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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:06pm On Oct 23, 2015
ElFenomeno1:
Elampiro getting exposed!!!!! grin grin grin

This is a joke right?

The difference is that I was the first to name him a world class player. The rest before then were all permutations. UniqueGem and the rest were all making analysis of an unknown player. UniqueGem never knew Martial before I announced Martial. He said even though he didn't know him, he like anyone who could shoot.

But I was the first to say "Martial is in the league of Sterling, Arguero and Suarez" That was a midas touch.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:09pm On Oct 23, 2015
Nihilist:
So you can verify the authenticity of famous photograph? cheesy

More importantly, did Starboard and Nyabinghi know each other? Cos that beef na east coast- west coast....And I rep the west coast. grin grin
You don the find trouble now grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:09pm On Oct 23, 2015
elampiro:
Coogar.

Schweinsteiger had a negative rating. Which means his first half contribution was negative. He had the lowest rating.

Whoscored set everyone at 6.0 at kick off, as the opta data hitting the chart lives, the ratings keep fluctuating based on a players performance on the pitch.

But was Schweinsteiger really the worst player? I think not so. Lingard the worst followed by Rooney.

Whoscored rating experience:

6.0 or less =poor and even with critical errors.
6.0-6.9 =Average or poor
7.0-8.0= above average/good game
8.0-8.9= had a very good game.
9.0 - 10= Near excellent or excellent.

However, there might be marginal points between rages.
elampiro, stop trying to be clever by half. bastian played only 46 mins in the game. unless he scored or assisted, his points overall would be less than the players that played more minutes on the night. bastian's early bath was responsible for his low point.

however, rooney spent the most minutes on the night. lingard came off in the 80th minute & yet still had more overall point than rooney. it simply means rooney was animal-shyte throughout the game. had rooney come off when bastian came off, he woulda been rated less than 5.0

elampiro:
All these don't make sense at all. You brought posts when we were still analysing the guy. UniqueGem was not sure, he only wanted someone who could strike other than Rooney.
he was sure!
he knew martial would hit the ground running as soon as he replaces rooney in the #9 position & that was what happened exactly.

But once video was out, I stamped Martial and that was the beginning for everyone else.
liar!
the video came out on the 31st of august & adeyemi2015 was the first to declare martial a machine. as at then, you thought martial would make us regret selling welbeck.

elampawa, you have been thoroughly exposed as a white liar. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:10pm On Oct 23, 2015
parrotibaba:
You don the find trouble now grin grin
Are those shots being fired? cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 5:11pm On Oct 23, 2015
darefestus:
I think i read one of Debo's posts after Monaco beat the gayners where he said he loved the look of Martial and expected him to blow or smthing along that line.
That's great. If not for martial upfront, depay by now would have asked man u to add Sir to his name as the best player and ask LVG to give him rooney's captain's band. Martial made the best decision to join man utd sincerely. He is going to go places.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:11pm On Oct 23, 2015
elampiro:

This is a joke right?

The difference is that I was the first to name him a world class player. The rest before then were all permutations. UniqueGem and the rest were all making analysis of an unknown player. UniqueGem never knew Martial before I announced Martial. He said even though he didn't know him, he like anyone who could shoot.

But I was the first to say "Martial is in the league of Sterling, Arguero and Suarez" That was a midas touch.
Dude just free this, cos you know you will never win.

Can you give me some stats about your defence though? I have De Gea in my FPL team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:12pm On Oct 23, 2015
Leave story.
Me and nyabinghi are in good terms.
No fighting.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:13pm On Oct 23, 2015
Nihilist:
Are those shots being fired? cheesy cheesy
don't worry when he replies you, then you will know grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:13pm On Oct 23, 2015
parrotibaba:
@Elampiro do you think you are dealing with senile folks? You were one of the folks that were skeptical about the acquisition of Anthony Martial, even questioned his goals return. I think Elf n UniqueGem were the first to welcome his acquisition to the club, then I n others( n some Chelsea fans) who had seen him play were of the opinion that he will be a hit, hell I even did a comparison with him n Berainho after one Chelsea fan asked if he was even on par with Berainho. Our only problem was that his price tag was huge for a teenager.
You aren't being logical.

I analyzed his goals returns, I did not question or dismiss his goals returns.

The first time I saw his video, I approved him not just as a good player but as a world class player. This was even before he kicked a ball for us.

Again, this argument started when I said I was the first to announce his coming. They said it's a lie that I didn't want him because of Rooney. If I didn't want him, how come I put him in the light of Suarez and Aguero, players with striking ability better than Rooney?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:13pm On Oct 23, 2015
StarBoard:
Leave story. Me and nyabinghi are in good terms. No fighting.
Iffahear grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:14pm On Oct 23, 2015
StarBoard:
Leave story. Me and nyabinghi are in good terms. No fighting.
Iffahear grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:14pm On Oct 23, 2015
parrotibaba:
Iffahear grin
No fighting.
I have house fellowship right now
Then night vigil later.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:16pm On Oct 23, 2015

I stand my my words and they are the truth.

1. I was the first to announce we were buying Martial.

2. I was the first to put him along such big names as Suarez and Arguero. I also said he has dribbling ability of Sterling.

So how come I was accused I didn't want him to come because of Rooney. I endorsed him even before he played along side Rooney.



Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:18pm On Oct 23, 2015
elampiro:
You aren't being logical.

I analyzed his goals returns, I did not question or dismiss his goals returns.

The first time I saw his video, I approved him not just as a good player but as a world class player. This was even before he kicked a ball for us.

Again, this argument started when I said I was the first to announce his coming. They said it's a lie that I didn't want him because of Rooney. If I didn't want him, how come I put him in the light of Suarez and Aguero, players with striking ability better than Rooney?
can't you just let go? na so u me n you drag that our argument from February to September b4 you finally gree. You mustn't always win your arguments. In a court of law, the evidence stacked against you will send you to jail. From all indications, Adeyemi2015 was the first to approve Martial, EOD. Award no de this thing shey you know? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:19pm On Oct 23, 2015
coogar:
elampiro, stop trying to be clever by half. bastian played only 46 mins in the game. unless he scored or assisted, his points overall would be less than the players that played more minutes on the night. bastian's early bath was responsible for his low point.

however, rooney spent the most minutes on the night. lingard came off in the 80th minute & yet still had more overall point than rooney. it simply means rooney was animal-shyte throughout the game. had rooney come off when bastian came off, he woulda been rated less than 5.0



he was sure!
he knew martial would hit the ground running as soon as he replaces rooney in the #9 position & that was what happened exactly.



liar!
the video came out on the 31st of august & adeyemi2015 was the first to declare martial a machine. as at then, you thought martial would make us regret selling welbeck.

elampawa, you have been thoroughly exposed as a white liar. cheesy
You are a big liar.

5.9 is a negative Marking.

So till now you don't know how it works? If you play 1 minute you are expected to score 6.0 rating.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:19pm On Oct 23, 2015
StarBoard:
No fighting. I have house fellowship right now Then night vigil later.
grin grin

no be you just dissect Kolade grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:20pm On Oct 23, 2015
elampiro:

I stand my my words and they are the truth.

1. I was the first to announce we were buying Martial.

2. I was the first to put him along such big names as Suarez and Arguero. I also said he has dribbling ability of Sterling.

So how come I was accused I didn't want him to come because of Rooney. I endorsed him even before he played along side Rooney.

if that was the case, why did you say martial might make us regret selling welbeck? if eg bought aguero/suarez, would any of the duo have made us regret selling welbeck?

elampawa baba - you should be lying for nigerian politicians. with you doing PR for them, they would never face any sorta criticism. grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 5:20pm On Oct 23, 2015
Okay Elampiro. If i say you win, will you shut up and lets move on?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:22pm On Oct 23, 2015
StarBoard:
Leave story.
Me and nyabinghi are in good terms.
No fighting.
With your scatter scatter teeth like james bond bullet.... grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:23pm On Oct 23, 2015
elampiro:
You are a big liar.

5.9 is a negative Marking.

So till now you don't know how it works? If you play 1 minute you are expected to score 6.0 rating.
you are a tool!
if 6.0 is the minimum rating but you cop a yellow card, misplace passes, etc then it would go below 6.0

bastian never had the chance to redeem his poor first half in the second half like his fellow team mates. rooney at half time woulda had worse than 5.9 but he was able to cop few points here & there when united got on top of the game.

by then, bastian was already taking his bath!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:23pm On Oct 23, 2015
Meanwhile el jefe has hinted that he might do business in January.





"I have always preferred small
selections [squads]. I think I have the smallest
selection in the Premier League. Last season we
had 24 players.
"We sold 15 players and bought five players.
This year we have sold again or have loaned
players out. Ten players have gone and only six
players have been bought.
"I think 22 players and three goalkeepers is
enough so I am still one short."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:29pm On Oct 23, 2015
parrotibaba:
he has been exposed multiple times as a fraud in this thread, it's nothing new grin grin grin I expect him to try and wiggle his way out of this.
I know he'lll wriggle his way out of this. Elamps baba. Pace and pawa
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:30pm On Oct 23, 2015
6.0 is the kick off/start off for any player.

See Memphis that played for just 11 minutes has 6.2. Blind 28 minutes 6.19

It's not by length of play but by activities. Someone can play for 20 minutes and score 8.0. Someone else can play for 90 minutes and score 5.7

Score a goal = +1.0
Assist a goal about 0.5
Have an error leading to a goal 0.5-1.0 negative.

Dispossessed = negative.
missed a chance = negative.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:35pm On Oct 23, 2015
UniqueGem:
Okay Elampiro. If i say you win, will you shut up and lets move on?
You never know anything. ELampiro is just warming up

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:37pm On Oct 23, 2015
RE: LVG hinting at bringing someone in January

Mane please, stick him on the left and drop Rooney,he can give us that directness we sorely need, and he can actually beat his man, unlike our dutch gem.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:38pm On Oct 23, 2015
coogar:
you are a tool!
if 6.0 is the minimum rating but you cop a yellow card, misplace passes, etc then it would go below 6.0

bastian never had the chance to redeem his poor first half in the second half like his fellow team mates. rooney at half time woulda had worse than 5.9 but he was able to cop few points here & there when united got on top of the game.

by then, bastian was already taking his bath!
I am not blaming Schweinsteiger. You changed the argument. I said his rating ought to be above Lingard and Rooney but for some marginal points. So marginal points are inconsequential.

You cannot compare Valencia who rated 8.1 to Lingard who rated 6.0.

In my opinion 5.6 to 6.9 are in the same rage. But 8.1 is in a high performer rate, yet those kids said Lingard did better than Valencia. That was shocking for even mamaput to hear.

As for the rating, playing first half or full game has nothing to do. It's your activity. Schweinsteiger had a negative rating and that is it. I have seen Rafael, Jones, Fletcher left after 20 minutes of play and were rated above 6.0, 6.4 etc .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:40pm On Oct 23, 2015
UniqueGem:
Okay Elampiro. If i say you win, will you shut up and lets move on?
I always win. You don't need to say it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:42pm On Oct 23, 2015


The mistake I made was to say Rooney did not play well. You people should wait for me next time.

End of arguement.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:48pm On Oct 23, 2015
elampiro:
6.0 is the kick off/start off for any player.
See Memphis that played for just 11 minutes has 6.2. Blind 28 minutes 6.19
cos memphis did more positive things than negative & it was a time united were controlling the game so there's no biggie. blind also had more positives than negatives so his point was more than 6.0

It's not by length of play but by activities. Someone can play for 20 minutes and score 8.0. Someone else can play for 90 minutes and score 5.7
that is a lie!
if player A & player B contribute the same thing while A played more minutes than B then A will have the most points. stop lying to us. show us a situation where a first half substitute that scored a goal had more points than his teammate that also scored a goal but completed the whole game.

by then we would know if time spent on the pitch has more bearing on the points or not. you are having a debate with a scientific mind.....you are an arts student. i was only 13 when i started running hypotheses & making an inference via deductive reasoning.

Score a goal = +1.0
Assist a goal about 0.5
Have an error leading to a goal 0.5-1.0 negative.

Dispossessed = negative.
missed a chance = negative.
you are making my point!
so don't you think a player that played more games would have more time to achieve the positive things than the negative? so why won't the player with more minutes generally get the most points?

elampawa, do you use logic when arguing?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 5:50pm On Oct 23, 2015
raumdeuter:
As per all the posts and counter posts, Its not really about the age or how long the poster has been posting its about the quality of their posts.
Someone like elampiro even though he recently started posting in this section, He adds more value to sporting debates than many here. even Nihilist even though joined around the same time came with interesting football perspective and his opinions are well respected that I even tried to convince him to be a Bayern fan several times cheesy
This is first a Sport section and it helps if your posts is Sport related even if there is a diss to it at the end not just several lines of "you are stuppidd , you are madd you are a bastardd".
If you notice most who carry this diss and cussfest for head are those who have nothing to contribute to the football related discussion
Many people became friends from this thread/forum. Many people have helped one another in one way or the other. One of my closest pals I met on this forum as a Man utd fan, Tkb, Nyabinghi and Starboard I knew them even before coming to this forum, chamtex and lalaboy are friends and they probably met from here, Some people got admissions, advise on life issues from random people they met here.
There are some people on here that can really help you in life. I have referred someone to Ibime and Debo and they helped him with admissions into a foreign uni which changed his life.
So if you check your whole posts and you see that its more than 50% picking a fight and not really football discussions then you are mostly reducing the quality on here.
I hear say na Nyabinghi dey "squat" you for AWO hall that year. Na true??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:50pm On Oct 23, 2015
Nihilist:
With your scatter scatter teeth like james bond bullet.... grin
No comment grin
Me and nyabinghi are not quarreling anymore
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:51pm On Oct 23, 2015
darefestus:
Egbon Dayo, u people laid the foundation, and yes, no one likes to see insults about the place, but it also helps when people at least try to be reasonable even if they want to air their unpopular opinions.

Regarding 'advice on life issues', you remember one chat we had on YIM around 2008?
Sure I remember our chat in 2008 well. You were in UNAAB then right?
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