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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Nobody: 5:51pm On Oct 14, 2015
bokohalal:
I am beginning to think that some people start tribal threads in order to insult Edo people.
No where here and anywhere else have you seen Edos claiming anybody. Rather, it has been the other way round. Why then do the Edos have to suffer from the another person's history? Leave us alone! If Jukuns say that they are Edos, leave them alone! If Efiks are Igbos, good for them! Leave Edos alone!

Simply warn your Edo folks to cease creating useless threads on NL to insult the Igbos. Tell them to respect themselves and stop seeking unnecessary attention by accusing Igbos of claiming Edoid groups.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by tsdarkside(m): 5:51pm On Oct 14, 2015
onenaira3:


See this f00l URHOBO WAS NEVER PART OF BIAFRA because they were never wanted and still don't. Always the rejected ones are the ones constantly disturbing ppl and whining left and right. The f2k.

They walked past urhobo territory on their way to Lagos..the same way they walked past anioma territory as well. It like my @ss claiming ojukwu included anioma in Biafra because they walked through asaba, ogwashi and co. The f2k kind of stupidity are some of una eating.

Heck Biafra is not even the conversation talkless of f2king urhobo. Go seek attention somewhere else since na attention seeking LovePeddler you be and don't disturb me again.

that is a giant lie.....they created a vassal country,as the urhobos and ijaws gave them too much pepper,,,,... grin grin grin grin
beware of the urhobos,we dont tolerate bulllshit....we are area!!! grin grin grin grin
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by kingzizzy: 5:54pm On Oct 14, 2015
bokohalal:

You are mistaken as to my belief. I only punctured your argument with superior and logical ones.
We did not bear surnames before Europeans came to Africa. An Ateke-Tom is a recent entry into African culture. It does not determine heritage.
Many RETURNEES ended up answering the names of places they were residents of. An IDEMUDIA-COLE could have originally been Fante.
A cursory check of the names of Obis in Delta would reveal lot of Edo names until recently. Why did they not continue to use the Edo names?
Your surname as an alpha answer to heritage is illogical.


We did not not have surnames in Africa before the White man came? Who told you this? Olauda Equiano was born in Isi-Eke in present day Anambra state in 1745. He was sold into slavery in 1756. He later wrote a book called 'The interesting narrative of Olauda Equiano' in which he talked about Igbo culture and how important the last name or family name is to differentiate between family branches. In 1798 when EquIano wrote his book, the White man was still trading and buying slaves on the coast and had not even come inland to what would later be Nigeria. Igbos have always had surnames long before the White man came to West-Africa.

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Kagawa10: 5:59pm On Oct 14, 2015
onenaira3:


See this f00l URHOBO WAS NEVER PART OF BIAFRA because they were never wanted and still don't. Always the rejected ones are the ones constantly disturbing ppl and whining left and right. The f2k.

They walked past urhobo territory on their way to Lagos..the same way they walked past anioma territory as well. It like my @ss claiming ojukwu included anioma in Biafra because they walked through asaba, ogwashi and co. The f2k kind of stupidity are some of una eating.

Heck Biafra is not even the conversation talkless of f2king urhobo. Go seek attention somewhere else since na attention seeking wh0re you be and don't disturb me again.
And then journeyed through Benin to Ore! Lol!
Why didn't the biafra proceed directly to Benin after they got to Asaba OR proceed directly to Ore if they were to invade the Urhobo part of Delta?
Yeye people bin thinking we be mumu like them!
Bunch of losers!

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by tsdarkside(m): 6:00pm On Oct 14, 2015
kingzizzy:



We did not not have surnames in Africa before the White man came? Who told you this? Olauda Equiano was born in Isi-Eke in present day Anambra state in 1745. He was sold into slavery in 1756. He later wrote a book called 'The interesting narrative of Olauda Equiano' in which he talked about Igbo culture and how important the last name or family name is to differentiate between family branches. In 1798 when EquIano wrote his book, the White man was still trading and buying slaves on the coast and had not even come inland to what would later be Nigeria. Igbos have always had surnames long before the White man came to West-Africa.

we should avoid mentioning that white devil,the devil can not beat us in a fair fight..............africa in that time had enough warriors to have droving the entire white-devils-regiments back in the ocean and even march till the front gates of paris..our problem is communicating with each other.......

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by bokohalal(m): 6:02pm On Oct 14, 2015
kingzizzy:



We did not not have surnames in Africa before the White man came? Who told you this? Olauda Equiano was born in Isi-Eke in present day Anambra state in 1745. He was sold into slavery in 1756. He later wrote a book called 'The interesting narrative of Olauda Equiano' in which he talked about Igbo culture and how important the last name or family name is to differentiate between family branches. In 1798 when EquIano wrote his book, the White man was still trading and buying slaves on the coast and had not even come inland to what would later be Nigeria. Igbos have always had surnames long before the White man came to West-Africa.
You are dense. Actually, you are denser, with this argument
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by onenaira3: 6:02pm On Oct 14, 2015
bokohalal:


I am beginning to think that some people start tribal threads in order to insult Edo people.
No where here and anywhere else have you seen Edos claiming anybody. Rather, it has been the other way round. Why then do the Edos have to suffer from the another person's history? Leave us alone! If Jukuns say that they are Edos, leave them alone! If Efiks are Igbos, good for them! Leave Edos alone!

Then tell your bros to stop starting threads that would end up insulting una.

As for the bold, tell that to SE, not us from anioma. We know una, we deal with una distortion every time. I honestly don't blame una, the people I blame is our ancestors for not kicking you nigg@s out after defeating una invasions. I honestly don't blame you, I blame them.

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Kagawa10: 6:06pm On Oct 14, 2015
xtrorse:


Simply warn your Edo folks to cease creating useless threads on NL to insult the Igbos. Tell them to respect themselves and stop seeking unnecessary attention by accusing Igbos of claiming Edoid groups.

Mumu! No one is insulting anyone here!
What people are doing is championing peoples' self determination!
Don't you have some post to copy and paste at the moment?
Yeye!

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by HopeAtHand: 6:10pm On Oct 14, 2015
Eastlink:
Ikwerre told their story my foot. Who told which story. Is it the useless story told by few men under duress for political gains and spread to younger ones in order to continue the cycle. But thank God that fake story stayed with areas like your community and not the whole of Ikwerreland. At least families like that of the Uche Okwukwu's, the Wonwu's and my in laws from Igirinta didn't buy that Edo nonsense.



On the contrary, the Uche Okwukwu's, the Wonwus and most assuredly your inlaw are claiming to be Igbos for the selfish personal interests..

The general consensus is Supreme over the selfish interest of your associates.

In any case, if they so love to be Igbo, they should move east into Igboland..they won't be missed.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Kagawa10: 6:11pm On Oct 14, 2015
onenaira3:


Then tell your bros to stop starting threads that would end up insulting una.

As for the bold, tell that to SE, not us from anioma. We know una, we deal with una distortion every time. I honestly don't blame una, the people I blame is our ancestors for not kicking you nigg@s out after defeating una invasions. I honestly don't blame you, I blame them.
There's no problem in telling the truth as it is!
Threads like this are always bound to exist! if you don't like the truth, go and jump into the lagoon!

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by onenaira3: 6:14pm On Oct 14, 2015
Kagawa10:

The moment you implied that the whole anioma has an ibo ancestry!
Now tell me, is eka/agbor an ibo word?

OMFG..dude GET A BRAIN TRANSPLANT. I'll keep saying this because you are the dumbest DUMBEST person I've ever met in my entire life.

First the word is IKA. Ika was first associated as eka by Isidore, a Benin writer, you fucking buf00n and till date it still not being used. The correct term is ika you dimwit.
Second IKA is an entire territory which consist of different communities. Agbor does not equal ika and ika does not equal agbor. Agbor is one community in ika you dimwit.
Lastly, go back to my post with agbor dein post and read.

After doing so, don't disturb me again with you illiterate rant unless you have something intelligent to contribute. I literally rather talk to a virus than you cause honestly even a virus have more brain cells and more intelligent than you.

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by onenaira3: 6:18pm On Oct 14, 2015
Eastlink:
You guys better watch out. As for me I have long debunked that Benin migration nonsense from the psyche of my Ogba cousins. Even the Benin ancestral lies is gradually dying in Omoku the same way it did pre-civil war.

It's been dying for awhile now. The denial used to be higher in the past than it is now at least for anioma. Idk about rivers Igbo.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Eastlink(m): 6:20pm On Oct 14, 2015
SupremeXYZ:
please what are you talking about?.Please Onenaira3,Eastlink,etc,warn your brother.I won't take this trash from him again.Ami ndo atai eyen Ibibio.All of you knows NDPVF.I won't take it lightly with him again.WE HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH ANY USELESS BINI TRIBE/KINGDOM WHATSOEVER!.

Anybody or publication liking us to Bini must be mad and useless.Therefore,discard such publication.Thanks.
All I saw was sarcasm, nothing to worry about. Although he has taken note.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Eastlink(m): 6:23pm On Oct 14, 2015
onenaira3:


It's been dying for awhile now. The denial used to be higher in the past than it is now at least for anioma. Idk about rivers Igbo.
We know the truth, but it's only those with sinister motive that keep clinging to that Edo heritage.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Nobody: 6:25pm On Oct 14, 2015
Kagawa10:

Mumu! No one is insulting anyone here!
What people are doing is championing peoples' self determination!
Don't you have some post to copy and paste at the moment?
Yeye!

Frustrated Yorrobber clown and specialist in evil concoctions, you can keep on whining, weeping and wailing in perpetuity...
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by CSTR2: 6:27pm On Oct 14, 2015
Enahi:


If you are conversant with history, I am sure you know what owners or founders of territory is. Just like the history of other States we have people who settled in those States before others migrated there.

The Igbo people will still be treated as one just like what obtains in other countries of the world, but they will now be identified as Biafrans and no longer Delta igbos. They will have to have a passport for identification.
Founders of the territory?
lol. You still have not answered my question.
Who are the founders of ikaland, oshimililand, ikwerreland,e.t.c.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by AreaFada2: 6:33pm On Oct 14, 2015
bokohalal:


How did you know that I did not want to mention how late Western education got to Bini people due to British discriminatory policy against them? Wow!
Actually very well-known to hobby historians and enthusiasts.


There were many other schemes. In 1914, Ado-Akure people in Eastern Yorubaland were refused journey to Benin to offer tribute to Oba Eweka II upon coronation. That had been the tradition for centuries. That was to cut off ties with kilt and kin outside core Benin area.


Whereas it was normal to chose the Iyase (traditional prime minister) of Benin from Akure, Brass or other areas with Benin descent people. Okoro-Otun and Otokiti come to mind as previous Iyase. This ensured Iyase's independence from the elite/chiefs and dukes and he represented ordinary Benin people before the king.

Anyhow, in keeping with that tradition, the current Iyase is of Urhobo extraction. People fail to realise just how sophisticated and balanced ancient Benin politics was.

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Eastlink(m): 6:43pm On Oct 14, 2015
HopeAtHand:




On the contrary, the Uche Okwukwu's, the Wonwus and most assuredly your inlaw are claiming to be Igbos for the selfish personal interests..

The general consensus is Supreme over the selfish interest of your associates.

In any case, if they so love to be Igbo, they should move east into Igboland..they won't be missed.
Most times your comments puts you into silly trouble than you can ever imagine. I hate it when someone claims to be something, yet they keep making silly mistake. Wokem nye nga o ka ibu (speaking in Ikwerre), where did you say you came from again because my Emohua peeps are smart and hardly make such silly blunder. Be consistent wokem if you wanna chat intellectually with wene gi. Where are they located if not East. Apart from Ogoniland and Ijawland which neighbouring ethnic group stay close to them, if not the Igboid tribes. Maybe you are the only one around who see them in the West. Put on your glasses and tell me what you see. They are already in the EAST and nobody born of a woman can relocate them from that place.

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Kagawa10: 6:46pm On Oct 14, 2015
onenaira3:


OMFG..dude GET A BRAIN TRANSPLANT. I'll keep saying this because you are the dumbest DUMBEST person I've ever met in my entire life.

First the word is IKA. Ika was first associated as eka by Isidore, a Benin writer, you fucking buf00n and till date it still not being used. The correct term is ika you dimwit.
Second IKA is an entire territory which consist of different communities. Agbor does not equal ika and ika does not equal agbor. Agbor is one community in ika you dimwit.
Lastly, go back to my post with agbor dein post and read.

After doing so, don't disturb me again with you illiterate rant unless you have something intelligent to contribute. I literally rather talk to a virus than you cause honestly even [s]a virus have more brain cells and more intelligent than you.[/s] a virus is likely to have brain cells which you do not have!
Because a virus has no cell whatsoever! Lol!
Prior to colonisation, the word was pronounced Eka before the British came and pronounced it Ika with their accent!
Whether ika or eka, none has ibo meaning!
I asked you earlier and will ask again, does the dein of Agbor put on ibo traditional attires or the bini's? How about the various areas in Agbor with bini names?
Yeye!
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by atlwireles: 6:48pm On Oct 14, 2015
AreaFada2:


FYI,

The Edos are not forcing anyone to be part of them. Edo History, culture & civilastion is well known worldwide, perhaps one of the best known in Sub-Saharan Africa.
But people can chose to twist history if they wish.

Having lost the war against the British in 1897, Benin people accepted their fate of losing empire.

Upon restoration of the Monarchy 1914, Benin people accepted to end claims to territories/vassal lands in Eastern Yorubaland & Delta/Western Iboland, etc.

Benin people have moved on. So nobody should be stuck in the past.

Anyone can claim to have come from Mars originally it makes them happy.
grin cheesy

Excellent comment cool cool cool cool

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad.
Aldous Huxley
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Eastlink(m): 6:54pm On Oct 14, 2015
atlwireles:

Excellent comment cool cool cool cool
You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley
Objective comment.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by HopeAtHand: 6:59pm On Oct 14, 2015
Eastlink:
Most times your comments puts you into silly trouble than you can ever imagine. I hate it when someone claims to be something, yet they keep making silly mistake. Wokem nye nga o ka ibu (speaking in Ikwerre), where did you say you came from again because my Emohua peeps are smart and hardly make such silly blunder. Be consistent wokem if you wanna chat intellectually with wene gi. Where are they located if not East. Apart from Ogoniland and Ijawland which neighbouring ethnic group stay close to them, if not the Igboid tribes. Maybe you are the only one around who see them in the West. Put on your glasses and tell me what you see. They are already in the EAST and nobody born of a woman can relocate them from that place.

Dont act like you dnt know that in Nigeria the East is the 5 South East states..

Your inlaws an associates if found to be acting detrimental to our common cause will be gladly dumped into Igboland.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by bofoy(m): 7:03pm On Oct 14, 2015
Ugomba:
are you an efik or ibibio? Why claiming them?
There is a newspaper article where the Efik and Ibibio people identified their ancestry to Benin.. Your women style of dressing is copied from Benin..
The Name Efik means Son Of Water in Bini Language..
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by bofoy(m): 7:05pm On Oct 14, 2015
Ugomba:
are you an efik or ibibio? Why claiming them?
There is a newspaper article where the Efik and Ibibio people identified their ancestry to Benin.. Your women style of dressing is copied from Benin..
The Name Efik means Son Of Water in Bini Language..
may for talking what u don'
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Eastlink(m): 7:09pm On Oct 14, 2015
HopeAtHand:


Dont act like you dnt know that in Nigeria the East is the 5 South East states..

Your inlaws an associates if found to be acting detrimental to our common cause will be gladly dumped into Igboland.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Eastlink(m): 7:10pm On Oct 14, 2015
HopeAtHand:


Dont act like you dnt know that in Nigeria the East is the 5 South East states..

Your inlaws an associates if found to be acting detrimental to our common cause will be gladly dumped into Igboland.
Hahahaha! Very funny. Stop playing with sarcasm it doesn't fit your style.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by Ugomba(m): 7:11pm On Oct 14, 2015
bofoy:
its sarcasm you fool! Can't you get a joke! Now go and modify your post.
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by onenaira3: 7:23pm On Oct 14, 2015
Kagawa10:

Because a virus has no cell whatsoever! Lol!
Prior to colonisation, the word was pronounced Eka before the British came and pronounced it Ika with their accent!
Whether ika or eka, none has ibo meaning!
I asked you earlier and will ask again, does the dein of Agbor put on ibo traditional attires or the bini's? How about the various areas in Agbor with bini names?
Yeye!

Virus is a cell itself you dimwit. I'm not even going to start teaching biology to you. Common English is hard for you sef.

I'll make this as simple as I can make it. EKA was never used in the past. The word ika came out when aniocha, oshmili, etc came and it is a term used to associate communities near each other.

AGBOR..........IS........NOT.......IKA ONLY. Does that get in or do I need to simplify it some more so your retarded brain can get it. Agbor is one community in ika land. Actually let me use picture cause people like you don't know how to read

You see in that pic where it said ika north east, ika south.. Yes well agbor is ONE group in ika spefically south. There are several more beside agbor is both territory u hear? If you need the names I can name them for you. Therefore so refer back to the capitalized word.

Secondly which are the areas of agbor with Bini words?

In fact, let me requote dein idwue

Language: Agbor spoke the ika dialect akin to other Igbo tongues, but the special vehile of the ika culture end image. It is distinct and dissimilar from Edo language and vice versa, even though some say that Agbor was once under the Oba’s rule. This was so because Benin was the first to acquire firearms from the Portuguese, and with which they terrorized the neighboring states. But this state of affairs lasted for only a short: Agbor liberated themselves before the 18th century. “Oru asuw Igbo; Igbo asuw Ika”: Agbor appears to be the credits of the Ika dialect and the citadel of Igbo heroes.


Chief A.G.Idwue
Dein of Agbor
Agbor-Obi 1979

Not surprise how your illiterate @ss thinks ukwuani is Edo. You are a complete buf00n. A fool

Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by onenaira3: 7:33pm On Oct 14, 2015
Kagawa10:

Because a virus has no cell whatsoever! Lol!
Prior to colonisation, the word was pronounced Eka before the British came and pronounced it Ika with their accent!
Whether ika or eka, none has ibo meaning!
I asked you earlier and will ask again, does the dein of Agbor put on ibo traditional attires or the bini's? How about the various areas in Agbor with bini names?
Yeye!

Since your illiterate @sses thinks attire now talks of origin. Let me ask you..wtf do you think your talking about?

Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by bofoy(m): 7:34pm On Oct 14, 2015
Ugomba:
its sarcasm you fool! Can't you get a joke! Now go and modify your post.
sorry now i understand but don't talk that way
Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by onenaira3: 7:37pm On Oct 14, 2015
Kagawa10:

Because a virus has no cell whatsoever! Lol!
Prior to colonisation, the word was pronounced Eka before the British came and pronounced it Ika with their accent!
Whether ika or eka, none has ibo meaning!
I asked you earlier and will ask again, does the dein of Agbor put on ibo traditional attires or the bini's? How about the various areas in Agbor with bini names?
Yeye!

The pictures are pics of dein of agbor, obi of onitsha, asagba of asaba, obi of ogwashi uku and obi of NRI and finally oba of Benin so in your illiterate head, wtf did you think you were saying?

Tufiakwa you're dumber than dumb

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Re: Ikwerre, Ukwuanni, Ika, Ahoada And Ekpeye Are Not Igbo But Edo by tonychristopher: 7:38pm On Oct 14, 2015
HopeAtHand:


Everyone tells his story.You cant tell yours and tell mine aswell..it is not acceptable.

Ikwerres have told the story of their origin, and the reason for the assumed similarity between them and Igbos..because Igbos arent comfortable with Ikwerre history that clearly and truthfully explain the situation of things, they now resort to insults on Ikwerres.

Ikwerres do not care how the Igbos feel about our documented history..We will stick with our history and proudly restate it over again when necessary...Igbos shouldn't waste time and energy bothering over issues beyond them.

Ikwerre remain neighbours with Igbos, neighbours courtesy of migration..aside that, nothing else.

Hope is at hand.

CC:Igboprince, macelliot, meccuno, cheruv, kingzizzy, warrior01, and the certified clown(tonychristopher)

Don't use our use I because your not a spokesman


Where is ezepromoe.. Your brother is losing it again


Agwu

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