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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ayosat(m): 5:05pm On Oct 09, 2015
Teepompey:
Palm oil can be applied to newly pumped water in the pond to clear off foam-like substance in the pond. Its good for fish cos in no time, you would be unable to find the oil in the pond. Its a source of energy.
Yes you are on point with this .
But people still need to careful. Foaming is like a distress call for fish. It sometimes signify something is going wrong inside the water . If you see foams you need to really find out why the fish are foaming and not to quickly apply palm oil .
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Teepompey: 5:19pm On Oct 09, 2015
I'm looking forward to seeing members drop formulas that they have tried and which gave them not just good but great result. Oga ab1x said he doesn't have stable formula as he tries new ideas. There are lots of ingredients that one can use in feed formulation but some are not been presented here. I will like the house and gurus to discuss on special ingredients used in feed formulation. We have classes: animal protein, plant protein, energy sources and supplements. Fish meal, blood meal, bone meal, ground nut cake(GNC), soya, soybean meal(SBM), full fat soya, peanut, maize, whole wheat, wheat offal, rice bran, animal fat, fish oil, egusi, flour, biscuit, indomie, gala, etc.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Teepompey: 5:22pm On Oct 09, 2015
ayosat:

Yes you are on point with this .
But people still need to careful. Foaming is like a distress call for fish. It sometimes signify something is going wrong inside the water . If you see foams you need to really find out why the fish are foaming and not to quickly apply palm oil .
Thanks for the comment boss. Noted.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ab1x: 6:32pm On Oct 09, 2015
Teepompey:
I'm looking forward to seeing members drop formulas that they have tried and which gave them not just good but great result. Oga ab1x said he doesn't have stable formula as he tries new ideas. There are lots of ingredients that one can use in feed formulation but some are not been presented here. I will like the house and gurus to discuss on special ingredients used in feed formulation. We have classes: animal protein, plant protein, energy sources and supplements. Fish meal, blood meal, bone meal, ground nut cake(GNC), soya, soybean meal(SBM), full fat soya, peanut, maize, whole wheat, wheat offal, rice bran, animal fat, fish oil, egusi, flour, biscuit, indomie, gala, etc.



The fact is, there are many ingredients in feed formulation however the most important one is fish meal and it is constant. Blood meal is fine but you can't use blood meal to replace fish meal but they can both be included in feed formulation. However, the problem with blood meal is that it can easily infect your fish with disease. Research has shown that the process which they go through to process it is unhygienic and as such they are easily prone to disease. It is also very difficult to control the disease when it happens. Another problem with using blood meal is that it pollutes the water fast.

Bone meal is fine. It is one of the ingredient that I have used in the past but I observe that most of the crusher they used do not crush it very well which sometimes hard for the fish to digest on time and if they do not digest it then it can make them die or reduce their eating habit.

Wheat Offal can be used to replace maize in that it is a cheap alternative compared to maize however, maize is rich in nature than wheat offal. I have used it in the past. It is advisable to use it for matured fish ( fish that are around 4 months to reduce cost)
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Hebraham(m): 8:41pm On Oct 09, 2015
ayosat:

@ Talkk
* you will need 2 female of 1.5 kg to 2 kg with 1 male of 2kg brood stock
* 5 vats of 500 ltr can take the 25000 fries at 5000 each. With this you will be able to monitor them well
* the nursery is where the challenge may be. Cos with 1000 ltr you will need to keep just 2000 fingerlings. Some keep up to 5000 fingerlings in a 1000 ltr tank. But my advice is 2000. This will make your fish grow faster healthier and stronger. For this you will need about 12 vats of 1000 ltr each.
Wish you Good luck
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Hebraham(m): 9:41pm On Oct 09, 2015
Invariably,1 female of 2kg with a male of 1.5kg she will give us 15 thausand fries. In achieving these how will one ensure that attention should be paid to the following steps:
1. Identifying the right female burtstock with enough egg and male that is crossed.
2. Perfecting a hatching techniques that will guaranty at least 80% hatching rate and 70% survival rate of the fries.
Sadly a lot of hatchers that i visited their farm could not acheive these. What are these HIDING secret that would enable a hatcher to perform successful hatching with maximum yield. @ ayosax,Roboski15,Excellor,Ab1X,Aquatic,acquadud and other expert.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Heroesworths(m): 10:39pm On Oct 09, 2015
Hebraham:
Invariably,1 female of 2kg with a male of 1.5kg she will give us 15 thausand fries. In achieving these how will one ensure that attention should be paid to the following steps:
1. Identifying the right female burtstock with enough egg and male that is crossed.
2. Perfecting a hatching techniques that will guaranty at least 80% hatching rate and 70% survival rate of the fries.
Sadly a lot of hatchers that i visited their farm could not acheive these. What are these HIDING secret that would enable a hatcher to perform successful hatching with maximum yield. @ ayosax,Roboski15,Excellor,Ab1X,Aquatic,acquadud and other expert.

At last, i will be contributing on this tread. My 0.7-0.8kg of female broods use to give almost 10 thousand fingerlings, and that of 1.5-2.0kg i have recorded severally after giving out 10% mortality rate. To answer your questions

1. The female broods usually have there belly protrude. without even checking the egg you would know instantly that the are females. You need to test striped them and make sure their nucleus is visible, the eggs are either greenish or brownish.
2. sometime we get more than 70% percent here but this is achieved with kin seriousness and observations, what kill fries most of time that i have observed is over ambition; many of our breeder has capacity that can only produce less than 5000 fingerlings at a go..instead of them to use smaller fish the will go the one which can 20k. overpopulation kills more than anything in hatching business, its bring about infection, low growth...economy lrost and most of all rob breaders their sleep

@ayosax,Roboski15,Excellor,Ab1X,Aquatic,acquadud and other expert... i hope you i do not hijacked the questions from you guys and please correct me if i m wrong.

i m available on 08066401947. ...info@heroesworth.com
we also have fingerlings at affordable price
check us out on heroesworth.com
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Heroesworths(m): 10:46pm On Oct 09, 2015
If you are in Kwara(Ilorin) and you need assistance regarding your fingerling production please contact me on 08066401947
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Teepompey: 11:01pm On Oct 09, 2015
[quote author=ab1x post=38826526]

The fact is, there are many ingredients in feed formulation however the most important one is fish meal and it is constant. Blood meal is fine but you can't use blood meal to replace fish meal but they can both be included in feed formulation. However, the problem with blood meal is that it can easily infect your fish with disease. Research has shown that the process which they go through to process it is unhygienic and as such they are easily prone to disease. It i
Thanks boss for this great piece. I would love to know what you think about combining maize and whole wheat together. If you check the formula for broilers starter, maize carries the largest percentage followed by wheat offal. I would appreciate if you can point out ingredients that enhance exceptional weight gain and that which enhance fatness based on your personal experience. Thanks for your selfless service. You're highly appreciated.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ab1x: 11:19pm On Oct 09, 2015
[quote author=Teepompey post=38834429][/quote]


Both can be combine in a formula. It does not have any demerit. There is no clear ingredient that can boost the weight of fish as there is no shortcut to anywhere. A healthy fish that eats balance diet will have weight. In Nigeria, we eat a lot of carbohydrates like Eba, fufu, rice etc that does not implies that the strongest person or the world most weighted person is in Africa . lol grin grin grin

Thus, you need to give fish feed that can easily digest (balance diet) and ensure the water is clean at all times.


It has been argued in some quarters however that Koko Garri, Maize, PKC and all what have you gives fish weight. Abegi, I have used it and I noticed that too much of it in the feeds does not allow the fish to digest the food intakes on time, reduce the amount of feeds they consumed and also waste feeds in that most of the fish will pick the feeds, you will be thinking they are eating it but alas they will go to the bottom of the pond to vomit it.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by TUNDESANCO(m): 11:45pm On Oct 09, 2015
I've been in fisheries business for years now. I train people on how to hatch, I set up hatchery for clients. I sell fingerlings and juvenile on a large scale. My advice is that people should go for ready made feeds like copens, durante etc to ensure effeciency and effectiveness. Making your feeds is good but have you considered the yield during your harvest to ready made feeds? For you to have great result in your hatching, monitoring and control is key. Fishery business can make u rich if know the secrets. You can contact me on 08032869913(whatsapp). Tundesanco@gmail.com. M2M Farm Federal Housing, Lugbe, ABUJA

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Teepompey: 5:36am On Oct 10, 2015
[quote author=ab1x post=38834828]


Both can be combine in a formula. It does not have any demerit. There is no clear ingredient that can boost the weight of fish as there is no shortcut to anywhere. A healthy fish that eats balance diet will have weight. In Nigeria, we eat a lot of carbohydrates like Eba, fufu, rice etc that does not implies that the strongest person or the world most weighted person is in Africa . lol grin grin grin

Thus, you need to give fish feed that can easily digest (balance diet)
True yarn! But talking on PKC, are you aware it's contained in broiler starter feed formula?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ab1x: 6:23am On Oct 10, 2015
[quote author=Teepompey post=38837421][/quote]



How both digest is different. PKC is one of the ingredient that I have used as well. You can used it only if you want to use little quantity though because it is very cheap say 28 naira per kg
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Teepompey: 9:33am On Oct 10, 2015
ab1x:




How both digest is different. PKC is one of the ingredient that I have used as well. You can used it only if you want to use little quantity though because it is very cheap say 28 naira per kg
Fine. I believe the supplements should be able to cover some of these deficiencies arising from certain ingredients. For instance, lysine is meant to aid feed digestion. Also, I think there are different types of premix, I believe there is a finisher premix.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Sudirnge1(f): 5:27pm On Oct 10, 2015
Teepompey:
Findings show that animal proteins can be partly replaced or substituted by plant proteins without affecting growth and feed efficiency. This would reduce cost of production and one would agree that this is the reason why feeds with less protein are not as expensive as the protein rich feeds. Also, role of supplements like methionine and lysine cannot be overlooked as they also aid fast growth.
pls what is the importance of Dcp in fish feed?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lamude23: 7:53pm On Oct 10, 2015
Please, my question is on the formation of eggs in the belly of clarias especially when dey are not fed well, will this development slow or stop the growth of clarias as I have heard in some quarters dt it does..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pathology(m): 8:35am On Oct 11, 2015
please how many times should a broodstock be fed daily or every other day
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by manya(m): 11:18am On Oct 11, 2015
I greet all the Gurus in the house.
My question to Teepompey, ab1x and others.
please i want to start formulating my feed considering the high cost of fish feed nowadays and the ingredients are no issues to me as i have them in abundance (I farm most of them except fish meal). My problem is the machine to use and the problem of making it float.
I have been browsing to find out which machine will be suitable and at affordable price. but i just cant buy a machine without knowing full well how it works. if possible i have to see and hear from someone who uses it.
please any input on how my problem can be solved?
Thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Teepompey: 2:03pm On Oct 11, 2015
Sudirnge1:
pls what is the importance of Dcp in fish feed?
It helps boost their immune system, support normal growth and development.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Teepompey: 2:09pm On Oct 11, 2015
[quote author=manya post=38874571]I greet all the Gurus in the house.
My question to Teepompey, ab1x and others.
please i want to start formulating my feed considering the high cost of fish feed nowadays and the ingredients are no issues to me as i have them in abundance (I farm most of them except fish meal). My problem is the machine to use and the problem of making it float.
I have been browsing to find out which machine will be suitable and at affordable price. but i just cant buy a machine without

I guess you mean milling your own feeds. I'm sorry I also do not know about the machineries but I'm very sure our bosses- Robonski and Ab1x would provide solution to the problem.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:31pm On Oct 11, 2015
Heroesworths:


At last, i will be contributing on this tread. My 0.7-0.8kg of female broods use to give almost 10 thousand fingerlings, and that of 1.5-2.0kg i have recorded severally after giving out 10% mortality rate. To answer your questions

1. The female broods usually have there belly protrude. without even checking the egg you would know instantly that the are females. You need to test striped them and make sure their nucleus is visible, the eggs are either greenish or brownish.
2. sometime we get more than 70% percent here but this is achieved with kin seriousness and observations, what kill fries most of time that i have observed is over ambition; many of our breeder has capacity that can only produce less than 5000 fingerlings at a go..instead of them to use smaller fish the will go the one which can 20k. overpopulation kills more than anything in hatching business, its bring about infection, low growth...economy lrost and most of all rob breaders their sleep

@ayosax,Roboski15,Excellor,Ab1X,Aquatic,acquadud and other expert... i hope you i do not hijacked the questions from you guys and please correct me if i m wrong.

i m available on 08066401947. ...info@heroesworth.com
we also have fingerlings at affordable price
check us out on heroesworth.com


You answered perfectly well sir, pls feel free to answer questions when you can its an open thread nobody is hijacking.. we need more experienced peeps like you to assist others as well.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:35pm On Oct 11, 2015
pathology:
please how many times should a broodstock be fed daily or every other day

I feed my broodstock every other day to avoid fat which might cause infertility overtime

www.agricnetwork.com
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:38pm On Oct 11, 2015
manya:
I greet all the Gurus in the house.
My question to Teepompey, ab1x and others.
please i want to start formulating my feed considering the high cost of fish feed nowadays and the ingredients are no issues to me as i have them in abundance (I farm most of them except fish meal). My problem is the machine to use and the problem of making it float.
I have been browsing to find out which machine will be suitable and at affordable price. but i just cant buy a machine without knowing full well how it works. if possible i have to see and hear from someone who uses it.
please any input on how my problem can be solved?
Thank you.

To make your feed float you have to get an extruder or pelletizer for sinking. contact kingdom aquarium for different spec and capacity.you can visit a feed mill that uses an extruder to find out hw it works
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:40pm On Oct 11, 2015
Sudirnge1:
pls what is the importance of Dcp in fish feed?
It also makes the bone stronger

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Sudirnge1(f): 10:07pm On Oct 11, 2015
Teepompey:

It helps boost their immune system, support normal growth and development.
tnx alot im oliver twistooo pls i want ask the implication of using too little molases e.g using 1kg insted of 5kg.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by atanda2001uk(m): 1:24am On Oct 12, 2015
@ Teepompey.
Do you have any feed formula you are using from where you want to reduce the ingredient? Let us see the formula so that you can be advised better. I think it is better that way.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by atanda2001uk(m): 2:20am On Oct 12, 2015
Hi People from Ibadan.
How much are the following feeds currently sold : Coppens 0.5mm, 0.8mm, 1.2mm and 1.5mm? Thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by manya(m): 6:52am On Oct 12, 2015
I am just surprised please.
the gurus in the house who are just talking about feed formula and ingredients, how do you make the feed? with which machine?
please if you have a way of making it kindly help explain to me. Or don't you care about floating?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Teepompey: 7:56am On Oct 12, 2015
Sudirnge1:
tnx alot im oliver twistooo pls i want ask the implication of using too little molases e.g using 1kg insted of 5kg.
Molasses is a binding agent, anti-dust agent and palatability enhancer. It's also a source of energy. By implication, the feed will not stick together during the pelleting process thereby making the pellets break down during transportation or handling and there will be more dust in the feed. Also, the diet may not be balanced if it's expected to serve as source of energy in the diet.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Sudirnge1(f): 1:30pm On Oct 12, 2015
Teepompey:

Molasses is a binding agent, anti-dust agent and palatability enhancer. It's also a source of energy. By implication, the feed will not stick together during the pelleting process thereby making the pellets break down during transportation or handling and there will be more dust in the feed. Also, the diet may not be balanced if it's expected to serve as source of energy in the diet.
tnx my boss, can i use flour to suplement for the short fall of the molases?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by atanda2001uk(m): 1:52pm On Oct 12, 2015
@sudirnge1.
Why do you have to substitute an ingredient of low cost for a costlier one. Flour is costlier than molasses. Or, do you have access to flour free of charge? I am sorry Teepompey, I directed my earlier post to you. The post was meant for Sudirnge1. Post the formula you want to use and let experts in the house help you. You will be better informed. Or, are you one those people that do hide feed formula from other people's benefits? Lol. Do not mind me my sister. By doing this, someone like me who likes playing with feed formula, like my Oga Ab1x, will also benefit. Thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by sham2007: 2:39pm On Oct 12, 2015
hello house, what is the cause of fish turning white and how can it be treated, thye are in an earthen pond sirs.

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