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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by LaudateII: 10:39pm On Nov 06, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:
The blue line is from Okoko-Marina.I want to know if the 8 lane road from mile 2-badagry is part of the rail project or an entirely different project because this is what I found on their website and i didn't see anything like badagry

Blue Line - Okokomaiko to Marina
Red Line - Agbado to Marina via Iddo and Muritala Mohammed International Airport (MMIA)
Other routes for development are:
Green Line -Marina to Lekki (Airport)
Yellow Line -Otta to Iddo
Purple Line Redeem to Ojo
Orange Line- Redeem to Marina
Brown Line- Mile 12 to Marina
Those saying Lagos - Badagry may have a point, because the 10-lane expressway that is being constructed alongside the rail line, was meant to be executed in 3 phases.

Kindly see the comments below:

Road works
The Lagos State Ministry of Works is saddled with the responsibility of reconstructing the roads leading through the routes of the rail. Presently the road infrastructure is almost nearing completion. The initial challenge encountered by the ministry was getting the Right-of-Way. Several houses had to give way for the road expansion from four to 10 lane road.

The ongoing 10 lane expansion of the expressway road project with a flexible rail built into it at inception was divided into three lots. Lot 1 is from Eric Moore to Mile 2, which is about 7.5 kilometres, while Lot 2 is from Mile 2 to Agbara, a distance of about 28 kilometres and Lot 3 from Agbara to Badagry, all 10 lanes. http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/06/many-challenges-lagos-lite-rail-project-2/
sorry, spam bots got my moniker... cry
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f):
tpiah11:
you have lost touch with reality.
I thought you'd left for good.

When did you return?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 10:42pm On Nov 06, 2015
MayorofLagos:
Im eating, reading, typing, got music in my ears, heading to meeting in a few mins, need to send email, need to call my love and blow kiss...again, i need water, i should skip respond to this rail thingy but i cant cause when i saw it i was in a train snaking through subterranean tunnels....so i rearranged to do list and put on my thinking hat....


Im not a social critic but I would recommend that as a first rule we create a meaningful rating system for producing performance stats and scoring for administrators...that way we cn rate on big projects like this. Venting on a waste of public resource do us no good

The rail system is proposed as a solution to ease Lagos traffic. Why is Lagos traffic this bad? Due to population explosion. Why are there so many people in Lagos? Due to its relative modernity and urban profile. So will the addition of this rail system increase that profile and appeal? Yes. What can be expected? No one in Lagos will leave but more people will troop in to experience the new glamor and make the population problem worse. Will this situation ease Lagos traffic? No, it will worsen it.

Sustainability. Our mindset, habits and reactions to infrastructure and environment has not improved and we still respond to our environment in a stand-offish manner as consumers instead of owners. So we must be sincere with ourselves. After the whites passed administration of Nigerian Railway Corporation to us we ran it to the ground. Same with Apapa ports. Same with airline. We can't maintain roads, can't maintain buildings, we do not maintain drainage and sewer, when whites ran this country our water pipes flowed...not any more, we can't even generate and distribute electiricity successfully and consistently. So what public infrastructure do we maintain in our society? None! Now we are adding another burden to the public treasury.

Are we matured to handle the responsibility that comes with owning, operating and sustaining a rail transport system?
I concur.

The people in Lagos are just too many for the infrastructures there and no matter what they do, the pressure will always overwhelm whatever infrastructures they build there.

Lagos needs a rapid depopulation exercise/drive before they start adding more to what is now already a snarled-up gigantic ghetto.

They need to move a lot of things out the place and give it one identity. You don't even the crowd in the people to generate a lot of revenue - banking and servicing alone, if well managed, should be able to sustain Lagos. The meagre IGR the crowd contribute is not worth the pressure they put on the infrastructures there.

They might as well give the pikeys a functional seaport somewhere in the South South and start diverting all their goods. Lagos should only serve the SW. Then move a lot of industries, especially manufacturing, to Ogun and Oyo. Then move other things to other parts of the SW.

Edited
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superduperjay: 10:43pm On Nov 06, 2015
Pele dear. Your previous method of ignoring them is perfect after a while they leave but if you keep paying them attention they are going to be glued to you.
Aareonakakanfo:
I'm telling you sister mi.I dislike those characters with a passion.The first one who came at least was a very intelligent character.This second character is just something else
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:44pm On Nov 06, 2015
LaudateII:
Those saying Lagos - Badagry may have a point, because the 10-lane expressway that is being constructed alongside the rail line, was meant to be executed in 3 phases.

Kindly see the comments below:



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Thanks! I didn't even know it's 10 lanes.I think IyaIode is right,the rail is distinctly in the middle of the 10 lanes.5 lanes on both sides
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath2: 10:45pm On Nov 06, 2015
I believe we were discussing about LIGHT RAIL &not LOCOMOTIVE TRACKS but cause of paranoia, about unfounded perceived criticism, somebody just had to catch feelings!!!

O ma ga ooo, God, pls don't give me a responsibility that will make me start chasing shadows & running to do damage control even where none is needed... undecided
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 10:45pm On Nov 06, 2015
SIX-LANE HIGHWAY LINKING CAPITALS OF ABIDJAN-LAGOS CORRIDOR COUNTRIES TO BE CONSTRUCTED

The Nigerian Minister of Public Works and Chairman of the Steering Committee of the Abidjan-Lagos Highway Development Project, Mr Mike Oziegbe Onolememen has urged the five ECOWAS Member States implicated in the project to avoid delays in its implementation. Opening the meeting of the Ministers of Road Infrastructure, Transport, Public Works, Finance and Justice of Benin, Cote d’Ivoire, Ghana, Nigeria and Togo, the five countries involved in the project on Monday, 15th July 2013 in Abuja, the minister emphasised the onerous responsibility imposed on the Committee towards the realisation of the project. “We must adhere to the deadline set by our Heads of State with a view to ensuring that construction works on the Abidjan-Lagos Highway commence in 2014,” he said. He urged his colleagues to closely consider the report submitted by the experts and development partners to ensure that its conclusions are consistent with the vision of the Heads of State. Earlier, the Commissioner for Infrastructure of the ECOWAS Commission, Mr. Ebrime Njie, delivered the address of the President of the Commission in which he welcomed the support provided by the development partners and the private sector for the implementation of the project. He then assured the ministers that the ECOWAS Commission will provide the required support to facilitate the attainment of the objectives defined/set out by the Heads of State. The Commissioner said the highway will help “stimulate sub-regional integration and translate the vision of the Heads of State into a concrete reality, namely, transforming ECOWAS of States into ECOWAS of people through the realisation of physical and visible infrastructures During the meeting, the ministers considered the reports of the sectoral experts, also held in Abuja between 12th and 14th July 2013 dealing mainly with the legal framework to govern the Abidjan-Lagos corridor, the procurement process for the construction of the Highway and mobilisation of funds for its construction. The conclusions of the sectoral experts’ deliberations and the recommendations of the ministerial meeting will be presented to the Heads of State of Benin, Cote d’Ivoire, Ghana, Nigeria and Togo at the next Summit of ECOWAS Heads of State and Government scheduled for 17 and 18 July 2013 in Abuja. On the margins of the 42nd Ordinary Summit of the Authority of ECOWAS Heads of State and Government held on 27 and 28 February 2013 in Yamoussoukro, Côte d’Ivoire, the five Heads of State of the countries along the Abidjan-Lagos corridor had agreed to work towards the construction of a six-lane highway to link their respective capitals. The 1,028 km Abidjan-Lagos corridor will impact on 30 million people and serve as a transit route for 75% of West African trade. It not only links some major West African cities such as Lagos, Cotonou, Accra, Lomé and Abidjan but also, and more importantly, the dynamic sea ports providing services to the sub- region’s land-locked countries such as Burkina Faso, Mali and Niger.


Culled from ECOWAS Homepage.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by LaudateII: 10:48pm On Nov 06, 2015
Shymm3x:
I concur.

The people in Lagos are just too many for the infrastructures there and no matter what they do, the pressure will always overwhelm whatever infrastructures they build there.

Lagos needs a rapid depopulation exercise/drive before they start adding more to what is now already a snarled-up gigantic ghetto.

They need to move a lot of things out the place and give it one identity. You don't even the crowd in the people to generate a lot of revenue - banking and servicing alone, if well managed, should be able to sustain Lagos. The meagre IGR the crowd contribute is not worth the pressure they put on the infrastructures there.

They might as well give the pikeys a functional seaport somewhere in the South South and start diverting all their goods. Lagos should only serve the SW. Then move a lot of industries, especially manufacturing, to Ogun and Oyo. Then move other things to other parts of the SW.

Edited
Sir, there are 3 functional sea ports in the South-south (SS). There is Calabar port (which needs dredging); the Port-Harcourt Sea Port in Rivers State, and the Federal Ocean Terminal at Onne. But the importers do not want to use it, because they claim that cost of clearing at those ports are high (e.g. Onne terminal).
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 10:54pm On Nov 06, 2015
LaudateII:
Sir, there are 3 functional sea ports in the South-south (SS). There is Calabar port (which needs dredging); the Port-Harcourt Sea Port in Rivers State, and the Federal Ocean Terminal at Onne. But the importers do not want to use it, because they claim that cost of clearing at those ports are high (e.g. Onne terminal).
Loool. I'm not a "Sir" lol.

It's not about what the importers want. They need to just direct their goods there.

I think the LASG needs to lobby the FG to issue that directive. Goods meant for SE and SS should go to their regions. Everyone/everything in Nigeria can't be in Lagos. These folks are destroying the place and the infrastructures.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:55pm On Nov 06, 2015
Iya Agba watch out for today's episode of "Tourism with kakanfo" cool
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath2: 10:55pm On Nov 06, 2015
LaudateII:
Sir, there are 3 functional sea ports in the South-south (SS). There is Calabar port (which needs dredging); the Port-Harcourt Sea Port in Rivers State, and the Federal Ocean Terminal at Onne. But the importers do not want to use it, because they claim that cost of clearing at those ports are high (e.g. Onne terminal).
Or the Ocean liners don't go there?

Is it not an FG controlled port? Why the price discrepancy? If truly that is the fact, why don't they agitate for a price parity, but methinks they just prefer Lagos..

Shymm3x made a lot of sense with the depopulation idea , there are too many people in that city!!

The infrastructures & the population are miles apart.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 10:55pm On Nov 06, 2015
LaudateII:
Sir, there are 3 functional sea ports in the South-south (SS). There is Calabar port (which needs dredging); the Port-Harcourt Sea Port in Rivers State, and the Federal Ocean Terminal at Onne. But the importers do not want to use it, because they claim that cost of clearing at those ports are high (e.g. Onne terminal).
Even if they make those ports duty free, they will still prefer Lagos ports, because of the population and the comparative number of people in this axis that have purchasing power to buy those goods being imported.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by anonimi: 10:55pm On Nov 06, 2015
LaudateII:
Sir, there are 3 functional sea ports in the South-south (SS). There is Calabar port (which needs dredging); the Port-Harcourt Sea Port in Rivers State, and the Federal Ocean Terminal at Onne. But the importers do not want to use it, because they claim that cost of clearing at those ports are high (e.g. Onne terminal).
So why can't the Lagos state administration and LGAs hike TAXES such that cost of doing business and living in Lagos is high enough to discourage loafers and low enough to encourage genuine investors?
Win-win huh
You control population inflow to the STATE and also increase IGR while spreading development by default to other areas through discriminatory tax regime.

Oyinbo nor get two heads!
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 10:58pm On Nov 06, 2015
modath2:
Or the Ocean liners don't go there?

Is it not an FG controlled port? Why the price discrepancy? If truly that is the fact, why don't they agitate for a price parity, but methinks they just prefer Lagos..

Shymm3x made a lot of sense with the depopulation idea , there are too many people in that city!!

The infrastructures & the population are miles apart.
The only way Lagos can ever be depopulated is if and only if Biafra sees the light of day.

Those guys keep migrating to Lagos on a daily basis like the Syrians are migrating to Europe.

Though, if other congruent cities also up their game, it will stem the wave of migration from other places into Lagos.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 10:58pm On Nov 06, 2015
anonimi:
E be like sey una go give me the kain jazz wey una take dey sabi where person come from on this faceless forum. Maybe if I have it I might also start scamming people as a prophet grin

If it is bigot to make constructive criticism of a person/group then many parents will be considered bigots by their children, not so huh

In any case whether you should note that I do not need to PROVE to anyone of you that I am Yoruba. I know who I am and if you are seeking proof, you can keep waiting.
Anonimi, are you a Yoruba ? tongue
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by theV0ice: 11:00pm On Nov 06, 2015
superstar1:
The only way Lagos can ever be depopulated is if and only if Biafra sees the light of day.

Those guys keep migrating to Lagos on a daily basis like the Syrians are migrating to Europe.
Unfortunately, you're right cry
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by anonimi: 11:01pm On Nov 06, 2015
superstar1:
Even if they make those ports duty free, they will still prefer Lagos ports, because of the population and the comparative number of people in this axis that have purchasing power to buy those goods being imported.
Whose fault is it that the dumbos who have been in charge of Lagos for the last 16 plus years have not struck an optimal DIVERSE tax/levies/rates/fines etc structure to benefit from this "comparative number of people in this axis that have purchasing power"?
Why has this not been done till date and continuously re-invest the IGR into:

- education,
- tap water
- health clinics & general hospitals
- good railways & roads
- electricity



that will allow the state and LGAs to generate even more money huh
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:01pm On Nov 06, 2015
Shymm3x:
Loool. I'm not a "Sir" lol.

It's not about what the importers want. They need to just direct their goods there.

I think the LASG needs to lobby the FG to issue that directive. Goods meant for SE and SS should go to their regions. Everyone/everything in Nigeria can't be in Lagos. These folks are destroying the place and the infrastructures.
The brain of the average romani has been programmed in such a way that he sees Lagos as a "holy site". They pronounce it as "citee". Even if the FG builds a seaport far better than the ones in Lagos in the South-East or South-South,they still won't make use of it
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by anonimi: 11:03pm On Nov 06, 2015
Firefire:
Anonimi, are you a Yoruba ? tongue
Ma da awon alaimokan ti won nse bi enipe won damo lohun o jare.
I don't need to prove being Yoruba to any of them. tongue tongue
Their doubts will not and cannot stop me from making constructive contribution to enable sustainable development of Yorubaland/Nigeria, Africa etc.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 11:05pm On Nov 06, 2015
anonimi:
Whose fault is it that the dumbos who have been in charge of Lagos for the last 16 plus years have not struck an optimal DIVERSE tax/levies/rates/fines etc structure to benefit from this "comparative number of people in this axis that have purchasing power"?
Why has this not been done till date and continuously re-invest the IGR into:

- education,
- tap water
- health clinics & general hospitals
- good railways & roads
- electricity



that will allow the state and LGAs to generate even more money huh
You must be high on 3 for 1naira weed.

Which state drives IGR as much as Lagos? I have told you, you are not cut out for this kind of thread. Migrate to any of wailers or PDP or sexuality threads or linda ikeji's no brainer blog.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:05pm On Nov 06, 2015
LaudateII:
Sir, there are 3 functional sea ports in the South-south (SS). There is Calabar port (which needs dredging); the Port-Harcourt Sea Port in Rivers State, and the Federal Ocean Terminal at Onne. But the importers do not want to use it, because they claim that cost of clearing at those ports are high (e.g. Onne terminal).
Na lie! like superstar1 said,even if you make the clearance free, they still won't make use of it


GIVE THEM BI-ASS-FRA, that's the only way
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 11:07pm On Nov 06, 2015
anonimi:
Ma da awon alaimokan ti won nse bi enipe won damo lohun o jare.
I don't need to prove being Yoruba to any of them. tongue tongue
Their doubts will not and cannot stop me from making constructive contribution to enable sustainable development of Yorubaland/Nigeria, Africa etc.
I believe you!

Elehaa to ri Egun, Awo ri Awo ni.

Awon alale Ile Oduaa agbewa oooo.

God bless the Yoruba Nation. tongue
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by theV0ice: 11:07pm On Nov 06, 2015
superstar1:
Though, if other congruent cities also up their game, it will stem the wave of migration from other places into Lagos.
Ibadan is already expanding too due to the same migration. Two of my colleagues in portharcourt have already relocated their families to Ibadan and have even started building their houses there.

I don't know whether to grin or cry
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:10pm On Nov 06, 2015
theV0ice:
Ibadan is already expanding too due to the same migration. Two of my colleagues in portharcourt have already relocated their families to Ibadan and have even started building their houses there.

I don't know whether to grin or cry
The same issue Lagos is facing with regards to romanis is the same issue Ibadan is facing with regards to Hausas/Fulanis from the north
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by anonimi: 11:11pm On Nov 06, 2015
superstar1:
You must be high on 3 for 1 weed.

Which state drives IGR as much as Lagos? I have told you, you are not cut out for this kind of thread. Migrate to any of wailers or PDP or sexuality threads or linda ikeji no brainer's blog.
Your ASPIRATION level must be very low indeed.
No wonder you are on this empty "feel-good" thread. I hope it is not a reflection of how you are offline. embarassed
Have you heard of the Ebenezer effect?- Titi de ihin ni Oluwa ran wa l'owo de i.e. na up to here God helep us reach undecided

If there are too many people in a place supposedly with money that they are making from the area then TAX them until the peripheral low lifers drift away to other outlying places.
How can that be so complicated huh
Just make sure the money is reinvested to make the place very nice for those who remain and pay the HIGH taxes/levies/fines etc.

Why do you think many stupid and foolish African leaders looters sell off their home in Europe years after losing power and their looting avenues are no longer available huh
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by theV0ice: 11:13pm On Nov 06, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:
The same issue Lagos is facing with regards to romanis is the same issue Ibadan is facing with regards to Hausas/Fulanis from the north
Ibadan is not only about Hausa/Fulani o.

Even well to do Niger Deltans are relocating in their numbers because of its serenity and abundance of good schools for children.

At least that's what pushed the colleagues I mentioned there.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 11:14pm On Nov 06, 2015
anonimi:
Your ASPIRATION level must be very low indeed.
No wonder you are on this empty "feel-good" thread. I hope it is not a reflection of how you are offline. embarassed
Have you heard of the Ebenezer effect?- Titi de ihin ni Oluwa ran wa l'owo de i.e. na up to here God helep us reach undecided

If there are too many people in a place supposedly with money that they are making from the area then TAX them until the peripheral low lifers drift away to other outlying places.
How can that be so complicated huh
Just make sure the money is reinvested to make the place very nice for those who remain and pay the HIGH taxes/levies/fines etc.
Another below par post from akpu filled cerebellum, typing gibberish and calling it communication.

I repeat which state is driving IGR and tax collection like Lagos? name just one. Is that too difficult for you to answer?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:17pm On Nov 06, 2015
theV0ice:
Ibadan is not only about Hausa/Fulani o.

Even well to do Niger Deltans are relocating in their numbers because of its serenity and abundance of good schools for children.

At least that's what pushed the colleagues I mentioned there.
Yeah I know there are a lot of Old Niger-delta politicians who reside in Ibadan.I once compiled their names but i can't find it anymore.I'll try searching though
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by anonimi: 11:21pm On Nov 06, 2015
superstar1:
Another below par post from akpu filled cerebellum, typing gibberish and calling it communication.

I repeat which state is driving IGR and tax collection like Lagos? name just one. Is that too difficult for you to answer?
Were black people making anything near Nokia 3310 less than 15 years ago?
Why did our white "superiors" not stay at that ASPIRATION level since no other race was making mobile phones like them?
Instead they kept and continue expanding their horizon continuously to the smart phones we have now
that are even been developed further?
I have tried to avoid calling YOU stupid or foolish but you leave me no choice at this point but to call you what you are. undecided


BTW what other solution do you have to depopulate METROPOLITAN Lagos huh



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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 11:23pm On Nov 06, 2015
I will not agree to the idea of further driving the Taxes upward in Lagos, we are already under heavy and double taxation of different kinds...

- PAYE
- Consumption Tax
- Land Use Charge
- Etc

And yet social / infrastructure facilities are not evenly distributed.

I think the solution would be to develop standard transportation system, e.g Either low -high speed trains to connect cities, like in Europe...
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by anonimi: 11:26pm On Nov 06, 2015
Firefire:
I will not agree to the idea of further driving the Taxes upward in Lagos, we are already under heavy and double taxation of different kinds...

- PAYE
- Consumption Tax
- Land Use Charge
- Etc

And yet social / infrastructure facilities are not evenly distributed.

I think the solution would be to develop standard transportation system, e.g Either low -high speed trains to connect cities, like in Europe...
There is an underlying matter most of us are not aware of. That is if we pay high enough taxes and that is what the state and LGA administrations use rather than collecting Niger Delta oil revenue aka national cake on OUR BEHALF, we will put more pressure to the public servants to deliver these infrastructures.
It is a question of INCENTIVE for social change.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 11:27pm On Nov 06, 2015
anonimi:
Were black people making anything near Nokia 3310 less than 15 years ago?
Why did our white "superiors" not stay at that ASPIRATION level since no other race was making mobile phones like them?
Instead they kept and continue expanding their horizon continuously to the smart phones we have now
that are even been developed further?
I have tried to avoid calling YOU stupid or foolish but you leave me no choice at this point but to call you what you are. undecided
BTW what other solution do you have to depopulate METROPOLITAN Lagos huh
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If God was unfair to you by not giving you a digital brain, at least you should also beg the old witches in your lineage to allow you to upgrade your pentium 1 brain a little.

Your words are going southwards, whereas others are going northwards.

I repeat, your mental capacity is below par to make meaningful contribution to a thread of progressive minds. Find yur way to romance section or better still Linda Ikeji's blog.
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