osile2012:




Lol i guess your astronomy also told you whats keeps the skies separated from the ground,

or what keeps the water separated from land

or what happens the the seed that goes into the ground and reproduces or how a single sperm become a human being in 9 months.

Are you in control of how much traffic will be on the road from point a to point be or what happens the next second?

What if the building your typing from collapses now on you, are you still in control ?

Are you also in control of what happens between the time u sleep and wake up in the morning ? Since your in control, you should be able to predict precisely how long you will live on this earth. Since you have it all worked out.

How come as a master you did not decide to be born into the family of bill gates ? or choose which country your born into ?Since have always been in control Or someone else was in control till you were born and handed the steering over to u completely?

dalaman:


You don't think, you only regurgitate that which you have been indoctrinated with since childhood and the indoctrination that has turned out to be your reality because you have been conditioned to see things through that bubble. You are a christian only because you were born into the religion or you live in a culture surrounded by christians. If you were born into a Shite muslim family in Iran, you'll be telling us how there is No God but Allah and how Shite Islam is the only true sect of Islam. Your evidence for Jesus is stories written inside story book whose authors remain unknown and you want me to take you seriously? Egyptian Kings that lived thousand of year before Jesus still have their pyramids, paintings and bust surviving till this day, some of their corpse and burial chambers are still available till this day and all the evidence to show that the alleged creator of the universe came and dwell with men is ancient stories written by unknown authors? You have tired, well done. By the way many Jews have shown over and over that the passages in the Hebrew bible do not refer to any Jesus. They have shown that christains are lying when they claim that the passages in the Hebrew bible refer to Jesus. I don't even care about it, to me it is just stories and that is all there is to it. Jesus never wrote down anything about himself so why should I believe in stories that were written 40-100 years about him after he died by unknown writers?





I don't care what you think about me or any other atheist, I am not an atheist because I am frustrated, I am actually living a more fulfilled life than many religious people I know, just as there are some religious people that are living happier and more fulfilled lives than me. There is no evidence what so ever to show that religious people are living a more fulfilled life than non religious people. We are all struggling in one way or the other. Just name any atheist here that says he is an atheist because he is frustrated and doesn't want to to be accountable or remain a liar.



The God idea you believe in did not create the universe. We both don't know how the universe came about, while I readily admit that I do not know, you on the other hand have been indoctrinated to accept the God idea that some ancient Jewish men sat down and created and assigned the existence of the universe to him. They even wrote some mythical account in the book of genesis supposedly on how he created the universe in it they wrote down he created the earth before he created the sun and stars. The big bang as scientist put it does not talk about anything banging, it only talks about how a cosmic singularity expanded. I do not even subscribe to it, every body has his postulations, while the scientist observe and make their postulations, you on the other hand just sit down and accept the postulations and mythology of ancient Jews who thought there is a firmament that separates the waters above from the waters below, men who thought the sun moves round the earth. Your God remains only an idea that lives inside your head that is why you always have to speak and tell others about him, he can never do anything himself except in the pages of story books.






Just show me evidence that your God is real and Allah isn't. Is that too much to ask for from you?

winner01:
I wanted to reply all your crap but again you're not worth my reply nor my valuable time. Losers will always find a way to drag you down their shithole. Thank God for nairaland, your life would have been more miserable than it already is. Knock yourself out kid, this is your gateway to relevance.

dalaman:



Yeah, obvious myth. You just happen to be indoctrinated and accept the Jewish, Greek and Roman version out of the many other mythologies out there. Do you have a video recording of Jesus to show me that he ever existed? Do you have a picture of Jesus when he was walking the earth? Do you even have any writing from Jesus himself that mentions him any any of the claims about him? You have stories written about a guy which appeared about 40-90 years after he died, very contradictory stories whose authours remain unknown and you think it is somehow special because your land was conquered by men who happen to gain by spreading those mythical stories to you. Oduduwa is a mythical yoruba legend, many Yoruba's believe in his legendary tales, he has as much evidence to show that he existed just like your Jesus. Prove to me that he also never existed.



There are people that spend most of their time discussing politics and sports on nairaland, do they do that because they are disturbed. I know how you guys always appeal to emotions to make you feel bad, the OP on this thread just used some ridiculous emotional appeal until I called him out, the OP claimed that atheist here have stated that they are frustrated with life and don't want to be accountable that is why they are atheist, I challenged him to show one atheist on nairaland that has even stated that are he changed his tone and had to take his words back. I am here to challenge you guys based on your claims and see how true the measure up to the reality we all live in. So far you have constantly failed to show that what you believe in can stand the reality we see around us.



No, your God can not do anything that is why he relies on men to do everything for him, men had to write his religious books for him, sit down and vote on which books will be assembled into the final canon for him, chose and create all the doctrines for him, speak for him, build all the temples for him, fight all the wars for him, convert others for him, do everything for him, he has never been seen or shown to do anything for himself, he only comes down and do things like fight humans and kill them in the pages of story books that were written by humans but never in reality. There is no God, that is why you are speaking and talking on his behalf, what exist is people like you that believe and subscribe to what ever God idea they were born into and indoctrinated with.






Allah does not need to love any body, Allah is the most supreme being, humans are his slaves and he does not need to be in any loving relationship with anybody. He is not like your God that needs to kill himself and sacrifice himself unto himself because he wants to offer people salvation. Allah is not and can never be that weak. He simply is and that is all there is to it. There is no God except Allah. No prove to me that your God exist and Allah does not.

winner01:
Makes a whole lot of sense to me. if you werent so close minded, you'll see sense in it.

bytemeister:



reading ur post from the top I tot "dis is a free thinker" bt wen I got to d bottom of it I realised u're just another theist defendin his religion wereby bin biased....deres no proof watsoever dat neida d xtian nor d Muslim god exists,as a matter of fact Allah ain't any difrent to oda deities cos muhammad's granpa abd-mtalib was a known idolator a moon worshiper at dat , he named muhammad's father ABDULLAH meaning SLAVE OF ALLAH...Muslims are no beta dan dem traditional worshippers cos d moon is always involved in waheva dey do...lols bowing b4 it(salat) and al oda stuffs
p.s am nt atheistic just a curious mind

osile2012:


[size=18pt]If you dont get anything out of this thread, just know that you are now in between the start time and the end time of your life. What you do in between will determine your reward at the end. There is nothing as painful like failing an exam and knowing your failing.

It gets worse when you had an idea that the question your facing might come out and you chose not to prepare. I just hope you are not referred back to this thread when your rewarded at the end.

I trust you will make something out of this thread.

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winner01:
I wanted to reply all your crap but again you're not worth my reply nor my valuable time. Losers will always find a way to drag you down their shithole. Thank God for nairaland, your life would have been more miserable than it already is. Knock yourself out kid, this is your gateway to relevance.

dalaman:

Am an atheist.

osile2012:


[size=18pt]If i am correct, this section is for religion and not politics. And if we practiced our religion honestly, those issues your worried about in Nigeria would not be existent .[/size]

Ranchhoddas:
If this is all you could muster to all dalaman wrote up there then I regret ever talking to you.You are retar.ded bufoon that is not worth anyone's time.

dalaman:


I am not worth your reply or valuable time but you still took time to reply me. Crazy hypocrite. Go along and keep spreading the word of the God that lives in your head, the one that allegedly created the universe but still relies on failed humans like you to spread his message for him.

osile2012:
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When i see the so called atheists on Nairaland running around the threads to persuade people to believe there is no GOD, either because of some events that took place in their life that got them frustrated or the fact that they dont like the idea of being accountable, i laugh. Honestly, i sometimes wished there was no GOD and that there was no consequences for our actions. That once your dead it file is closed. That would have been fun to some extent, but then its the opposite. I know how frustrated it feels to be accountable, and not be in control of every circumstance around you. Its actually more difficult trying to convince yourself there is no GOD when the evidences stare you in the face daily.

I see how restless the so call atheists are on nairaland, trying to hijack every christian thread they see just to make them feel good. The seem to lack peace and uncertain about their believe, and constantly attack christian threads to convince themselves of their own believe. Are you not at peace with yourself knowing there is no GOD and no consequences for your actions? Why do you have to attack and hijack threads to prove your point?


I am sure your all saying in your mind how can you prove there is GOD and Judgement ?

The answer is simple. When you look at the end of every post or at the top of the page you are responding from, you will see a "DATE" there. Thats the evidence that there is GOD and we will answer for our actions whether we believe or not. "TIME" is the only evidence, and that is enough for any wise person.

One thing all humans use in life is "TIME", and whether you believe there is GOD or not, at-least you believe and use time.You celebrate your birthday with time, you tell your age with time, you go to work with time and close with time.

WHY TIME?

Time is a reminder from GOD to man that we will answer for our actions. Who set the time? If there was no GOD or judgement, why dont we live forever ?

There are 2 important aspects of time "START TIME" and "END TIME" . Both start time and end time are important, but what we are rewarded for is what happens in-between them.

An exam has a "start time" and "end Time" but whether you pass and promoted or demoted depends on what you did between the start time and end time.

A football match has a "start time" and "end time" but the winner is chosen by what they did between the times.

Our Jobs have start time and end time, we are paid for what we do in between the time.

The food we eat has a start time and end time, what happens between the time produces the result.

Now whoever sets the start time and end time of a program or activity determines the result .

If a school sets the start time and end time of an exam, they determine the result, based on the students performance in between the times.

An employer specifies the start time and end time of the employees and pays them based on their performance in between.

We as humans, whether we choose to believe in GOD or not, we have our "start time" and "end time" . We did not set the times, and we definitely will have to be rewarded by the one who set these times. Someone will say, what if i end my life, i have decided my end time . Well when a school set a start time and end time for an exam, and you decide not to write anything and submit your paper and leave the hall. The school will still determine what happens to you based on how u performed between their start time and the end time.

So whether you choose the believe in GOD and try to live right or you choose not to believe in GOD and live anyhow, your clock is ticking, your now in between your start and end time.

What you do in between will be rewarded by the one who set the time. Most of us stay glued to the TV screen when our favorite football teams are playing. The start time whistle goes off, and when the end time whistle blows, some people celebrate and hug themselves, while other cry. Both those who celebrate and cry, celebrate the reward of what happened in between the start and end.

Some will say, what if there is a draw at the end of the start and end time? Well unfortunately, this game called life is a final and can never end in draw. In finals, they play penalties until there is a winner and loser .

So anytime you feel proud and try to convince yourself that there is no GOD and o consequences for your actions? Look at you watch and see that time is still going on .

Those who claim there is no GOD are like employees who removed the battery from they clock with hope that they have stopped time. They dont go to work and give their employer an excuse that, their times stopped so they did not see the need to show up.

Even when your clock stops ticking, time is still going on. So even when you dont believe in GOD, you will still answer before him at the end of time.

So to the atheist, that have removed the battery of their clock and claim there is nothing like time anymore, you will still realize at your stop time that time was running all the while.

#HappySunday.






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winner01:
I didnt even waste my time reading it. If thats what makes sense to you, you both belong to the jungle. Real people communicate with the world and make things happen. Losers like you and your fellow reta*d should continue here and make yourselves feel relevant. Nairaland is the peak of all the rage you'll ever make. No one has the time to listen to pained failures.

winner01:
I replied you, and you should count that as a priviledge. I reiterate, you're just one of those jobless irrelevancies. Your words dont count and thats why you spend your life here talking about something that does not exist day in day out.
Yeah, God lives in my head, the same way He lived in the heads of great world changers. Pained b*tches like you will only wail till time runs out, that what you're good for. No one gives a hoot what you feel, except maybe your fellow reta*ds. Get a life.

dalaman:


You have no honor since you can't even keep to your word, you said I am not worth your time but you keep replying me. People that can't even keep to their words deserve no respect from anybody and you are one of them. You God doesn't exist if it pinches you so much that you are worshiping some idea that some people created then go hug a transformer.

You should dance at every word i type, you Dunce. You continuously show how slow you are.
My God dosent exist but nothing banged you into existence right?
I'm worshipping an idea (a non-existent idea), and you show this much concern day and night. Hit the streets, you're mad already.

winner01:
You should dance at every word i type, you Dunce. You continuously show how slow you are.
My God dosent exist but nothing banged you into existence right?
I'm worshipping an idea (a non-existent idea), and you show this much concern day and night. Hit the streets, you're mad already.

Chizzled06:


But time is an illusion. So "the end of time" cannot exist.

KingEbukasBlog:


Time being an illusion is a fantasy for people who think time travel is real . Maybe or maybe not

1. You are born (beginning ) , you get old , you die (end) . The period between those events is called what ? God was never born neither does He have an end .

2. If the future is predetermined , then we are living our lives through an already existing timeline of events . "An already existing timeline of events" - knowledge only which an all knowing/ always existing being possesses .

Chizzled06:


The passing of time varies depending on where you are in the universe. Have you ever heard of this phenomenon?

KingEbukasBlog:


Yup... when you are outside earth by a great distance , the present at that point is like the future here in respect to motion and all that .

Now look at the life of a biological cell and apply your time is an illusion theory

winner01:
I didnt even waste my time reading it. If thats what makes sense to you, you both belong to the jungle. Real people communicate with the world and make things happen. Losers like you and your fellow reta*d should continue here and make yourselves feel relevant. Nairaland is the peak of all the rage you'll ever make. No one has the time to listen to pained failures.

winner01:
I replied you, and you should count that as a priviledge. I reiterate, you're just one of those jobless irrelevancies. Your words dont count and thats why you spend your life here talking about something that does not exist day in day out.
Yeah, God lives in my head, the same way He lived in the heads of great world changers. Pained b*tches like you will only wail till time runs out, that what you're good for. No one gives a hoot what you feel, except maybe your fellow reta*ds. Get a life.

frank317:


Whew... U sound angry and frustrated man. What's really the matter? Shouldn't be this Gods fight and not urs? Why are u drinking panadol on top another persons headache?

We I some times understand ur frustration. You waste countless pages defending a supposedly existent and powerful being. Yet he is no where to be found. Yes, this really can be frustrating.

A creator whose creation doubts his existence... How did u find urself here? What form of insanity is this?

Whose headache, God fights for us but he quoted me you animal. I waste countless pages typing in religion section I believe in God thats why. Why are you on countless pages of the religion section are you enchanted? Must you be foolish simply because im replying another atheist. Did you even read the previous quotes. You people are just mad.
You dont believe in God, but its not enough that you dont believe, you need other people not to believe with you. I understand, this is the platform where you can make all the noise you'll ever make so Knock yourself out. But dont do it foolishly.

neocortex:


Why do you sound so bitter ?
Has life been so unfair to you ?
Don't worry , no one about to take away your last sanctuary(delusional beliefs).
I will only encourage you to ask questions, ignorance is not bliss.

winner01:
Whose headache, God fights for us but he quoted me you animal. I waste countless pages typing in religion section I believe in God thats why. Why are you on countless pages of the religion section are you enchanted? Must you be foolish simply because im replying another atheist. Did you even read the previous quotes. You people are just mad.
You dont believe in God, but its not enough that you dont believe, you need other people not to believe with you. I understand, this is the platform where you can make all the noise you'll ever make so Knock yourself out. But dont do it foolishly.

Chizzled06:


If two biological cells are in different parts of the universe, "time" passes at different rates for each one.

frank317:


Temper temper... Remember your loving kind and all powerful God will throw u into fire for cursing. Well, see u in hell bro.

frank317:


Well, I some times understand ur frustration. You waste countless pages defending a supposedly existent and powerful being. Yet he is no where to be found. Yes, this really can be frustrating.

A creator whose creation doubts his existence... How did u find urself here? What form of insanity is this?

osile2012:


When i see the so called atheists on Nairaland running around the threads to persuade people to believe there is no GOD, either because of some events that took place in their life that got them frustrated or the fact that they dont like the idea of being accountable, i laugh. Honestly, i sometimes wished there was no GOD and that there was no consequences for our actions. That once your dead it file is closed. That would have been fun to some extent, but then its the opposite. I know how frustrated it feels to be accountable, and not be in control of every circumstance around you. Its actually more difficult trying to convince yourself there is no GOD when the evidences stare you in the face daily.

I see how restless the so call atheists are on nairaland, trying to hijack every christian thread they see just to make them feel good. The seem to lack peace and uncertain about their believe, and constantly attack christian threads to convince themselves of their own believe. Are you not at peace with yourself knowing there is no GOD and no consequences for your actions? Why do you have to attack and hijack threads to prove your point?


I am sure your all saying in your mind how can you prove there is GOD and Judgement ?

The answer is simple. When you look at the end of every post or at the top of the page you are responding from, you will see a "DATE" there. Thats the evidence that there is GOD and we will answer for our actions whether we believe or not. "TIME" is the only evidence, and that is enough for any wise person.,





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osile2012:


[size=18pt]Object oriented programming you said


Its funny how children that are born yesterday wake up and want to challenge the GOD of creation based on the things he created. You can find GOD in every aspect of life. Dont even go there. GOD is the first programmer . We are just displaying part of the creative ability deposited in use because we were made after his likeness.

Life is a mystery to us, but it is GODs own program written by his words. You talk about object oriented programming.

You defined the classes in creation ?

Who defined solid and liquid classes ? Who defined the tree class, fruit class and all other classes? What about the sub-classes of animals ??

What about the variables of life ? What about the constants of life ? Dont you see Programming language of life all through the bible ?

Dont you see the conditional statements in the word of GOD? Why do you think we should read the bible to understand the code that runs in life ?

Was there anything like programming when God wrote this codes ?

Isa_1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

if(ye be willing and obedient){ye shall eat the good of the land}

Gen_8:22 While the earth remaineth, seed time and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

while(the earth remaineth){seed time and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease. }

Is that not a while loop and a conditional statement above mr programmer ??



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but how are you 100% sure that your God is for real

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osile2012:


[size=18pt]It is funny we expect a team to win at the end of a football match and be rewarded for what they did in between the start and end whistle.

We believe to be paid for the labour we put in from the start of the month and the end of the month in our job.

We believe we will be rewarded for what we wrote between the time our exam starts and ends in school.

But we dont believe we will be rewarded for the time we spent from the start to the end of our life
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