₦airaland Forum

Goke7:
and has Enyeama planned any coup? or did he tell Oliseh that he was not qualified to coach him? what other side are you expecting to hear from unless you want to hear lies from the media as usual. From the nff offcial twitter handle, we were told that there was a rift in the camp between the two parties and that it has been settled while Enyeama remains in camp after he was kicked out by Oliseh. What this infers it that Oliseh wanted to be a boss instead of a leader and nff had to wade in to help an inexperienced coach who has never coached any national team before. The so called Pep Guardiola of Africa.

proffemi:
I fear the posts on this matter are sufficient for a foreigner to realize the truth: one of our biggest problems as a country is indiscipline. I love Enyeama to death, but given the picture that is beginning to emerge, he was clearly out of line. No matter how many caps he has won, coach is coach. After all neither Mourinho nor Wenger had a distinguished career, and neither of them would take that crap, not even in their early days as coaches.

For Enyeama to say the things he is alleged to have said, and for NFF to overrule Oliseh, I shake my head for Nigeria. For so many Nigerians to castigate a coach simply doing the right thing (perhaps you would have been happier for him to stand mute while Enyeama ran roughshod over him?) just because the transgressor is a "star", you have to conclude there is something deeply wrong with us as a people.

TheSuperNerd:
There seem to be about 3 different variables to the "story" of what actually took place.

But One thing is certain. OLISEH DID NOT APPLY WISDOM AS REGARDS THE APPOINTMENT OF A NEW CAPTAIN.

He was too much in a hurry to announce Musa captain but he forgot some of the laws of power.

Before that "unwise announcement" Enyeama was "substantive" captain. The report from Vfactor does not include the fact that there was 'actually' some kind of 'election' before Enyeama hit camp and Musa was elected ahead of Mikel. How that happened still beats me.

Oliseh would have "waited" till he had a "tete-a-tete" with Enyeama. He should have given Enyeama that "respect". ENYEAMA WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT IN PUBLIC......... THAT WAS ENOUGH HUMILIATION. THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oliseh should have called Enyeama into his room, sat him down, asked how the burial went, say he's really sorry about his loss, and then go on to gradually "break the news" of his plan to make Musa captain and tell him why. He could even ask Enyeama to please express his thoughts and they would be having a long conversation with Oliseh chipping in how much he appreciates Enyeama's achievements and "unquestionable" loyalty (COME ON!!!!! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A GK WHO WON THE AFCON AS "SKIPPER" BUT ALLOWED THE "ACTUAL" SKIPPER, YOBO LIFT THE CUP...... WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE?). Oliseh would assure him he still remains "Nigeria's no.1" but must have the future in mind.

BUT DID OLISEH DO ALL THESE?? NO WAY!!!! HE JUST HAD TO RUSH IT AND LIKE SAFARIGIRL SAYS, "THE TEAM MIGHT HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE BY MISSING THE AFCON, AND WAITING FOR RUSSIA 2018......."

I like Oliseh just as I liked Keshi despite all the flaws BUT LET TRUTH BE TOLD........ OLISEH MESSED UP BIG TIME!!!!!!!

On whether Musa makes a good captain, I'll say making him captain is "NOT REALLY MY PROBLEM". My problem is the "Followership", "The cabal".

Safarigirl has a point, you need someone assertive and influential.

But Vfactor also has a point, "size determines not leadership".

BUT TO PUT YOUR POINTS TOGETHER, let me tell u a short story.

When I was 15yrs I was appointed Assistant-head boy (elect) in S.S 2.
Boyyyyy!!!!! I was "small in size" (I'm 5ft 11inches now oooo.... Abeg! No even think am o *smiles*).

I had the intelligence and genius that goes with so high a position but I also had "guts". During the interview, the Vice-principal (academics) and Vice-principal (admin.) Said this, "Son, you're the smallest but obviously one of the top 3 smartest of all 5-7 candidates, with your SIZE do you think you can command such authority?"

I said, "Sir and ma, Leadership is never about size. But about heart and I believe that I possess the charisma to lead. I didn't nominate myself. Others did because they know what I've got"

Unknown to me, they've carried out private research and found out that I've been "class captain" from Jss1-Jss2 and SS1-SS2. They were impressed with their findings despite "my small stature".

Note: I was not supposed to be made either head boy or Asst.head boy based on size. Goodness me!!!! The others were "big".

Final verdict: I was eventually made Asst. Head boy despite my size (but thanks to my class influence, assertiveness with colleagues as noticed in the school's findings, Intelligence and more)..... BUT "I WAS TOLD PRIVATELY" by one of the officials that I would have been made "head boy" but for my size....................
Was I sad? No way!!! I UNDERSTOOD.... On one hand my size was ignored but on another, it became my bane. BUT ON THE WHOLE, MY LEADERSHIP QUALITIES SHONE THROUGH TO GET ME PICKED AHEAD OF 3-5 OTHER "BIG GUYS".



So in Musa's case, leadership goes beyond loyalty to coaches. Leadership requires you being able to inspire others, to lift your team off the ground when they're struggling, assertiveness, massive influence, an ability to strike some kind of fear in the opponents (Okocha, kanu, oliseh, keshi, christian Chukwu, Yobo, and lately Enyeama were intimidating figures not really because of size but because they were "highly" respected in their positions) and much more.

Musa is respected but "how highly is he rated" by our opponents or how seriously is he taken by them?

I like Musa but I think It's kinda weird making him captain. But hey!!! It was kinda weird making me "Asst.Head boy" too. Mehnnn!!!! U needed to see me then. But I did just great and left as one of the school's most outstanding prefects till date. *Big Smiles*


Maybe as weird as Musa's appointment as captain is, THIS MAY TRIGGER A NEW DIMENSION IN MUSA'S GAME AND CONFIDENCE IN BIG MATCHES. WHO KNOWS? After all, it's said that with great power comes great responsibilities.


IN CONCLUSION, OLISEH WENT ABOUT THINGS THE WRONG WAY.......... THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL SOME BAD BLOOD IN THE TEAM AND I HOPE WE DON'T PAY THE PRICE WITH ANOTHER AFCON MISS.
Safarigirl's points may not go down well with some but I think it's because she's looking at the "Big picture"...... THE AFCON AND THE WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS.

LET'S HOPE THIS BAD BLOOD DOESN'T LAST LONG IN THE "SUPER EAGLES".........

Oliseh should have known better..........

chrisxxx:
Hey! This world is full of irony! Oliseh of all persons talking of indiscipline. Nawaooooo. Just as former PDP members in APC would also talk of corruption.

davspog2:
you can't just say he has no leadership qualities! In all of messi's reign as captain of Argentina, it's mascherano that does the team talk in the dressing room! Messi has only spoken once to give team talk and that was during the last copa America! It's the coach decision if the likes of mikel and his bandwagon can't cope let them go shikena!

ifko:
I was hesitating whether Oliseh is a right man for Super eagle but with his decision to ousted out Vincent he has finally convinced me that he s just a SCAM jst like APC

safarigirl:
oya tell me, what characteristict does Ahmed Musa have as a leader? Is he vocal? Is he assertive? Has Ahmed Musa EVER challenged any refree's decision? Guy, no be the pesin wey sabi book pass dey win SUG President, forget playing time, Ahmed Musa is NOT a leader, he's weak

LeSulk:
No.But it affects future decisions of the referee.If you watched Man Utd under Roy Keane or Barça under Puyol,you'll agree

princfred:
The teams who value their best wins the world. But here we always want to do without our deserved bests to what end ?.

joseph1013:
Are you telling me that coaches everywhere in the world get permission from their FAs to choose their captains, leave players out of their squads and select players that will play matches?

sharply5:
And where is it in the contract he signed that he must consult NFF before he picks a captain for his team. That is his prerogative I suppose.

gboye1999:
I don't believe the NFF will be involved in choosing who will be the captain of a team to be selected by its appointed coach.
Its strange that same Enyeama has had issues with the two past coaches as well.
i aslo dont think having a higher number of caps translates to been a better leader.

In all, these issues sometimes rear their heads when re-building.

felix10:
I have taken my time to closely examine people's opinion on d subject matter.Let us answer d following questions:
1)Where on earth does a coach need d permission or approval of a particular player b4 choosing who become d team captain?
2)Why would a captain attack & question d authority of a coach?
3)Must a coach wait for Football authority to decide who become his captain.
I think oliseh is on point with his decision & d reason is best known to him.
Eyeama should immediately apologize to d coach,NFF & d entire football community in nigeria.
Eyeama cant control oliseh but instead subject himself to oliseh's authority.(2 captain cant steer a ship)
We should not attach emotional sentiment to this issue.
NO PLAYER IS INDISPENSABLE & D COACH HAS D RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHO HE BELIEVES HE CAN WORK WITH.
GOD BLESS NIGERIA.

chinchum:
It is tantamount to a coup if a player insists he is the captain after the coach had replaced him with another, if that report is true, it is justifiable enough to make any saint get angry and react. Enyeama can not force himself as the captain of the team.

blueto:
Oliseh is depicting obvious reasons why I should lose my respect and deference for Him.
You just got appointed as a manager to the team and the next move is to make a despicable and judicable impact to the team with a motive of forstering discordance amongst the players by retracting Enyeama's skipperhood. it is highly impertinent of you Oliseh to execute such vituperative act.

A player who has shown an absolute fidelity over the years to the team. He has proven to be resilient in the midst of tribulation. is this how you repay him?
This preposterous treatment is highly minacious of you Oliseh against someone that deserves a solace.

Even if Enyeama had a defect, I still opine that this action of retribution is not worth it.

With this act, Failure to qualify Nigeria for Afcon might yeild an ominous career results for you Oliseh.

Goke7:
Did anybody forced force oliseh to invite enyeama? We all shouted for ighalo to be invited for the Tanzania match and our Africa pep guardiola said we were all making noise so I asked again, did the NFF force oliseh to invite enyeama?

vfactor:
When the best becomes a divisive and destructive force, then its best to look somewhere else. France went to the 98 world cup without Eric Cantona, who was arguably their best player. He wasn't injured but simply had an attitude the coach felt was bad for the bunch. A certain Theiry Henry was picked in his place. I guess we all know the end of the story!


So my friend, the world can do without the best!

Goke7:
Did anybody forced oliseh to invite enyeama? We all shouted for ighalo to be invited for the Tanzania match and our Africa pep guardiola said we were all making noise so I asked again, did the NFF force oliseh to invite enyeama?

princfred:
The world doing without the best is an exception not the rule the rule is that the best wins you the world. But in our clime exceptions are appreciated more than the rules. See most of the world cup winning teams , they retain their super stars for decades. You know how long lahm, basten close etc were in that national team. Same with Spain, italy etc . Little wonder African teams can't win the world cup Cos we usually follow the exception - we can do without our best. Why did keshi team start losing - he executed the same mentality - we can do without our best. He had to be begged to take osaze to the world cup. Meanwhile where in the world does a captain get demoted at whine after just burying his mum for no strong reason? Would England do that to JT. Portugal to Ronaldo, Argentina to messi. I bet you the FA of such countries would rather sensible be deep in condolence and sympathy that they won't have time to jugde and persecute him unduly . E.g when Lampards mum died.

blueto:
Oliseh is depicting obvious reasons why I should lose my respect and deference for Him.
You just got appointed as a manager to the team and the next move is to make a despicable and judicable impact to the team with a motive of forstering discordance amongst the players by retracting Enyeama's skipperhood. it is highly impertinent of you Oliseh to execute such vituperative act.

A player who has shown an absolute fidelity over the years to the team. He has proven to be resilient in the midst of tribulation. is this how you repay him?
This preposterous treatment is highly minacious of you Oliseh against someone that deserves a solace.

Even if Enyeama had a defect, I still opine that this action of retribution is not worth it.

With this act, Failure to qualify Nigeria for Afcon might yeild an ominous career results for you Oliseh.

vfactor:
I have no problem in taking your best! But what happens when your best becomes destructive. Enyeama has had so many fallouts with many coaches. From Siasia, to Keshi to Oliseh. Even with the NFF. That indicates that has has attitudinal problem. He's good no doubt, but he best days are gradually getting behind him. At such a time, his attitude will keep him relevant!

joseph1013:


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TheSuperNerd:
There seem to be about 3 different variables to the "story" of what actually took place.

But One thing is certain. OLISEH DID NOT APPLY WISDOM AS REGARDS THE APPOINTMENT OF A NEW CAPTAIN.

He was too much in a hurry to announce Musa captain but he forgot some of the laws of power.

Before that "unwise announcement" Enyeama was "substantive" captain. The report from Vfactor does not include the fact that there was 'actually' some kind of 'election' before Enyeama hit camp and Musa was elected ahead of Mikel. How that happened still beats me.

Oliseh would have "waited" till he had a "tete-a-tete" with Enyeama. He should have given Enyeama that "respect". ENYEAMA WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT IN PUBLIC......... THAT WAS ENOUGH HUMILIATION. THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oliseh should have called Enyeama into his room, sat him down, asked how the burial went, say he's really sorry about his loss, and then go on to gradually "break the news" of his plan to make Musa captain and tell him why. He could even ask Enyeama to please express his thoughts and they would be having a long conversation with Oliseh chipping in how much he appreciates Enyeama's achievements and "unquestionable" loyalty (COME ON!!!!! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A GK WHO WON THE AFCON AS "SKIPPER" BUT ALLOWED THE "ACTUAL" SKIPPER, YOBO LIFT THE CUP...... WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE?). Oliseh would assure him he still remains "Nigeria's no.1" but must have the future in mind.

BUT DID OLISEH DO ALL THESE?? NO WAY!!!! HE JUST HAD TO RUSH IT AND LIKE SAFARIGIRL SAYS, "THE TEAM MIGHT HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE BY MISSING THE AFCON, AND WAITING FOR RUSSIA 2018......."

I like Oliseh just as I liked Keshi despite all the flaws BUT LET TRUTH BE TOLD........ OLISEH MESSED UP BIG TIME!!!!!!!

On whether Musa makes a good captain, I'll say making him captain is "NOT REALLY MY PROBLEM". My problem is the "Followership", "The cabal".

Safarigirl has a point, you need someone assertive and influential.

But Vfactor also has a point, "size determines not leadership".

BUT TO PUT YOUR POINTS TOGETHER, let me tell u a short story.

When I was 15yrs I was appointed Assistant-head boy (elect) in S.S 2.
Boyyyyy!!!!! I was "small in size" (I'm 5ft 11inches now oooo.... Abeg! No even think am o *smiles*).

I had the intelligence and genius that goes with so high a position but I also had "guts". During the interview, the Vice-principal (academics) and Vice-principal (admin.) Said this, "Son, you're the smallest but obviously one of the top 3 smartest of all 5-7 candidates, with your SIZE do you think you can command such authority?"

I said, "Sir and ma, Leadership is never about size. But about heart and I believe that I possess the charisma to lead. I didn't nominate myself. Others did because they know what I've got"

Unknown to me, they've carried out private research and found out that I've been "class captain" from Jss1-Jss2 and SS1-SS2. They were impressed with their findings despite "my small stature".

Note: I was not supposed to be made either head boy or Asst.head boy based on size. Goodness me!!!! The others were "big".

Final verdict: I was eventually made Asst. Head boy despite my size (but thanks to my class influence, assertiveness with colleagues as noticed in the school's findings, Intelligence and more)..... BUT "I WAS TOLD PRIVATELY" by one of the officials that I would have been made "head boy" but for my size....................
Was I sad? No way!!! I UNDERSTOOD.... On one hand my size was ignored but on another, it became my bane. BUT ON THE WHOLE, MY LEADERSHIP QUALITIES SHONE THROUGH TO GET ME PICKED AHEAD OF 3-5 OTHER "BIG GUYS".



So in Musa's case, leadership goes beyond loyalty to coaches. Leadership requires you being able to inspire others, to lift your team off the ground when they're struggling, assertiveness, massive influence, an ability to strike some kind of fear in the opponents (Okocha, kanu, oliseh, keshi, christian Chukwu, Yobo, and lately Enyeama were intimidating figures not really because of size but because they were "highly" respected in their positions) and much more.

Musa is respected but "how highly is he rated" by our opponents or how seriously is he taken by them?

I like Musa but I think It's kinda weird making him captain. But hey!!! It was kinda weird making me "Asst.Head boy" too. Mehnnn!!!! U needed to see me then. But I did just great and left as one of the school's most outstanding prefects till date. *Big Smiles*


Maybe as weird as Musa's appointment as captain is, THIS MAY TRIGGER A NEW DIMENSION IN MUSA'S GAME AND CONFIDENCE IN BIG MATCHES. WHO KNOWS? After all, it's said that with great power comes great responsibilities.


IN CONCLUSION, OLISEH WENT ABOUT THINGS THE WRONG WAY.......... THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL SOME BAD BLOOD IN THE TEAM AND I HOPE WE DON'T PAY THE PRICE WITH ANOTHER AFCON MISS.
Safarigirl's points may not go down well with some but I think it's because she's looking at the "Big picture"...... THE AFCON AND THE WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS.

LET'S HOPE THIS BAD BLOOD DOESN'T LAST LONG IN THE "SUPER EAGLES".........

Oliseh should have known better..........