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Patchesagain:
light
air-mobile
maneuverable
low-battlefeild signature
heavily armed

Henry120:
So, this, as well as Nigerian Army Panhard VBL are Special forces vehicles?

Patchesagain:
no

It is not light
its is not air-mobile (cant para-drop them)
It is not maneuverable (in comparison)
It does not have a small battlefeild signature
it is not heavily armed (one HMG v HMG + multiple GPMG's)

Not to mention poor situational awareness

Patchesagain:
Nice photo

But what does it prove?

O, nothing

Patchesagain:
Nice photo

But what does it prove?

O, nothing

Patchesagain:
LOL

Henry120 I though that someone like you, who has such a boner for Russia would know what the term "Spetznaz" is.

FSB =/= Military

Uniformed pleb, would you like an education?

Henry120:
Are you saying you, an civilian with no prior military training and or experience is right, while the world's 2nd best and largest military with over 500 years battlefield experience is wrong?

Patchesagain:
Nice photo

But what does it prove?

O, nothing

Patchesagain:
You have yet to prove that the vehical is in use with SF or SOF
When you do so we can discuss, until then.... jog on self-service.er

Henry120:
...... Spetznaz, Alpa group, an elite Counter-terror/ Covert/ Special mission unit much in the fold as US navy seal team six.

Patchesagain:
You have yet to prove that the vehical is in use with SF or SOF
When you do so we can discuss, until then.... jog on self-service.er

Henry120:
The photo proves it's a special mission vehicle.


[s] As Specnaz is a Russian term it is typically associated with
the special forces units of Russia, however other post-Soviet
states often refer to their special forces by the term as well,
having themselves inherited their special purpose units
from the now defunct Soviet security agencies. The 5th
Specnaz Brigade of Belarus or the Alpha group of the
Security Service of Ukraine are both such examples of non-
Russian Spetsnaz forces.[/s]

Patchesagain:
1. Saying "spetznaz" in Russian means the exact same thing as saying Special forces in English, its a generic term for any kind "Special Purpose" unit. Russian federation does not operate a SINGLE "Spetsnaz" unit.

2. Alpha Group belongs to the FSB (Federal Security Service) and they are a STRICTLY Counter-Terrorism unit. This makes them SOF and not SF. They are more akin to FBI HRT teams or fvcking LAPD SWAT you ignorant fvcking Arrow.

So, well done on:

1. Not posting an SF vehical in use by an SF unit
2. Illistrating your complete fvcking ignorance of not only what "spetznas" means but also its composition.

Henry120:
It proves everything. Russian Special forces use vehicles that are similar to the VBL ( which is a Special forces vehicle by the way) and Otokar Cobra.

Henry120:
You are cursing, same time contradicting yourself.

Patchesagain:
Special mission vehicle for URBAN COUNTER-TERRORISM a.k.a: Hostage Rescue/High Level arrests

Henry120:
Are you saying Russian special forces are wrong and you, a civilian, is right?

Henry120:
Is it a Special mission vehicle used by special forces or not?

Patchesagain:
Do you have autism?
It is a vehical in use with SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES
SF =/= SOF

Patchesagain:
You have yet to prove that the vehical is in use with SF or SOF
When you do so we can discuss, until then.... jog on self-service.er

Henry120:
Patrick, why are you contradicting yourself?

Henry120:
So, this, as well as Nigerian Army Panhard VBL are Special forces vehicles?

Patchesagain:
I am not contradicting myself

I am talking about 2 different pictures with two different vehicals.

Now, stop trying to avoid dealing with the content of my argument and come at me... if you continue with schoolboy antics and your truly pathetic critical argument then I am going to leave because this is a massive waste of my time.

Henry120:
You don't want to answer why you are contradicting your own comments?

FighterPilot:
Hornets were deployed on Bangui dammy.

http://beta.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-deadly-car-battle-unfolded-1493841

lionel4power:
[size=20pt] Now my point is buttressed. you just killed yourself by your own post[/size]
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your link

[size=20pt]The combined force was, however, too small to hold, despite firing ripples of 107mm rockets directly into the advancing enemy, and was repeatedly enveloped. By about 6.30pm the fighting had moved into the suburbs, and they were ordered to fall back into the base. They had by then suffered several wounded, and many of the Hornets were running on rims, their tyres long since shot flat.[/size]

[size=20pt]the hornet was useless in actual battle[/size]

[size=20pt]throw your hornets in the sewer and come to Nigeria my boy... free lessons for you... just say please[/size]

Patchesagain:
Yes, one hornet with an MRLS system was useless against 1000's of attackers

Small ammounts of things get overwhelmed by big ammounts of things in combat

What an exellent point!!

Patchesagain:
Yes, one hornet with an MRLS system was useless against 1000's of attackers

Small ammounts of things get overwhelmed by big ammounts of things in combat

What an exellent point!!

lionel4power:
-- what is the outcome of the battle?

-- you lost

-- you took four 4X4 trucks which survived the onslaught yet your hornet was made immobile

-- hornet was useless

-- maximum firepower did not save you.. the opponent didnt have such firepower

-- your special forces flopped as usual

-- what is your argument now?

FighterPilot:
By using the word recconaissance you have already compromised your argument because there is only one division in the armed forces trained to carry out recce duties and that's special forces.

That vehicle can also be dropped down the plane with a parachute, something which ordinary soldiers cannot do or even Nigerian special forces cannot do. Lol!!

Hornet is a rapid deployment vehicle which can only tell you that no ordinary forces utilise rapid deployment vehicles but only special forces. Fake military researcher.


YOU LOSE!!!

FighterPilot:
Seleka Rebels involved over 3000 men to sweep the government of Bozize out of power by force. Djotodia would have never risk to face CAR government troops on the capital Bangui with only 1000 men. He made admission that he had another 3000 men who would have faced SA troops if need be.