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Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by angiography(m): 1:11pm On Oct 25, 2015
winniz:
The Northern elites created Bokoharam to ensure power returns to the North in 2015 and that was what brought Buhari to Power.
Who told you these lieshuh?

SMH...
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 1:13pm On Oct 25, 2015
Guys see the truth here... Na we dey here... No dey fear this bini and Yorubas coned heads nah...

NOBLEDANDY:
Hey guys wait, and save your emotions bc the op is fooling around...
Lemme tell you what you dunno...

In one of the op's paragraph he highlighted all the vote count in SW, N, SS and excluded the SE. But This is not coincidental.

He quickly went further and relegated the SE vote aside that Jonathan would have won without the SE votes.

With evidence of proof he posted, I deduced that the SE votes alone was whooping 5 millions approximately in favor of Jonathan. while SW have 2. 6 millions of vote in favour of Jonathan approximately, and SS was 6million approximately.

you can check the details he posted and confirm.

Going by that way, with chunk of whooping 5 million votes from SE. with the favoured votes from northerners. Jonathan would have won let alone merging it up with the SS 6 million vote.

That's what the op is hiding inside that long epistle...

Let's compare...
Even with the 2 million from SW alone Jonathan wouldn't have won...
But with only the SE votes Jonathan would have won...

Fast forward to 2015 those whooping votes from SE couldn't come bc of some factors that defranchised Jonathan even before voting exercise was conducted.

1) in The SE many people couldn't get their permanent voters card bc it wasn't disbursed at the LGA. And you can't use temporal voters card... What a big blow for Jonathan..

2) the issue of card readers was used to cut down people that came to vote that day who frustratedly went home that day...

3. Radio Biafra was also an influence as many people tend to follow the advise of the radio station in boycotting the election.

In conclusion, no matter how the Yorubas try to paint us that we are not relevant in politics... Only the politicians know the power behind the SE in determining elections.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by DaBullIT(m): 1:15pm On Oct 25, 2015
eXACTLY my point , which one is south south again ?
atbu1983:
South South people are not ingrate. It is the Igbo that are trying to blind us from remembering how Jonathan got there in d first place.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by CyberWolf: 1:15pm On Oct 25, 2015
realkendy:
Guy,why do you people always give audience to these igbo threads.Anybody who wants to relax will concort some silly things n come here to have fun with ur comments.Its hightime igbos stop giving them unnecessary attention.There are other tribes in Nigeria, about 250 of them.
The problem is that if we keep quiet, the gullible ones will believe it as the truth. That particular guy has been sparmming every thread with one thrash of lies that I don't know where he got it from. Ordinarily, it's not worth wasting time on, that's why I don't usually him him. But recently, some people has started believing him. Go through all his posts, it's always about portraying Igbos in bad light through some well concocted malicious lies and propaganda. That's why it's necessary to be brutal on them sometimes and let them know that we are not gullible. angry
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by CyberWolf: 1:20pm On Oct 25, 2015
atbu1983:
The post is base on fact and figure. If you have counter fact present it.
by the way, you haven't answered my question. As a true Niger Deltan, when are you telling Buhari to implement confab report? It's for your own good you know...Ediotic bini criminal angry
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 1:20pm On Oct 25, 2015
NOBLEDANDY:
Hey guys wait, and save your emotions bc the op is fooling around...
Lemme tell you what you dunno...

In the op's paragraph he highlighted all the vote count in SW, N, SS and excluded the SE. This is not coincidental.

He quickly went further and relegated the SE vote aside that Jonathan would have won without the SE votes.

With evidence of proof he posted, I deduced that the SE votes alone was whooping 5 million approximately in favor of Jonathan. while SW have 2 millions of vote in favour of Jonathan approximately, and SS was 6million approximately.

You can check the details he posted and confirm.
Going by that way with chunk of a whooping 5million from SE votes with the northerners Jonathan would have won let alone to merge it up with the SS 6 million vote.

That's what the op is hiding inside that long epistle...

Let's compare...
Even with the 2 million from SW alone Jonathan wouldn't have won...
But with only the SE votes Jonathan would have won...

Fast forward to 2015 those whooping votes from SE couldn't come bc of some factors that defranchised Jonathan even before voting exercise was conducted.

1) in The SE many people couldn't get their permanent voters card bc it wasn't disbursed at the LGA. And you can't use temporal voters card... What a big blow for Jonathan..

2) the issue of card readers was used to cut down people that came to vote that day who frustratedly went home that day...

3. Radio Biafra was also an influence as many people tend to follow the advise of the radio station in boycotting the election.

In conclusion, no matter how the Yorubas try to paint us that we are not relevant in politics... Only the politicians know the power behind the SE in determining elections.
My post is crystal clear. I fully said South east voted massively for Jonathan. At the same emphasizing the fact the south west and north central also gave Jonathan massive vote. And also made it clear even without south east Jonathan would have won majority of the vote. Everything I said is true. is there any lie in my position? clearly no.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 1:27pm On Oct 25, 2015
atbu1983:
My post is crystal clear. I fully said South east voted massively for Jonathan. At the same emphasizing the fact the south west and north central also gave Jonathan massive vote. And also made it clear even without south east Jonathan would have won majority f the vote. Everything I said is true. is there any lie in my position? clearly no.
Oga is a lie and you no sabi lie, that's why your ass was busted...
Meanwhile where do you made it clear in your epistle that SE gave Jonathan 5 million votes.?.

lemme tell you With just sw alone Jonathan wouldn't have won.

what is 2.6 million votes? Except is merged with other Ss or SE votes yet it won't even count...

But SE gave him a whooping 5 million votes... And the amazing thing is that Even with that alone Jonathan would have won without stink pain....

Baba you see how you dey paint Igbos in bad light with lies, is it fair bro??

Is it now a crime for Igbos to now vote one of your acclaimed kindhuh
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 1:39pm On Oct 25, 2015
NOBLEDANDY:
Oga is a lie and you no sabi lie, that's why your ass was busted...
Meanwhile where do you made it clear in your epistle that SE gave Jonathan 5 million votes.?.

lemme tell you With just sw alone Jonathan wouldn't have won.

what is 2.6 million votes? Except is merged with other Ss or SE votes yet it won't even count...

But SE gave him a whooping 5 million votes... And the amazing thing is that Even with that alone Jonathan would have won without stink pain....

Baba you see how you dey paint Igbos in bad light with lies, is it fair bro??

Is it now a crime for Igbos to now vote one of your acclaimed kindhuh
My post is crystal clear.
Just for u to understand.

Jonathan got 22.5 million vote while Buhari got 12.2Million votes in 2011.
if you subtract the 5million vote South east gave jonathan and even add it to Buhari vote,
Jonathan vote will become 17.5million while Buhari vote will become 17.2millions. Thus Jonathan still won.

The moral of my message is that in 2011 election, the whole Nigeria voted for Jonathan.
But if Jonathan was not made Acting president by the help of the Yoruba, Jonathan would not even be a candidate for the election in the first place.

So south east cannot lay claim that they made Jonathan President.
South east only tried their strength in 2015 and failed.

In 2011 Jonathan was the candidate of SW,SS,SE,NC and some part of NE.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by omoelesa(m): 1:44pm On Oct 25, 2015
huptin:
so how come they couldnt give GEJ the same number of votes in 2015? Did they all die? Or they simply chickened out. You people destroyed Goodluck with your lies. You told him your population is 80% of Lagos population, that your votes in Lagos and the North will be enough to give him a 2nd term.

GEJ being the simple man that he was believed you, but what happened? Weeks to the elections your folks in the north all ran away....u see its one thing to boast online its another to face the wrath of Northerners....you couldnt back your words with action...you ran away....as for Lagos the Yorubas simply came out to show the world that the combined votes of both the Ss and SE people is no where near their own...in the long run GEJ learnt the hard way....Never in his life will he trust an Igbo man.
Omo,see brain.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 1:55pm On Oct 25, 2015
atbu1983:
My post is crystal clear.
Just for u to understand.

Jonathan got 22.5 million vote while Buhari got 12.2Million votes in 2011.
if you subtract the 5million vote South east gave jonathan and even add it to Buhari vote,
Jonathan vote will become 17.5million while Buhari vote will become 17.2millions. Thus Jonathan still won.

The moral of my message is that in 2011 election, the whole Nigeria voted for Jonathan.
But if Jonathan was not made Acting president by the help of the Yoruba, Jonathan would not even be a candidate for the election in the first lace.

So south east cannot lay claim that they made Jonathan President.
South east only tried their strength in 2015 and failed.

In 2011 Jonathan was the candidate of SW,SS,SE,NC and some part of NE.
Guy abeg reason well for once

Even in 2015 every zones represented votes for Jonathan... NC, NE, NW, SW, SE, SS

And If you don't know Igbos are the power behind Jonathan's winning in 2011.

Do you know that there are also Igbos in almost every zones in Nigeria and of big chunk for that matter...

Let's say Igbos didn't vote for Jonathan That they all voted for buhari as they voted for Jonathan...

Do you know that the SW votes, SS votes, and Northern votes for Jonathan will decrease with an immediate effect.

But assuming the Yorubas voted for buhari, Jonathan will still win with no stress and he would have loved it that way..

Fact: in 2011 yorubas gave Jonathan the lowest votes in southern Nigeria in fact in the whole Nigeria.

I guess you don't know... Igbos are not just people you can play and meddle with anyhow...

Meanwhile you see Edo they are just ungrateful ingrates in the SS...
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 2:00pm On Oct 25, 2015
Unassailable analysis....
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by WETINUSABI: 2:06pm On Oct 25, 2015
FUCKKKK YOU...

INTEAD OF spewing trash, why not disprove ops point...blockhead
FreeGlobe:
has anything true come out of Yorubas and yorubaland? I guess the late professor Dora Akunyili who played the key role during that era was yoruba. I don't even have time to waste responding to your obvious nonsense.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 2:08pm On Oct 25, 2015
FreeGlobe:
go and research and stop saying what you don't know
Research what? You think I was born yesterday? The happenings were well covered by national and international media. Save your lies and revisionism for kids and illiterates.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by ETHIX(m): 2:13pm On Oct 25, 2015
Uniben4sure:
Really?!

Ffk must be Igbo. Even Reuben Abati. Fayose too is an igboman. Oh I forgot, Orubebe too is Igbo. Even Bode George. Dokpesi too that lent his AIT for campaigns of calumny against Buhari must also be an Igbo man.

Hypocrites!
However beneficiaries from other tribes supported igbos cos of their direct or indirect benefits
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by WETINUSABI: 2:15pm On Oct 25, 2015
you get sense my brother cool cool cool
stevecantrell:
Jonathan wasn't a critical thinker, much too shallow.

He could have got both igbo and yoruba tribes to return him to Aso Rock for a second term but..
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Uniben4sure: 2:44pm On Oct 25, 2015
ETHIX:
However beneficiaries from other tribes supported igbos cos of their direct or indirect benefits
I challenge you to mention one Igbo politician that talked bad of buhari and his tribes during the campaign as did those politicians I mentioned earlier.

Search through your conscience and tell me you know what you are talking about. If not, tender your apology to the great Igbo nation and be forgiven.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by gigabyte13: 2:52pm On Oct 25, 2015
Shooooooooow, hmmmmmm, no wonder it was soooo easy for the yolobas to dethrone him. So what is the opinion of the chief wailer( Southeast) aka Nigerian newly crowned town crier on this?
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 2:59pm On Oct 25, 2015
Okay, maybe you did or not, of which I cannot admit because it was a collective effort.

Igbos have always been undivided supporters of the south-south region, we have always stood solidly beside them, and even when things went sour, we proved our loyalty to them, they themselves, called us brothers.

So you may have put in an effort to make Jonathan a president, but we, the Igbos have stood beside them through sunshine and rain, not just for one election.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by gigabyte13: 3:21pm On Oct 25, 2015
Mtchewwwww, hw does this thread, deliver Kanu from the ugly grip of the zoo DSS ? I pity him though, a small fry when compare to Fela, Abiola, Awo, Al-mustapha and the rest.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by TRUTHTOPOWER: 3:31pm On Oct 25, 2015
FreeGlobe:
nonsense
Brilliant Counter Attack! Now the future of PDP is guaranteed.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by igbanbajo(m): 3:37pm On Oct 25, 2015
MrMbaM:
I dont blame the yeebhoes at all, i blame the naive Yorubas that argue with them. Wole Soyinka was jailed cos of Biafra, but was later cursed and denigrated by the yeebhoes. Victor Banjo led there only offensive in there civil war but he was killed by the pedophile Ojuku yet they call his kinsmen coward.

Here are pics of the SNG protest below during the 2010 Yar Adua/GEJ brouhaha.
Oore pe, asiere gbagbe.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by igbanbajo(m): 3:43pm On Oct 25, 2015
atbu1983:
You Igbo should stop spreading lies. It is time to correct this deceit.

When Yar Adua was sick in 2010 and GEJ was VP the most vocal group who ensured Jonathan was made President were the Yoruba. During these period most Igbos were silent and dumb.

The Save Nigeria Group founded by Pastor Tunde Bakare and Sahara reporters prevented Jonathan from being impeached and making way for David Mark to becoming d president. We cant 4get the massive support Prof Wole Soyinka gave to save nigeria group protest and impact of other south west media houses like punch, tribune and the nations to the struggle to prevent Jonathan Impeachment and ensuring that Jonathan became president.

In 2011 elections, the whole South(SW,SS and SE) and middle belt gave Jonathan block vote. South west gave jonathan more than 70% of their vote in 2011 when compared to what Buhari got in South west. South south did the same. South east did d same. North central gave Jonathan more than 60% of the vote.

In 2011, In the whole North (NC,NW and NE) Buhari was only leading Jonathan with about 3.3million vote. In the south west, Jonathan was leading Buhari with about2.4million votes, while in south south Jonathan was leading Buhari with about 6million votes. This means if we cancel all the elections from south east, Jonathan would have still won 2011 elections.

Even if we go further and add all Jonathan's vote in the south east to Buhari vote, Jonathan will still have the simple Majority in 2011 election. This last statement may be sarcastic, but it is true.

The only thing some south east states did which south west states and North Central stares did not do was to Inflate the voters turn out which card readers prevented in 2015 election. The truth was dat the inflation of vote by some south east states in 2011 was completely unneccessary because Jonathan would have won without it. Jonathan won some states like Taraba and Adamawa in North east in 2011.

We cant forget the impact of Pastor Enoch Adeboye laying of hands on Jonathan in 2011 redeem camp on 2011 Jonathan election among christians all over Nigeria. We cant 4get the role of Gen Olusegun Obasanjo in ensuring that Jonathan was made Acting President. Who being the Chairman of PDP board of trustee asked Yar Adua to resign for Jonathan to become president. We cant 4get d Insult obasanjo got from Arewa for that statements. We cant 4get how Obasanjo prevent former VP Atiku abubarkar from hijacking PDP and getting the PDP ticket in 2011

So igbo never made Jonathan President in 2011. The only thing Igbo did was to destroy Jonathan presidency between 2011 and 2015.
Igbo people like Stella Oduah destroyed d image of Jonathan Govt. Igbo people hijack Jonathan govt preventing him from achieving what he needed to achieve. Pius Ayim Pius brought high level Nepotism to Nigeria Federal civil service.

As far as i an concern it was President Jonathan who did Igbo big favour by giving them a loud voice in Nigeria national politics. You igbo should be grateful to Jonathan not d other way around.

The only time Igbo stood alone with Jonathan was 2015 election which Jonathan lost. Igbo stood with him for thier own good because of what he had done for them politically. And also because they know they cant control any other person the way they controlled Jonathan

Even today that Jonathan is no more the president of Nigeria, the only Governor who has made defending Jonathan legacy his primary assignment is a Yoruba Governor. Governor Fayose of Ekiti. No igbo PDP governor defend Jonathan today like Fayose do.

Today, they want to re-write history with fake propanganda just because of 2015 election. What make me sick is the way they make it look like south south owe them when actually they are the one owing south south for giving them voice through Jonathan.

In summary, Jonathan got 22.5 million vote while Buhari got 12.2Million votes in 2011. if you subtract the 5million vote South east gave jonathan and even add it to Buhari vote, Jonathan vote will become 17.5million while Buhari vote will become 17.2millions. Thus Jonathan would have still won.

The moral of my message is that in 2011 election, the whole Nigeria voted for Jonathan. In 2011 Jonathan was the candidate of SW,SS,SE,NC and some part of NE. So south east cannot lay claim that they made Jonathan President.


But if Jonathan was not made Acting president by the help of the Yoruba, Jonathan would not even be a candidate for the election in the first place.




Below is 2011 Presidential results.
source:http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20110419040622zg/sections/general-articles/details-of-2011-presidential-election-results-in-nigeria/
Well written reminder. Thank you.
Write-up bookmarked.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 3:46pm On Oct 25, 2015
@Op, how is 2million votes from south west greater than 4million votes from South East in 2011?


Also, the ones that Voted were the south:south and. East in the west.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Ovamboland(m): 3:53pm On Oct 25, 2015
princemillla:
Did I said acn? Labour party had no presidential candidate for 2011 election hence all its presidential vote was for Jonathan. Are u clear now
I knew LP had it's head in PDP's butt in 2011 but you mashed up two different issues by saying this:

By the way, Op, you forgot to name the fact that the leader of the them opposition party dump Ribadu for Jonathan.. I was a party agent for labour party and the instructions everyone got was to vote for Jonathan.
The truth is ACN was not contesting the 2011 election to win, but it had a candidate so that what happened to AD, LP and eventually APGA will not happen to it.
All ACN hope was on alliance discussion with CPC which failed at the last minute, hence the lack of coordination of the presidential elections. Even it's candidate performed woefully in his home state
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by otr1(m): 4:12pm On Oct 25, 2015
Without the help and support of the SNG and Obasanjo, Jonathan wouldn't have become the VP or made the PDP primary in the first place. So tell me how would it have been possible for the Ibos to give him 6 million votes in 2011 general election?
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by TRUTHTOPOWER: 4:16pm On Oct 25, 2015
Change!
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by TRUTHTOPOWER: 4:16pm On Oct 25, 2015
FREEDOM4BIAFRA:
Okay, maybe you did or not, of which I cannot admit because it was a collective effort.

Igbos have always been undivided supporters of the south-south region, we have always stood solidly beside them, and even when things went sour, we proved our loyalty to them, they themselves, called us brothers.

So you may have put in an effort to make Jonathan a president, but we, the Igbos have stood beside them through sunshine and rain, not just for one election.
Except GEJ regime. name one time when SE fought for SS agenda? Even the creation of SS states was resisted by the East. Niger Delta is an environmental shipwreck yet it was more convenient to bewail their political set backs. name one thing that affected the masses of both SS and South East that the East elites championed from the beginning to the end.

Truth is Nigerian grassroots from SS,SE,North, SW have more in common in terms of austerity than their respective leaders. Orji Kalu's daughter is more likely to fall in love with Dangote Adenuga's son than she will ever chat with a struggling apprentice in Aba. This not a fault of aristocracy or a sin of greed but the shocking gulf of separation between the rich and the poor in Nigeria.

Imagine if PMB calls a banquet today to unite the Nigerian elites, you will see the end of all sectional agitations at elite level.

Just as GEJ symbolized fresh air in 2011 so also does PMB symbolizes Change in 2015 at least to majority of Nigerian voters. Change is a collective responsibility that some of us have signed up for. It is not exactly as the Party sees it but what we Nigerians make of it.

GEJ erred when his aides stonewalled others while corruption escalated. You don't have to accept this as a fact because your choice just like mine is a single opinion that cannot derail the widespread belief in Change.

Bottom line:- Your cross is yours alone to carry, only peaceful and progressive Nigeria can make your journey easier. Not individuals or ethnic affinity.
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 5:16pm On Oct 25, 2015
otr1:
Without the help and support of the SNG and Obasanjo, Jonathan wouldn't have become the VP or made the PDP primary in the first place. So tell me how would it have been possible for the Ibos to give him 6 million votes in 2011 general election?
So true
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 10:02am On Oct 26, 2015
DaBullIT:
eXACTLY my point , which one is south south again ?
it is geopolitical zone smiley
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 3:15pm On Oct 26, 2015
cleatoris:
Ibo girls with their akpu bele dominate the prostitution business in Nigeria. They are littered around all stinking brothels in Benin. They're the cheapest whorés around town.
smiley
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 3:21pm On Oct 26, 2015
WETINUSABI:
Nice analysis
thanks
Re: Yorubas fought the North to make Goodluck Jonathan President not Igbos by Nobody: 3:29pm On Oct 26, 2015
cleatoris:
That's very true.
Yoruba made Jonathan president but ibos ruined his presidency. They reaped without wisdom, tact and diplomacy in a place they were to afraid to sow.
so true. They reaped where they did not sow
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