₦airaland Forum

lekan29ice:
TRUTH IS BITTER

musKeeto:
GOD bless you.

realkendy:
Guy,why do you people always give audience to these igbo threads.Anybody who wants to relax will concort some silly things n come here to have fun with ur comments.Its hightime igbos stop giving them unnecessary attention.There are other tribes in Nigeria, about 250 of them.

pazienza:
OP is a jellyfish. His maths teacher failed him.

Total GEJ vote minus SE = 17, 500,941

Total Buhari vote plus SE= 17,200,099.

Difference= 300,842.

A difference easily brushed aside when we substract further, the Igbo votes in SW ( Lagos mainly), SS( where we have indigenous Igbo groups ( Anioma, Egbema,Oyigbo)and also large migrant Igbo populations) NC,NW, NE from GEJ and add to Buhari total.

Verdict: without Igbo votes, GEJ would have lost the 2011 elections to Buhari.

pazienza:
OP is a jellyfish. His maths teacher failed him.

Total GEJ vote minus SE = 17, 500,941

Total Buhari vote plus SE= 17,200,099.

Difference= 300,842.

A difference easily brushed aside when we substract further, the Igbo votes in SW ( Lagos mainly), SS( where we have indigenous Igbo groups ( Anioma, Egbema,Oyigbo)and also large migrant Igbo populations) NC,NW, NE from GEJ and add to Buhari total.

Verdict: without Igbo votes, GEJ would have lost the 2011 elections to Buhari.

atbu1983:
are there no yorubas, Soth south and other Nigerians in South east. We all know the actual south east vote is note more than 2.5million.
The 5million is inflated.
The aim of my post is to show that the yorubas did far more than the Igbos in ensuring we had the first Niger delta president.
The Igbos did nothing special. They voted just the same way most Nigerians voted Jonathan in 2011.

pazienza:
Ewu! Facts and figures shows that without Igbo votes, GEJ won't emerge in 2011.

It also showed that Yorubas were inconsequential in the outcome of 2011 presidential elections.

Only you know what you mean by SE inflated figures. I can as well claim that Buhari votes in 2015 elections in Kano and other northern states were inflated, but that's just my word against established figures.

In the end, established figures win, inflated or deflated.

Now can you crawl back to whatever part of cursed Edo you emerged from.

atbu1983:
My edo state is blessed with Human capacity and Natural resources. The history of Edo civilisation is known even before Nigeria was conceived.
Stop your emotional insults.
My post is crystal clear.
Without the help of the yoruba people, there wont be Niger Delta president .
Without them, Jonathan wont even be a candidate for you Igbos to even vote for.

Timbuktou:
Pazienza, even if we agreed that your votes for Jonathan were irrelevant, why do igbos refer to Yoruba as traitors who voted Ebele out. What happened in 2015 to the SE votes that were super-enough to secure the presidency for Ebele in 2011? I would like a logical answer to this, nothing emotional please. Help me understand. Thanks.

cleatoris:
You should know by now that ibos are incapable of engaging in robust arguments with, especially when choked with incontrovertible facts. They only resort to insults and emotional tantrums.

I've given up on those plonkers honestly.

atbu1983:
That is how they destroyed Jonathan 2015 election. They hijack it and made d election a tribal battle.

EUROBOMBER:
God will punish you eediot for twisting history. It was FFK and Fayose that ruined Jonathan's campaign not Igbo.

angels09:
Hi

VickJames:
I have been having reservations about the southsouth people but now i know what is happening. you stand alone when you are on a rough path. it is ok

atbu1983:
What was TAN headed by Ifeanyi Ubah doing?

atbu1983:
you guys deliberately downplayed the role of the yoruba in ensuring we have our first Niger delta president so as to make Jonathan your pawn to control. he fell for it. what is the result today? Niger delta people are not ingrate. we are grateful to the yorubas for the struggle.

Yes we know vey well that yorubas contributed to his removal, but this was because Igbos blindfolded Jonathan. Making him to appear like an ingrate that he is not.

But if look at the 2015 election result, Jonathan got more than 40% of south west votes. that shows they still had soft spot him despite they felt unappreciated.

atbu1983:
Fact speak for itself.

atbu1983:
Yoruba made Jonathan President not Igbo

Igbo should stop spreading lies. It is time to correct this deceit.

When Yar Adua was sick in 2010 and GEJ was VP the most vocal group who ensured Jonathan was made President were the Yoruba. During these period most Igbos were silent and dumb.

The Save Nigeria Group founded by Pastor Tunde Bakare and Sahara reporters prevented Jonathan from being impeached and making way for David Mark to becoming d president. We cant 4get the massive support Prof Wole Soyinka gave to save nigeria group protest and impact of other south west media houses like punch, tribune and the nations to the struggle to prevent Jonathan Impeachment and ensuring that Jonathan became president.

In 2011 elections, the whole South(SW,SS and SE) and middle belt gave Jonathan block vote. South west gave jonathan more than 70% of their vote in 2011 when compared to what Buhari got in South west. South south did the same. South east did d same. North central gave Jonathan more than 60% of the vote.

In 2011, In the whole North (NC,NW and NE) Buhari was only leading Jonathan with about 3.3million vote. In the south west, Jonathan was leading Buhari with about2.4million votes, while in south south Jonathan was leading Buhari with about 6million votes. This means if we cancel all the elections from south east, Jonathan would have still won 2011 elections.

Even if we go further and add all Jonathan's vote in the south east to Buhari vote, Jonathan will still have the simple Majority in 2011 election. This last statement may be sarcastic, but it is true.

The only thing some south east states did which south west states and North Central stares did not do was to Inflate the voters turn out which card readers prevented in 2015 election. The truth was dat the inflation of vote by some south east states in 2011 was completely unneccessary because Jonathan would have won without it. Jonathan won some states like Taraba and Adamawa in North east in 2011.

We cant forget the impact of Pastor Enoch Adeboye laying of hands on Jonathan in 2011 redeem camp on 2011 Jonathan election among christians all over Nigeria. We cant 4get the role of Gen Olusegun Obasanjo in ensuring that Jonathan was made Acting President. Who being the Chairman of PDP board of trustee asked Yar Adua to resign for Jonathan to become president. We cant 4get d Insult obasanjo got from Arewa for that statements. We cant 4get how Obasanjo prevent former VP Atiku abubarkar from hijacking PDP and getting the PDP ticket in 2011

So igbo never made Jonathan President in 2011. The only thing Igbo did was to destroy Jonathan presidency between 2011 and 2015.
Igbo people like Stella Oduah destroyed d image of Jonathan Govt. Igbo people hijack Jonathan govt preventing him from achieving what he needed to achieve. Pius Ayim Pius brought high level Nepotism to Nigeria Federal civil service.

As far as i am concern it was President Jonathan who did Igbo big favour by giving them a loud voice in Nigeria national politics. You igbo should be grateful to Jonathan not d other way around.

The only time Igbo stood alone with Jonathan was 2015 election which Jonathan lost. Igbo stood with him for thier own good because of what he had done for them politically. And also because they know they cant control any other person the way they controlled Jonathan

Even today that Jonathan is no more the president of Nigeria, the only Governor who has made defending Jonathan legacy his primary assignment is a Yoruba Governor. Governor Fayose of Ekiti. No igbo PDP governor defend Jonathan today like Fayose do.

Today, they want to re-write history with fake propanganda just because of 2015 election. What make me sick is the way they make it look like south south owe them when actually they are the one owing south south for giving them voice through Jonathan.

In summary, Jonathan got 22.5 million vote while Buhari got 12.2Million votes in 2011. if you subtract the 5million vote South east gave jonathan and even add it to Buhari vote, Jonathan vote will become 17.5million while Buhari vote will become 17.2millions. Thus Jonathan would have still won.

The moral of my message is that in 2011 election, the whole Nigeria voted for Jonathan. In 2011 Jonathan was the candidate of SW,SS,SE,NC and some part of NE. So south east cannot lay claim that they made Jonathan President.


But if Jonathan was not made Acting president by the help of the Yoruba, Jonathan would not even be a candidate for the election in the first place.




Below is 2011 Presidential results.
source:http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20110419040622zg/sections/general-articles/details-of-2011-presidential-election-results-in-nigeria/

LouisVanGaal:
pls enlighten me on why you said jonathan would have been impeached then..

LouisVanGaal:
pls enlighten me on why you said jonathan would have been impeached then..

pazienza:
Things that I believe led to low voters turn out in the SEduring the 2015 presidential elections.

1. The limited number of voters registration centres.

For some reason JEGA and those that controlled him masterminded this. The number registration centres in the SE were so grossly inadequate that after spending Two days in my area registration centre, I still wasn't able to register. Intact, only the crowd at the registration centres will even scare you aware. Those that managed to register in my area told me they came to the registration centre by 3am in the morning. But I came by 4am on the second day, and still wasn't able to register, I found out they had spill over from the previous day, that they had to attend to that day, and they were also doing nepotism and and collecting bribes to get people who I came earlier than registered.

Many people were not able to register, they gave up hope after many attempts, they felt it didn't worth the stress.
I stay in Enugu, but on a tip off from a close friend I had to go to a rural LGA in Enugu, where the population was less to get registered.

This way, many in the SE were disenfranchised.