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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:37pm On Oct 26, 2015
coogar:
there's a tenable excuse for that.....
rooney started too early. at 16, he was already playing for a top-6 team in the premier league. this is his 14th season at the top level in a very physical league. there's no way he won't run on fumes at 28.
Not buying it.
Ronaldo started at 16 at Sporting. Moved to United at 18. He is 8 months older than Rooney but doesn't appear to be in decline.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 7:40pm On Oct 26, 2015
@ Raumdeuter

I Read your reply again!

When I said molest I wasn't talking about buying players from competition I was talking about Bayern's win rate against other teams in the Bleague because of the lack of proper competition.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 7:44pm On Oct 26, 2015
StarBoard:
Not buying it.
Ronaldo started at 16 at Sporting. Moved to United at 18. He is 8 months older than Rooney but doesn't appear to be in decline.
Ronaldo and Messi are freaks of Nature!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:51pm On Oct 26, 2015
codedguy1:
Ronaldo and Messi are freaks of Nature!
Really?
But we thought so of our plodding buffalo when he scored against Arsenal at 16 years and took the Euro 2004 by storm
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:00pm On Oct 26, 2015
StarBoard:
Really?
But we thought so of our plodding buffalo when he scored against Arsenal at 16 years and took the Euro 2004 by storm
Exactly! We thought he was, but recent revelations have proved otherwise.

Meanwhile, Ronaldo wan enter another gear at 30yrs.

Don't get me wrong oo, I want the pregnant Rhino hulled off to mumbai for all I care.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:07pm On Oct 26, 2015
StarBoard:
Not buying it.
Ronaldo started at 16 at Sporting. Moved to United at 18. He is 8 months older than Rooney but doesn't appear to be in decline.
ronaldo is a natural athlete....
look at his body & how he's managed himself to be the best. compare him to the ill-disciplined rooney who has the body of a plumber & yet continues to abuse his own body.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:10pm On Oct 26, 2015
codedguy1:
@ Raumdeuter
I Read your reply again!
When I said molest I wasn't talking about buying players from competition I was talking about Bayern's win rate against other teams in the Bleague because of the lack of proper competition.
You said lack of competition, does Bayern only make the entire league?

Didnt we see Dortmund sitting bottom of the entire league after half the season?

VFB Stuttgart who won the league recently are currently in relegation spot. Mochengladbach who won CL spot were sitting firmly in the bottom of the league just 4weeks ago

In Europe currently. No EPL team is topping their group whether its in CL or Europa while several Buli teams are

When was the last time a top 5 Ballon D or came from EPL,

When was the last time a top 3 scorer at the world cup came from EPL

When was the last time a top 3 best player at the world cup came from EPL

Even Scholes said the EPL lacks quality players. How come you are not bothered about that
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:12pm On Oct 26, 2015
coogar:
ronaldo is a natural athlete....
look at his body & how he's managed himself to be the best. compare him to the ill-disciplined rooney who has the body of a plumber & yet continues to abuse his own body.
Now we are getting somewhere.
Someone took better care of himself while the other was shagging grannies. And it could be argued that at their earlier stage, Rooney was more talented.
No matter how natural an athlete is he has to look after himself.
Have you heard whe re Fergie said Ronaldo would stay behind after practice to try out free kicks?
Ronaldo is more dedicated to his craft. That is the difference between both
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:33pm On Oct 26, 2015
raumdeuter:
You said lack of competition, does Bayern only make the entire league?
Didnt we see Dortmund sitting bottom of the entire league after half the season?
VFB Stuttgart who won the league recently are currently in relegation spot. Mochengladbach who won CL spot were sitting firmly in the bottom of the league just 4weeks ago
In Europe currently. No EPL team is topping their group whether its in CL or Europa while several Buli teams are
When was the last time a top 5 Ballon D or came from EPL,
When was the last time a top 3 scorer at the world cup came from EPL
When was the last time a top 3 best player at the world cup came from EPL
Even Scholes said the EPL lacks quality players. How come you are not bothered about that
How can I imply bayern make up the league? Which kain talk be that. Saying Bayern lack competition can also mean Bayern is too good for the teams in the burnthisleague down.

We are talking about bayerns dominance in the bleague. Let me put it this way, Bayern will not be as dominant in the bleague like they are if they were in the EPL. Its a pity we would never get to see that.

I know you will start saying Bayern usually beats the top teams in the EPL but we are actually talking about how supposedly lower teams shocks top teams in the EPL.

Arsenal just decimated Bayern recently! Just a reminder.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:50pm On Oct 26, 2015
codedguy1:
How can I imply bayern make up the league? Which kain talk be that. Saying Bayern lack competition can also mean Bayern is too good for the teams in the burnthisleague down.

We are talking about bayerns dominance in the bleague. Let me put it this way, Bayern will not be as dominant in the bleague like they are if they were in the EPL. Its a pity we would never get to see that.

I know you will start saying Bayern usually beats the top teams in the EPL but we are actually talking about how supposedly lower teams shocks top teams in the EPL.

Arsenal just decimated Bayern recently! Just a reminder.
How do you know Bayern wont top the EPL comfortably given that in the last 5 yrs almost every season there has been an EPL team in Bayerns CL group and Bayern have never been second

Arsenal decimated Bayern recently just like Augsburg did and Wolfsburg did


Tell me the composition of the EPL top 4 for the past 6yrs and compare that to the Bundesliga top 4 to know which league is more competitive

if not for a club having a poor unusual season I can tell you the top 4 would be Man Utd, Arsenal City and Chelsea and the past 6yrs is my evidence.

Can you tell me those who would be Buli top 4?

Augsburg made the top 6 in Buli last season currently they are bottom of the table. Same with Drtmund last season. It doesnt get more competitive than that

Augsburg thats bottom of the league held Bayern to a 1-1 draw till the last minute of the game.

How did Aston Villa and Newcastle fare when they played Citeh?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 9:33pm On Oct 26, 2015
raumdeuter:
How do you know Bayern wont top the EPL comfortably given that in the last 5 yrs almost every season there has been an EPL team in Bayerns CL group and Bayern have never been second

Arsenal decimated Bayern recently just like Augsburg did and Wolfsburg did


Tell me the composition of the EPL top 4 for the past 6yrs and compare that to the Bundesliga top 4 to know which league is more competitive

if not for a club having a poor unusual season I can tell you the top 4 would be Man Utd, Arsenal City and Chelsea and the past 6yrs is my evidence.

Can you tell me those who would be Buli top 4?

Augsburg made the top 6 in Buli last season currently they are bottom of the table. Same with Drtmund last season. It doesnt get more competitive than that

Augsburg thats bottom of the league held Bayern to a 1-1 draw till the last minute of the game.

How did Aston Villa and Newcastle fare when they played Citeh?
I know we won't agree on this and this would be my last take.

Maybe I should have used the word STIFFER competition when refering to the teams in the BL against Bayern.

You seem to be somewhat making my point for me. Few years ago the competition was between Man United and Arsenal, but now a Manchester United know that they will face STIFF opposition from the likes of Chelsea(forget their present predicament as u also alluded was unusual) Arsenal and Man city. Then the likes of liverpool, Tottenham and Evertons. These clubs consistently bring unusual stiff competition that affect the traditional top 4 as you put it.

But in the BL, one club from no where gives a fantastic showing and then fade away the next season, but Bayern is the only consistent team.

I rember when Shalke, Munchenglasbach, stuttgart and Dortmund where the main competitions.

Now its just bayern.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:04pm On Oct 26, 2015
raumdeuter:
How do you know Bayern wont top the EPL comfortably given that in the last 5 yrs almost every season there has been an EPL team in Bayerns CL group and Bayern have never been second

Arsenal decimated Bayern recently just like Augsburg did and Wolfsburg did


Tell me the composition of the EPL top 4 for the past 6yrs and compare that to the Bundesliga top 4 to know which league is more competitive

if not for a club having a poor unusual season I can tell you the top 4 would be Man Utd, Arsenal City and Chelsea and the past 6yrs is my evidence.

Can you tell me those who would be Buli top 4?

Augsburg made the top 6 in Buli last season currently they are bottom of the table. Same with Drtmund last season. It doesnt get more competitive than that

Augsburg thats bottom of the league held Bayern to a 1-1 draw till the last minute of the game.

How did Aston Villa and Newcastle fare when they played Citeh?
There are two teams in the Burnthisleaguedown - Bayern Munich and other teams. The fact that Bayern molest others teams both on and off the pitch means there's no competition in the league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 10:07pm On Oct 26, 2015
elampiro:


Some things are over emphasized. A striker who has more than 30 touches in a game is okay.

Rooney is not playing well but the stats they are bringing to ridicule him are ridiculous themselves.

Van Persie has once had 11 touches in a game. Rooney had 50 and they said it's bad.

Last season RVP averaged 23 passes per 90 minuets played while Falcao averaged 27 per 90 minutes.

I also read Falcao was not this bad. That is a lie. Falcao was a falling falling even against feather weight defenders and midfielders. The little I have seen of Falcao this season, he is not any better than when he left us. I saw him in a certain Capital 1 cup, he missed clear cut chances. Couldn't even kick a free kick, he fell down when he was to take a free kick.


Criticism should be constructive.
It's like the skills rooney could n't display on match days, you help him do them here. If rooney could put in half of commitment you put in defending him on this forum, he would be be the man utd best player of the season. Your loyalty to rooney is second to none. I want LVG to continue using him. cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:29pm On Oct 26, 2015
elampiro:


Some things are over emphasized. A striker who has more than 30 touches in a game is okay.

Rooney is not playing well but the stats they are bringing to ridicule him are ridiculous themselves.

Van Persie has once had 11 touches in a game. Rooney had 50 and they said it's bad.

Last season RVP averaged 23 passes per 90 minuets played while Falcao averaged 27 per 90 minutes.

I also read Falcao was not this bad. That is a lie. Falcao was a falling falling even against feather weight defenders and midfielders. The little I have seen of Falcao this season, he is not any better than when he left us. I saw him in a certain Capital 1 cup, he missed clear cut chances. Couldn't even kick a free kick, he fell down when he was to take a free kick.


Criticism should be constructive.
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Elamps baba. ...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:02pm On Oct 26, 2015
codedguy1:
I know we won't agree on this and this would be my last take.

Maybe I should have used the word STIFFER competition when refering to the teams in the BL against Bayern.

You seem to be somewhat making my point for me. Few years ago the competition was between Man United and Arsenal, but now a Manchester United know that they will face STIFF opposition from the likes of Chelsea(forget their present predicament as u also alluded was unusual) Arsenal and Man city. Then the likes of liverpool, Tottenham and Evertons. These clubs consistently bring unusual stiff competition that affect the traditional top 4 as you put it.

But in the BL, one club from no where gives a fantastic showing and then fade away the next season, but Bayern is the only consistent team.

I rember when Shalke, Munchenglasbach, stuttgart and Dortmund where the main competitions.

Now its just bayern.
The EPL over the years has shown the top 4 to be fairly constant which means it lacks competition for the top 4 slots, Compared to the Bundesliga where the competition for top 4 is very fierce

Almost anyone can close their eyes and predict Man Utd, City Chelsea and Arsenal would make top 4 with a 75% success rate.

Can anyone try to predict the Bundesliga top 4?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:03pm On Oct 26, 2015
Leyqute:
There are two teams in the Burnthisleaguedown - Bayern Munich and other teams. The fact that Bayern molest others teams both on and off the pitch means there's no competition in the league.
There are no teams in the EPL since they are all mediocre and below par.

Thats because the quality of the players are very low which Scholes had to lament about

When would we see a top 5 Balon D or from EPL? when would we see a world cup top scorer from epl? when would we see a top 3 golden ball winner from the epl?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:05pm On Oct 26, 2015
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 11:37pm On Oct 26, 2015
raumdeuter:
This might interest you

‘If you look at the quality of player that comes to England I don’t think we have the best players in Europe or in the world,’ Scholes told BT Sport.
‘The best players are at Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. I think the level below that is probably Paris Saint-Germain and Juventus. And under that is where the quality of English clubs come into it.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3255256/Manchester-United-legend-Paul-Scholes-takes-swipe-Premier-League-quality-claiming-Sergio-Aguero-Real-Madrid-Bayern-Munich-squad.html#ixzz3pgWOi9rP
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I don't think we have had an arguement about quality of players before, its always been quality of League. Bayern is the only team in Germany, thats why they can win the league with their hands in their pocket.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:43pm On Oct 26, 2015
UniqueGem:
I don't think we have had an arguement about quality of players before, its always been quality of League. Bayern is the only team in Germany, thats why they can win the league with their hands in their pocket.
And what is the argument about the quality of the league when the Bundesliga currently sits in 2nd place in UEFA coefficient and EPL is struggling wwith Serie A for 3rd spot

Why should there be an argument about something UEFA has settled with their coefficient ranking?

UEFA says Spain is the number 1 league followed by Bundesliga and EPL is 3rd facing stiff competittion from Italy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 11:53pm On Oct 26, 2015
raumdeuter:
And what is the argument about the quality of the league when the Bundesliga currently sits in 2nd place in UEFA coefficient and EPL is struggling wwith Serie A for 3rd spot

Why should there be an argument about something UEFA has settled with their coefficient ranking?

UEFA says Spain is the number 1 league followed by Bundesliga and EPL is 3rd facing stiff competittion from Italy
Same old UEFA. Ancelotti have told you guys he hates a boring one team league and is not interested. Thats the koko here.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:57pm On Oct 26, 2015
UniqueGem:
Same old UEFA. Ancelotti have told you guys he hates a boring one team league and is not interested. Thats the koko here.
Yes o same old UEFA the governing body of football in Europe whose rule everyone follows. UEFA said Bundesliga is a better league than EPL and I am sure UEFA has more authority than what Ancelotti has to say.

UEFA says na una and Serie A dey the same level

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2298033.html#premier+league+serie+a+continue+rankings+duel
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 11:57pm On Oct 26, 2015
patrickmuf:
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 12:02am On Oct 27, 2015
raumdeuter:
Yes o same old UEFA the governing body of football in Europe whose rule everyone follows. UEFA said Bundesliga is a better league than EPL and I am sure UEFA has more authority than what Ancelotti has to say.

UEFA says na una and Serie A dey the same level

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2298033.html#premier+league+serie+a+continue+rankings+duel
Okay. I'll wait till EPL topples Bundesliga again, then i'll hear the new version of your excuses. Na so you dey hype boatank too ooo and even Bayern till Arsenal corner them like olosho. Make we just wait.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 12:05am On Oct 27, 2015
UniqueGem:
Okay. I'll wait till EPL topples Bundesliga again, then i'll hear the new version of your excuses. Na so you dey hype boatank too ooo and even Bayern till Arsenal corner them like olosho. Make we just wait.
EPL shouldnt worry about Bundesliga rather they shouldworry about Serie A, French league even russian league toppling them soon

Hype what? The group table doesnt lie. Go and check the group standing and see who dey top. Unless there is a "We beat Bayern at home" trophy somewhere.

In 2013,we lost to Arsenal yet we won the treble. I know which one I would rather choose. Losing to Arsenal or winning the treble

Boatank has his CL and world cup trophy to tender. No one in this current Arsenal team can say the same
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 12:10am On Oct 27, 2015
raumdeuter:
EPL shouldnt worry about Bundesliga rather they shouldworry about Serie A, French league even russian league toppling them soon

Hype what? The group table doesnt lie. Go and check the group standing and see who dey top. Unless there is a "We beat Bayern at home" trophy somewhere.

In 2013,we lost to Arsenal yet we won the treble. I know which one I would rather choose. Losing to Arsenal or winning the treble

Boatank has his CL and world cup trophy to tender. No one in this current Arsenal team can say the same
I have heard. Until then.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kolade354(m): 1:20am On Oct 27, 2015
Mourinholic:
Is Depay still on the bench because of the dutch game that happened about 236 hours ago? Coogar
Hahahah,Laff wan tear my belle oooo
He travelled to coogar's village for 5 aside competition.
He will soon be back!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 5:52am On Oct 27, 2015
Hahaha! Raumdeuter is a very slippery guy. Atleast you now admit there are 4 teams that have real competion to win the EPL based on the total games played amongst the whole Epl teams unlike BL where Bayern is the only constant coefficient in ur top 4 or 5 or 10 or 18.

You are bringing UEFA ranking that is based on competions outside of the BL when we are talking about competition WITHIN the BL. I have admitted BAyern is a top 3 club in the world but WITHIN their league they don't have any competition, even when they lose or draw they would probably be 12points ahead making the loss insignificant in the scheme of things.

When westham beat Arsenal at the begining of the season, the other top teams musta felt that's an advantage to them cause traditionally westham aint a top team, but they then beat city and chelsea.

In the BL, occasionally one darkhorse appears and may probably win the league in a season and then fades away the next leaving almighty Bayern as the only constant.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 7:36am On Oct 27, 2015
codedguy1:
Hahaha! Raumdeuter is a very slippery guy. Atleast you now admit there are 4 teams that have real competion to win the EPL based on the total games played amongst the whole Epl teams unlike BL where Bayern is the only constant coefficient in ur top 4 or 5 or 10 or 18.

You are bringing UEFA ranking that is based on competions outside of the BL when we are talking about competition WITHIN the BL. I have admitted BAyern is a top 3 club in the world but WITHIN their league they don't have any competition, even when they lose or draw they would probably be 12points ahead making the loss insignificant in the scheme of things.

When westham beat Arsenal at the begining of the season, the other top teams musta felt that's an advantage to them cause traditionally westham aint a top team, but they then beat city and chelsea.

In the BL, occasionally one darkhorse appears and may probably win the league in a season and then fades away the next leaving almighty Bayern as the only constant.
That yeye league is doomed.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:42am On Oct 27, 2015
codedguy1:
Hahaha! Raumdeuter is a very slippery guy. Atleast you now admit there are 4 teams that have real competion to win the EPL based on the total games played amongst the whole Epl teams unlike BL where Bayern is the only constant coefficient in ur top 4 or 5 or 10 or 18.

You are bringing UEFA ranking that is based on competions outside of the BL when we are talking about competition WITHIN the BL. I have admitted BAyern is a top 3 club in the world but WITHIN their league they don't have any competition, even when they lose or draw they would probably be 12points ahead making the loss insignificant in the scheme of things.

When westham beat Arsenal at the begining of the season, the other top teams musta felt that's an advantage to them cause traditionally westham aint a top team, but they then beat city and chelsea.

In the BL, occasionally one darkhorse appears and may probably win the league in a season and then fades away the next leaving almighty Bayern as the only constant.
You're typing all these up for Ramudeen? You get time. He'll come up with another unrelated excuse. I tire for the guy.

That league is crap. Bayern at the end of this season would've won 8 out of 10 league titles. Can you imagine....and it's not like they struggled to win them- they strolled to many of their league titles with hands in the pocket. SMH.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:45am On Oct 27, 2015
Dadehmola:
That yeye league is doomed.
It's a boring cesspool of crap!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:57am On Oct 27, 2015
Kolade354:
Hahahah,Laff wan tear my belle oooo He travelled to coogar's village for 5 aside competition. He will soon be back!
https://mobile.twitter.com/Elko_B/status/658556579403403265
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kolade354(m): 8:09am On Oct 27, 2015
SIRcumalot:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Elko_B/status/658556579403403265
keep deceiving urself, he was on the bench against Cska moscow, man city.
That international break must be tough then.
Did the dutch team play against machines or demon?
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