naijapips02:


so a white man, hughes, established an igboid village ? this zombies no go kill person.

Lord Luggard is a yorubaman! idiot

Can you imagine that idiot accusing Igbos of land grabbing while in reality he is the one with the expansionist agenda. Tonyebarcanista, you're a cursed hypocrite. Tufiakwa!

naijapips02:


so a white man, hughes, established an igboid village ? this zombies no go kill person.

Okay, and can you please tell me where Gentle Finapiri is from? The name sounds familiar.

ezeagu:




"Hughes found that the creek opposite Okrika Island was the continuation of the Bonny River and following it up he came to the literite cliffs on which was established a village Iguocha, and so Port Harcourt was born."

http://books.google.com/books?id=qqkuAQAAIAAJ

Forgotten heroes of Grand Bonny (2001), by Gentle Finapiri

Don't mind them.
Portharcourt was a village called Igweocha.

ezeagu:


Okay, and can you please tell me where Gentle Finapiri is from? The name sounds familiar.

sounds like a name you pulled right outta ya arse

naijapips02:

sounds like a name you pulled right outta ya arse

Oh really? I don't know, I'll take your word for it since you seem such an expert on such business.

Oh, and I've noticed that you're diverting because you've been hit face flat with hard facts.

There's a reason why this thread wont reach 20 pages like others.

ezeagu:


Oh really? I don't know, I'll take your word for it since you seem such an expert on such business.

Oh, and I've noticed that you're diverting because you've been hit face flat with hard facts.

There's a reason why this thread wont reach 20 pages like others.

Dude, you guys should stop already. I am an igboman but I am shamed by the actions of you Biafra Lunatics.

You claim you are fighting for your sovereignty; so why force your identity on people that wouldn't want to be associated with you? Ikweres have said time and again that they are not igbos, we should respect that and move on. That they speak a version of igbo language doesn't make them igbo. Anyone can pick up any language, learn it and stick with it.

Please stop already.

naijapips02:


Dude, you guys should stop already. I am an igboman but I am shamed by the actions of you Biafra Lunatics.

You claim you are fighting for your sovereignty; so why force your identity on people that wouldn't want to be associated with you? Ikweres have said time and again that they are not igbos, we should respect that and move on. That they speak a version of igbo language doesn't make them igbo. Anyone can pick up any language, learn it and stick with it.

Please stop already.

Go and park well.

naijapips02:


Dude, you guys should stop already. I am an igboman but I am shamed by the actions of you Biafra Lunatics.

You claim you are fighting for your sovereignty; so why force your identity on people that wouldn't want to be associated with you? Ikweres have said time and again that they are not igbos, we should respect that and move on. That they speak a version of igbo language doesn't make them igbo. Anyone can pick up any language, learn it and stick with it.

Please stop already.

Okay, what those this have to do with the threads topic?

ezeagu:


Okay, what those this have to do with the threads topic?

iguocha or whatever you might want to call was an ikwere enclave.....ikwere town. There are many parts that was brought together to form PH. It's on the document you cited. read it carefully, this time around, with less emotions and more brainpower.

Obiagu1:


Go and park well.

Nwanna ele way?

naijapips02:


iguocha or whatever you might want to call was an ikwere enclave.....ikwere town. There are many parts that was brought together to form PH. It's on the document you cited. read it carefully, this time around, with less emotions and more brainpower.

What do you believe your contribution to this thread was?

ezeagu:


What do you believe your contribution to this thread was?

na una way, leave topic attack personality. B Z

naijapips02:


iguocha or whatever you might want to call was an ikwere enclave.....ikwere town. There are many parts that was brought together to form PH. It's on the document you cited. read it carefully, this time around, with less emotions and more brainpower.

I doubt you know the person you are arguing with

naijapips02:


na una way, leave topic attack personality. B Z

And those that also apply to someone who responds to a clear question with "sounds like a name you pulled right outta ya arse"?

TonyeBarcanista:

Is it not clear that the Eastern Railway at Diobu was formerly known as Iguocha and NOT the entire Portharcourt City? This is easy to comprehend.


Can't it be inferred that Iguocha, other Ikwerre farmlands/towns and Okrika Fishing camps makes up portharcourt? Is this not clear? So when did the whole PHC become Iguocha? Is Iguocha, a town in Diobu(as at then) now Igbo owned or Ikwerre owned?


For the upteenth time, PHC is not Iguocha or Igweocha and has never been. Parts of Portharcourt? Maybe, just like every other towns that makes up the citu. But if the Ikwerres wants it renamed(their parts), it is between the RVSG, Ikwerre people and Okrika people


HopeAtHand

Okrika people used to sell fish at Borokiri to Igbos, Ikwerre and other upland people. They come in canoes to sell and would paddle back to their villages. Over time they established camps along the coasts but the land inside remained Ikwerreland.

asha80:
I doubt you know the person you are arguing with

who is he? i'm curious.

I remember when River State government wanted to stop Bonny people from speaking Igbo and force them to start speaking Ijaw (this was before Bayelsa State was created) but the natives rejected it and asserted their Igboness.

Now some lone minority voice will come here shouting Bonny is Ijaw. Nonsense.

naijapips02:


who is he? i'm curious.

Nobody knows.

naijapips02:


who is he? i'm curious.

the person you are arguing with does not even believe in Biafra championed by kanu..he just wants to set the record straight...na you wey just bust in trying to rope kanu's agitation with this thread

Abagworo:


Okrika people used to sell fish at Borokiri to Igbos, Ikwerre and other upland people. They come in canoes to sell and would paddle back to their villages. Over time they established camps along the coasts but the land inside remained Ikwerreland.

Nice to see you here.

Like I said before

Ijaw people invaded rivers state after betraying the old eastern state during the civil war ..... Getting a portion of land in rivers state was the deal they made with the Nigerian Govt , in return for betraying the old eastern region ...

Ijaws are expansionist ... All minorities in SS should be wary of them ..

asha80:
the person you are arguing with does not even believe in Biafra championed by kanu..he just wants to set the record straight...na you wey just bust in trying to rope kanu's agitation with this thread

Furthermore the joke is that I haven't even mentioned an ethnicity in this thread.

These old threads will help the 2 parties:

https://www.nairaland.com/574384/obiagu1-port-harcourt-1914-igboland

https://www.nairaland.com/79457/port-harcout-not-igboland

Hmm the good old days of NL, when sound, resourceful and knowledgeable were around.

HopeAtHand:


Freeglobe, i was doing something serious..but im back now.

The true ownership of Port Harcourt, by Port Harcourt i mean the PH township from station down to Borikiri will be determined one day, it would have come sooner had the 'Oil River State' agitation not been shelved.

We are at a point in our soceity where people have become more enlightened and civilised and cannot be fighting unnecessarily over issues that the true facts are easily accessible..The Okrikans claim to have a wtitten agreement with the British..The documents surely in Okrika possesion will be verified by British as Britain isnt in heaven but on earth.

Already, we have contacted the National Archives of Great Britain and they've conformed that copies of the original Port Harcourt Historical documents are with them, so no problems at all.

Regardless, i believe Ikwerres should be the ones pushing for any territorial claims or name change in Port Harcourt and not Igbos.

Correction: Igbos are not pushing for a name change rather they referred to Portharcourt by its original name.

Of course, name change has to be done by the natives but what the Igbo nation will not do is to sit and watch Portharcourt claimed by a non-Igboid community. At that stage, the Igbo will interfere and stop such nonsense.

ezeagu:
Let me just add that I believe the original name has actually been further distorted to 'Igwe Ocha' from it's Ikwere/Igbo name 'Igwu or Ugwu Ocha' meaning shimmering cliffs.

To tell you the truth, a non Igbo would not know the difference between 'Iguocha', 'Igwe Ocha' or 'Igwuocha'.

ezeagu:
Let me just add that I believe the original name has actually been further distorted to 'Igwe Ocha' from it's Ikwere/Igbo name 'Igwu or Ugwu Ocha' meaning shimmering cliffs.

Interesting.

naijapips02:


why trade word with the zombies? they didn't see Diobu there, abi? So because the rail station was called iguocha, all PH is now igboland?

And Diobu is Yoruba land?

sunnyb0b0:


And Diobu is Yoruba land?

nwannaa akpazila agwa umuazi

HopeAtHand:


Freeglobe, i was doing something serious..but im back now.

The true ownership of Port Harcourt, by Port Harcourt i mean the PH township from station down to Borikiri will be determined one day, it would have come sooner had the 'Oil River State' agitation not been shelved.

We are at a point in our soceity where people have become more enlightened and civilised and cannot be fighting unnecessarily over issues that the true facts are easily accessible..The Okrikans claim to have a wtitten agreement with the British..The documents surely in Okrika possesion will be verified by British as Britain isnt in heaven but on earth.

Already, we have contacted the National Archives of Great Britain and they've conformed that copies of the original Port Harcourt Historical documents are with them, so no problems at all.

Okirika can sign any document with Britain, Russia, or Armaggedon, but what really matters is the agreement they signed with original Igbo owners of the land

Regardless, i believe Ikwerres should be the ones pushing for any territorial claims or name change in Port Harcourt and not Igbos.

Not so fast buddy!
Now we know why Ijaws got some mentally unbalanced Ikwerre people(whose fathers and grand father claimed to be Igbos) to deny being Igbos, so that it will be easier for the Ijaws to deal with the st..tupid Ikwerres at the end. Just like the Fulanis dealt with Afonja Yorubas in Illorin.

Obiagu1:
I remember when River State government wanted to stop Bonny people from speaking Igbo and force them to state speaking Ijaw (this was before Bayelsa State was created) but the natives rejected it an asserted their Igboness.

Now some lone minority voice will come here shouting Bonny is Ijaw. Nonsense.

Nnaa, please can you Post that article again here.

Its time we started playing this game hard and furious.

When we say that Aba is an Igbo city, does it now mean that Aba no longer belong to the Ngwas?

Same applies in PH, when we say PH is an Igbo city, we mean that PH belongs to Ikwerres who are Igbo.
So this case of Igbos trying to grab PH is ridiculous.