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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:17pm On Oct 24, 2015
Dadehmola:
No doubt about this...

The crux of the matter is the loop-sided nature /unreliability of Stats-driven punditry. Yeah, some Stats might tally with certain obvious facts/qualities of certain players. However, the inconsistencies associated with those stats during multiple comparisons have... & would always be an issue.

We have seen instances whereby a "top player" X is adjudged to be better than another "top player Y" by certain parameters, only for us to realize that one rookie Z is actually better than both players (judging by these same parameters)...making mockery of whatever debate going on.

For me, the round-leather game is too complex for stats to serve as a major tool when evaluating a player's qualities & performances. A Neural Network with different parameters (in their hundreds or thousands) may work better in players statistical analysis but for me, I'd rely more on what I see with my two korokoro eyes.



...and lampard shíts on zidane everyday of the week.
You've said it my big chairman.
Nothing more to add
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:22pm On Oct 24, 2015
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 2:24pm On Oct 24, 2015
grin
n0m0705:
grin my brother, believe me I know perfectly well what I am saying , I have been on this thread for about 3 years or thereabout so I am not generalising. For example, last season coogar was on jones and valencia case calling them shite and almost everybody here started calling them shite too, now coogar has toned down his criticism of valencia and the perception here has also changed. Not coogar's fault though( I think he will be a great sales man).
As for rooney, no doubt his performance has gone down since last season, IMO, but that can not take away his legendary status in football. no matter the criteria you want to use to judge, he is up there with the very best of his generation. The only dent on his career is the three lion performances in different competition s which is not his fault alone.
Okay na! If the guy na salesman then e be like say wetin him dey sell never reach my hand! Anyway for the avoidance of doubt, anyday me and you dey rap over "united matters" kindly use these MY government approved reasons about the following key man u players against me as you wish! I never fluctuate without just cause!

1: I believe "rooney" is in decline and should be benched even though I tipped him to score @ least 20 goals this season!

2: I have never truly liked "smalling" and I am actually impressed by his recent form but the beef still dey fire as far as his case is concerned!

3: Valencia is a terrible right back and average winger and I hope he is sold sooner rather than later! He is not united quality!

4: Carrick should be a permanent option from the bench or during carling cup games and desperate times! He is too lazy and addicted to safe passing options!

5: "Martial" to me is the best young striker between the 18 to 22 year old bracket on earth presently!

6: "marcus rojo" has been dissapointing for most of his man united career! But it seems he turned a corner against everton! I still doubt him!

7; "phil jones" is not very smart at defending or tackling and i hope we sign a quality defender soon to partner a developing smalling!

8: I never comment on "fellaini"!

9: "De gea" is still the man!

10: I still don't understand "van gaals" philosophy!

Now feel free to compare and contrast my views with those of our fellow CULT MEMBERS @ anytime you feel the urge! Lmfao!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 2:25pm On Oct 24, 2015
@Aareonakakanfo
cheesy grin
Mad man

Wish to use that gif on chelshit thread today grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 2:28pm On Oct 24, 2015
I don't get this "following coogar" of a thing. The other time it was a shekpe dingbat with that ridiculous generalization, WTF is all this? That the majority of ppl agree that Rooney or Jones or Valencia(in some cases) are not up to scratch doesn't mean that they r following someone's opinion and ganging up against another. You claim to follow this thread for 3 years now @n0m0 n yet you can't see Rooney's decline or Phil Jones's moment of madness on the pitch of play, instead what you see are "coogar's followers" who support his points like he made them. It's crystal clear for everyone to see including the ludicrous English media that Rooney is sh!t upfront, as an attacking midfielder n as a central midfielder, note the word "is" which means currently and not previously as you lot try to always remind us when defending him. No doubt he is a united legend n he has done a lot for the team n club but as of 2 years going down to this year, he has being declining at an alarming rate n yet El jefe for no just reason keeps playing him n depriving the team decent players who are either relegated to the bench or shunted to unfamiliar positions (same sh!t happened last season). There are folks here, in each thread that are seen as "old jays" for the folks who just started following this thread n so their valid opinions are taken up for arguments and analysis, I don't get all this "coogar followers" crap that every Joe spurts out when in need of attention.

My 100 naira.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:36pm On Oct 24, 2015
chrisley024:
@Aareonakakanfo
cheesy grin
Mad man

Wish to use that gif on chelshit thread today grin
grin Lol i'm trying to update my gif library for them. There should be a party on that thread today
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 2:40pm On Oct 24, 2015
wink
parrotibaba:
I don't get this "following coogar" of a thing. The other time it was a shekpe dingbat with that ridiculous generalization, WTF is all this? That the majority of ppl agree that Rooney or Jones or Valencia(in some cases) are not up to scratch doesn't mean that they r following someone's opinion and ganging up against another. You claim to follow this thread for 3 years now @n0m0 n yet you can't see Rooney's decline or Phil Jones's moment of madness on the pitch of play, instead what you see are "coogar's followers" who support his points like he made them. It's crystal clear for everyone to see including the ludicrous English media that Rooney is sh!t upfront, as an attacking midfielder n as a central midfielder, note the word "is" which means currently and not previously as you lot try to always remind us when defending him. No doubt he is a united legend n he has done a lot for the team n club but as of 2 years going down to this year, he has being declining at an alarming rate n yet El jefe for no just reason keeps playing him n depriving the team decent players who are either relegated to the bench or shunted to unfamiliar positions (same sh!t happened last season). There are folks here, in each thread that are seen as "old jays" for the folks who just started following this thread n so their valid opinions are taken up for arguments and analysis, I don't get all this "coogar followers" crap that every Joe spurts out when in need of attention.

My 100 naira.
I actually think it is a symptom of "painment" or "deep resentment"! But @ least he is not crying over how many likes a quote or gif gets, or threatening fire and brimstone over being quoted like their boss mong and his ilk do all the time! As if likes na credit alert! Lol.....youngins!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:25pm On Oct 24, 2015
Time to move over to the Chelsea thread and go fûck things up....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m):
smiley

Happy Birthday to our skipper Wayne Rooney:

Even though your form right now is nothing to celebrate, @ least make I help you with some stats to further generate small goodwill for you here!


Number of #BPL goals by great premier league strikers by their 30th birthday;

187 - ROONEY
176 - Shearer
174 - Henry
152 - Fowler
146 - Owen

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 3:49pm On Oct 24, 2015
But, how is that not a goal for chelshit huh Don't understand the goal-line tech.

Anyway, none of my business. We party today.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mattfeuter(m): 3:52pm On Oct 24, 2015
chrisley024:
But, how is that not a goal for chelshit huh Don't understand the goal-line tech.
The ball must completely cross the line. . . in that case, it didn't!

Of course Na party sure pass grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by igbsam(m): 3:57pm On Oct 24, 2015
chrisley024:
But, how is that not a goal for chelshit huh Don't understand the goal-line tech.

Anyway, none of my business. We party today.
Trust mourinho to blame the Goal Line Technology tomorrow or today sef. He always finds someone or something to blame grin


Chelsea's Fan Thread Loading

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 4:25pm On Oct 24, 2015
elampiro:
You don't know football Lingard was the worst player because he was the reason we couldn't reach the final third. Our attacking threat was from the right, he was an obstacle.

Your brain is rotten and infested with maggots. Animal.
baba just try get sense na... how can u of all people who claim to be above 30 want to commit intellectual suicide again?...

... you sir is a lost cause... Lord bigot
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:54pm On Oct 24, 2015
Rooney will forever remain a Man United Legend..... but ATM we need him sitting on the Bench along with the Coaches, rather than Killing the Team's spirit and tempo on the field!
Rooney's service is only needed in the dressing room, counseling and guiding the Club's youngsters and new signings. He has little to offer on the pitch, thus he should honorably ask the Manager to start benching him henceforth.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m):
grin

cheesy

Only the blue team of "jose titus" can boast of defending a league title with these abysmal stats to their credit;

IMPOTENT IN ATTACK:

15 - Goals scored so far this term does
not compare favourably with the same
period last season, by which point they
had plundered 26! ( Where's falcao / hidden ?)

OLOSHOS IN DEFENCE:

19 - Times their goal has been breached
this term. Last season the Blues
conceded just 32 goals, making them the
Premier League's tightest defence (rahman baba and ivanovic for world XI of this season?)

INDISCIPLINE REIGNS SUPREME:

3 - Matic's sending off was Chelsea's
third of the season, following red cards
shown to Thibaut Courtois and John
Terry (thug captain)!........sky sports/the lord

Mercy!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 6:14pm On Oct 24, 2015
Shey we no go buy this giroud bayi?? angry tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:19pm On Oct 24, 2015
Chelsea thread make brain...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 6:36pm On Oct 24, 2015
Dadehmola:
Shey we no go buy this giroud bayi?? angry tongue
wish you know the amount of chances assnal create
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 6:47pm On Oct 24, 2015
chrisley024:
wish you know the amount of chances assnal create
Won't you rather have him in rooney's place??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:06pm On Oct 24, 2015
Dadehmola:
Won't you rather have him in rooney's place??
This was welbeck's chance in this arsenal side he is stronger than walcott and faster than giroud also with the benefit of height again
dude no get luck at all.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:24pm On Oct 24, 2015
did hidden hazard score today?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 7:52pm On Oct 24, 2015
coogar:
did hidden hazard score today?
Why will he score when he is Hidden?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 7:57pm On Oct 24, 2015
angry Hello fam, grab this dope ep already

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 7:59pm On Oct 24, 2015
smiley

Its a straight toss between "jose moanrinho" and "tim sherwood" on who might be the next manager in the prem league to get fired! Exciting times indeed!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar:
funlord:
smiley
Number of #BPL goals by great premier league strikers by their 30th birthday;

187 - ROONEY
176 - Shearer
174 - Henry
152 - Fowler
146 - Owen
these stats are fraudulent! shearer & henry scored career league goals before the premier league was established. there was a football league before 92/93.

number of career league goals by their 30th birthday

199 - shearer
197 - henry
187 - rooney

if we were to follow the logic in your stats then rooney is greater than messi. how come? rooney has scored 187BPL goals more than messi. grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:02pm On Oct 24, 2015
We now have to click "see more" to see Chelsea on the table...lmao
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 8:10pm On Oct 24, 2015
cheesy
coogar:
these stats are fraudulent! shearer & henry scored career league goals before the premier league was established. there was a football league before 92/93.

number of career league goals by their 30th birthday

189 - shearer
187 - henry
187 - rooney

if we were to follow the logic in your stats then rooney is greater than messi. how come? rooney has scored 187BPL goals more than messi. grin grin
Trust the boys @ bbm channels! I think dey just created this lop sided goal ranking just to make rooney feel loved and hyped in equal measure on his birthday!

If you notice they conveniently only included goals by the listed strikers from the "92 season" when the premiership began and ended it by the "certain age of 30" which automatically helps wazza jump the queue! They glady wanted to steer clear of the career league goals stats by all means!

Don't shoot the messenger, go kill just football instead! Lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:13pm On Oct 24, 2015
funlord:
cheesy

Trust the boys @ sky! I think dey just created this lop sided goal ranking just to make rooney feel loved and hyped in equal measure on his birthday!

If you notice they conveniently only included goals by the listed strikers from the "92 season" when the premiership began and ended it by the "certain age of 30" which automatically helps wazza jump the queue! They glady wanted to steer clear of the career league goals stats by all means!

Don't shoot the messenger, go kill sky instead!
i won't be surprised that 10% of rooney's weekly wage goes to skysports pundits. the arsë-licking is tenacious. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 8:19pm On Oct 24, 2015
coogar:
i won't be surprised that 10% of rooney's weekly wage goes to skysports pundits. the arsë-licking is tenacious. cheesy
Yeah they are all innit together! But the original stat appeared on a bbm channel called "just football" that always gets feeds from twitter and sky! Hence why I did the name change! I just hope I haven't stained skys buttlicking rep further by mistake! but who cares! They still all kiss his ass anyway!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:25pm On Oct 24, 2015
Dadehmola:
Won't you rather have him in rooney's place??
I'd prefer any player in his place.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 9:11pm On Oct 24, 2015
chrisley024:
I'd prefer any player in his place.
Literally ANY premier league striker right now. ANYONE of them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 10:12pm On Oct 24, 2015
shearer scored 58 penalties, coogar lets remove the penalties scored by Rooney and shearer and compare their minutes and goal to match ratios. Did shearer play any oter role than sit in front of the box.

shearer for soton 23 in 118 vs wazza for everton 15 in 67 0.195 for shearer vs. 0.224 for wazza(a teenage Rooney outscores an experienced shearer)

1996–2006 Newcastle United 303 (148) shearer scored an average of 14.8 goals per year for newcastle(pure fraud as an all out striker)

Shearer's real form was for Blackburn 112 in 138. Shearer is inferior to Rooney in all aspects. Remove the penalties and shearer is shyte.
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