principal (academics) and Vice-principal (admin.) Said this, "Son, you're the smallest but obviously one of the top 3 smartest of all 5-7 candidates, with your SIZE do you think you can command such authority?"

I said, "Sir and ma, Leadership is never about size. But about heart and I believe that I possess the charisma to lead. I didn't nominate myself. Others did because they know what I've got"

Unknown to me, they've carried out private research and found out that I've been "class captain" from Jss1-Jss2 and SS1-SS2. They were impressed with their findings despite "my small stature".

Note: I was not supposed to be made either head boy or Asst.head boy based on size. Goodness me!!!! The others were "big".

Final verdict: I was eventually made Asst. Head boy despite my size (but thanks to my class influence, assertiveness with colleagues as noticed in the school's findings, Intelligence and more)..... BUT "I WAS TOLD PRIVATELY" by one of the officials that I would have been made "head boy" but for my size....................
Was I sad? No way!!! I UNDERSTOOD.... On one hand my size was ignored but on another, it became my bane. BUT ON THE WHOLE, MY LEADERSHIP QUALITIES SHONE THROUGH TO GET ME PICKED AHEAD OF 3-5 OTHER "BIG GUYS".



So in Musa's case, leadership goes beyond loyalty to coaches. Leadership requires you being able to inspire others, to lift your team off the ground when they're struggling, assertiveness, massive influence, an ability to strike some kind of fear in the opponents (Okocha, kanu, oliseh, keshi, christian Chukwu, Yobo, and lately Enyeama were intimidating figures not really because of size but because they were "highly" respected in their positions) and much more.

Musa is respected but "how highly is he rated" by our opponents or how seriously is he taken by them?

I like Musa but I think It's kinda weird making him captain. But hey!!! It was kinda weird making me "Asst.Head boy" too. Mehnnn!!!! U needed to see me then. But I did just great and left as one of the school's most outstanding prefects till date. *Big Smiles*


Maybe as weird as Musa's appointment as captain is, THIS MAY TRIGGER A NEW DIMENSION IN MUSA'S GAME AND CONFIDENCE IN BIG MATCHES. WHO KNOWS? After all, it's said that with great power comes great responsibilities.


IN CONCLUSION, OLISEH WENT ABOUT THINGS THE WRONG WAY.......... THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL SOME BAD BLOOD IN THE TEAM AND I HOPE WE DON'T PAY THE PRICE WITH ANOTHER AFCON MISS.
Safarigirl's points may not go down well with some but I think it's because she's looking at the "Big picture"...... THE AFCON AND THE WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS.

LET'S HOPE THIS BAD BLOOD DOESN'T LAST LONG IN THE "SUPER EAGLES".........

Oliseh should have known better..........
wow

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by DipoDee: 9:55pm On Oct 07, 2015
chrisxxx:
Hey! This world is full of irony! Oliseh of all persons talking of indiscipline. Nawaooooo. Just as former PDP members in APC would also talk of corruption.

You just killed it. I will choose Enyeama over Oliseh anytime, any day.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by safarigirl(f): 10:00pm On Oct 07, 2015
davspog2:
you can't just say he has no leadership qualities! In all of messi's reign as captain of Argentina, it's mascherano that does the team talk in the dressing room! Messi has only spoken once to give team talk and that was during the last copa America! It's the coach decision if the likes of mikel and his bandwagon can't cope let them go shikena!
how can you mention Messi and Musa in the same sentence undecided? And all of you shouting "let them go" as if you have a bunch of De Geas, Lewandoskis and Neymars just waiting to take over

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by freshcvvs: 10:03pm On Oct 07, 2015
ifko:
I was hesitating whether Oliseh is a right man for Super eagle but with his decision to ousted out Vincent he has finally convinced me that he s just a SCAM jst like APC

Like your hesitation or opinion counts? Lolz
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by SirGittarus(m): 10:05pm On Oct 07, 2015
safarigirl:
oya tell me, what characteristict does Ahmed Musa have as a leader? Is he vocal? Is he assertive? Has Ahmed Musa EVER challenged any refree's decision? Guy, no be the pesin wey sabi book pass dey win SUG President, forget playing time, Ahmed Musa is NOT a leader, he's weak
don't describe someone by his looks and challenging a referee's decision in a game won't make d referee go back on his decision,U don't have to start criticising d guy now,he might prove u wrong

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Kbs468(m): 10:06pm On Oct 07, 2015
LeSulk:


No.But it affects future decisions of the referee.If you watched Man Utd under Roy Keane or Barça under Puyol,you'll agree

I completely disagree with you on the points raised above

I want to state clearly that every of MAN UNITED's refereeing favour during sir Alex Ferguson's era was totally a result of his regular post match referee criticism else how do you explain ROY KEANE's card disciplinary record even as ranting captain?

Talking about Puyol, refereeing protest in La Liga is a general scene across all clubs as multiple players are usually seen around referees even after PUYOL's exit and that was why La Liga management sounded a note of warning this season which eventually lead to a reduction of such scenerio so far this season.

Besides referees too are humans, so they watch football too and thus have prefered super stars that they personally love who mostly play for the big clubs hence the tendency to protect them on the field of play and not accord the same treatment to other players in lesser clubs.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 10:12pm On Oct 07, 2015
princfred:
The teams who value their best wins the world. But here we always want to do without our deserved bests to what end ?.


When the best becomes a divisive and destructive force, then its best to look somewhere else. France went to the 98 world cup without Eric Cantona, who was arguably their best player. He wasn't injured but simply had an attitude the coach felt was bad for the bunch. A certain Theiry Henry was picked in his place. I guess we all know the end of the story!


So my friend, the world can do without the best!
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by ogbong: 10:13pm On Oct 07, 2015
There is nothing wrong about a coach appointing his captain but there is everything wrong about doing it with a wrong motive and at the wrong time. I think Vincent should be commended for his long standing service and committment instead of the humiliation

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Goke7: 10:15pm On Oct 07, 2015
joseph1013:


Are you telling me that coaches everywhere in the world get permission from their FAs to choose their captains, leave players out of their squads and select players that will play matches?

Have you forgotten the john terry issue where Fabio capello wanted john terry as the captain of England but the FA felt otherwise cos no national team belong to any coach. This was of the issues NFF had with keshi never consulted NFF before making major decisions. Consultation is the word here not permission
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Goke7: 10:19pm On Oct 07, 2015
sharply5:


And where is it in the contract he signed that he must consult NFF before he picks a captain for his team. That is his prerogative I suppose.
Then oliseh can aslo decide the style of jerseys our team should wear. The national team belongs to the federal republic of Nigeria. Oliseh can be fired tomorrow and replaced. Oliseh is paid by tax payers money and can't take Nigerians for fools.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Goke7: 10:24pm On Oct 07, 2015
gboye1999:


I don't believe the NFF will be involved in choosing who will be the captain of a team to be selected by its appointed coach.
Its strange that same Enyeama has had issues with the two past coaches as well.
i aslo dont think having a higher number of caps translates to been a better leader.

In all, these issues sometimes rear their heads when re-building.

Then oliseh should stop inviting enyeama if he no longer needs him, if the player didn't show up like moses, he would have been tagged as unpatriotic, but he showed up few days after burying his mother and our Africa pep guardiola told a grown up to shut up and used security guys to chase him out. I actually thought initially that enyeama gave oliseh a slap to deserve that kind of treatment. Lord Jesus

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 10:24pm On Oct 07, 2015
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When I was 15yrs I was appointed Assistant-head boy (elect) in S.S 2.
Boyyyyy!!!!! I was "small in size" (I'm 5ft 11inches now oooo.... Abeg! No even think am o *smiles*).

I had the intelligence and genius that goes with so high a position but I also had "guts". During the interview, the Vice-principal (academics) and Vice-principal (admin.) Said this, "Son, you're the smallest but obviously one of the top 3 smartest of all 5-7 candidates, with your SIZE do you think you can command such authority?"

I said, "Sir and ma, Leadership is never about size. But about heart and I believe that I possess the charisma to lead. I didn't nominate myself. Others did because they know what I've got"
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Oliseh should have known better..........[/quote]


you 're a bloody liar.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Urine: 10:27pm On Oct 07, 2015
felix10:
I have taken my time to closely examine people's opinion on d subject matter.Let us answer d following questions:
1)Where on earth does a coach need d permission or approval of a particular player b4 choosing who become d team captain?
2)Why would a captain attack & question d authority of a coach?
3)Must a coach wait for Football authority to decide who become his captain.
I think oliseh is on point with his decision & d reason is best known to him.
Eyeama should immediately apologize to d coach,NFF & d entire football community in nigeria.
Eyeama cant control oliseh but instead subject himself to oliseh's authority.(2 captain cant steer a ship)
We should not attach emotional sentiment to this issue.
NO PLAYER IS INDISPENSABLE & D COACH HAS D RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHO HE BELIEVES HE CAN WORK WITH.
GOD BLESS NIGERIA.

Safarigirl this man has asked three questions, can you please answer?

Thanks
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 10:28pm On Oct 07, 2015
Oliseh should have not been selected as head coach in the first place. This is the same man that was undisciplined and was head of "the mafia" when he was captain of the super eagles now he is trying to prove he is disciplined?
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Goke7: 10:30pm On Oct 07, 2015
chinchum:
It is tantamount to a coup if a player insists he is the captain after the coach had replaced him with another, if that report is true, it is justifiable enough to make any saint get angry and react. Enyeama can not force himself as the captain of the team.
Did anybody forced oliseh to invite enyeama? We all shouted for ighalo to be invited for the Tanzania match and our Africa pep guardiola said we were all making noise so I asked again, did the NFF force oliseh to invite enyeama?
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 10:34pm On Oct 07, 2015
blueto:
Oliseh is depicting obvious reasons why I should lose my respect and deference for Him.
You just got appointed as a manager to the team and the next move is to make a despicable and judicable impact to the team with a motive of forstering discordance amongst the players by retracting Enyeama's skipperhood. it is highly impertinent of you Oliseh to execute such vituperative act.

A player who has shown an absolute fidelity over the years to the team. He has proven to be resilient in the midst of tribulation. is this how you repay him?
This preposterous treatment is highly minacious of you Oliseh against someone that deserves a solace.

Even if Enyeama had a defect, I still opine that this action of retribution is not worth it.

With this act, Failure to qualify Nigeria for Afcon might yeild an ominous career results for you Oliseh.
judicable hon Patrick.. easy oh.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 10:36pm On Oct 07, 2015
Goke7:

Did anybody forced force oliseh to invite enyeama? We all shouted for ighalo to be invited for the Tanzania match and our Africa pep guardiola said we were all making noise so I asked again, did the NFF force oliseh to invite enyeama?
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by princfred(m): 10:40pm On Oct 07, 2015
vfactor:



When the best becomes a divisive and destructive force, then its best to look somewhere else. France went to the 98 world cup without Eric Cantona, who was arguably their best player. He wasn't injured but simply had an attitude the coach felt was bad for the bunch. A certain Theiry Henry was picked in his place. I guess we all know the end of the story!


So my friend, the world can do without the best!
The world doing without the best is an exception not the rule the rule is that the best wins you the world. But in our clime exceptions are appreciated more than the rules. See most of the world cup winning teams , they retain their super stars for decades. You know how long lahm, basten Klose etc were in that national team. Same with Spain, italy etc when they won the world cup. Little wonder African teams can't win the world cup Cos we usually follow the exception - we can do without our best. Why did keshi team start losing - he executed the same mentality - we can do without our best. He had to be begged to take osaze to the world cup. Afterwards he brought in a group of jokers to play qualifiers. Meanwhile where in the world does a captain get demoted at whim after just burying his mum for no strong reason? Would England have done that to JT, Portugal to Ronaldo, Argentina to messi. I bet you the FA, coach and footballing world of such countries would rather sensibly be deep in condolence and sympathy that they won't have time to jugde and persecute him unduly now. E.g when Lampards mum died. I bet you the international football world would grin in disbelieve at how mundane, callous and barbaric our mind can be on hearing this S**t.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by chinchum: 10:40pm On Oct 07, 2015
Goke7:

Did anybody forced oliseh to invite enyeama? We all shouted for ighalo to be invited for the Tanzania match and our Africa pep guardiola said we were all making noise so I asked again, did the NFF force oliseh to invite enyeama?
I doubt if anybody forced him,he may have invited him because he felt he still had something to offer the team. Enyeama could still have been a part of the team and not be the captain, it is the prerogative of the team coach to pick the team captain, oliseh exercised that right. It is outrightly disrespectfully for Enyeama to challenge that decision openly and aggresively.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Nobody: 10:44pm On Oct 07, 2015
princfred:
The world doing without the best is an exception not the rule the rule is that the best wins you the world. But in our clime exceptions are appreciated more than the rules. See most of the world cup winning teams , they retain their super stars for decades. You know how long lahm, basten close etc were in that national team. Same with Spain, italy etc . Little wonder African teams can't win the world cup Cos we usually follow the exception - we can do without our best. Why did keshi team start losing - he executed the same mentality - we can do without our best. He had to be begged to take osaze to the world cup. Meanwhile where in the world does a captain get demoted at whine after just burying his mum for no strong reason? Would England do that to JT. Portugal to Ronaldo, Argentina to messi. I bet you the FA of such countries would rather sensible be deep in condolence and sympathy that they won't have time to jugde and persecute him unduly . E.g when Lampards mum died.


I have no problem in taking your best! But what happens when your best becomes destructive. Enyeama has had so many fallouts with many coaches. From Siasia, to Keshi to Oliseh. Even with the NFF. That indicates that he has an attitudinal problem. He's good no doubt, but he best days are gradually getting behind him. At such a time, his attitude will keep him relevant!

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Kbs468(m): 10:45pm On Oct 07, 2015
For those thinking the NFF overruled coach Oliseh over his captainship choice, pls its not so oo, its the decision to keep Enyeama in camp that the NFF waded into oo along side a group of players loyal to Musa because evicting him will leave only Carl Ikeme as the only goalkeeper in camp since the home base Eagles invited could not secure Belgium permit and they had to train. Besides he was about inviting Dele Alampasu to replace him
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by princfred(m): 10:50pm On Oct 07, 2015
Author=felix10 post=38764541]I have taken my time to closely examine people's opinion on d subject matter.Let us answer d following questions:
1)Where on earth does a coach need d permission or approval of a particular player b4 choosing who become d team captain? You may not need his approval but informing him is not a crime either especially when such change is unwarranted and the reason behind it needs the player to explain.
2)Why would a captain attack & question d authority of a coach? If the coach makes and undeserved, calous and inhumane decision against the player
3)Must a coach wait for Football authority to decide who become his captain.
I think oliseh is on point with his decision & d reason is best known to him.
Eyeama should immediately apologize to d coach,NFF & d entire football community in nigeria.
Eyeama cant control oliseh but instead subject himself to oliseh's authority.(2 captain cant steer a ship)
We should not attach emotional sentiment to this issue. Some bodies mum is dead you demote him days even though he managed to come to the camp and you don't want him to be sentimental.
NO PLAYER IS INDISPENSABLE & D COACH HAS D RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHO HE BELIEVES HE CAN WORK WITH. Great teams such as Portugal Argentina would rather value their stars instead of trying to prove to them that they are indispensable.
GOD BLESS NIGERIA.
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by saasala(m): 10:59pm On Oct 07, 2015
blueto:
Oliseh is depicting obvious reasons why I should lose my respect and deference for Him.
You just got appointed as a manager to the team and the next move is to make a despicable and judicable impact to the team with a motive of forstering discordance amongst the players by retracting Enyeama's skipperhood. it is highly impertinent of you Oliseh to execute such vituperative act.

A player who has shown an absolute fidelity over the years to the team. He has proven to be resilient in the midst of tribulation. is this how you repay him?
This preposterous treatment is highly minacious of you Oliseh against someone that deserves a solace.

Even if Enyeama had a defect, I still opine that this action of retribution is not worth it.

With this act, Failure to qualify Nigeria for Afcon might yeild an ominous career results for you Oliseh.

Alaye calm down nau... You won kill person with this your grammar ni... Haba
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by mightyokwy(m): 11:01pm On Oct 07, 2015
Our super eagles is in deep mess right now, the only way oliseh is going to get it right is to do away with all the old players in that squard, specially those that won 2013 afcon bcs from look of things those guys are going to revolte against him. He should just build his young team with ighalo, carl, musa nd other new face or else he go hear weeeen. On the other hand,I can't believe that oliseh is the one enforcing disciplin, it's just like OBJ helping PMB to fight corruption. Chai see hepocrites of highest order. cheesy grin
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by princfred(m): 11:01pm On Oct 07, 2015
vfactor:



I have no problem in taking your best! But what happens when your best becomes destructive. Enyeama has had so many fallouts with many coaches. From Siasia, to Keshi to Oliseh. Even with the NFF. That indicates that has has attitudinal problem. He's good no doubt, but he best days are gradually getting behind him. At such a time, his attitude will keep him relevant!
. It is more destructive for the captain of a side to come back from burying his mother and instead of condolence, sympathy, encouragement and motivation from coach, teammates and NFF he gets humiliated and demoted. Maybe he had problems with those previous coaches you mentioned for similar reason- they all kept trying to demean players, all tried to be callous, insensitive and express we can do without you egocentric African man leadership style. I am oga you are nothing mentality. His best days are getting behind him that's when he is most needed in order to transfer his knowledge from experience to the younger ones. That's is where the whites get it right and we keep getting it wrong. Klose was in the world cup. Mourinho brought back eto then drogba who were all past their prime to inspire and add experience. Our football mentality needs an upgrade.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Jaypea98: 11:06pm On Oct 07, 2015
joseph1013:


GOODNEWS: Wilfred Ndidi & Kingsley Madu join Alampasu as players called up to @NGSuperEagles ahead of games VS Congo Dr & Cameroun as replacements
I wonder why kingsley Madu didnt make the team at first..
That guy is just pure class anyone who saw hom against chad can testify to this fact.
I hope we dont forget Anderson Esiti too.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by mightyokwy(m): 11:11pm On Oct 07, 2015
For me I still blame oliseh till tomorrow. We all knw that he has the right to choose who ever he want for the leadership role but he shld hv done that with wisdom and maturity. He just behaved like oliseh of 90's. I can still remenber as young boy how my dad nd uncle do criticise him those days. Enyema will ever remain ever green in my hrt.

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Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Superman11(m): 12:00am On Oct 08, 2015
[size=18pt]#TEAM MUSA FOR CAPTAIN[/size]
Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by Niyinficient(m): 12:06am On Oct 08, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
There seem to be about 3 different variables to the "story" of what actually took place.

But One thing is certain. OLISEH DID NOT APPLY WISDOM AS REGARDS THE APPOINTMENT OF A NEW CAPTAIN.

He was too much in a hurry to announce Musa captain but he forgot some of the laws of power.

Before that "unwise announcement" Enyeama was "substantive" captain. The report from Vfactor does not include the fact that there was 'actually' some kind of 'election' before Enyeama hit camp and Musa was elected ahead of Mikel. How that happened still beats me.

Oliseh would have "waited" till he had a "tete-a-tete" with Enyeama. He should have given Enyeama that "respect". ENYEAMA WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT IN PUBLIC......... THAT WAS ENOUGH HUMILIATION. THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oliseh should have called Enyeama into his room, sat him down, asked how the burial went, say he's really sorry about his loss, and then go on to gradually "break the news" of his plan to make Musa captain and tell him why. He could even ask Enyeama to please express his thoughts and they would be having a long conversation with Oliseh chipping in how much he appreciates Enyeama's achievements and "unquestionable" loyalty (COME ON!!!!! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A GK WHO WON THE AFCON AS "SKIPPER" BUT ALLOWED THE "ACTUAL" SKIPPER, YOBO LIFT THE CUP...... WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE?). Oliseh would assure him he still remains "Nigeria's no.1" but must have the future in mind.

BUT DID OLISEH DO ALL THESE?? NO WAY!!!! HE JUST HAD TO RUSH IT AND LIKE SAFARIGIRL SAYS, "THE TEAM MIGHT HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE BY MISSING THE AFCON, AND WAITING FOR RUSSIA 2018......."

I like Oliseh just as I liked Keshi despite all the flaws BUT LET TRUTH BE TOLD........ OLISEH MESSED UP BIG TIME!!!!!!!

On whether Musa makes a good captain, I'll say making him captain is "NOT REALLY MY PROBLEM". My problem is the "Followership", "The cabal".

Safarigirl has a point, you need someone assertive and influential.

But Vfactor also has a point, "size determines not leadership".

BUT TO PUT YOUR POINTS TOGETHER, let me tell u a short story.

When I was 15yrs I was appointed Assistant-head boy (elect) in S.S 2.
Boyyyyy!!!!! I was "small in size" (I'm 5ft 11inches now oooo.... Abeg! No even think am o *smiles*).

I had the intelligence and genius that goes with so high a position but I also had "guts". During the interview, the Vice-principal (academics) and Vice-principal (admin.) Said this, "Son, you're the smallest but obviously one of the top 3 smartest of all 5-7 candidates, with your SIZE do you think you can command such authority?"

I said, "Sir and ma, Leadership is never about size. But about heart and I believe that I possess the charisma to lead. I didn't nominate myself. Others did because they know what I've got"

Unknown to me, they've carried out private research and found out that I've been "class captain" from Jss1-Jss2 and SS1-SS2. They were impressed with their findings despite "my small stature".

Note: I was not supposed to be made either head boy or Asst.head boy based on size. Goodness me!!!! The others were "big".

Final verdict: I was eventually made Asst. Head boy despite my size (but thanks to my class influence, assertiveness with colleagues as noticed in the school's findings, Intelligence and more)..... BUT "I WAS TOLD PRIVATELY" by one of the officials that I would have been made "head boy" but for my size....................
Was I sad? No way!!! I UNDERSTOOD.... On one hand my size was ignored but on another, it became my bane. BUT ON THE WHOLE, MY LEADERSHIP QUALITIES SHONE THROUGH TO GET ME PICKED AHEAD OF 3-5 OTHER "BIG GUYS".



So in Musa's case, leadership goes beyond loyalty to coaches. Leadership requires you being able to inspire others, to lift your team off the ground when they're struggling, assertiveness, massive influence, an ability to strike some kind of fear in the opponents (Okocha, kanu, oliseh, keshi, christian Chukwu, Yobo, and lately Enyeama were intimidating figures not really because of size but because they were "highly" respected in their positions) and much more.

Musa is respected but "how highly is he rated" by our opponents or how seriously is he taken by them?

I like Musa but I think It's kinda weird making him captain. But hey!!! It was kinda weird making me "Asst.Head boy" too. Mehnnn!!!! U needed to see me then. But I did just great and left as one of the school's most outstanding prefects till date. *Big Smiles*


Maybe as weird as Musa's appointment as captain is, THIS MAY TRIGGER A NEW DIMENSION IN MUSA'S GAME AND CONFIDENCE IN BIG MATCHES. WHO KNOWS? After all, it's said that with great power comes great responsibilities.


IN CONCLUSION, OLISEH WENT ABOUT THINGS THE WRONG WAY.......... THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL SOME BAD BLOOD IN THE TEAM AND I HOPE WE DON'T PAY THE PRICE WITH ANOTHER AFCON MISS.
Safarigirl's points may not go down well with some but I think it's because she's looking at the "Big picture"...... THE AFCON AND THE WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS.

LET'S HOPE THIS BAD BLOOD DOESN'T LAST LONG IN THE "SUPER EAGLES".........

Oliseh should have known better..........

I av never seen such a sensible, knowledgeable and analytical nairalander aside mysef as this fellow. So on point

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